--- Log opened Sun Jul 15 00:00:01 2012 00:15 < tilmann!~t@e178130194.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.] 00:32 < zombah> anyone know what difference between nvavp and avp in tegra? 00:33 < phh> avp is the name of the side processor 00:33 < phh> nvavp is probably an implementation of the protocol between this processor and app processor 00:34 < zombah> phh: thanx, strange that 3.1 kernel wont compile if both selected 00:34 < phh> wait what. 00:34 < phh> i'm assuming they have two such implementations then :p 00:44 < woglinde> he phh 00:44 < woglinde> long time not seen 00:46 < phh> yeah, i even got a real laptop 00:51 < phh> (even if i'm still waiting for a successor to ac100 Tegra3 with at least 2GB of RAM would be great) 00:53 < RaYmAn> zombah: I've never managed to get nvavp working on any tegra2. It's more or less exclusively used on tegra3 as far as I can tell 00:54 < woglinde> hi rayman 00:55 < zombah> RaYmAn: thanx, seems you are right, it loads some nv_avp bin and freezing system completely 01:28 < DaZ!~derp@77-255-52-54.adsl.inetia.pl [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35 >>> DaZ!~derp@77-255-241-234.adsl.inetia.pl 01:41 < zombah> yep without nvavp video decoding work without glitches 01:58 >>> eraco!~eraco@178-24-48-66-dynip.superkabel.de 01:59 < woglinde!~heinold@f052066209.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp] 02:04 < savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 [] 02:06 < fly-away!~fly@87.228.2.110 [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06 < eraco!~eraco@178-24-48-66-dynip.superkabel.de [Quit: Verlassend] 02:24 < zombah!~zombie@194.165.0.6 [Remote host closed the connection] 02:33 >>> nashpa!~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com 04:44 < gcst_!~stenzel@pD9E433F9.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:57 >>> gcst_!~stenzel@pD9E4313E.dip.t-dialin.net 06:44 >>> stuw_!~stuw@87.255.14.112 06:45 >>> DJ_HiP`!~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10 06:47 < DJ_HiP!~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:01 ~ DJ_HiP` is now DJ_HiP 07:23 < DaZ!~derp@77-255-241-234.adsl.inetia.pl [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:24 >>> DaZ!~derp@77-255-38-18.adsl.inetia.pl 07:25 < Chipaca!~John@canonical/chipaca [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:26 >>> Chipaca!~John@ec2-46-137-162-6.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com 09:23 < DaZ!~derp@77-255-38-18.adsl.inetia.pl [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:31 >>> DaZ!~derp@87-205-205-167.adsl.inetia.pl 10:46 >>> stuw_ac!~stuw@217.26.0.104 10:47 >>> savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 11:14 < stuw_ac!~stuw@217.26.0.104 [Quit: Leaving] 11:33 >>> fly-away!~fly@87.228.2.110 11:48 >>> shadoweel!~johan@41.212.71.2 11:56 >>> tilmann!~t@e178135113.adsl.alicedsl.de 12:45 < savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:54 >>> zombah!~zombie@194.165.0.6 13:08 >>> savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 13:44 < zombah!~zombie@194.165.0.6 [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52 >>> paultrafalgar!~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net 13:54 < paultrafalgar> on both my laptops I'm getting a message telling me that I have the logs fully downloaded when they clearly are not. Any ideas/ 13:54 < paultrafalgar> on both my laptops I'm getting a message telling me that I have the logs fully downloaded when they clearly are not. Any ideas? 13:55 < paultrafalgar> wget -c http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/ac100log.txt 14:00 < DaZ!~derp@87-205-205-167.adsl.inetia.pl [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:02 < stuw_> paultrafalgar, check link with web browser 14:03 < stuw_> I can't get log using web browser 14:04 < paultrafalgar> stuw has the link changed? 14:04 < stuw_> try to get weekly logs 14:04 < stuw_> paultrafalgar, I don't know, there is no error and no content 14:06 >>> DaZ!~derp@77-253-91-173.adsl.inetia.pl 14:07 < gildean> well it seems i borked something when i cleaned the logs a bit 14:08 < gildean> i was just supposed to make a new full log file, as the old one was getting too big 14:08 < paultrafalgar> week 29 log comes down ok 14:09 < gildean> let's see now 14:10 < paultrafalgar> useful too have full log for searching old refs 14:10 < gildean> the old full log is still there 14:10 < gildean> http://ok.salaliitto.com/ac100/ac100log_old.txt 14:11 < paultrafalgar> gedit seems to deal with quarter of a million lines ok (:-) 14:11 < paultrafalgar> thanks gildean 14:11 < paultrafalgar> will new log have same name? 14:12 < gildean> yes, it should be running now 14:12 < paultrafalgar> ie. ac100log.txt 14:12 < gildean> seems to be working 14:13 < gildean> also the weekly logs never stopped, so nothing should be lost --- Log opened Sun Jul 15 14:09:34 2012 14:09 < gildean> let's see now 14:12 < gildean> yes, it should be running now 14:12 < paultrafalgar> ie. ac100log.txt 14:12 < gildean> seems to be working 14:13 < gildean> also the weekly logs never stopped, so nothing should be lost --- Log opened Sun Jul 15 14:15:57 2012 14:16 [Users #ac100] 14:16 >>> ale6 dliviu grandrew lucky_luchiano pol_ Tequila 14:16 >>> ali_as dpol gtom marvin24 RaYmAn tilmann 14:16 >>> ard Dr_Azrael_Tod Hobbes` micolous savalik Unseen2 14:16 >>> armin76 e-ndy infinity Mifun scoopr Vandroy 14:16 >>> arune elgaard jbrown MikeEcho shadoweel woshty 14:16 >>> balrog-k2n epicmonkey jeremiah nashpa Shahid x201 14:16 >>> Bubor Eruquen kadduri ojn srwarren yaneti 14:16 >>> Chipaca fly-away kenws p2-mate stuw zod 14:16 >>> chrisq gcst_ lenios PaulFertser stuw_ 14:16 >>> Daviey gg_ lenios_ paultrafalgar sven^ 14:16 >>> DaZ ggrandou leviathan pfoetchen svp 14:16 >>> DJ_HiP gildean longpig phh taruti 14:16 Irssi: #ac100: Total of 68 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 68 normal] 14:16 < gildean> ok, it's logging now and i added a few lines that were missing 14:17 < paultrafalgar> i'll try again 14:17 < gildean> http://ok.salaliitto.com/ac100/ac100log.txt 14:17 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italian on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://ac100.grandou.net | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | Developer team & mailing-list: https://launchpad.net/~ac100 | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/logs 14:17 >>> Topic set by ggrandou ~quassel@clochette.grandou.net [Mon Aug 15 20:06:17 2011] 14:18 < gildean> the strange thing is that editing the log file shouldn't lock the file, at least it didn't use to 14:18 < gildean> now it seems that if i edit the file, the logging stops 14:18 < paultrafalgar> wget -c http://80.83.7.238/~gildean/ac100/ac100log.txt same result 14:19 < gildean> try opening the link i pasted in a broser 14:19 < gildean> as it seems to be working over here 14:22 < gildean> yeah, at least from three different locations it works, with wget & browser 14:26 < paultrafalgar> works in a browser 14:27 < gildean> but yeah, the old full log, and cleaned monthlys etc. can be found from http://ok.salaliitto.com/ac100/logs/ 14:27 < gildean> i added a gzipped version of the old log, 5MB vs. 16MB 14:27 < gildean> paultrafalgar: i can also wget without any problems 14:28 < paultrafalgar> still doesn't work here - is it the dns translation that's not working? 14:30 < gildean> both v4 and v6 semms to resolve over here 14:31 < paultrafalgar> opendns gave me such problems but not using that now 14:32 < gildean> and if you can wget the other files, it shouldn't be a problem 14:32 < gildean> also you can try http://julkinen.salaliitto.com/ac100/ac100log.txt 14:33 < gildean> it's just another alias tho', shouldn't make a difference 14:34 < paultrafalgar> same error as above with that 14:34 < gildean> paultrafalgar: you're sure the server isn't giving the wget code 304 for some reason? 14:34 < paultrafalgar> 416 is the error 14:36 < paultrafalgar> maybe its my ethernet in the house that's the problem 14:36 < gildean> are you trying to complement the old file you have? 14:36 < paultrafalgar> yup 14:36 < gildean> what if you renamed that and started a new file 14:36 < paultrafalgar> i'll try that 14:37 < gildean> as error 416 is Requested Range Not Satisfiable 14:37 < gildean> in this case i would presume the byte-range is not satisfiable as the old file is bigger than the one you're pulling new data from 14:39 < paultrafalgar> that works only 8.4 K now is that about the right size? 14:41 < gildean> correct 14:41 < paultrafalgar> thanks gildean 14:41 < paultrafalgar> bye 14:42 < gildean> np 14:42 < paultrafalgar!~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net [Quit: Leaving] 15:18 >>> zommi!~quassel@HSI-KBW-078-042-009-093.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de 15:21 >>> hectorvector!~hectorvec@UQ1-221-170-41-182.tky.mesh.ad.jp 15:32 < gg_!~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33 >>> gg!~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net 15:45 < zommi!~quassel@HSI-KBW-078-042-009-093.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:00 >>> qpx!~qpx@141.45.160.111 16:02 < lenios!~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-191-146.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02 >>> lenios!~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-191-146.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr 16:12 < lenios_!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:28 >>> savalik1!~urka@92.255.66.181 16:29 < savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:01 < savalik1!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:06 < fly-away!~fly@87.228.2.110 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12 >>> savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 17:16 >>> savalik1!~urka@92.255.66.181 17:18 < savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:22 >>> fly-away!~fly@87.228.5.180 17:37 < fly-away!~fly@87.228.5.180 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:39 >>> Ingo__!b20d6012@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.13.96.18 17:39 < Ingo__> Hi 17:39 < Ingo__> anybody here to help? 17:40 < phh> to help for what ? 17:40 < ali_as> Best ask the question and wait for an answer. 17:40 < Ingo__> I wanted qlandkartegt on my ac100 17:40 < Ingo__> semms not available from universe 17:41 < Ingo__> I searched the web without success and any pointer would be greatly appreciated 17:43 < phh> Could NOT find OpenGL (missing: OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY) 17:43 < phh> yeah well if it requires opengl that won't be easy. 17:43 < ali_as> ac100 doesn't have gps does it? 17:43 < ali_as> Software opengl mesa drivers maybe? 17:44 < phh> ali_as: usb plug/bluetooth/whatever is good for gps too ... 17:44 < Ingo__> I would use qlandkarte to feed my garmin with tracks, so no gps needed in the ac100 17:44 < phh> ali_as: perhaps 17:44 < phh> Ingo__: you'll have to build it by yourself 17:45 < Ingo__> ok, so at least I should try, I thought if it is not there, it may not compile 17:46 < phh> well the build log says it's because of opengl 17:46 < phh> as ali_as mentions, you can use software opengl mesa 17:46 < Ingo__> I see 17:46 < phh> (actually i'm pretty sure it's already installed) 17:46 < Ingo__> I guess it will be extremely slow, right 17:47 < phh> well for what you want perhaps it doesn't use opengl rendering 17:47 < Ingo__> I may look at maps and plan routes 17:47 < Ingo__> btw, isn't opengl in the works for the ac100? 17:48 < phh> there is mostly no way to get opengl 17:48 < phh> only opengl es 17:48 < Ingo__> ok, I see 17:48 < Ingo__> thanks guys, you helped a lot 17:48 < Ingo__> have a good day 17:48 < phh> there are some wrappers for opengl, but they are working on examples at best 17:49 < ali_as> I made a few things work by installing a bunch of blah-mesa-dev packages. 17:49 < ali_as> The rendering was slow of course. 17:50 < ali_as> It also wrecked the nv gles hardware packages and I spent a quite a lot of effort removing it all later. 17:50 < savalik1!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Quit: Leaving.] 17:50 < Ingo__> ok, thanks again, I guess I will rather not give it a try 17:51 >>> savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 17:51 < ali_as> If you have skills you could port it to gles and run it hardware accelerated ;) 17:52 >>> fly-away!~fly@87.228.2.110 17:53 < phh> i'm wondering if unity engine being ported to linux might also mean ported to linux/arm/opengl es .. 17:53 < phh> (since it's available on android) 17:54 < Ingo__> I like that idea, I have only few expreience with GL, would it be a lot of code to port? 17:55 < Ingo__> would be a nice hobby project, but I have obnly limited time 17:55 < ali_as> I have very little idea what is involved, only that gles2 is a subset of gl. 17:56 < ali_as> I'm only at the stage of reading sources and being appalled by how much code is needed just to draw a triangle. 17:56 < Ingo__> I guess a subset means, that it does not contain old API's from GL 1.0, so if thats involved it is like changing everything 17:57 < phh> Ingo__: there is opengles 1 and opengles 2 17:57 < phh> opengles1 is like gl1 mostly, opengles 2 is mostly like opengl 4 - opengl <=2 17:57 < phh> like opengles1 is only fixed pipeline, opengles 2 only dynamic pipeline 17:58 < phh> obviously you can't mix them :p 17:58 < phh> oh and both of them has a restriction compared to there "desktop" version, they are state less 17:59 < phh> so, those differences are no big deal 17:59 < Ingo__> So, the question is: Is qlandkarte using GL1 or rather GL4? 17:59 < phh> but you need to know what you're doing 18:01 < phh> Ingo__: anyway 18:01 < phh> opengl is used only for 3D mapping :D 18:01 < phh> not for 2D part 18:01 < phh> you could port it if you want, but i doubt that's really useful 18:02 < Ingo__> ok, I really didn't think ! 18:02 < Ingo__> of course I will not need it 18:02 < Ingo__> I wasn't aware there is 3d 18:03 < Ingo__> I may use an older vesion on my ubuntu 10.4 LTS box 18:03 < phh> and reading the code source, i'd say it should be straightforward to port to gles1 18:03 < phh> (but i haven't ever done such a port so i can't say for sure :p) 18:04 < phh> Ingo__: cmake -DWITH_OPENGL=OFF 18:04 < phh> and you're done :D 18:04 < Ingo__> how would I go to compile for ac100? Would I use a ubuntu precise on a x86 computer, or would I compile on the ac100? 18:04 < phh> no need for opengl 18:04 < phh> Ingo__: compile on the ac100 18:05 < Ingo__> ok, then it should be straightforwad 18:05 >>> asdfgjdjha!1f1296e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.18.150.230 18:05 < asdfgjdjha!1f1296e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.18.150.230 [] 18:06 < phh> or you could use debian's packages 18:06 < phh> they have arm{el,hf} packages for it ... 18:08 < Ingo__> ah, yes that would probably be an even better idea 18:31 >>> Alex[sp3dev]!~alexander@178.76.204.60 18:44 >>> geniack!~geniack@p5B27271E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 18:44 < Ingo__> hmm, debian has a armel package, but aptitude on ac100 requires armhf 18:44 < Ingo__> I am not sure about the difference 18:44 < Ingo__> should I try to force the install? 18:46 < phh> no 18:46 < geniack> hello, i decided to take out my ac100 again and give it another try... my fav os would be gentoo, anybody familiar with it? suggest a working guide? alternative os? (xcpt ubuntu, this drove me insane already on that box) 18:46 < phh> Ingo__: debian has an armhf package too 18:47 < Ingo__> sure, I was in "stable", but there is one in wheezy thanks 18:50 >>> zombah!~zombie@194.165.0.6 18:54 < geniack> nobody? 19:03 < geniack!~geniack@p5B27271E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:14 < Alex[sp3dev]!~alexander@178.76.204.60 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:24 >>> Alex[sp3dev]!~alexander@178.76.204.60 19:31 < Ingo__> phh: thanks again for the debian hint. I have it running now - though I am not sure if it will be very stable 19:31 < Ingo__> I used the squeeze version (only that had armhf package) 19:32 < Ingo__> and I had to cheat with the version of libgdal 19:32 < Ingo__> 1.8 is required, but ubuntu has only 1.7 19:32 < Ingo__> so I manually made a symlink and forces dpkg to install the package 19:32 < Ingo__> but at least it is running 19:32 < phh> that doesn't sound unusual to me :D 19:33 < Ingo__> I hope I will not meet the situation, when Qland will call that one function in 1.8, for which the dependency was made... 19:34 < phh> :-) 19:34 < phh> you could use debian's libgdal 19:34 < phh> try to* 19:35 < Ingo__> sure, I will do so if I meet problems 19:35 < Ingo__> but you're right, it would be the right thing to do in my situation 21:06 < DaZ!~derp@77-253-91-173.adsl.inetia.pl [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:11 >>> DaZ!~derp@87-205-169-241.adsl.inetia.pl 21:13 >>> geniack!~geniack@p5B27271E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 21:13 < geniack> hey there 21:13 < qpx> hi 21:13 < geniack> i just installed ubuntu on my ac100, made a system update tried to install the l4t driver as suggested by the unbutu guid 21:14 < geniack> said its not appropriate for armhf 21:14 < geniack> now the mouse aint working 21:19 < geniack> oh come on 21:25 < qpx> patience, the channel is very helpful :) 21:26 < geniack> its just that i installed this box like the 10th time 21:26 < geniack> and always something breaks 21:26 < geniack> i am about to throw it out of the window :) 21:26 < qpx> :) 21:44 < PaulFertser> geniack: if you want stability and sanity, do not use the proprietary drivers 21:45 < PaulFertser> geniack: also, installing Gentoo shouldn't be any complicated: just boot ubuntu from its installation usb stick and then install Gentoo the usual way. 21:46 < PaulFertser> geniack: read the wiki at ac100.grandou.net to see how to handle the custom way of booting the kernel. 21:48 < geniack> PaulFertser: it turned out that everthing is fine 21:48 < PaulFertser> geniack: ah, so patience helped, nice to hear :) 21:48 < geniack> www.mail-archive.com/ac100@lists.launchpad.net/msg00670.html 21:48 < geniack> i was reading through that thread 21:48 < geniack> someone suggested hitting F9 21:49 < geniack> i didnt know it remembers the key state during reboot 21:49 < geniack> also i never had computers that supported keybord disabling via keyboard 21:49 < geniack> but thanks anyway :) 21:52 < geniack> gtg 21:52 < geniack!~geniack@p5B27271E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:56 < leviathan!~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 >>> leviathan!~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca 22:01 < shadoweel!~johan@41.212.71.2 [] 22:04 < Alex[sp3dev]!~alexander@178.76.204.60 [Quit: leaving] 22:22 >>> rpiloose!~luser@37.175.169.150 22:24 < elgaard!~elgaard@109.70.52.178 [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:25 >>> elgaard!~elgaard@109.70.52.178 22:27 < savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Quit: Leaving.] 22:28 >>> savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 22:34 < savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Quit: Leaving.] 22:34 >>> savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 22:43 >>> savalik1!~urka@92.255.66.181 22:44 < savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:46 >>> savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 22:49 < savalik1!~urka@92.255.66.181 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:49 < stuw_!~stuw@87.255.14.112 [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51 >>> fly-a!~qicruser@87.228.2.110 22:57 >>> mase76!~mase76@p5DD39AFD.dip.t-dialin.net 23:10 < rpiloose!~luser@37.175.169.150 [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:12 >>> rpiloose!~luser@37.175.169.150 23:13 < mase76!~mase76@p5DD39AFD.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:14 >>> mase76!~mase76@p5DD39AFD.dip.t-dialin.net 23:15 < mase76> hi! strange thin with the 3.1 kernel. when the screen turns into powersave, it does not return out of it. it keeps black forever. no binary driver used. is that a known issue? 23:29 >>> arb!b20286f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.2.134.246 23:40 < mase76!~mase76@p5DD39AFD.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat] --- Day changed Mon Jul 16 2012 00:12 < epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:13 < marvin24> mase76: (if you read the backlog) 00:13 < marvin24> this seems to be a tegrafb bug 00:13 < marvin24> vanishs here if you install the binary blob 00:14 < marvin24> so many bugs in 3.1 .... 00:15 < zombah> marvin24: hello, maybe firmware version may affect resume i know it loads some binary when resume from lp0 00:55 >>> epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 00:56 < fly-a!~qicruser@87.228.2.110 [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:57 < savalik!~urka@92.255.66.181 [] 01:08 < fly-away!~fly@87.228.2.110 [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11 < rpiloose!~luser@37.175.169.150 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:14 >>> rpiloose!~luser@37.175.169.150 01:22 < PaulFertser!paul@paulfertser.info [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:30 < arb!b20286f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.2.134.246 [Quit: Page closed] 01:33 < epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35 < tilmann!~t@e178135113.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.] 02:07 < rpiloose!~luser@37.175.169.150 [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:08 >>> rpiloose!~luser@37.175.169.150 02:37 < zombah!~zombie@194.165.0.6 [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 < Ingo__!b20d6012@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.13.96.18 [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:43 >>> zombah!~zombie@194.165.0.6 04:36 >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 04:45 < gcst_!~stenzel@pD9E4313E.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:58 >>> gcst_!~stenzel@pD9E42F99.dip.t-dialin.net 05:01 < Mifun!~Miranda@95.215.102.18 [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Reading from /proc/stat 17:20 < ogra_> (note that top shows cache and buffers, you actually *want* 100% used) 17:20 < ogra_> try htop, that gives a more neduser friendly value 17:20 < ogra_> *enduser 17:21 < Chipaca> xmobar's percent is total - (free + buffer + cache) 17:21 < Chipaca> / total 17:22 < Chipaca> * 100 :) 17:23 < Chipaca> so 95%+ is where it starts "swapping" the mmap'ed libraries 17:23 < Chipaca> anyway 17:24 < Chipaca> this works for me, so far (only been a few hours, maybe i'm being lucky): zram off, and chromium ulimited 17:24 <*> Quits ->zommi [quassel@nat/ibm/x-jcyyjhqnuupqbapy] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28 < ogra_> ah, chromium, havent used that in ages 17:28 < ogra_> FF is so much faster 17:28 < Chipaca> orly? 17:29 < ogra_> ? 17:29 < Chipaca> on arm, or in general? my experience has been the opposite 17:29 < Chipaca> which is why i switched 17:29 < ogra_> on arm 17:29 < Chipaca> but that was before arm 17:29 < Chipaca> must give it a try, then 17:29 < ogra_> but i havent used it since mid precise 17:30 < Chipaca> although chromium's 'sync the bookmarks' is mighty convenient :) 17:42 <*> Quits ->svp1 [~svp@62.112.106.78] [Quit: Leaving.] 17:46 <*> Quits ->x201 [~hzhang@221.219.114.11] [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:04 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45 < Chipaca> fwiw, had a hard freeze with zram off 18:45 < Chipaca> so it's not that either 18:45 < Chipaca> :(( 18:46 < Chipaca> then proceeded to have three hard freezes in succession, when trying to lead a conf call via mumble 18:46 < Chipaca> even more ('s on my :( 18:47 < ogra_> so you have I/O probs ... not ram issues 18:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 18:58 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->kottt [~Anton_Sel@84.52.98.79] [] 19:20 <*> Quits ->gcst_ [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-anvsdrxharvhghtd] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 19:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39756.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:33 < mase76> do you also get a system freeze, when the display enters powersave with 3.1 kernel? 19:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:35 < marvin24> mase76: I wrote you yesterday (you were already offline), that this a tegrafb bug when running without binary blob 19:35 < mase76> ah, ok. 19:35 < marvin24> mase76: does the system hard lock btw? (check with caps lock led) 19:35 < marvin24> I don't remember anymore 19:36 < mase76> to check this, i have to rebuild the kernel. i threw away my package, as i am still not able to use the birary. 19:37 < ogra_> use the package from ubuntu quantral 19:39 < mase76> there are unmet dependencies. i will rebuild and report then... 19:39 < mase76> # 19:41 < mase76> i have freezes very often with 3.0 after several minutes with only one application open. for example iceweasel. i hope, 3.1 could solve this. 19:42 < mase76> doesn't matter if zram enabled or not. 19:42 < mase76> and i am on xfce. that doesn't eat many rescources. 19:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->geniack [~geniack@p5B272C2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 19:50 < geniack> my ac100 want's to reconnect to my wlan all the time (running ubuntu 12.04) and dmesg shows that it is reconnecting all the time... i changed some settings for lid suspension... dont think this affected the wlan... but i cant connect anymore... hlp! 19:51 < ogra_> geniack, sounds like you need the wlan hardware hack 19:52 < geniack> ogra_: but it was working... i dont know what happened :( 19:52 < geniack> cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain 19:53 < ogra_> it works depending on the angle you have the lid in usually 19:53 < geniack> whats the wlan hardware hack? 19:54 < ogra_> http://www.lins.me/ac100/fixing_wifi.html 19:56 < ogra_> many ac100'S have that issue 19:56 < geniack> ok yeah... if its not working stable... i think i fckd something up and now its not working at ll 19:56 < geniack> *all 19:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@92.255.66.181] 19:58 < geniack> dmesg shows some weird frequency spectra... it seems to look for 300 miB networks but i am only running a 54 miB 20:09 < PaulFertser> geniack: ac100 has 802.11n-capable card, maximum theoretical bitrate is 150MBps 20:10 < PaulFertser> geniack: but it's unrelated, those crda messages are simply indicating the current regulatory settings. 20:10 < geniack> PaulFertser: yeah but dmesg was flooded with that message 20:10 < geniack> i fixed it by rebooting my wlan router 20:11 < geniack> it seems this thing locks up everytime too much errors received or something 20:11 < geniack> which in this case the ac100 would trigger becaus of its bad wireless connection 20:11 < geniack> but i dunno 20:13 < PaulFertser> geniack: in my experience the latest compat-wireless drivers on ac100 work better. 20:14 < geniack> do i receive them from the official ubuntu armhf repo? 20:14 < PaulFertser> geniack: self-compile it 20:15 < geniack> like building a module and modifying modprobe configs to make it load at boot time? 20:17 < PaulFertser> geniack: linuxwireless.org has all the instructions about how to compile the latest drivers 20:17 < PaulFertser> After you compile and install they're always loaded automatically. 20:25 < geniack> i see, thank you :) 20:41 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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the binary driver would work, since wheeze is on xorg 1.12. but the abi12 driver also segfaults. 22:57 <*> Quits ->epicmonkey [~epicmonke@188.134.41.211] [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->MikeEcho [~mike@memery.info] 23:05 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Quit: Page closed] 23:07 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 23:14 <*> Quits ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.92.64] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.92.64] 23:17 < mase76> when the screen turns off, a mousemove only brings back the illumination. but i can switch to console and then back to x. the the desktop appears again. 23:20 < zombah> mase76: i have wip solution of changing suspend_mode to LP1, seems to resume now 23:20 < mase76> but only with the binary driver i guess. 23:21 < zombah> on android 23:22 < zombah> some buggy tegra revisions use this solution also, so its semi productional 23:26 < mase76> i am f...ed up, that the binary driver does not work on my system. i wonder, that lightdm starts fine, and the desktop launch let xorg segfault. 23:27 < zombah> try disabling nvavp, it helped me on android to make hardware video decoding work, maybe connected 23:28 < mase76> as i remember, nvavp was not present in 3.0. and the driver also does not work with this kernel. 23:29 < zombah> its enabled in defconfig, and it freeze system if it tries to load some firmwares 23:30 < mase76> but nvavp is not in 3.0. 23:31 < mase76> my system does not freeze. it causes a x restart, bringing me back to the display manager. 23:31 < zombah> you switched to 3.0 i thought you running 3.1 23:31 < mase76> i came from 3.0 with that driver problem. and it is also present in 3.1 23:32 < mase76> currently i am on 3.1 23:34 < zombah> me too on 3.1 so it may be connected imho 23:34 < mase76> but when you think, the driver crash is caused by nvavp, why does it also happen in 3.0? 23:37 < zombah> i never tried 3.0 jumped from 2.6.32 to 3.1 23:37 < mase76> what is nvavp for? 23:38 < zombah> its protocol for communication between avp and core, but Rayman told it is not used in tegra2 only in tegra3 23:39 < zombah> but when enabled it tries to do some magic, load blobs etc 23:40 < mase76> it is worth a try 23:40 < zombah> https://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-marvin24s-kernel/commit/9496fb34fe9fb831fc1271ff7e80d417fde48866 23:41 < mase76> the rest can be as is defconfig? 23:41 < zombah> i have modified one, because android dont have module autoloading but mostly same 23:42 < mase76> tegra_rpc etc? 23:42 < zombah> sure try with default only without nvavp and avp on mmu enabled 23:44 < mase76> there is tegra_nvavp and tegra_avp 23:44 < mase76> disable both? 23:44 < zombah> only nvavp 23:44 < mase76> ok 23:46 < mase76> ok, building... i will see the result tomorrow. thanx alot! 23:46 < mase76> hope, it helps! 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How can I install? 13:01 < PaulFertser> I4U: what do you mean? 13:01 < I4U> I would like to install nvflash. 13:01 < PaulFertser> I4U: ah, just untar that file you've got. 13:01 < I4U> But I get a .tar.gz file. 13:02 < I4U> Yes, but I get a folder and I don't know how I can install it. 13:02 < PaulFertser> I4U: you do not need to install it, just run the binary from inside that folder. 13:02 < PaulFertser> cd there first :) 13:05 < I4U> ok for cd, the folder contains: install, nvflash.udev and a 'source' folder. 13:05 < I4U> what binary I have to run? 13:07 < PaulFertser> I4U: i guess install. But i personally never used nvflash, putusb was enough for me. 13:07 < I4U> I just try. 13:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-lttlfxbtgglefcoo] 13:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->kottt [~Anton_Sel@84.52.98.79] 13:24 <*> Quits ->epicmonkey [~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:38 < ogra_> there is a deb too 13:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->epicmonkey [~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net] 13:38 < ogra_> http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package 13:45 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:05 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:06 <*> Quits ->I4U [52fb5312@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.251.83.18] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:09 <*> Quits ->epicmonkey [~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] 14:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->epicmonkey [~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net] 14:29 <*> Quits ->shadoweel [c4cad4d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.202.212.214] [Quit: Page closed] 14:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 14:42 < PaulFertser> marvin24: btw, i have a misbehaving touchpad right atm. It acts very erratically but somewhat corresponding to the finger movements. Nothing interesting in dmesg. 14:42 < PaulFertser> 3.0.19 14:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] 14:56 < PaulFertser> It's as if i need to use a really "fat" finger to move the cursor. 14:59 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: maybe the touchpad is dying? aren't you afraid to be haunted by the ghost of ac100? or does it only happen on 3.0.19? 15:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zommi_ [quassel@nat/ibm/x-geeljjujwhcwcvlv] 15:28 <*> Quits ->zommi [quassel@nat/ibm/x-hfxegezxmefqvium] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:29 <*> Quits ->gcst_ [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-vcjoatzutqiqreqn] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:30 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: :DDD 15:37 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: I've heard a lecture on L4 today and now I'm fascinated by the idea of running everything in user mode under a hypervisor 15:39 < stuw> :)) 15:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst_ [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-kmeualulolxfdtxf] 15:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX [~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-57-115.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] 15:54 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->svp [~svp@62.112.106.78] 16:29 < ogra_> so has anyone here run the R15 nvidia driver successfully with a marvin24 kernel yet ? 16:29 ogra_ gets a pretty crashy X with it 16:30 < zombah> in android i run 14r7 hal with 3.1-exp 16:30 < ogra_> R14 doesnt have any hardfloat builds 16:32 < zombah> android dont use hardfloat yet 16:47 < marvin24> PaulFertser: the touchpad is really bad ... 16:47 < marvin24> I guess this is a hw limitation 16:48 < ogra_> or a finger limitation :) 16:53 <*> Quits ->RanX [~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-57-115.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@221.219.114.11] 17:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 17:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] 17:38 <*> Quits ->svp [~svp@62.112.106.78] [Quit: Leaving.] 18:03 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@nat.rnd.stcnet.ru] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:11 <*> Quits ->gcst_ [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-kmeualulolxfdtxf] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:12 <*> Quits ->zommi_ [quassel@nat/ibm/x-geeljjujwhcwcvlv] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->kottt [~Anton_Sel@84.52.98.79] [] 18:24 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombah@195.34.40.32] [Quit: Leaving.] 18:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 18:58 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 19:13 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: i'm not surprised, heh, it's just that in real life on general purpose computers that concept never took off ;) 19:14 < PaulFertser> marvin24: how come it works fine, then i close the lid then i open the lid, then i close the lid and every once in a while when i open the lid the touchpad functionality is foobared until reboot? 19:14 < PaulFertser> marvin24: that clearly is some driver issue. 19:15 < marvin24> maybe, maybe not 19:16 < marvin24> the resume /suspend for mouse isn't perfect 19:16 < marvin24> e.g. has some logical errors 19:16 < marvin24> but I'm not sure if this would fix the "fat fingers" problem 19:17 < marvin24> last time I tried to fix it causes a fail to resume problem ... 19:17 < PaulFertser> marvin24: there is no suspend/resume involved at all. 19:18 < PaulFertser> marvin24: i'm just closing the lid. 19:18 < PaulFertser> The only extra event that happens on my device is console blanking. 19:18 < PaulFertser> And when i open the lid console unblanks. And that's it. 19:18 < PaulFertser> Nothing extra. 19:23 < marvin24> huh? no suspend when you close the lid? 19:23 < marvin24> ah u-boot 19:23 < marvin24> well, in this case ... absolutely no idea 19:23 < PaulFertser> marvin24: even if i was using fastboot, i wouldn't configure my netbook to suspend on closing the lid. 19:24 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 19:31 <*> Quits ->epicmonkey [~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:31 < marvin24> PaulFertser: did you checked if the system tries to suspend? 19:31 < PaulFertser> marvin24: it doesn't 19:31 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E42EEA.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 20:05 <*> Quits ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:06 <*> Quits ->micolous [pirates@koji.tok0.micolous.id.au] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:07 <*> Quits ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E42EEA.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->epicmonkey [~epicmonke@188.134.41.211] 20:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 20:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E42EEA.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:03 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-lttlfxbtgglefcoo] [Quit: Verlassend] 21:51 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:55 <*> Quits ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E42EEA.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-214-2.21-151.libero.it] 22:06 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Jockel [5ce77846@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.231.120.70] 22:07 < Jockel> Hi 22:16 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 22:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gildean_ [gildean@salaliitto.com] 22:29 <*> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italian on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://ac100.grandou.net | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | Developer team & mailing-list: https://launchpad.net/~ac100 | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/logs 22:29 <*> Topic set by ggrandou [~quassel@clochette.grandou.net] [Mon Aug 15 20:06:17 2011] 22:29 [Users #ac100] 22:29 [ ale6 ] [ DJ_HiP` ] [ gomiboy ] [ longpig ] [ pol ] [ sven^ ] 22:29 [ ali_as ] [ dliviu ] [ grandrew ] [ marvin24 ] [ pol_ ] [ taruti ] 22:29 [ ard ] [ dpol ] [ gtom ] [ Mifun ] [ qpx ] [ Tequila] 22:29 [ armin76 ] [ Dr_Azrael_Tod] [ hectorvector] [ MikeEcho ] [ RanX_XeroX] [ tilmann] 22:29 [ arune ] [ e-ndy ] [ Hobbes` ] [ nashpa ] [ RaYmAn ] [ Unseen2] 22:29 [ balrog-k3n] [ elgaard ] [ infinity ] [ ogra_ ] [ savalik ] [ Vandroy] 22:29 [ Bubor ] [ epicmonkey ] [ jbrown ] [ ojn ] [ savalik1 ] [ woshty ] 22:29 [ Chipaca ] [ Eruquen ] [ Jockel ] [ p2-mate ] [ scoopr ] [ yaneti ] 22:29 [ chrisq ] [ gg ] [ kadduri ] [ panda|x201 ] [ Shahid ] [ zod ] 22:29 [ Daviey ] [ ggrandou ] [ kenws ] [ PaulFertser] [ Snark ] [ zod_ ] 22:29 [ DaZ ] [ gildean ] [ lenios ] [ pfoetchen ] [ srwarren ] [ ZyTer ] 22:29 [ DJ_HiP ] [ gildean_ ] [ leviathan_ ] [ phh ] [ stuw ] 22:29 <*> Irssi: #ac100: Total of 71 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 71 normal] 22:29 <*> Channel #ac100 created Sat Sep 18 20:56:21 2010 22:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->taruti_ [taruti@ultra.violetti.org] 22:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->balrog-k2n [~balrog@211-goc-32.acn.waw.pl] 22:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->e-ndy- [~e-ndy@fantomas.bestit.cz] 22:30 <*> Irssi: Join to #ac100 was synced in 81 secs 22:34 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: nashpa, zod, e-ndy, pol_, DJ_HiP, Daviey, balrog-k3n, savalik, kadduri, gildean, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:35 <*> You're now known as gildean 22:38 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.64.109] [] 22:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Daviey [~Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey] 22:39 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> hmm.. 22:40 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> fpc/lazarus broken 22:40 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> great! 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mentioning karma 21:35 < zombah> Jockel: i mean that last partition vfat 21:36 < zombah> Jockel: to android work again you probably need make default partition table with nvflash and restore all partitions from backup 21:37 < Jockel> i did not change the partition table while installing ubuntu 21:37 < Jockel> or? 21:38 <*> Quits ->epicmonkey [~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:38 < Jockel> did the ubuntu installer change any partition layout? 21:38 < marvin24> if ubuntu was installed on this vfat partition, you need to format it to vfat again 21:38 < Jockel> i think: no 21:38 < marvin24> no need to repartition it 21:38 < marvin24> android needs vfat 21:39 < zombah> aa true you can use sosboot to format partition to vfat back 21:39 < Jockel> i reflash all android partitions 2-14 to the ac100 21:39 < Jockel> i used nvflash to do so 21:39 < Jockel> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./nvflash -r --rawdevicewrite 1002240 14628096 ../20110815_203316_ac100_full_backup/14_UDB_raw.img 21:40 < marvin24> well, that should include the filesystem 21:40 < Jockel> this 14_UDB_raw.img is the last partiotion of my Android system 21:40 < Jockel> yes 21:40 < Jockel> i thiknk so too 21:40 < marvin24> yup 21:41 < Jockel> if i reflashed with nvflash...then i did not need to format the partitions or change the partition table layout 21:41 < Jockel> or? 21:42 < zombah> use logcat to collect log when apps not installing it may shed light on exec problem 21:43 < marvin24> Jockel: nvflash also "creates" the fs ... 21:43 < Jockel> that is a nice hint!!! 21:43 < Jockel> thanks 21:44 < Jockel> logcat is a tool from the android sdk-toolkit, or? 21:45 < zombah> logcat is console utility build in android, from sdk you need adb tool to connect with usb to toshiba to save logs to pc 21:45 < zombah> its like remote root shell thru usb or wifi 21:45 < Jockel> THANKS zombah 21:45 < zombah> np 21:46 < Jockel> i can run logcat from the Android terminal.... 21:46 < Jockel> or? 21:46 < Jockel> :) 21:46 < Jockel> that is fine 21:46 < Jockel> i check it 21:46 < zombah> yes you can also, but if you have problems with fs you cant save output 21:47 < zombah> also it output lot of noise not easy to find in realtime, better to analyze saved whole output 21:47 < zombah> btw if you have terminal installed you can check your 14'th partition intact or not 21:48 < zombah> probably you just miss Download foldet in it 21:48 < Jockel> it is mounted 21:48 < zombah> folder 21:48 < Jockel> and i can access to it 21:48 < Jockel> i can read and write to it 21:49 < zombah> check that Download exist in root of /sdcard 21:50 < Jockel> i have the folder "download" but not "Download" 21:50 < Jockel> is it case-sensitiv? 21:50 < Jockel> ;) 21:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39160.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:50 < zombah> yes 21:50 < zombah> rm download 21:50 < zombah> mkdir Download 21:51 < zombah> rm -rf download 21:51 < Jockel> i will try 21:51 < Jockel> yes 21:51 < zombah> but log prefered, as its only guess with Download folder 21:51 < mase76> hi zombah: i tried to debug my xserver with the tegra_drv problem. i got libc-do-syscall.S: no such file or directory 21:53 < zombah> mase76: hi, hm never saw that kind of error 21:53 < mase76> not sure, if this is a gdb error, or the cause of my segfault. 21:53 < zombah> mase76: is this error appear after you disabled nvavp? 21:53 < mase76> nvavp is disabled. 21:54 < zombah> i mean is disabling and error apear connected? 21:54 < mase76> i only tried with disabled nvavp 21:54 < zombah> i see 21:55 < mase76> i wanted to debug xorg, to see, where the segfault comes from. 21:55 < mase76> when i load the coredump, i get the above error. 21:55 < zombah> with strace? 21:55 < mase76> gdb 21:56 < zombah> aah i see, load it on other box 21:56 < mase76> no, on the ac100 21:56 < zombah> you have core file from crash? 21:56 < mase76> threw them away 21:56 < mase76> i could create a new one. 22:00 < mase76> can i load it on a x86 machine? 22:00 < zombah> hm dunno for sure 22:00 < zombah> i even dont know is ubuntu have debug symbols installed or not 22:02 < mase76> i am on debian. installed the debug symbols. 22:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 22:03 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39160.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05 < zombah> try these howto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing 22:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39160.dip.t-dialin.net] 22:15 < mase76> no, cannot load the core dump on a x86 machine. 22:20 < Jockel> zombah: i created /sdcard/Download 22:20 < Jockel> no succes 22:20 < Jockel> i logged the logcat output into a file 22:20 < Jockel> logcat | grep -v Alarm > logfile 22:20 < Jockel> but there is a lot of noise anymore.... 22:21 < Jockel> and i do not know what to search for 22:21 < zombah> logcat *:W or W:* 22:22 < zombah> or take full log with like this /system/bin/logcat -v time -f /data/log.txt 22:22 < zombah> and find by time stamp 22:22 < Jockel> what is *:W doing? 22:22 < zombah> show only warnings and errors 22:22 < Jockel> it is for spezial widgets? 22:23 < Jockel> thanks 22:23 < zombah> if *:E only errors 22:23 < Jockel> on Android rm -rf did not work :( a "rm -r " was fine ;) 22:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-214-2.21-151.libero.it] 22:24 < Jockel> how i can stop a active process (normaly done with CTRL+C) 22:24 < zombah> kill 22:24 < Jockel> i only have one terminal 22:24 < zombah> aa you logcat process? 22:25 < zombah> you mean 22:25 < Jockel> yes ;) 22:25 < zombah> make ctrl+c couple times 22:25 < Jockel> hehe 22:25 < Jockel> thanks 22:25 < Jockel> i will try 22:25 < Jockel> nothing 22:25 < Jockel> :( 22:25 < zombah> hm 22:26 < zombah> will check now, dont remember 22:26 < zombah> ctrl+c work for me 22:27 < Jockel> i think, my terminal app is bad 22:27 < zombah> probably your keycode for ctrl not working 22:27 < Jockel> ;) 22:27 < zombah> or app 22:27 < Jockel> yes, thank can be 22:27 < Jockel> that can be 22:27 < zombah> from adb it will work fine 22:27 < Jockel> i try to make a full log 22:27 < Jockel> :) 22:36 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:38 < Jockel> zombah: i found points in the log 22:38 < Jockel> it was a lot of noise in the log 22:38 < Jockel> but now i have something 22:39 < Jockel> E/vending RequestRunnable.run() Got auth failure from server -> invalid auth tokens 22:39 < Jockel> this is logged directly after "DOWNLOAD_PENDING" 22:41 < zombah> hm dont know what is this, try make factory reset maybe or google it 22:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->emulti [4e914916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.145.73.22] 22:41 <*> Quits ->zommi [~quassel@HSI-KBW-078-042-009-093.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42 < emulti> hello, has anyone else installed the 3.1 kernel from Launchpad brought in by linux-ac100 on 12.10? 22:42 < Jockel> yes i got a workaround by googeling 22:43 < emulti> Install fails for me at flash-kernel script stage 22:43 < Jockel> but where is the "menu"-button on the ac100 22:43 < Jockel> ? 22:43 < emulti> flash-kernel: installing version 3.1.10-3-ac100 Couldn't find Android boot partition on /dev/mmcblk0 22:44 < Jockel> the workaround I found: "Clear History" in the MArket 22:44 < Jockel> ;) 22:44 < Jockel> mut i need the menu-button ;) 22:46 < zombah> Jockel: the one on left from right ctrl proly 22:47 < Jockel> it is the key with the screen on it? 22:48 < Jockel> like an old television ;) 22:48 < Jockel> thanks 22:48 < Jockel> its working 22:48 < Jockel> LOL 22:48 < Jockel> sorry for this noise on the unix-development channel ;) 22:49 < Jockel> and thanks a lot zombah 22:52 <*> Quits ->emulti [4e914916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.145.73.22] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->emulti [4e914916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.145.73.22] 22:54 < emulti> reinstalled abootimg, and now the flash-kernel stage claims to 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here and I try console=tty1)? 23:07 < zombah> serial console must be ok, i use it with 3.1 right now 23:08 < zombah> with simply setting dual console in cmdline console=tty1 console=ttyS0,115200n8 23:08 < rpiloose> hi zombah, ok thanks, then I am stuck with the 3.0.27... 23:10 < zombah> also dunno about what framebuffer bug you mean in linux fb console work fine with current git 3.1 23:10 < zombah> in android i mean 23:12 < rpiloose> zombah: hum, no fb, just freeze in console mode... 23:14 < zombah> rpiloose: maybe some misconfiguration, mase76 already using 3.1 with linux as i heard from him, he fight with xserver crashes now 23:14 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25 < rpiloose> booting without cpu1 & rfkill block wlan = hard freeze 23:28 < zombah> this is my working config for android https://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-marvin24s-kernel/blobs/9496fb34fe9fb831fc1271ff7e80d417fde48866/arch/arm/configs/paz00_android_defconfig 23:39 < rpiloose> zombah: thx, I'll doing a diff from the modified marvin's paz00-defconfig and yours to sort what I mess (I hope gcc 4.7.1 and the lastest toolchain of archlinuxarm is not responsible of the troubles I encounter) 23:40 < zombah> as toolchain android use old 4.4.3 for cross compilation 23:44 < rpiloose> booted !!! :-))) :-) but for how long?!? (1 Cpu + rfill block and this time without playing with swapon partition) 23:45 < zombah> gratz 23:45 < rpiloose> rpiloose: AND with the BATTERY!!! :-/ 23:45 < zombah> ? 23:45 < rpiloose> *without 23:46 < zombah> i only have battery capacity polling issues, but status and all stuff seems fine 23:46 < rpiloose> I'll try to insert the battery (pray for me!) 23:46 < zombah> aah you removed it 23:46 < zombah> some kind of new trick to me 23:46 < rpiloose> zombah: yes, an old bug related to NVEC code... 23:48 < zombah> rpiloose: yes now i got, after nvec timeout, power button not working and i sometimes makes in/out for battery 23:48 < rpiloose> zombah: let's me verify if it's related or no... 23:53 < rpiloose> crash after rebooting removing power (kept battery and power cord connected)... I'll try other possibilities... 23:54 < rpiloose> crash = hard freeze (no caps lock alive) 23:57 < rpiloose> fully unpowered + boot w/o battery = hard^W (after some times) soft crash (caps lock alive)... 23:58 < zombah> strange never had issues like that 23:58 < zombah> what cmdline you use? 23:59 < rpiloose> zombah: let's me extract it again when I'll successfully boot it... --- Day changed Sun Jul 22 2012 00:01 < zombah> here is one i use: 00:01 < zombah> panic=10 video=tegrafb console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 no_console_suspend 00:01 < zombah> =1 earlyprintk tegraboot=sdmmc androidboot.hardware=paz00 tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200: 00:01 < zombah> 800,system:1f00:25800:800,cache:27700:32000:800,misc:59700:400:800,store:59c00:9a600:800,userdata:f4300:df3500:800 00:08 < rpiloose> w/o battery & cpu1 Off = hard crash (more precisely, when inserting the battery, the corresponding light after 5 or 10 seconds later... seems NVEC is flooded?) 00:09 < rpiloose> zombah: for an AC100-114 under ArchLinuxArm: 00:11 < rpiloose> mem=512M@0M tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800 console=tty1 console=ttyGS0,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk1p1 verbose debug console-setup/layoutcode=fr console-setup/variantcode=oss locale=fr_FR zcache 00:12 < zombah> try to disable zram i heard it broken or something 00:24 < rpiloose> zombah: w/o zram in /etc/rc.local = no luck (+w/o battery +rfkill block wlan) = hard freeze 00:27 < rpiloose> precision, my rootfs is on 8GB SD Card with nilfs2... until now no more luck, I am not able to boot again... :-( 00:28 < rpiloose> under Arch, systemd is used now which perhaps explain my random success to boot 00:29 < rpiloose> by the way, after messing my Arch, I found why I wasn't able to upgrade udev to version upper udev-175-1 00:30 < rpiloose> systemd need that /dev mount with devtmpfs filesystem not just tmpfs! 00:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->almohade [~almohade@2a01:e35:2e5e:1600:ac12:e95d:5b10:9c44] 00:32 < almohade> salut toulmonde 00:40 < rpiloose> zombah: you said you have a serial console? 00:40 < zombah> rpiloose: yes 00:41 < rpiloose> zombah: have another OS than Android on your AC1OO? 00:41 < rpiloose> *you 00:42 < zombah> rpiloose: no 00:42 < rpiloose> zombah: ok, thx 00:42 < zombah> rpiloose: stuw have arch and console, ask him daytime gmt he'll probably help with debug 00:44 < rpiloose> zombah: ok, thank you very much. My AC100 is in soft freeze this (when inserting battery, the battery led glow up immediatly!) 00:45 < rpiloose> time 00:46 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178137040.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 00:47 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->almohade [~almohade@2a01:e35:2e5e:1600:ac12:e95d:5b10:9c44] ["Quitte"] 01:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-a [~qicruser@78.164.243.40] 01:11 <*> Quits ->fly-a [~qicruser@78.164.243.40] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:48 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Quit: Page closed] 01:58 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.172.226] [] 01:59 < zombah> marvin24: disabling CONFIG_SERIO_NVEC_PS2 makes system more stable, i dont have nvec problems for about 20 reboots/poweroffs 02:11 < marvin24> zombah: ok 02:11 < marvin24> do you have more debug output? e.g. errors in dmesg? 02:13 < zombah> no errors now 02:15 < zombah> ah some times nvec nvec.2: timeout waiting for ec transfer 02:15 < zombah> occur, but now them not that critical as befor 02:17 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more research in ArchLinux Arm init process for reaching the level 3 without a hiccup ... :-/ 10:17 < rpiloose> I tried few tricks, like Cpu1Off, rfkill block wlan, io schedule cfg->deadline, w/o battery, inserting SD Card later, reduce frequence of Cpu0 to 216Mhz 10:18 < rpiloose> but generally hard freeze (caps lock & battery insertion don't bright the right led) and very few soft freeze... 10:19 < rpiloose> back to background. 10:19 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.160.109] [Quit: leaving] 10:25 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Quit: Leaving.] 10:58 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178134036.adsl.alicedsl.de] 11:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ac [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 12:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net] 12:10 < paultrafalgar> What would one call a computer attached to the AC100 which took over tasks that where too big for it (eg video rendering, compilation etc)? A Home server? I have dreamt of an Arm Linux Laptop for 10 years and we are not there yet (a machine to do everything but at low power) - maybe a home server is a better concept - what do you think? 12:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 12:29 < rpiloose> hi paultrafalgar, 12:30 < rpiloose> paultrafalgar: A Home server? << just use a Raspberry PI, thet are able to play 720p and even 1020p! 12:30 < rpiloose> *they 12:32 < paultrafalgar> rpiloose an RPi is not powerful enough to do all the work that an AC100 can't 12:33 < rpiloose> paultrafalgar: well, yes and no, RPi > AC100 because of it's better GPU support... 12:34 < paultrafalgar> an RPi is not a render farm! 12:35 < rpiloose> paultrafalgar: 10 at the price of the AC100 = Yes 8-) 12:35 < paultrafalgar> some calexeda boards might do it - what do i call that 12:36 < paultrafalgar> if i can get a name for it i can google it 12:37 < rpiloose> paultrafalgar: power cpu is does not solve all of the equation, more and more software are poorly written and waste too much rare cycle CPU... 12:39 < paultrafalgar> this is a CONCEPT - an AC100 for portability PLUS an add-on kit to do the rest 12:43 < paultrafalgar> padfone concept stretches downwards - this concept stretches upwards 12:43 < paultrafalgar> to the top! 12:55 < rpiloose> paultrafalgar: are you interested by this USB Stick (FXI Cotton Candy or Boxchip A10 HDMI stick or Always Innovating OMAP4 HDMI Dongle)? 12:55 < rpiloose> for example: http://armdevices.net/2012/05/28/74-boxchip-a10-hdmi-stick/ 13:00 < paultrafalgar> rpiloose these devices are not powerful enough 13:01 < rpiloose> then we have to wait for the rise of Cortex A15's SOC ... in 2014 ... 13:04 rpiloose wierd this is the first time I got a caps lock's led bright iced (@ 608MHz on Cpu0) 13:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 13:11 < rpiloose> hi stuw_ 13:12 < stuw_> rpiloose, hi 13:14 < rpiloose> stuw_: zombah told me this: stuw have arch and console, ask him daytime gmt he'll probably help with debug 13:15 < stuw_ac> rpiloose, what should I do to help you? 13:15 < rpiloose> herr stuw_ or stuw_ac?!? 13:16 < stuw_ac> I'm on my ac100 atm :) 13:16 < rpiloose> stuw_ac: have you a bootable 3.1 with modules/initrd/bootcfg? 13:17 < stuw_ac> not yet 13:17 < rpiloose> ouch 13:17 < stuw_ac> I could compile it 13:18 < stuw_ac> what kind of problems do you have with 3.1? 13:19 < rpiloose> stuw_ac: runnable at initrd level (a derivative of SOSBoot initrd) but when reaching level 3, freeze (many hard/few soft) and I never got login: only one time... 13:20 < rpiloose> stuw_ac: ah, I am able to fully boot an old U10.10 on /dev/mmcblk0p7... 13:21 < stuw_ac> hm 13:21 < stuw_ac> I will compile 3.1 and check it on my ac100 13:21 < rpiloose> stuw_ac: greats, but, perhaps you have better things to hack? 13:22 < stuw_ac> ? 13:23 rpiloose perhaps the xserver? 13:24 < stuw_ac> I never debug xserver. 13:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->I4U [5138a8be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.168.190] 13:28 <*> Quits ->stuw_ac [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Quit: Leaving] 13:29 < rpiloose> stuw_ac: then one question, when I compiled my kernel, I never get arch/arm/boot/tegra-paz00.dtb, I just get arch/arm/boot/dts/tegra-harmony.dts, is it expected? 13:31 < marvin24> rpiloose: these files belong to a device tree configuration 13:31 < marvin24> which is not support for 3.1 and therefore not needed 13:34 < rpiloose> hi marvin24, you said to do a make dtbs and after I did cat arch/arm/boot/dts/tegra-harmony.dts >> arch/arm/boot/zImage, which is incorrect? 13:34 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 13:35 < marvin24> rpiloose: only for mainline 13:36 < rpiloose> marvin24: ok, let's me abootimg -u /dev/mmcblk0p2 -k zImage alone... 13:43 <*> Quits ->I4U [5138a8be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.168.190] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:51 < stuw_> http://stuw.narod.ru/ac100/logs/ac100-arch-3.1-serial.log 13:54 < stuw_> rpiloose, marvin24 ^^^ 13:54 < rpiloose> stuw_: thx! :-( In summary: <1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0000000e 13:57 < rpiloose> and for me, with zImage w/o tegra-harmony.dts behind, I got a soft freeze (caps lock + battery insertion led notified) :-/ 14:02 < marvin24> stuw_, rpiloose: yes, also looks like console related 14:02 < marvin24> does arch use something like plymouth? 14:04 < rpiloose> marvin24: no, much more related to systemd-tools (which include udev), let's me try to boot again my old U10.10 armel (which don't have plymounth, I think)... 14:04 < marvin24> btw, 3.1 needs mem=512M@0 or you will loose 64M 14:04 < stuw_> marvin24, will correct cmdline 14:04 < marvin24> maybe boot with "nosplash" or something like this 14:05 < marvin24> I really like to fix this error, but the console subsys is like a jungle 14:05 < rpiloose> marvin24: yes, I did manage the mem=, about arch I compiled with the latest gcc 4.7.1 available, I succeed to boot one time, and it seems stable when alive... 14:06 < rpiloose> marvin24: yes, coding in the kernel is like coding in hell of concurrency, etc 14:06 < marvin24> yes, seems like a random corruption of a some virtual console structure 14:06 < PaulFertser> marvin24: it feels like the idea to use that nvidia 3.1 branch was kind of leading to pain for you. They dumped some shitty code and now you're trying to follow it, and that's while the upstream kernel works stable in that regard :( 14:07 < marvin24> PaulFertser: you can also use 3.0 if it is better 14:08 < rpiloose> marvin24: amazing, everytime I do the mount -o ro /dev/mmcblk1p1 /root, I got back quickly to the prompt shell, which is really the case with 3.0.27... 14:10 < PaulFertser> marvin24: i do use 3.0. I'm just sad to see you struggling... 14:10 < rpiloose> *rarelly 14:11 < rpiloose> one side note, the trackpad was disable for the test with zImage w/o tegra-harmony.dts 14:11 < stuw_> marvin24, same with mem=512M@0M rootwait rootfstype=ext4 root=/dev/mmcblk1p1 console=tty1 console=ttyS0,115200 14:12 < rpiloose> marvin24: U10.10 armel fully booted! ;-)) 14:12 < marvin24> stuw_: I pushed a new branch named l4t-r15-ac100 14:12 < marvin24> can you try this out? 14:12 < marvin24> it is based on l4t instead of the android branch 14:12 < stuw_> no 14:13 < marvin24> :-( 14:13 < marvin24> I asked because it doesn't crash here anymore (even with console=tty0) 14:13 < stuw_> updating... ) 14:13 < marvin24> maybe just by chance 14:23 < rpiloose> marvin24: hard freeze with console=tty0 and U10.10 on /dev/mmcblk0p7 14:24 < rpiloose> marvin24: not very hard freeze, the battery insertion works (red led glowing for charging) 14:28 < marvin24> rpiloose: which branch? 14:29 < rpiloose> marvin24: linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp 14:31 < marvin24> rpiloose: you may try l4t-r15-ac100 instead 14:32 < stuw_> http://stuw.narod.ru/ac100/logs/ac100-arch-3.1-r15-serial.log - l4t-r15-ac100 14:32 < stuw_> same with console=tty0 instead of console=tty1 14:33 < rpiloose> marvin24: I'll love to do it, but It's impossible for me to do a git clone of this branch through my unreliable Internet connexion (until there is a mean to do retry like wget -c ...) :-/ 14:35 < marvin24> rpiloose: git pull should only receive a few bytes 14:41 < rpiloose> marvin24: as usual, my weakness in git way me in impossible way, hence I do a git pull, I am able to see the l4t-r15-ac100 branch 14:45 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 15:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@46.158.72.179] 15:09 < marvin24> rpiloose: git checkout l4t-r15-ac100 ... 15:11 < rpiloose> marvin24: done, change in .git/config done, git pull --> CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in drivers/staging/nvec/nvec.c Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result. 15:12 rpiloose bad idea to try console=tty2, hopefuller power+home = SOSBoot 15:13 < marvin24> rpiloose: did you made any changes to nvec.c ? 15:14 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@46.158.72.179] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 15:14 < rpiloose> marvin24: no, where can I see the diff? 15:16 < marvin24> git diff 15:20 < rpiloose> marvin24: well, there is differences, how can I output to pastebin this? 15:21 < marvin24> git diff | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us 15:24 < rpiloose> marvin24: thx, well it already in the logs... :-/ 15:25 < rpiloose> marvin24: thx = http://sprunge.us/AhhH 15:29 < marvin24> rpiloose: I don't know what you did ... 15:29 < rpiloose> marvin24: me too! :-^ 15:29 < marvin24> just try git checkout l45-r15-ac100 15:30 < marvin24> or better "git checkout -f l4t-r15-ac100" 15:36 < marvin24> zomba 15:36 < marvin24> zombah, in case you read the backlog ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1104631/ 15:38 < rpiloose> marvin24: failed: git checkout -f l4t-r15-ac100 --> http://pastebin.com/DLTuRBTG 15:38 < rpiloose> marvin24: last week-end, I just do git clone -b linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp git://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel.git 15:38 < rpiloose> marvin24: then cd marvin24s-kernel 15:39 < rpiloose> marvin24: and after only 'git pull' to be update with your specific branch linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp 15:40 < marvin24> what happens if you do "git reset --hard l4t-r15-ac100" ? 15:41 < stuw_> git fetch ? 15:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@46.158.72.179] 15:42 < rpiloose> marvin24: HEAD is now at f6e51ae ARM: tegra: paz00: update defconfig 15:42 < stuw_> ah, no :) I should look at error first ) 15:44 < marvin24> rpiloose: no, you are still on the old branch 15:44 < rpiloose> marvin24: git reset --hard l4t-r15-ac100 --> http://pastebin.com/RACuqAWr 15:45 < marvin24> git pull maybe 15:45 < stuw_> git checkout master && git branch -D l4t-r15-ac100 && git checkout ... :) 15:46 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 15:51 < rpiloose> marvin24: stuw_ STOP, before I'll push you my .git/config because I manually modified it to include l4t-r15-ac100 15:53 < rpiloose> marvin24: stuw_ http://pastebin.com/qBtzNw1M 15:53 < rpiloose> I added the last section which is probably totally wrong 15:55 rpiloose to Linus Torvald about GIT = F..k .o. 15:55 < stuw_> why didn't you use git fetch ? 15:58 < stuw_> try to revert your changes and use git fetch 15:58 < stuw_> then git checkout 15:58 < stuw_> I usually use git checkout -b branch-name origin/branch-name 15:59 < rpiloose> stuw_: hmm, because I don't how to adapt the usage of git in my point of view, just copying source without blurbing the bandwith 16:01 < stuw_> maybe you can try to download tarball from gitorious ? 16:03 < rpiloose> stuw_: nice, I would love, but after how to integrate it under git to be able to do git pull... 16:04 < stuw_> uhmm :) 16:04 < stuw_> why do you need git pull? 16:05 < rpiloose> hence, time to rollback: deleted in .git/config the l4t-r15-ac100 section and I have done: git reset --hard linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp 16:06 < rpiloose> stuw_: heu, just for downloading the latest delta change, do you know another more efficent way? 16:08 < stuw_> you can download full tarball. Delta is available via git only I suppose :) 16:08 < stuw_> rpiloose, try git fetch 16:08 < stuw_> and git branch -r 16:09 < rpiloose> stuw_: ok, but before I just want to deleted the brain damage l4t-r15-ac100 in local repository 16:09 < rpiloose> stuw_: Switched to branch 'linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp' 16:10 < stuw_> git branch -D l4t-r15-ac100 16:12 < rpiloose> stuw_: Deleted branch l4t-r15-ac100 (was f6e51ae). = Thx, now git fetch 16:12 < stuw_> yes 16:14 <*> rpiloose is now known as git2loose 16:15 < git2loose> git branch -r --> http://pastebin.com/XhVR6MDM 16:17 < stuw_> git branch -b l4t-r15-ac100 origin/l4t-r15-ac100 16:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 16:19 < git2loose> stuw_: ok, thx: git branch -b l4t-r15-ac100 origin/l4t-r15-ac100 --> http://pastebin.com/ux57jydg 16:20 < git2loose> stuw_: git status 16:20 < git2loose> # On branch l4t-r15-ac100 16:20 < git2loose> nothing to commit (working directory clean) 16:20 < stuw_> looks good ) 16:21 < git2loose> stuw_: yes thank you to marvin24 & you too; time to do make paz00_defconfig zImage modules modules_install dtbs? 16:22 < stuw_> I'm not sure about dtbs ) 16:23 < git2loose> stuw_: yes, I know but it's hybrid branch with some strange behaviour... 16:25 git2loose very great: git pull --> Already up-to-date. 16:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->alandd [~me@c73wn1.wifi.halden.net] 16:33 < alandd> hi, i've just install ubuntu and I get lots of ports.ubuntu.com package reps missing and I get 404 when installing wicd. How do I work around that? 16:41 < git2loose> alandd: hi, resurrected from the logs archive at Fri Jun 29 2012 12:57 < ogra_> try to change from ports.u.c to archive.u.c + < ogra_> but only for the deb-src lines + ... 16:42 <*> git2loose is now known as rpiloose 16:42 < alandd> what does that mean? 16:44 < rpiloose> stuw_: marvin24 compile time natively on Arch Linux Arm (gcc 4.7.1) in a read-only chroot (weird, forget to mount -t tpmfs none /tmp) 16:45 < rpiloose> stuw_: marvin24 compilation will ended in around 90 minutes, but the kernel is linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp!!! 16:45 < stuw_> О_о 16:45 < stuw_> make distclean? 16:46 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48 < alandd> it doesn't work. How can I have the same list of ap's using network-manager that I get when using wicd. 16:48 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 16:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 16:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 16:54 < alandd> where can I manually get the wicd package? 16:55 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@46.158.72.179] [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58 < rpiloose> alandd: here perhaps, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/all/wicd-cli/download 17:00 < alandd> I think the version in the rep does not match the version of the file. I'll try the newer version. 17:00 < rpiloose> stuw: too lates, network blackout hidden your 'make distclean', but before playing with git, I have done a 'make mrproper', is it enough or I have to stop the compilation? 17:02 < stuw_> rpiloose, I don't know :( 17:02 < rpiloose> alandd: what does that mean? <-- there is something to amend in your /etc/apt/sources.list (but before modifying it DO A BACKUP, thank you)! 17:03 < zombah> rpiloose: mrproper is include distclean 17:05 < rpiloose> zombah: thx (I am not enable to open an another text console, for fetching inside Makefile, due to the fact I am at the initrd level with one sh process) :-[ 17:07 <*> Quits ->leviathan [~quassel@c-82-192-226-27.customer.ggaweb.ch] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07 < rpiloose> alandd: sorry, use this more accurate answer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/wicd 17:07 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> btw: i asked some days ago if golang runs on armhf: it does 17:08 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> just if anyone should ask again :-) 17:08 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and it compiles things for arm without any problems 17:08 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> at least so far i tried 17:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 17:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->cfn [~cfn@customer-200.50.livas.lv] 17:16 < cfn> hi... I have upgraded from precise to quantal (still on armel) and trying to get flashplayer working 17:17 < cfn> I have copied bin files from /usr/lib/firmare to /lib/firmware, but it still crashes 17:17 < cfn> it complains something about nvagp 17:18 < cfn> I have read that disabling nvagp might help, so I wonder how to do that? Kernel recompile only? 17:28 < zombah> cfn: this tweak helped in android, no info about how it will work in linux. Yes kernel recompile, change config then recompile 17:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 17:29 < cfn> will try another axf codec pack first... 17:30 < cfn> quantal is sooooo more stable for some reason 17:32 < rpiloose> stuw_: marvin24: zImage is ready! 17:34 < rpiloose> hence, modules compiled 17:37 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 17:46 <*> Quits ->alandd [~me@c73wn1.wifi.halden.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:49 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 17:55 < rpiloose> marvin24: l4t-r15-ac100 is still able to boot the old U10.10 (armel)! 17:56 < rpiloose> it seems udisks is a still a bit broken because it doesn't mount automaticly some partitions... 17:58 < rpiloose> heu, fail, no modules... :-^ 17:59 < zombah> marvin24: still often timeout ec transfer loops with your readl patch, couple reboots and it occur 18:00 < marvin24> zombah: ok, thanks for trying 18:01 < marvin24> zombah: make sure to release all power to reset the ec (remove ac and battery) 18:01 < zombah> marvin24: but it look like a bit different, previous at system startup nothing working, now i can move couple inches at startup and it begins 18:01 < zombah> marvin24: yes i know, sometimes reseting to recovery with old kernel also helps 18:02 < marvin24> I wonder what's can be so different in userspace to affect the kernel like this ... 18:04 < zombah> may i2c slave which now enabled after latest patch set affect? 18:06 < zombah> maybe to add some debug to nvec that it print something more informative? dunno is this possible to be more informative at all 18:11 < rpiloose> marvin24: armel vs armhf side effect or udev vs systemd-tools? 18:13 < marvin24> rpiloose: kernel doesn't know about armel or armhf 18:13 < marvin24> zombah: which patch you mean? 18:16 < zombah> marvin24: not exect patch but in latest defconfig update you enabled i2c slave, i though something changed on that front 18:17 < marvin24> zombah: ah, this driver is not used 18:17 < marvin24> so it shouldn't matter 18:20 < zombah> marvin24: oh i see 18:34 < cfn> ok, stupid question, did someone succeed in running accelerated flasplayer with youtube on kernel 3.0.27? 18:34 < rpiloose> marvin24: stuw: kernel.log of Ubuntu 10.10 boot with kernel 3.1 l4t-r15-ac100 --> http://pastebin.com/cGbex5M9 18:38 < marvin24> rpiloose: anything wrong with it? 18:39 < rpiloose> marvin24: about running under U10.10, nothing special, stable, running under Xorg and lightning as expected! ;-b 18:50 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 18:54 < rpiloose> marvin24: about the logs, few things intriguing like this: http://pastebin.com/hZFBj29u or this http://pastebin.com/KjDxU4Q7 18:59 < marvin24> rpiloose: not a serious problem 19:00 < marvin24> failed resume of usb hub is more serious ... 19:00 < marvin24> I wonder why they change their driver all the time ... 19:06 < rpiloose> marvin24: over all some tegra specifities seems to emerge (from my point of view): http://pastebin.com/Ajqr3eX1 19:08 rpiloose ohoh hard freeze at initrd level with l4t-r15-ac100 ... bad ... :,-( 19:10 rpiloose twice as bad ... time to move back to linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp ... 19:18 <*> Quits ->cfn [~cfn@customer-200.50.livas.lv] [Quit: Leaving] 19:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Geniack [~geniack@p5B27261B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 19:33 < Geniack> http://dpaste.org/mWFe3/ 19:33 < Geniack> something is wrong with my kjournald 19:33 < Geniack> anyone saw this before? 19:36 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42 < rpiloose> I saw in the boot logs, there a ttyGS1 port, where is it located on motherboard? 19:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 19:50 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 20:06 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.116.117.86] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:11 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:32 < stuw_> marvin24, http://stuw.narod.ru/ac100/patches/0001-tty-vt-don-t-write-to-zero-size-screen-buffer.patch 20:33 < marvin24> stuw_: oh, does it fix the console crash? 20:34 < stuw_> yes 20:35 < marvin24> cool, will try out! 20:36 < marvin24> stuw_: any idea why the screen buffer is zero? 20:37 < stuw_> didn't check it yet 20:45 < marvin24> stuw_: seem more reliable now 20:45 < marvin24> but I still had one crash on my ac100 without seriel console 20:45 < marvin24> [ 7.158575] con_write: tty 2 have zero size screen buffer 20:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 20:47 < rpiloose> stuw: simply Many Thanks! Thx. 20:53 < stuw_> marvin24, do you have crash each time or only once? 20:54 < marvin24> one out of two 20:54 < marvin24> will try more .. 21:00 < stuw_> rpiloose, does this patch work for you? 21:04 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-109-175.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:06 < marvin24> stuw_: looks like the one with serial console always works while the one without always fails 21:06 < marvin24> I have to add that the one with serial console doesn't have wifi or 3G card anymore 21:06 < marvin24> so it doesn't count ... 21:09 < rpiloose> stuw_: git git git ... then with your advises, it's ok now, but I need to trash my previous compilation, and nilfs_cleanerd in chroot of an old ARchLinux image is doing some cleanup. 21:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-60-213.adsl.inetia.pl] 21:10 < rpiloose> stuw_: in ether case, the result will ne not before 70~80 minutes... I'll post my progress on this side. Patch already applied. Thx again. 21:12 < marvin24> stuw_: got this when switching to console (also only sometimes): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105193/ 21:12 < rpiloose> *be + I was thinking of trigeering thing like BUGON which will print the call stack strace or better... 21:12 < marvin24> clearly something different now 21:14 < stuw_> yep, need to understand why screen size is zero 21:14 < stuw_> maybe my patch and this crash is related. 21:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@31.181.59.43] 21:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 21:32 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Quit: Leaving.] 21:37 < rpiloose> stuw_: starting compilation... with some locks kernel detection enabled. 21:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39A95.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:40 < mase76> i tried the ubuntu 3.1 kernel and the ubuntu tegra package. i only replaced the driver itself with the abi12 one. i still have the segfautl with this combination. i don't know, what else to do. 21:54 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 22:26 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39A95.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39A95.dip.t-dialin.net] 22:33 < rpiloose> stuw_: compiled, need some setting for installing correctly modules... 22:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 22:46 < rpiloose> stuw: booted! Just a bit very laggy but it boot! :-)) 22:47 < rpiloose> laggy against the one time I succeded to boot it, but it permit now to investigate what's wrong... 22:53 < rpiloose> nilfs_cleanerd is consuming too much cpu, and I got a hard freeze when trying to switch between tty1 -> tty2 22:55 < phh> oh no, the problem is not cpu 22:55 < phh> just the I/O 22:59 < rpiloose> stuw: booting ubuntu 10.10 (maverick) is ok! :-)) 23:00 < rpiloose> phh: yes, high I/O constrain which impact nilfs_cleanerd 23:01 < phh> i mean nilfs_cleanerd is consuming I/O not cpu 23:01 < phh> kill it when you need to use your ac100 23:01 < phh> and restart it when idling 23:05 < marvin24> there is also ionice and io_is_busy knob 23:06 < phh> not really 23:06 < phh> erase emmc operation is blocking and takes a long while 23:06 < rpiloose> crazy, 20% of minium load when doing nothing, this remenber me the old 2.6.38 days... 23:06 < phh> that's why it's slow 23:06 < phh> marvin24: unless you say it does work on nilfs_cleanerd 23:07 < phh> i think i've tested, but it would have been a loooooooong while ago 23:08 < marvin24> phh: you mean mmc subsys is blocking 23:08 < marvin24> but this wouldn't cause cpu load 23:08 < phh> marvin24: i'd say it's the eMMC itself who is hanged 23:08 < marvin24> 3.1 kernel has some option called "background io" 23:08 < marvin24> I wonder what it does 23:20 < zombah> mmc bkops? 23:54 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] 23:58 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39A95.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:59 < rpiloose> something catch my attention in kernel.log of U10.10 (mmcblk0p7) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105439/ --- Day changed Mon Jul 23 2012 00:00 < rpiloose> a BUG: key d17fe00c not in .data! 00:01 < rpiloose> I let you find the gorry cameleon which do that's horror! 8-) 00:03 <*> Quits ->Geniack [~geniack@p5B27261B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Quit: leaving] 00:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Geniack [~geniack@p5B27261B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 00:06 < Geniack> hello, i am running an nfs server on the ubuntu install... when the nfs server gets heavy load, this seems to freeze the ac100, because some i/o processes block... this is understandable... is there a way to limit i/o given to the nfs server or a way to make this system behave more like a server? 00:18 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@31.181.59.43] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 00:23 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178134036.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.129.52] [] 00:44 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DJ_HiP` [~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10] 00:46 <*> Quits ->DJ_HiP [~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:55 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:01 <*> DJ_HiP` is now known as DJ_HiP 02:12 <*> Quits ->Geniack [~geniack@p5B27261B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Geniack [~geniack@p5B2716B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 03:10 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24 <*> Quits ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 04:32 <*> Quits ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-170-32-131.tky.mesh.ad.jp] [Remote host closed the connection] 04:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.116.117.86] 04:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E42C75.dip.t-dialin.net] 04:49 <*> Quits ->gcst__ [~stenzel@pD9E43F98.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:03 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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if so what to do? 16:42 < phh> add -marm on gcc build options 16:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 16:45 <*> Quits ->ogra [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 16:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra [~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] 16:47 < paultrafalgar> phh thanks 16:51 <*> Quits ->ogra [~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 16:52 <*> Quits ->ogra [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 16:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra [~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] 16:52 <*> ogra is now known as ogra_ 16:53 < paultrafalgar> phh exactly where do i put that ? after ./configure dont work - after make? 16:53 < phh> i guess you could do make CC="gcc -marm" 16:54 < paultrafalgar> phh thx 17:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.116.117.86] 17:08 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 17:15 <*> Quits ->shadoweel_ [c4cad4d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.202.212.214] [Quit: Page closed] 17:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net] 17:19 < paultrafalgar> a different compile error to do with ffmpeg starting with: In file included from AudacityApp.cpp:70:0: 17:19 < paultrafalgar> FFmpeg.h:355:4: error: ‘SampleFormat’ does not name a type 17:19 < paultrafalgar> F 17:20 < paultrafalgar> i've seen that one before 17:26 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ZyTer [~oliv@wwwcache.univ-lr.fr] 17:28 < jbrown> paultrafalgar: thumb-2 doesn't have an rsc instruction IIRC 17:29 < jbrown> use ARM mode, or rewrite the inline asm (which I assume is where that's coming from -- I don't think GCC will emit it. ICBW about that!) 17:29 <*> Quits ->zommi [quassel@nat/ibm/x-doqlprledmzocwhp] [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 17:34 < paultrafalgar> jbrown well beyond my abilities (:-( 17:35 < jbrown> it might be relatively easy to find the processor-specific bit and disable it (to use generic code instead) -- dunno. 17:36 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-qczlmxeiwadynmgx] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-dlajlvsyphgihywy] 17:51 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] [Excess Flood] 17:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 18:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] 18:12 <*> Quits ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] [Quit: Leaving] 18:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] 18:22 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombah@195.34.40.32] [Quit: Leaving.] 18:38 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 18:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 19:00 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.116.117.86] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:09 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 19:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 19:29 <*> Quits ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:40 <*> Quits ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] 19:59 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 20:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 20:45 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-dlajlvsyphgihywy] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178136245.adsl.alicedsl.de] 20:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 21:06 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 21:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 21:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-a [~qicruser@95.10.122.147] 21:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->am_ [6d5f49ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.95.73.206] 21:31 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->am_ [6d5f49ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.95.73.206] [] 21:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.64.109] 22:01 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 22:24 <*> Quits ->fly-a [~qicruser@95.10.122.147] [Quit: qicr for android: faster and better] 22:45 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 22:46 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:50 < zombah> marvin24: hello, what you think nvec ps2 driver multitouch aware? im asking coz android have dual touch with our touch pad 22:50 < marvin24> zombah: it has two finger touch 22:51 < marvin24> the original kernel just degrated it to a simple mouse 22:56 < zombah> ah i see 23:03 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.64.109] [] 23:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->phariseo [53148c95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.20.140.149] 23:31 <*> Quits ->phariseo [53148c95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.20.140.149] [Client Quit] 23:58 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178136245.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Tue Jul 24 2012 00:42 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:18 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 02:42 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.116.117.86] 05:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DJ_HiP` [~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10] 05:08 <*> Quits ->DJ_HiP [~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10] [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 05:08 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 05:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 05:16 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Remote host closed the connection] 05:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 05:24 <*> DJ_HiP` is now known as DJ_HiP 05:33 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Quit: Leaving.] 05:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 05:40 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49 <*> Quits ->ZyTer [~oliv@wwwcache.univ-lr.fr] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:50 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.116.117.86] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:03 <*> Quits ->ojn` [~olof@173-13-129-225-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ojn [~olof@173-13-129-225-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] 09:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->kottt [~Anton_Sel@84.52.98.79] 09:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-a [~qicruser@91.199.166.2] 09:37 < kottt> hello, marvin24! 09:37 < kottt> did you seen new release of hardfloat-drivers for tegra? 09:37 < kottt> http://www.nvidia.com/content/devzone/linux-for-tegra.html 09:37 < fly-a> ko ttt: this is cool 09:46 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but no harmony anymore? 09:46 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> is ventana usable on ac100? 09:46 < kottt> yep 09:46 < kottt> * no harmony, i mean 09:47 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i mean.. that affacts nearly every tegra2-platform i ever considered buying 09:48 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> at least trimslice, ac100 and transformer? 09:49 < RaYmAn> transformer is ventana 09:49 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ah 09:49 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ok 09:49 < RaYmAn> but, anyways, doesn't matter 09:49 < RaYmAn> they are afaik just no longer supporting the harmony dev board 09:50 < RaYmAn> aslong add we can get nv kernels booting, ventana drivers are five 09:50 < RaYmAn> fine, even 09:52 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> hmm.. anyone had a look at those toradex-thingies? 09:53 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://www.toradex.com/En/Products/Colibri_Boards or http://armdevices.net/2011/03/04/toradex-shows-tegra2-computer-on-so-dimm-form-factor/ 10:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zommi [quassel@nat/ibm/x-zormklncdffciydd] 10:03 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> yay 10:03 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://armdevices.net/2012/07/14/kontron-ktt30-tegra3-mini-itx-motherboard-announced/ 10:03 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> \o/ 10:03 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> arm with sata and hdmi at last 10:03 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and in a usable form-factor too 10:04 < scoopr> gigabit ethernet too 10:07 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> while i still would prefer something on marvell armada 15000... 10:07 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> this is pretty cool 10:07 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> something like that is the next thing i will put into my mediacenter-foo 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/odroid-x-is-like-a-quad-core-raspberry-pi-for-129-20120712/ 10:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombah@195.34.40.32] 10:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.116.117.86] 10:44 < marvin24> kottt: yes, that's already a bit old now ;-) 10:46 < stuw> marvin24, why it is old? :) 10:46 < marvin24> "old" is relative 10:46 < marvin24> three weeks, is it? 10:46 < marvin24> the driver seems to be from Jun 3th 10:46 < stuw> link is available for three weeks? O_o 10:47 < marvin24> yes, shortly before the forum died 10:48 < marvin24> the driver was compiled in early June and packed on June 26th 10:50 < stuw> :) 10:50 < marvin24> stuw: it seems that Mark Brown won't pick the codec patch 10:50 < marvin24> is there anything else we can do? 10:50 < stuw> marvin24, yes, I will discuss it 10:50 < marvin24> the codec sheet says that there are two micbias but the chip has only one output 10:50 < stuw> I need to check our driver and wm8903 it once again to argue 10:50 < marvin24> can we enable the micbias when a mic is plugged in? 10:51 < marvin24> (if it isn't done so yet, didn't checked) 10:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 10:52 < stuw> I don't understand micbias concept. Supply widget is not interpreted as external in snd core. This is why we have so strange behaviour. 10:53 < stuw> marvin24, we enable micbiases. But we have two power control regs (one reg per micbias). 10:54 < stuw> and only one physical pin :) 10:56 < marvin24> maybe they just forgot one pin in the layout picture 10:56 < marvin24> otherwise, micbias2 seems to be fully functional 10:57 < stuw> marvin24, maybe :) In this case regs count is right. But snd core confuse me in any case :) 11:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] 11:25 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.64.109] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34 <*> Quits ->fly-a [~qicruser@91.199.166.2] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 11:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 13:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tanuki [65a616e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.166.22.233] 13:04 < Tanuki> Does the nvidia-tegra driver for armhf from Quantal (Here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/armhf/nvidia-tegra/15.1.0-0ubuntu1) work with Precise? 13:05 < Tanuki> It's installed cleanly but I can't determine whether its worked, or how to check 13:06 < jbrown> if you're on a 3.0 kernel, I think the answer is "not very well" (I haven't tried.) 13:06 < jbrown> you can do "xdpyinfo" to see what driver you're using, probably. 13:06 < jbrown> or look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log 13:08 < ogra_> no., it doesnt work with any on the packaged kernels atm 13:08 < ogra_> s/on/of/ 13:08 < Tanuki> ok, thanks 13:08 < Tanuki> so it can work, it just need to patch/build my own kernel? 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i have a coredump, but when I load it, I get an error. 21:43 < mase76> I got something like this: libc-do-syscall.S: no such file or directory 21:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik1 [~urka@92.255.66.181] 21:48 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.22] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-132-5.21-151.libero.it] 21:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:56 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:59 <*> Quits ->savalik1 [~urka@92.255.66.181] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:07 < marvin24> mase76: should not be fatal 22:07 < marvin24> it just searches for a source file 22:13 < mase76> is the 3.1 driver based on tegra-l4t-r15-rc? 22:17 < marvin24> mase76: you mean the graphics driver? 22:17 < marvin24> r15 is for 3.1 kernel, yes 22:17 < mase76> oops! i mean the kernel. 22:18 < marvin24> the l4t-r15-ac100 branch is 22:19 < mase76> so it would make no difference. i also upgraded xorg to sid. still the same. 22:22 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-132-5.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 22:22 < marvin24> did you compiled a l4t-r15-ac100 kernel 22:22 < marvin24> ? 22:22 < marvin24> 3.1-exp should also work 22:22 < mase76> no, only your 3.1 branch 22:23 < mase76> this is the one i have 22:24 < mase76> no more freezes like i had in 3.0. but without binary driver, i have to switch to console and back to x to get my desktop again after display powersave. that is the only issue. 22:25 < mase76> ah, and the wrong colours in the browser. 22:25 < mase76> the rest is stable. 22:26 < marvin24> mase76: and when you get a coredump? 22:28 < mase76> i had to do it manually with ulimit 22:29 < mase76> i still have it here, but cannot load it 22:29 < zombah> marvin24: i tested no preempt kernel for whole evening no probs, so its it for sure. will try voluntary now 22:30 < marvin24> mase76: I mean you said that the xserver coredumps ... 22:30 < marvin24> zombah: nice, thanks for testing! 22:31 < mase76> no, i wanted to let xorg create a coredump, to see a backtrace. the one in the log says nothing. 22:33 < marvin24> I still don't understand what you want to accomplish ... 22:34 < mase76> ok, the xorg log did not say anything, only a segfault at address blabla 22:36 < mase76> so i installed the debugging symbols of xorg and did a ulimit -c unlimited. 22:36 < mase76> then i started x manually. after the segfault, i got a corefile. and i cannot open it with gdb. 22:36 < mase76> i get only the above error. 22:38 < mase76> is ubuntu also on abi12 now? 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17:27 < paultrafalgar> removed all allowable unity options 17:28 < paultrafalgar> ogra i think not 17:30 < paultrafalgar> allowable = where nothing vital is going to be removed 17:31 < paultrafalgar> so my guess is that the dependencies on removing unity are wrong 17:31 < ogra_> why would your desktop have anything to do with broken bootability 17:31 < ogra_> how does it hang ? 17:32 < ogra_> what are the sympütoms 17:32 < paultrafalgar> reached this 4 option screen and there freezes 17:33 < ogra_> 4 option screen ? 17:33 < paultrafalgar> i'll reboot it and try to transcribe it here 17:35 < paultrafalgar> What would you like to do: 17:35 < ogra_> i just wnat to know wheer/how it hangs exactly 17:35 < ogra_> *where even 17:35 < paultrafalgar> Run in low-graphics mode 17:35 < ogra_> so it fully boots 17:36 < ogra_> seems you broke your xserver 17:36 < paultrafalgar> Reconfigure graphics 17:36 < ogra_> yeah, i dont think there is any support for ac100 in that code 17:36 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36 < paultrafalgar> Troubleshoot the error 17:36 < ogra_> ctrl+alt+f1 should get you to a login so you can fix whatever yu broke 17:37 < paultrafalgar> Exit to console login 17:37 < ogra_> smells pretty much like you removed something essential that breaks your xserver startup 17:37 < ogra_> like the login manager for example 17:38 < paultrafalgar> only unity stuff 17:38 < paultrafalgar> ctrl-alt-f1 gets me to the prompt 17:38 < ogra_> how do you knwo ? 17:38 < ogra_> right, go from there to fix it 17:39 < ogra_> re-add what you removed piece by piece and you should find the offending bit 17:40 < paultrafalgar> used synaptic and removed only unity stuff 17:40 < ogra_> you said so about seven times, yes 17:42 < paultrafalgar> sorry for being so thick (:-( 17:43 < ogra_> well, there isnt much anyone can help you with 17:43 < paultrafalgar> sorry for being so thick (:-( 17:43 < ogra_> you shot your foot, you have to fix it 17:44 < paultrafalgar> is there a reconfigure graphics command i could use 17:44 < ogra_> i dont know what you removed etc, just make sure to add these bits back ... worst case by re-installing ubuntu-desktop 17:45 < paultrafalgar> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ? 17:45 < ogra_> right 17:45 < paultrafalgar> thanks I'll try that 17:46 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombah@195.34.40.32] [Quit: Leaving.] 17:56 < paultrafalgar> ogra all fixed thankyou very much 17:56 < ogra_> good, next time remove the bits piece by piece and test after each removal 17:58 < paultrafalgar> usually the dependency warnings protect me - this time they didn't 17:58 < paultrafalgar> bye 17:59 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 18:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E43B27.dip.t-dialin.net] 18:08 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-121-186.adsl.inetia.pl] [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:15 <*> Quits ->e-ndy [~e-ndy@fantomas.bestit.cz] [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 18:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-165-249.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 19:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net] 19:08 < paultrafalgar> The Raspberry Pi has a significant advantage in that the whole operating system can be put on an SD card and cards swopped to change OS. Would it be possible to do this with the AC100 (maybe by replicating the internal emmc to the SD card and forcing a boot solely from there)? 19:13 < ogra_> that has always been possible 19:13 < paultrafalgar> s/emmc/partitions 19:13 < ogra_> even the ubuntu image supports installing to USB or SD 19:14 < ogra_> (it does that automatically if another target device is plugged in at install time) 19:14 < paultrafalgar> ogra but if i change sd card to another os it won't work? 19:14 < ogra_> not with the current setup we use in ubuntu 19:15 < ogra_> but you can easily fix that by setting root= to a device mane instead of a UUID 19:15 < ogra_> *name 19:16 < paultrafalgar> is that in fstab? 19:16 < ogra_> the prob is that the bootloader for the RPi or beagleboard or pandaboard or you-name-a-board can live on the SD 19:16 < paultrafalgar> why not on ac100? 19:16 < ogra_> while the ac100 needs its loader to live in the right space on the internal MMC 19:17 < ogra_> you can work around that by chainloading u-boot and have a u-boot script that reads the kernel etc from SD or USB 19:17 < ogra_> but thats a lot of work to properly implement in an image 19:18 < ogra_> if you want to do it manually yourself, nobody will stop you, i think PaulFertser runs such a setup 19:20 ogra_ just notices that we seem to grow a conspiracy of pauls in this channel :) 19:20 < paultrafalgar> PaulFertser can you provide a wiki and/or images? 19:20 < ogra_> i doubt there are actual images, you will likely have to do it y hand 19:21 < paultrafalgar> some of these pauls are clever others aren't (:-) 19:22 < ogra_> pfft, you are surely cleverer than me in some areas 19:22 < paultrafalgar> not likely 19:22 < ogra_> everyone is clever in some way or the other 19:22 < ogra_> and very likely in areas others arent 19:23 < paultrafalgar> anyway irc is pooled cleverness 19:23 < ogra_> definitely 19:24 < paultrafalgar> off to cook dinner 19:24 < paultrafalgar> bye 19:25 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-180-82.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 19:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 19:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev]_ [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 19:58 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:00 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev]_ [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Client Quit] 20:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 20:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@87.228.2.110] 20:47 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-oggtlckjaavqykyh] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:59 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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I want to merge them to me also to try maybe that will fix lp0 suspend 12:40 < zombah> marvin24: i mean commits to l4t-r15 branch 12:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 12:48 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-153-117.adsl.inetia.pl] [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-152-74.adsl.inetia.pl] 13:11 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@58.83.252.131] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-cygtctpqywilunoc] 13:39 < marvin24> zombah: they are from 3.1-exp (more or less) 13:53 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 14:09 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-152-74.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:16 < zombah> marvin24: i see, though thats something new 14:16 < marvin24> mmh? 14:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-127-255.adsl.inetia.pl] 14:17 < zombah> https://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/commit/c130410759983351c1ba6624baa0fd34c5462918 14:18 < marvin24> "they" exchanged large parts of their usb driver from l4t->android 14:19 < marvin24> I thought porting it would solve the resume issue, but in fact, only one patch was necessary 14:19 < marvin24> (the last one) 14:21 < zombah> ok will try it 15:35 <*> Quits ->pol [~quassel@vps.labedan.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->pol [~quassel@vps.labedan.fr] 16:16 <*> Quits ->andybooth [~boothy@188.84.6.177] [Quit: leaving] 16:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->andybooth [~boothy@188.84.6.177] 16:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@213.222.248.134] 16:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->kottt [~Anton_Sel@84.52.98.79] 16:58 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 17:03 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->kottt [~Anton_Sel@84.52.98.79] [] 17:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B6CD.dip.t-dialin.net] 17:46 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-vjmyuzwgtmppghnm] [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-dbwyqoohiuosqsfe] 17:53 <*> Quits ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 18:15 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B6CD.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B6CD.dip.t-dialin.net] 18:23 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombah@195.34.40.32] [Quit: Leaving.] 18:42 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@213.222.248.134] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:49 <*> DaZ is now known as ania12lat 19:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->I4U [5138a8be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.168.190] 19:08 <*> Quits ->I4U [5138a8be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.168.190] [Client Quit] 19:16 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-dbwyqoohiuosqsfe] [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:26 <*> ania12lat is now known as ania13lat 19:29 <*> ania13lat is now known as DaZ 20:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 20:04 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:40 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-cygtctpqywilunoc] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3B6CD.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:45 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3B6CD.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B6CD.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B6CD.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 20:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p54941ECF.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:36 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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I need help with kernel 3.1, after run X is crashing with tegra, no problem with FB.. wheezy privide X 1.12 so I had to use L4T r15 for get tegra lib compatible. any idea? 16:18 <*> Marvnix is now known as ali_nux 16:27 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@nat.rnd.stcnet.ru] [Quit: leaving] 16:31 < ali_nux> I'm guessing but you might need to fill in some blanks, I can't guess what you are doing or how you did it. 16:38 < iz1glg_> i followed this http://ac100.grandou.net/kerneldev 16:39 < ali_nux> My ac100 is diing with a click when I close/open it slightly, is this likely a hardware or software fault? 16:39 < iz1glg_> for linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp branch 16:40 < iz1glg_> i have the same 16:40 < iz1glg_> for few sedond very slow and than it's simpli stop 16:41 < iz1glg_> on kernel 3.0 is not so frequent, on 3.1 more 16:41 < ali_nux> I can't begin to help with what you are doing, but does kdb work on the ac100? 16:42 < iz1glg_> let me see 16:51 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 16:52 < iz1glg_> in my kernel i got kgdb 16:53 < iz1glg_> so i've to wire a rs232 and debug? 16:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 16:53 < marvin24> iz1glg_: wait wait 16:54 < marvin24> which distro do you use? 16:54 < marvin24> ah, wheezy 16:55 < marvin24> do you get any oops in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? 16:56 < marvin24> is this a armhf system? 16:57 < iz1glg_> wheezy is on armel 16:58 < iz1glg_> than i've a armhf ubuntu 12.10 but is crashing X after open xterminal 16:59 < iz1glg_> in /var/log/Xorg.0.log there are no errors 17:01 < iz1glg_> both use X 1.12 and l4t r15 for nvidia tegra lib 17:03 < marvin24> iz1glg_: I guess you used the hf or el versions of the nvidia drivers ... ? 17:03 < marvin24> personally, I have no problems on ubuntu 12.04/armhf 17:04 < marvin24> but I remember one guy who had similar crashes 17:05 < iz1glg_> can be model problem ? 17:05 < marvin24> I don't think so 17:05 < marvin24> did you compiled your own kernel? 17:05 < iz1glg_> here in italy we got 10g 17:07 < iz1glg_> or something not good in bootimg.cfg ? 17:08 < marvin24> you said Xorg is crashing 17:08 < marvin24> does the login screen come up? 17:08 < marvin24> how did you installed the nvidia drivers? 17:08 < iz1glg_> on ubuntu i'm sure is Xorg 17:08 < marvin24> maybe you mixed some libraries 17:08 < iz1glg_> on debian it simply hangs with no way to go in console 17:09 < marvin24> did you specified console=tty1 on kernel command line? 17:09 < iz1glg_> so can be kernel on debian 17:09 < iz1glg_> the problem 17:09 < iz1glg_> i have tty0 17:09 < marvin24> ah, please try tty1 17:10 < marvin24> theres a known bug causing hangs when using tty0 17:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39352.dip.t-dialin.net] 17:10 < iz1glg_> nice to hear, let me see :) 17:10 < ogra_> console=tty0 is a complete no-op ... thats the default ;) 17:11 < mase76> hi! what is the state of the r15 kernel? is it usable, or are there any heavy issues? 17:11 < marvin24> ogra_: yeah, crash on boot is the default ;-) 17:11 < ogra_> hehe 17:11 < marvin24> mase76: don't know until you tested it ... 17:11 < mase76> did you never try it? is it also a 3.1 kernel? 17:12 < ogra_> i thionk jani works on a fresh ubuntu package for quantal too ... 17:14 < marvin24> mase76: I use it of course 17:14 < marvin24> it is the reference source for the r15 drivers 17:14 < marvin24> but also a bit behind the android sources 17:14 < marvin24> maybe someone should ping nv to release a rc2 .... 17:15 < mase76> but it is still a 3.1? 17:15 < marvin24> yes 17:15 < mase76> framebuffer issues? 17:15 < marvin24> sure 17:15 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-112-164.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15 < marvin24> the nv guy who wanted to fix it ran away :-( 17:16 < mase76> so it seems to be not very different from nv-tegra-3.1-exp 17:16 < ogra_> have you been rude to him ? 17:17 < marvin24> well, just as usual ... 17:18 < marvin24> I think he was able to see the hang on ventana 17:18 < marvin24> but got no oops 17:19 < marvin24> maybe some trimslice users can help 17:19 < marvin24> they should have the same problems (or not) 17:20 < mase76> one last question: should i enable avp mmu and the spi controller? 17:20 < marvin24> what does paz00_defconfig contain? 17:20 < marvin24> beside that, we don't use spi 17:22 < mase76> ok, i will build and try... 17:26 < iz1glg_> what's the difference between nv-3.1-exp and l4t-r15 kernels ? 17:27 < iz1glg_> i triend both and nv-3.1-exp is more stable 17:34 <*> Quits ->shibz [5e0fa3b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.15.163.177] [Quit: Page closed] 17:46 <*> Quits ->iz1glg_ [~iz1glg@dynamic-adsl-84-221-125-186.clienti.tiscali.it] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->iz1glg_ [~iz1glg@ppp-176-106.33-151.iol.it] 18:02 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-yqyehpvtnjaairnq] [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:43 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-58-111.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-102-53.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:03 <*> Quits ->dliviu [~dliviu@fw-tnat.cambridge.arm.com] [Quit: Leaving.] 19:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:16 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39352.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24 < marvin24> iz1glg_: possible, it has more bug fixes 19:24 < marvin24> lets hope nv releases a new rc soon 19:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39352.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:02 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-102-53.adsl.inetia.pl] [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-60-173.adsl.inetia.pl] 20:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 20:14 <*> Quits ->iz1glg_ [~iz1glg@ppp-176-106.33-151.iol.it] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:47 < mase76> marvin24: i was able to open the corefile of xorg. 20:48 < marvin24> mase76: so your Xorg server segfaults? 20:48 < mase76> 0x4067ca04 in txaComposite () from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/tegra_drv.so 20:48 < mase76> yes 20:48 < marvin24> when? 20:50 < mase76> logging into lightdm. the xfce panels appear, that x crashes. 20:50 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-wpysfiqcpzjgplpu] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:55 < mase76> maybe the gcc version used to build xorg in wheezy. 20:56 < marvin24> mmh, wheezy again ... 20:57 < marvin24> mase76: is composting activated? 20:57 < mase76> tried activated and deactivated. 21:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 21:07 < marvin24> how? 21:07 < marvin24> killall compiz? 21:11 < mase76> no, in the xfce window settings 21:12 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39352.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39352.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:21 < mase76> no compositing enabled at all. 21:22 < mase76> but the segfault happens, when the desktop is to be drawn. 21:23 < mase76> i see the panel, the wallpaper, then the drive symbols are drawn, and then bang. 21:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 21:35 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 21:45 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39352.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39352.dip.t-dialin.net] 22:00 < mase76> i removed xfce to end up in xterm. i can launch some applications, for example audacity. some other cause the segfault. 22:02 < mase76> openttd also runs. iceweasel, gimp, xchat don't. 22:19 < marvin24> can you check if the libraries are installed at the right place? 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Installation proceeded. When ac100 reboot, it starts again on bootimg 18:09 < I4U> Am I alone? 18:11 < I4U> Quantal image used: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/ 120728 03:35 18:14 <*> Quits ->yaneti [~yaneti@indigo.declera.com] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:15 < I4U> Is my explanation right or not? 18:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->yaneti [~yaneti@indigo.declera.com] 18:18 < PaulFertser> I4U: hi 18:18 < PaulFertser> I4U: usually many people present here 18:19 < PaulFertser> I4U: but i've no idea about ubuntu. 18:19 < I4U> Sad... but thank for answer. 18:19 < I4U> I will try again with the tomorrow build. 18:20 < PaulFertser> I4U: what do you mean by "bootmig starts again"? 18:21 < I4U> the ac100 had to boot on ubuntu, but it starts again the process of installation from the quantal-preinstalled....bootimg file 18:22 < PaulFertser> I4U: you're supposed to remove the usb key before rebooting. 18:22 < I4U> I did it, but the bootimg is loaded in partition #6 18:23 < I4U> I guess the bootloader hasn't been installed properly. 18:23 < I4U> I don't know I can check. 18:23 < PaulFertser> I4U: i do not think ubuntu changes the bootloader 18:23 < PaulFertser> I4U: it's still the fastboot used 18:24 < PaulFertser> I4U: ubuntu should automatically pack the kernel with abootimg and flash it to the appropriate partition. 18:24 < PaulFertser> I4U: if it doesn't, well, just do it manually. There's plenty of info at http://ac100.grandou.net 18:25 < I4U> OK, I will try. 18:28 < PaulFertser> I4U: probably it's just missing the dependency on the ac100-specific kernel and if you apt-get it manually, it'll do the right thing. 18:28 < I4U> How can I apt-get if the system doesn't start? 18:29 < I4U> (on the installation wiki on grandou.net, he gives a link for Oneiric, this one I used to install the system). 18:30 < PaulFertser> I4U: you can apt-get after the installation is complete and before rebooting obviously. 18:31 < I4U> messages on boot: ubuntu boot img / Error: no tarball found Spawning a shell within the initramfs/ .../ (initramfs) 18:31 < I4U> Ok I can try to install the system again. 18:41 < I4U> In fact, at the end of the installation process, the system reboot automaticaly, I can't do anything between the end of installation and rebooting. 18:43 < marvin24> I4U: maybe the initrd creating and kernel flashing doesn't work yet 18:43 < marvin24> you could try to repair it from the initrd though 18:43 < I4U> How can I do? 18:44 < marvin24> where did you installed root? 18:44 < marvin24> mmcblk0p7 or mmcblk1p1? 18:44 < marvin24> mount the root partition and chroot to it 18:44 < marvin24> maybe just typing "exit" should also work 18:45 < marvin24> (after you mounted it) 18:45 < marvin24> PaulFertser: just got uboot and 3.1 kernel booting 18:45 < marvin24> but somehow usb doesn't work yet ... 18:47 < I4U> boot image is written on partition mmcblk0p4. Answer to your question? 18:50 < I4U> Here are the informations printed on screen during the installation process: 18:50 < I4U> found quantal-preinstalled....tar.gz on /dev/sda1 Verifying Ubuntu AC100 tarball installer if you enter Y below, all data on /dev/mmcblk0p12 will be destroyed and Ubuntu will be installed on it. Entering N will reboot. Are you sure you want to proceed: formatting /dev/mmcblk0p12 Unpacking filesystem to /dev/mmcblk0p12, please wait ... reading config args Writing boot image /dev/mmcblk0p4 Reading database 113334 files.... Removing 18:51 < marvin24> I4U: ok 18:51 < marvin24> not sure if mmcblk0p4 is the right one 18:51 < marvin24> did you repartition you device? 18:51 < marvin24> which model is it? 18:52 < I4U> ac100-114, I installed oneiric and I wanted to give a try to quantal (hoping hardware acceleration). 18:52 < I4U> No extra manipulation. 18:53 < marvin24> not sure, but you could try mmcblk0p2 for kernel instead 18:53 < marvin24> mount /dev/mmcblk0p12 /root 18:53 < marvin24> exit 18:54 < marvin24> ^^^ you can type this in your emergency console 18:54 < I4U> OK, just a while and I try this. 18:56 < I4U> At the end of the installation session, I have the strange message (I can't read last time): 18:56 < I4U> Rebooting into configuration session 18:59 < I4U> I just try to mount mmcblk0p12 as root, but it starts again on bootimg. 18:59 < I4U> No change! 19:03 < PaulFertser> marvin24: hey :) do you mean u-boot needed some tweaks? 19:04 < I4U> PaulFertser - Marvin24: Thanks for help... :) 19:04 <*> Quits ->I4U [5138a8be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.168.190] [Quit: Page closed] 19:07 < marvin24> PaulFertser: no, but a kernel option was missing 19:08 < marvin24> also, android kernel is again a bit forward, so l4t kernel won't boot now 19:08 < marvin24> I'll try to fixup usb first 19:10 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@87.228.2.110] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26 < ogra_> he should have used the alpha3 image ... right after alpha3 was released flash-kernel broke 19:27 < ogra_> will take a few days to be fixed 19:29 < marvin24> ogra_: I get a lot of "Failed to create pty - disabling logging for job" 19:29 < marvin24> when booting with uboot .. 19:29 < marvin24> but not with fastboot 19:29 < marvin24> any idea? 19:30 < marvin24> "init: Temporary process spawn error: No such file or directory" is the 2nd line 19:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->I4U [5138a8be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.168.190] 20:11 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->I4U [5138a8be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.168.190] [] 20:21 < ogra_> marvin24, add nolog to the cdmline 20:21 < ogra_> *cmdline 20:22 < marvin24> ogra_: I wonder why it only happens with uboot ... 21:35 <*> Quits ->kenws [~ken@elliptique.net] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->kenws [~ken@elliptique.net] 21:45 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->motonacciu [~motonacci@85-127-222-127.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] [] 22:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->SplinTer18 [~kvirc@81.88.213.7] 22:04 < SplinTer18> âñåì ïðèâåò) 22:06 < SplinTer18> ýýììì à ÷å òèøèíà òàêàÿ??? 22:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 22:13 < stuw_> SplinTer18, what encoding do you use? 22:13 < SplinTer18> I'm sorry, I wrote into russian 22:14 < SplinTer18> stuw_: I'm sorry, I wrote into russian 22:15 < SplinTer18> equals, invited me for testing ac100 22:15 < PaulFertser> Hm, is ridiculing someone because of his grammar mistakes a bad netiquete? :) 22:17 PaulFertser expects being ridiculed because of his spelling mistakes :) 22:18 < SplinTer18> sorry me for my English)) 22:20 <*> Quits ->SplinTer18 [~kvirc@81.88.213.7] [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:21 < PaulFertser> I didn't mean it at all :( 22:22 < PaulFertser> I guess he's not used to irc... 22:22 < PaulFertser> Sorry 22:22 < stuw_> I hope he will be back :) 22:24 < PaulFertser> He said "Hi everybody. 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00:50 < marvin24> I remeber there was a HIGH_PRIO flag, but cannot find it ... 00:54 < marvin24> maybe you can find out the irq thread pid 00:56 < zombah-home> what do you mean? i can see irq pids in /proc/interrupts 00:59 marvin24 needs to boot his ac100 first 00:59 < zombah-home> nvec irq 124 here 01:00 < zombah-home> but in /proc/irq/124/ not much to change, except smp_affinity 01:01 < marvin24> yes, same here ... 01:03 < zombah-home> just remember want to ask you machine id in board-paz00 is need for something or not? 01:04 < zombah-home> asking because i changed it for android, it parse it for init config dunno why 01:05 < marvin24> normally the bootloader passes the machine id to the kernel 01:05 < marvin24> so it can select the right board to init 01:06 < marvin24> but our bootloader is a bit stange 01:07 < marvin24> seems to me it scans the kernel for the machine id and uses this one 01:07 < marvin24> well, if it works for you, fine 01:07 < marvin24> what machine id do you use? 01:07 < zombah-home> paz00 01:08 < zombah-home> i checked other boards all use something like this 01:08 < marvin24> mmh? 01:08 < marvin24> all use paz00? 01:09 < marvin24> this is 3128 AFAIR 01:09 < zombah-home> no, like cardhu use cardhu, ventana = ventana 01:09 < marvin24> so, what's wrong with paz00? 01:09 < marvin24> ac100 = paz00 01:10 < marvin24> the old bootloader needs two machine ids, paz00 and harmony for some strange reason 01:10 < zombah-home> nothing wrong, i only thought maybe this can cause some problems if something use it 01:12 < marvin24> paz00 should only work for our device 01:12 < marvin24> but as I said, the bootloader is a bit strange ... 01:16 <*> Quits ->jbrown [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:23 < marvin24> zombah-home: you could try to move to a threaded irq 01:23 < marvin24> and change the priority of the kernel thread 01:24 < zombah-home> marvin24: sure, how? 01:26 < marvin24> reading further on, maybe not so a good idea 01:26 < marvin24> zombah-home: forget it 01:27 < marvin24> I think the best would be to use the i2c fifo 01:27 < marvin24> but I have no idea how to use it ;-) 01:27 < zombah-home> 8) 01:29 < marvin24> we don't really know why this happens 01:29 < marvin24> I can only guess that we are too slow 01:33 < zombah-home> just found that i changed suspend mode to LP1, gonna recheck with usual LP0 01:43 < marvin24> mmh, maybe we are overclocking the i2c bus 01:44 < marvin24> zombah-home: can you change the i2c3 clock 640000 in board-paz00.c and see if it changes something? 01:44 < zombah-home> i tried turning all i2c debug in kernel, but system become much less responsive and didnt collected much 01:45 < zombah-home> marvin24: sure will try it now, also want to ask why only i2c3 there we dont have other like i2c1,2 etc? 01:45 < marvin24> we have, but they are configured somewhere else 01:46 < marvin24> (a few lines above) 01:48 < zombah-home> and what difference between pll_p and clk_m? some other boards have clk_m there 01:51 < marvin24> yes, I forgot the reason 01:51 < marvin24> I need to boot into android to check 01:51 < zombah-home> cant find other i2c clocks, they have different names? 01:51 < marvin24> you don't need to set clocks there normally 01:51 < marvin24> the drivers are doing it 01:52 < marvin24> this is why you cannot find them ;-) 01:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->vanger [~chatzilla@195.138.84.8] 01:52 < zombah-home> aah now i got 01:52 < marvin24> only if the driver doesn't get it or the clock needs to run all the time you should list it there 01:53 < marvin24> looking at all this stuff again, it looks somehow wrong to me though 01:54 < marvin24> need to dig through it tomorrow again 01:59 <*> Quits ->vanger [~chatzilla@195.138.84.8] [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 03:16 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->phh_ [~quassel@137.194.15.151] 03:39 <*> Quits ->phh [~quassel@137.194.15.151] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43 <*> Quits ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 08:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->torwag_home [~user@softbank126064095045.bbtec.net] 08:10 < torwag_home> Hey guys, just blowed the dust from my ac100 after again weeks of not using it... are there any new stuff? 08:11 < torwag_home> Guess the only think I miss now is the usage of nvidia drivers for an accelerated video mode. 08:13 < torwag_home> and recently (most likely after some updates) I notice a flickering after opening a new window under awesome wm. Not sure how or if this is related to ac100 stuff but it was not there before... in general it seems to me the vesa driver performance went worse compared to before. Is this known or just a PEBKAC 08:14 < PaulFertser> torwag_home: ac100 can't use the vesa driver at all :) 08:16 < PaulFertser> torwag_home: i know some guys are running 3.1 + nvidia armhf drivers and that it's stable "enough" though "some" image corruption happens. 08:16 < PaulFertser> You'll have to wait for those who can actually tolerate that proprietary crap to tell you more ;) 08:17 < torwag_home> PaulFertser: Hi, I guess I trapped into this more then once already 08:17 < torwag_home> PaulFertser: ok I mean the whatever native fb driver 08:18 < torwag_home> I also noticed rendering artefacts in the webbrowser 08:18 < PaulFertser> Are you sure you're using fbdev X.org driver and not the nvidia's? 08:19 < torwag_home> rather sure 08:19 < PaulFertser> Because with plain framebuffer it's rather hard to explain where any artifacts might come from. 08:20 < torwag_home> I use conkeror as webbrowser, if I scroll up and down... text sometimes seem not to move accordingly however marking text with the mouse, suddenly the text change 08:21 < torwag_home> I still use 3.0.19 08:21 < PaulFertser> Probably that's text rendering artifacts unrelated to the driver. 08:21 < PaulFertser> I think i've seen something like that in Mozilla on some websites on PC too. 08:22 < torwag_home> guess now the main branch is 3.1, maybe I should go upgrade to 3.1 to get all the goodies 08:22 < torwag_home> yep I know this from PC but not as frequent as it happens now on the ac100 08:23 < torwag_home> if I remember correctly last time 3.1 was not an option for me because there was a bug with text-console log-in 08:23 < torwag_home> is this solved now? 08:25 < PaulFertser> I think i've heard that it was but i'm not sure. TBH, i'm disappointed by that branch, it looks like nvidia left too much crap in there without any compelling reason :/ 08:25 < torwag_home> compelling or compiling reason ;) 08:27 < torwag_home> Well I have all and everything working now. It could use still a little less power and I would be glad to get more graphics power since it really lags sometimes, even for 'normal' usage. Guess both could be achived by a better graphic support 08:28 < PaulFertser> Have you tried running arm powertop btw? 08:29 < torwag_home> ohhh I heard of it but did not test it ... was on my list 08:29 < torwag_home> thanks for reminding me 08:29 < torwag_home> does it work ok? 08:30 < PaulFertser> This one worked fine for me: https://gitorious.org/powertop-for-arm 08:34 < torwag_home> PaulFertser: just tested powertop from the arch repros for arm.... seems to work 08:35 < torwag_home> are those 2 different projects or does powertop now work under ARM an x86 08:40 < PaulFertser> torwag_home: does the version you tried now have an interactive ncurses interface where you can move between different "panes"? 08:44 < torwag_home> yep its powertop2 08:45 < torwag_home> PaulFertser: the only think I notice is the fact that it does not show me the power usage under the ac100 08:45 < torwag_home> independent of the power status 08:45 < torwag_home> under x86 you get now a nice list how much power each process consumes 08:46 < PaulFertser> torwag_home: i do not remember all the panes but for me the most important was the one that listed the reasons for wake-ups that made CPU not switch to the 0MHz mode. 08:49 < torwag_home> PaulFertser: sure 08:53 < PaulFertser> And then i remember myself reading lots of the related kernel code, looking at ftrace logs etc. But i do not remember what exactly i suspected was wrong and what conclusion i came to. 08:58 < torwag_home> PaulFertser: Sound like you had a fun evening reading code, hacking your system and the next morning you notice your system acts strange but now idea anymore what you did that night ;) 08:58 < torwag_home> now->no 08:59 < torwag_home> PaulFertser: I forgot the beer part... reading code, hacking the system and having some beer 09:02 < PaulFertser> torwag_home: :) 09:02 < PaulFertser> But in fact it wasn't like that. 09:07 < torwag_home> well sometimes beer can be simply replaced by missing sleep... I had some sessions where I finally gave up very late that night, got up in next morning and was very puzzeld to see how stupid I was that night before ;) 09:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@87.228.2.110] 09:16 < PaulFertser> Hehe, indeed. 11:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->jbrown [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] 12:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-23-84.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] 12:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopofff [Miranda@ppp91-77-23-84.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] 12:10 <*> Quits ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-23-84.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:12 <*> Quits ->clopofff [Miranda@ppp91-77-23-84.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-23-84.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] 12:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 12:27 < marvin24> zombah-home: the clock config is all wrong :-( 12:28 < zombah-home> marvin24: ohh 12:29 < marvin24> did you applied the change from yesterday? 12:29 < zombah-home> marvin24: you mean downclocking to 640000 i2c3? 12:29 < marvin24> yes 12:30 < zombah-home> marvin24: yes tried only couple times, noticed strange thing nvec got errors in log right in time of work, like five minutes work then error and goodbye 12:31 < zombah-home> marvin24: but that was with combination with latest nvec ps2 suspend/resume patch 12:31 < marvin24> shouldn't matter if you don't suspend/resume ... 12:31 < zombah-home> marvin24: but it matter somehow 12:32 < zombah-home> marvin24: aah i also applied readback patch maybe it was reason 12:32 < zombah-home> marvin24: i gonna make more extensive tests today, tommorow it was to late for that 12:33 < zombah-home> marvin24: also applied defconfig changes with clocks init and csite, maybe too much changes for single test 12:34 < marvin24> they also shouldn't matter 12:34 < zombah-home> we'll be back in couple hours, will check again 12:34 < marvin24> I think you tested "readback" already with no success 13:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 13:56 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 13:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 14:00 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39 <*> Quits ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-23-84.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Quit: clopoff] 16:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sev007 [5e8ff67c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.143.246.124] 16:04 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-198-25.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:06 < sev007> Hello, i have a problem with connecting external optical usb drive to ac100, im running 11.10 and it isnt mounting, though it sounds working, visible in lsusb and dmesg when connected, any suggestions? 16:07 < PaulFertser> sev007: how doesn't it mount? 16:07 < sev007> automaticly 16:09 < PaulFertser> sev007: what if you try it manually? 16:10 < sev007> i dont really know fs type of plug and play usb drives 16:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-118-50.adsl.inetia.pl] 16:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy_ [~quassel@81.174.7.65] 16:13 < PaulFertser> sev007: if by optical drive you mean a cd or dvd-rom then it's either iso9660 or udf 16:13 <*> Quits ->Vandroy [~quassel@81-174-51-145.dynamic.ngi.it] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:14 < sev007> PaulFertser: thank you 16:39 < sev007> does anyone have iso9660 and udf modules for 3.0.19? 16:45 < PaulFertser> sev007: hm, do you mean the ubuntu packages missing those? 16:45 < sev007> yepp 16:48 < PaulFertser> ogra_: ^^ 16:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 17:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Scratch [5ad5cce2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.213.204.226] 17:19 <*> Quits ->Scratch [5ad5cce2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.213.204.226] [Quit: Page closed] 17:20 < zombah-home> marvin24: i ran tests with i2c3 downclocked, result same first suspend ok, when wakeup, second try oops in tegra_nvec_suspend 17:20 < marvin24> zombah-home: can you try my latest branch? 17:21 < marvin24> rel-15r7-ac100 17:21 < marvin24> this one has a better fix for the clock 17:21 < zombah-home> marvin24: will try, is nv-tergra android based? 17:21 < marvin24> android based 17:22 < marvin24> l4t-r15-ac100 is for l4t 17:22 marvin24 hates to do double work 17:26 < zombah-home> can we merge my patches for machine id and gpu ram into it? this will simplify future testing 17:26 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 17:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 17:29 < zombah-home> i can make new fork with this branch, then apply them and ask for merge back request? 17:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 17:34 < marvin24> zombah-home: at least this way I could see the patches 17:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->qpx [~qpx@141.45.160.111] 17:46 < qpx> hi, do you know which kernel version will be used with ubuntu 12.10? 17:53 < marvin24> for ac100, likely 3.1 17:53 < marvin24> other archs use 3.5 I think 18:00 < qpx> yeah, ac100, of course :> 18:38 <*> Quits ->sev007 [5e8ff67c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.143.246.124] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] 18:58 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 19:35 < zombah-home> marvin24: i made a merge request, but dunno is it sent or not, gitorious answered rather strange to me 19:40 < zombah-home> it seems request failed as i dont see it in merge requests 20:01 < zombah-home> always answering the git object too large, strange 20:26 <*> Quits ->PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] 20:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B923.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:35 < mase76> n anybody ca 20:35 < mase76> ups 20:35 < mase76> can anybody post the bootimg.cfg for a 3.1 kernel? 20:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.133.71] 20:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@62.122.240.182] 20:46 < rpiloose> mase76: yes, here for an AC100-114 and root on mmcblk1p1: mem=512M@0M tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800 console=tty0 console=ttyGS0,115200n8 zcache verbose debug 20:46 < rpiloose> mase76: hi, *first 20:46 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@62.122.240.182] [Client Quit] 20:57 < mase76> should the ramdiskaddr be 0x11000000 or 0x12000000? 20:57 < rpiloose> mase76: mine: ramdiskaddr = 0x11000000 20:58 < rpiloose> mase76: do you want to check it with SOSBoot ? 20:58 < mase76> yes 20:58 < mase76> i tried some combinations, but i always end up in a kernel panic. 20:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 21:00 < mase76> you tegrapart also does not work for me. however i have a 10k. 21:03 < stuw_> mase76, try sosboot 21:04 < stuw_> mase76, you can try to drop tegrapart at all to use nvtegra partitioning. 21:04 < rpiloose> mase76: change your tegrapart according to your model... where is the corresponding page in the wiki...? 21:05 < stuw_> mase76, btw, what is panic message about? 21:06 < rpiloose> mase76: amazing doing a abootimg -x /dev/mmcblk0p1 provide the same ramdiskaddr value... let's me transfert through a usb key... 21:09 < mase76> or could the fstab entry /dev/mmcblk0p7 to / be wrong? 21:11 < mase76> it all worked before. but i forgot to save my bootimg.cfg before i reinstalled debian. 21:12 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.133.71] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:12 < mase76> root should be mmcblk1p1 instead of mmcblk0p7? 21:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.133.71] 21:16 < mase76> the panic message is something about not syncing attempted to kill init 21:17 < rpiloose> mase76: for the bootloader 2.1: bootimg.cfg + cmdline + atags --> http://pastebin.com/HXxgRJc4 21:18 < marvin24> mase76, rpiloose: console=tty1 !!! 21:18 < rpiloose> mase76: for Ubuntu on SDCard's root=/dev/mmcblk1p1 21:18 < rpiloose> mase76: on eMMC --> root=/dev/mmcblk0p7 21:19 < mase76> and tegraboot=sdmmc also necessary? 21:20 < marvin24> zombah-home: I never understood what this early-suspend stuff is for 21:20 < marvin24> mase76: no 21:20 < marvin24> zombah-home: also, why do you change the machine id string ? 21:21 < zombah-home> marvin24: it is suspend companion in android, wakelock subsystem 21:21 < mase76> and after changing bootimg.cfg, only update-initramfs -u? 21:21 < marvin24> zombah-home: what does it fix? 21:21 < marvin24> mase76: maybe also add the kernel to the cmdline, sometimes only updating the cmdline didn't work 21:21 < rpiloose> mase76: Kernel command line by AC100 model (http://ac100.grandou.net/commandline) 21:21 < zombah-home> marvin24: gives panel to support earlysuspend and latewakeup 21:22 < marvin24> yeah, but do you see any change in "reality"? 21:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@141.70.80.2] 21:23 < zombah-home> marvin24: machine id is changed because original one is not parsed by android init, it use it for config files like init..rc, with old format of machine id it is not readable 21:23 < rpiloose> mase76: for AC100-10K: tegrapart=recovery:700:a00:800,boot:1100:1000:800,mbr:2100:200:800,system:2300:25800:800,cache:27b00:32000:800,misc:59b00:400:800,userdata:5a000:9a600:800` 21:24 < rpiloose> mase76: short version for AC100-10K: tegrapart=recovery:700:a00:800,boot:1100:1000:800,mbr:2100:200:800 21:24 < marvin24> zombah-home: ah, you mean because of the spaces? 21:24 < zombah-home> marvin24: yes because of space and diferrent registers 21:24 < marvin24> registers? 21:25 < zombah-home> lower case/upper case 21:25 < marvin24> ok 21:26 < rpiloose> mase76: I don't really know because I do it directly by: abootimg -i /dev/mmcblk0p2 -f bootimg.cfg 21:27 < rpiloose> mase76: sorry, * abootimg -u /dev/mmcblk0p2 -f bootimg.cfg 21:30 < mase76> still not working 21:31 < rpiloose> mase76: ok, which version of Ubuntu do you use? 21:32 < mase76> not ubuntu 21:32 < rpiloose> mase76: no trouble, debian? gentoo? archlinux arm? 21:32 < mase76> it worked in the past. 21:33 < rpiloose> mase76: do you have a backup of part 6 (/dev/mmcblk0p2)? 21:34 < mase76> the ubuntu kernel, that was left after i installed debian worked. debian booted with it. 21:35 < mase76> i had precise installed before. 21:36 < marvin24> zombah-home: I cherry-pcked your changes 21:36 < rpiloose> mase76: ok, the kernel 3.1 was compile after doing a make paz00_defconfig, isn't it? 21:36 < rpiloose> *compiled 21:37 < rpiloose> mase76: is your rootfs ext4? 21:38 < mase76> yes, ext4. and the kernel package is the same as i used in my debian installation before. 21:39 < rpiloose> mase76: you always use armhf under precise and debian? 21:39 < mase76> yes 21:41 < rpiloose> mase76: again, may you have a backup of your previous part 6 (I though before you don't answer about this point)? 21:41 < rpiloose> *no 21:43 < mase76> no, i don't have. 21:45 < rpiloose> mase76: ok, I am reading this: http://ac100.grandou.net/debian_uboot 21:45 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51 < rpiloose> mase76: IMHO, your initrd.img is probably inapropriate in this case, how do you access your part 6 (/dev/mmcblk0p2) (putusb, nvflash or SOSBOOT)? 21:54 < mase76> sosboot 21:55 < rpiloose> mase76: good, before to go further, may you do this: mount -t tmpfs none /tmp ; cd /tmp ; dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p2 of=backup-part6-20120729.img? 21:56 < rpiloose> mase76: and after save it on a precious usb key? I need to think further, put you can do mount -o ro /dev/mmcblk1p1 /root and Ctrl-D to exit ... ! :-) 21:57 < rpiloose> mase76: BUT BEFORE save you part 6 elsewhere on usb key or external usb HD, please! 21:58 < mase76> saved it on sdcard 22:00 < rpiloose> mase76: well, good reflexe! Just mount your SDCard on /root not elsewhere otherwise, after some though I am not sure that SOSBOOT will continue the boot process when trying exiting from your current shell 22:03 < zombah-home> marvin24: thanks, gonna test rel-15r7 branch now 22:03 < mase76> sdcard mounted on /root 22:07 < rpiloose> mase76: wait, you need an another initrd.img... I am looking back of a marvin24's previous statement: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3198404/ac100/6_LNX_raw.img <-- what's inside ...? 22:08 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.133.71] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:11 < zombah-home> marvin24: seems rel-15r7 have some serious changes versus 3.1-exp, it oops with enable_store on boot for me 22:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.133.71] 22:14 < rpiloose> mase76: wrong, it was from stuw_ and it's about a complete filesystem... :-/ 22:21 < rpiloose> mase76: umount /root and download my initrd.img here http://dl.free.fr/rQmu7hUce, and flash it with abootimg -u /dev/mmcblk0p2 -r initrd.img 22:22 < rpiloose> mase76: after, reboot, you will get a shell prompt after a failed to mount root filesystem, then mount it: 22:22 < rpiloose> mase76: mount -o ro /dev/mmcblk1p1 /root 22:22 < rpiloose> mase76: and finally, Ctrl-D or exit 22:24 < rpiloose> mase76: I assume you keep your cmdline for 3.1 kernel and this kernel? 22:24 < rpiloose> mase76: after all, let's know what happen with your boot process... 22:30 < mase76> what a keymap is that??? 22:33 <*> Quits ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@141.70.80.2] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:33 < mase76> ok, got it. 22:33 < rpiloose> mase76: sorry French, do ... 22:33 < mase76> /sbin/init was not found 22:34 < rpiloose> mase76: under debian root filesystem use what in place of init and where? 22:35 < mase76> /sbin/init 22:36 < rpiloose> mase76: is it a symlink? 22:36 < mase76> no 22:39 < rpiloose> mase76: probably wrong initrd for you... do you have a linux filesystem on /dev/mmcblk0p7? 22:39 < mase76> yes 22:39 < rpiloose> mase76: which distribution? 22:39 < mase76> debian wheezy 22:40 < rpiloose> mase76: try to boot it (mount -o ro /dev/mmcblk0p7 /root)! 22:41 < rpiloose> mase76: /sbin/init was not found <-- no further information? 22:45 < rpiloose> mase76: do you have a file /boot/initrd.img on mmcblk1p1 or mmcblk0p7? 22:45 < mase76> on mmcblk0p7 22:45 < rpiloose> mase76: oh, interesting... 22:46 < rpiloose> mase76: what is it's size in MB or KB? 22:47 < mase76> i cannot mount /dev/mmcblk0p7 within this shell. no such file. 22:47 < mase76> in /dev i find mmcblk0boot0, mmcblk0boot1, mmcblk0boot1p1 and mmcblk0boot1p2. 22:49 < rpiloose> mase76: about the french keyboard, I do loadkmap < /etc/i18n/fr_latin1.kmap in the init script in initrd, perhaps you have such file in one of your rootfs... 22:49 < mase76> about 1.2MB 22:52 < rpiloose> mase76: what's answer cat /proc/partitions 22:52 < rpiloose> ? 22:53 < mase76> the same as i wrote above 22:54 < rpiloose> mase76: 1.2MB, humm, otherwise your 3.1 kernel don't see the eMMC... :-( 22:56 < rpiloose> mase76: on mmcblk1p1, do you have a previous kernel like /boot/zImage* ? 22:56 < mase76> 1203515 bytes 22:58 < rpiloose> mase76: against your 1.2MB initrd, try to flash it back: abootimg -u /dev/mmcblk0p2 -r /root/boot/initrd.img and + -k /root/boot/zImage-??? 22:59 < rpiloose> mase76: if you have an old kernel for -k option 23:00 < mase76> i updated my initrd with the most option, instead of dep. now it boots somewhat more. i get a panic, because failed to execute /init 23:01 < rpiloose> mase76: still with 3.1 kernel? 23:01 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02 < mase76> yes 23:02 < rpiloose> mase76: the ubuntu's one? 23:03 < mase76> no, the debian one. but this kernel worked. 23:03 < mase76> should i use most or dep? 23:03 < rpiloose> mase76: yes, with a rebuild bootimg.cfg and another initrd.img... :-/ 23:04 < rpiloose> mase76: what's most or dep? sorry but debian is not a well known world for me... 23:05 < mase76> the modules integrated in the initrd. ubuntu uses most. 23:06 < rpiloose> mase76: ah ok, then dep because you use a plain simpkle ext4 FS... 23:09 < rpiloose> mase76: and the size of part 6 is limited... 23:11 < mase76> no luck 23:12 < rpiloose> mase76: in your cmdline do you use the short or the long version for tegrapart? 23:12 < mase76> the short 23:14 < rpiloose> mase76: and in your /boot, except initrd, do you have a bootimg.cfg? 23:15 < mase76> yes 23:15 < mase76> i did not chage the cmdline in the kernel config. i use bootimg.cfg. 23:19 < rpiloose> mase76: and do you have previous version of bootimg.cfg? 23:20 < mase76> no, that is the problem. 23:20 < mase76> i had the same problems some time ago 23:20 < mase76> don't remember, how i solved it. 23:22 < rpiloose> mase76: and this time if you change cmdline with root=/dev/mmcblk0p7, is your wheezy bootable? 23:23 < mase76> i still have this in my cmdline. 23:24 < mase76> but without it, it is the same. 23:24 < rpiloose> mase76: and your boot sequebce crashed on mmcblk1p1 or mmcblk0p7? 23:25 < rpiloose> *sequence 23:25 < mase76> on mmcblk0p7 23:25 < mase76> when i build initrd with most, it fails on a no found /init. if i build with dep, it fails somewhere else. 23:27 < marvin24> zombah-home: there shouldn't be too much changes 23:27 < marvin24> I only disabled udc support 23:27 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@87.228.2.110] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:27 < marvin24> because it conflicts with uboot 23:28 < rpiloose> mase76: then ext4 is not bulting in the kernel debian, and other things related to tegra hw, there is a possibility to force load some modules at initrd level, isn't? 23:29 < zombah-home> marvin24: ill try to dig what causing it, because i remember already encountered oops on this function 23:29 < rpiloose> mase76: in the past may you have specify a mandatory module to be loaded early... 23:34 < mase76> i have a 3.0 kernel package available. that will be my last try for today... 23:35 < rpiloose> mase76: ok, dont forget to amend back mem= + console= in cmdline. 23:35 < mase76> yes 23:39 < mase76> also no boot. 23:39 < mase76> i will finish for today and retry tomorrow. thanx a lot for your help! 23:41 <*> Quits ->brutal [~Brutal@188.134.37.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42 < rpiloose> mase76: weird, in the past have you made a such custom initrd which explain that? May you show us your real cmdline? 23:44 < mase76> i did nothing different. installed the kernel-package, initrd was generated, kernel and initrd flashed, ready to go. 23:47 < rpiloose> mase76: ah, ok thx, goodnight and I hope tomorow you will solve it again, and if yes do: dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p2 of=/tmp/backup-part6-20120729.img and save it! 23:48 < mase76> thank you 23:48 < mase76> good night! 23:49 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B923.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] --- Day changed Mon Jul 30 2012 00:08 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.133.71] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.133.71] 00:15 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.133.71] [] 00:17 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] [Quit: leaving] 01:27 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->turbo_ac100 [~turbo@port-92-206-126-142.dynamic.qsc.de] 01:44 < turbo_ac100> Hey guys! I just saw that there are 3.1 Kernel builds for Quantal allready available. Will they be backported to Precise (Precise beeing 3.2 and all)? 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ubuntu initrd has also such a size. 20:04 < mase76> what is the limit of mmcblk0p2? 20:05 < marvin24> mase76: the bootloader can't load initrd > 2 MB 20:05 < marvin24> it just corrupts them 20:05 < marvin24> longpig: no, console=tty1 still needed 20:05 < mase76> modules=dep always worked for me before. 20:06 < marvin24> depends on your kernel config 20:06 < marvin24> initrd shouldn't need any modules at all 20:07 < mase76> paz00_defconfig with some more modules enabled. 20:07 < marvin24> sometimes the distro copys some modules for e.g. cryptroot 20:07 < marvin24> which blows up the initrd 20:10 < mase76> one more question: debian is on flash-kernel-3.1, ubuntu seems to be on 3.0rc4. the output of 3.1 is only "installing initrd... ". 3.0rc1, which i used before (comes from juliank's repo), shows flashing kernel and initrd.... 20:10 < mase76> i amnot sure, if 3.1 does the right. 20:11 < marvin24> mase76: better ask ogra_ 20:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:12 < mase76> and when removing a kernel, i always get an error in the postrm script: warn "Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .\n"; 20:12 < mase76> system ("run-parts --verbose --exit-on-error --arg=$version " 20:12 < mase76> also with the ubuntu kernel. 20:13 < mase76> i have to remove these lines before removing a kernel. 20:14 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] [] 20:15 < mase76> btw: the initrd in the precise tarball has 2.1mb. 20:15 < marvin24> mib or mb? 20:16 <*> Quits ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16 < marvin24> 2 MiB = 2097152 byte 20:16 < mase76> 2195955 bytes 20:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] 20:17 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: Stay Unix] 20:18 < mase76> i will rebuild l4t-r15 and see, how it works. 20:18 ogra_ wasnt aware debian switched to something newer than ~rc4 20:19 < ogra_> i guess i'll have to merge it for quantal 20:19 < mase76> 3.1 in testing, and 3.2 in unstable. 20:19 < ogra_> (after i removed the hacks to it that break everything but omap currently) 20:19 < ogra_> we already have a ton of changes on top of the debian one 20:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 20:20 < mase76> but the message installing... instead of flashing... is correct? 20:20 < ogra_> cant tell from the top of my head and i dont have quantal around atm 20:20 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-joyggrwajjiftmfa] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:20 < ogra_> oh, wait, i should ... one sec 20:21 < ogra_> looking at the source there are still a lot of printf's 20:21 < ogra_> printf "Generating kernel u-boot image... " >&2 20:21 < ogra_> printf "Generating initramfs u-boot image... " >&2 20:22 < ogra_> oh, thats indeed for u-boot 20:22 < ogra_> printf "Flashing kernel and initramfs to $device... " >&2 20:22 < ogra_> from the android_flash() function in rc4 20:22 < mase76> which version? 20:23 < mase76> ah, ok 20:23 < ogra_> the one currently in ubuntu 20:25 < mase76> 3.1 also has this function. i wonder, why i don't see the correct mesage on my system. 20:28 < mase76> ah, the installing message is only an echo. the flash android stuff should be called after. 20:52 < juliank> Right, flash-kernel in Debian is broken on the ac100. 20:52 < ogra_> it works on ubuntu, i need to send you my patches i suppose 20:53 < ogra_> flash-kernel-installer needs to create a proper cmdline entry ... 20:53 < ogra_> we do that from ac100-tarball-installer currently but i'd like to switch that over to f-k-i 20:54 < juliank> ogra_: Might be the bug fixed in Ubuntu release 3.0~rc.4ubuntu7 (make sure the call to abootimg -i does not make the script fail) 20:54 < ogra_> though the general kernel/initrd flashing should still work 20:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 20:54 < ogra_> oh, yeah, that one as well 20:55 < ogra_> but you will also need an initial cmdline to hand over tegrapart 20:56 < ogra_> else the boot partitions wont be visible and you cant write to them 20:56 < juliank> Well, the user kind of has to set command line using abootimg -u on the boot partition currently. 20:56 < ogra_> yeah, not what we like in ubuntu :) 20:57 < ogra_> f-k-i should do that and also generate the proper tegrapart line based on manfid of the MMC 20:57 < juliank> It's the optimal solution, since there is no reason to set this on every update. The only thing we need to change is rootfs, and we can do this via initramfs in Debian. 20:57 < juliank> The rest of the command-line will be correct already, as you have already booted into the system. 20:58 < juliank> (In order to boot into the system and be able to flash, you need to have the correct commandline settings in the boot paritition) 20:58 < ogra_> we dont set it on any updates 20:58 < ogra_> only from d-i with flash-kernel-installer when initially setting up the bootloader during installation 20:59 < ogra_> but yes, indeed you wil have booted from a bootimg file already 21:00 < juliank> Right, and for Debian that works optimally, as we don't update the command line in the boot partition at all (and do root= stuff in initramfs). In Ubuntu, you might need to do this differently, no idea. 21:00 < ogra_> we're about to revert that initrd crap yes 21:01 < ogra_> forcing users into initrd usage isnt really proper 21:01 < ogra_> not that it changes a thing for the ac100, but its a grenerally broken design of the new f-k 21:01 < juliank> I said back then that I would like to have some flash-kernel.conf file or similar in /etc where you can specify a command-line. But I don't know anymore what lool and zumbi think about that. 21:04 < ogra_> working on that here 21:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 21:04 < ogra_> i'll do pathes in ubuntu to do exactly that since we hit a bunch of cases where update-initramfs gets run in d-i and f-k isnt configured yet 21:05 < ogra_> so i want an /etc/default/flash-kernel file ... and have f-k only execute once that exists 21:05 < ogra_> f-k-i would put that file in place 21:06 < ogra_> not sure what would be in it for ac100 though ... for omap it will carry the cmdline from which preEnv.txt will be generated 21:06 < ogra_> (we're also dropping boot.scr in ubuntu) 21:07 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-93-154.adsl.inetia.pl] [Quit: .] 21:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-93-154.adsl.inetia.pl] 21:22 < juliank> ogra_: The only thing in there would be the cmdline to write to the boot partition (possibly excluding root=, and deriving that at run-time instead) 21:23 < ogra_> all that runtime root= creap that makes your initrd a hardcoded thing will go in ubuntu 21:24 < ogra_> so we actually want the cmdline with root= in some input file ... but for ac100 thats rather cosmetic since nothing touches the bootloader config anymore 21:24 < ogra_> on panda and beagleboard they will actually re-generate the config on flash-kernel runs 21:24 < juliank> ogra_: Yes, but detecting the root= at run-time and then appending it to the cmdline setting if the cmdline setting does not contain root= seems a sensible thing to do. 21:25 < ogra_> oh, yes, indeed 21:25 < ogra_> but that should only happen once from flash-kernel-installer.udeb 21:25 < ogra_> its not like your root= changes all the time :) 21:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 21:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 21:28 < juliank> Well, depends on whether you use uuids or labels for root. 21:29 < juliank> The UUIDs are relatively stable, but labels can theoretically change more often. 21:29 < ogra_> juliank, ubuntu doesnt use labels :) 21:29 < ogra_> we use UUIDs since the first release 21:31 < juliank> I even use UUIDs myself for root= on my larger laptop apparently (probably grub automatically configuring this). 21:31 < juliank> I configured my /etc/fstab to use LABEL= though, that makes it much easier to read. 21:31 < juliank> and easier to migrate to a new hard disk. 21:32 < juliank> This system being on the third one now IIRC 21:33 < juliank> and for the AC100, I basically use LABEL everywhere, to be able to easily switch between armel and armhf versions and different sd cards, without having to reflash the kernel. 21:33 < ogra_> sure, and you can do the same in ubuntu 21:34 < ogra_> but all automated setup tools will generate UUID based configs 21:35 < juliank> Debian probably does the same on the systems we use d-i for, but I did not look at any newly installed system recently. 21:36 < juliank> (we can't really have d-i running on the AC100 in Debian without having all kernel support upstream) 21:37 < juliank> That probably also made the d-i announcement of Toshiba AC100 support a bit premature, as we only have (currently broken) ac100 support in flash-kernel, not elsewhere (AFAIK) 21:38 < ogra_> yeah, same issue with ubuntu 21:38 < ogra_> not that we need the kernel stuff in mainline ... but the kernel package needs to live in main for d-i 21:38 < ogra_> which the ac100 kernel will never do 21:39 < marvin24> he 21:39 < marvin24> even not with mainline support? 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I'll let you know about stable 12.04 11:12 < iz1glg> I found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra/+bug/1029343 11:16 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 11:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] 11:21 < iz1glg> marvin24: I've read on irc log that also mase76 had same problem 11:24 < longpig> marvin, its not just the console=tty1 problem on 3.1 for me, whenever i change console (or start x which does the same) the system freezes.. 11:26 < iz1glg> longpig: with 3.0 no problem ? 11:27 < longpig> 3.0 boots and works fine in the console, but xorg locks the whole box after a few minutes 11:28 < iz1glg> marvin24: on .xsession-errors I saw few fatal error related to xfce 11:31 < iz1glg> I had too and with tty1 i solved, are you sure you boot with tty1? see /var/log/messages 11:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-eqjfttulxutffiwk] 11:33 < longpig> yes, without tty1 it wont boot at all 11:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 11:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios_ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-175-22.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr] 11:40 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-112-164.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@nat.rnd.stcnet.ru] 12:26 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178136209.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 12:59 <*> p2-mate_ is now known as p2-mate 14:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] 14:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-fexxlpzqsjdjogmx] 16:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@93.211.148.51] 16:01 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 16:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 16:29 <*> Quits ->balrog-k2n [~balrog@211-goc-32.acn.waw.pl] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->balrog-k2n [~balrog@211-goc-32.acn.waw.pl] 16:38 <*> Quits ->bmw [~makc@109.201.87.191] [Quit: Leaving] 16:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 16:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178136209.adsl.alicedsl.de] 17:45 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@nat.rnd.stcnet.ru] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@213.222.238.28] 18:52 < mase76> i removed unity from precise and installed gnome3. i have installed the kernel from quantal and also the tegra driver. a ldd against libclutter shows, that it is linked against libegl and also some libnv... from the tegra driver package. but gnome-shell does only start in fallback. anybody knows, if gnome-shell could run with gles on tegra2? 18:53 < mase76> i must say, gnome3 is much faster on the ac100 than unity. 18:54 < ogra_> i think it will default to llvmpipe, not sure though, why dont you just try it ? 18:54 < ogra_> also did you try unity ? 18:54 < ogra_> unity-2d is surely slower 18:54 < ogra_> (since it does only use the framebuffer) 18:54 < mase76> you mean unity-3d? 18:54 < ogra_> yes, unity 18:55 < ogra_> (2d is dead beef anyway) 18:55 < mase76> gnome 3 uses the framebuffer, too at the moment. 18:55 < ogra_> i doubt it works due to display bugs with gles in the binary driver though 18:55 < mase76> but i don't like unity. 18:55 < ogra_> using compiz standalone is lots faster than metacity/unity-2d though 18:56 < ogra_> (at least if you use the gles port that works :) ) 18:57 < mase76> so why gnome-shell does not run is a libclutter problem with gles? 18:57 < iz1glg> mase76: Hi, did you solve your segfault with xorg with abi12 ? 18:58 < ogra_> most likely, yes 18:58 < ogra_> even though the gles implementation of the binary driver seems to miss a lot 18:58 < mase76> iz1glg: no, therefor i installed ubuntu. normally i have debian on all my machines. 18:58 < ogra_> so its hard to tell if its driver or clutter 18:59 < mase76> the info in gnome shows an unknown graphics driver. 18:59 < mase76> i could try to use gnome-shell and compiz together. 18:59 < iz1glg> thanks, so you are using 12.10 ? 19:00 < mase76> 12.04 19:00 < mase76> but with 12.10 kernel and driver package. i only had to replace tegra_drv.so with the abi11 one. 19:01 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@213.222.238.28] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 19:01 < iz1glg> but you left xorg 11 ? 19:01 < ogra_> 12.04 uses xorg 11 19:01 < ogra_> by default 19:02 < ogra_> and the driver doesnt work with 12 sadly 19:02 < mase76> yes, i kept xorg. 19:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 19:03 < mase76> ogra: really???? there is a tegra_drv.so for abi 12 in the nvidia tarball. if you say, that it does not work, there is no wonder, why i get the segfault on wheezy. 19:03 < ogra_> mase76, well, i cant get it to work on qunatal 19:04 < ogra_> makes xorg segfault ... 19:04 < ogra_> given sid and quantal use the same packages i doubt you will see it working in debian 19:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@213.222.238.28] 19:05 < iz1glg> I'm testing r15 that got abi12 but don't work well 19:05 < ogra_> doesnt work at all you mean 19:05 < mase76> oh man! and i searched and searched for the error. 19:05 < iz1glg> I'm on debian wheezy armel 19:05 < ogra_> blame nvidia ... i guess they compiled against a pre-release or so 19:06 < ogra_> i know for sure they are using the ubuntu toolchain for building armhf (which is identical with debians) 19:06 < ogra_> so it can only be an issue on their side 19:07 < mase76> and i think, r15 was the last release. they surely abandoned that all. 19:07 < iz1glg> hope they know too about this 19:07 < ogra_> r15 is the last one 19:08 < ogra_> iz1glg, i think marvin24 was in discussion with them on the nvidia forum beforwe it went down 19:08 < mase76> so never abi12. 19:08 < ogra_> sadly that was the only communication channel ... so the conversation stopped 19:08 < iz1glg> thanks ogra, good to know 19:09 < iz1glg> as workaroud I discover that withot xorg.conf Xorg is working 19:09 < iz1glg> without 19:09 < mase76> do you think, if i use compiz with gnome-fallback, i have more performance? 19:09 < ogra_> why would you use an xorg.conf ? 19:09 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-eqjfttulxutffiwk] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:10 < ogra_> at least the package installs all bits in a way that you dont need one 19:10 < iz1glg> in r15 nvidia provide xorg.conf 19:10 < iz1glg> also in r12 debian package 19:10 < ogra_> ah, we dont use that in the package 19:10 < ogra_> (ubuntu package) 19:10 < mase76> when not defined in the xorg.conf (or the place where ubuntu provides the config), fbdev will be used. 19:10 < iz1glg> but abi12 with xorg.conf crash 19:10 < iz1glg> without is working 19:11 < ogra_> right, you need a minimal xorgt.conf.d snippet that points to the tegra driver 19:11 < iz1glg> ofcourse without acceleration 19:11 < ogra_> (three lines or so) 19:11 < ogra_> else you will definitely not use the driver 19:11 < iz1glg> well I'm using tegra driver 19:11 < iz1glg> flashplayer work 19:11 < mase76> iz1glg: that is the same as no driver installed. 19:11 < ogra_> right 19:11 < ogra_> check your logs 19:12 < ogra_> it will tell you which driver you use ... 19:13 < mase76> what do you think about compiz and fallback? 19:13 < iz1glg> ah! 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When i use the Ubuntu preinstalled image and have a SD-card and an USB-stick inserted I can install to USB or SD right? Can I then also dualboot from mmcblk0? Or is SD/USB hardwired then? 16:14 < ogra_> hardwired 16:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 17:06 < turbo_ac100> ah ogra_ thanks 17:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-epxghfgsgecvepij] 17:18 <*> Quits ->turbo_ac100 [~turbo@port-92-206-205-154.dynamic.qsc.de] [Quit: Bye] 17:23 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-251-123.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:25 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@195.208.175.17] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-53-113.adsl.inetia.pl] 17:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@f053077232.adsl.alicedsl.de] 18:22 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-53-113.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-252-251.adsl.inetia.pl] 18:29 < e-ndy> marvin24, ping hi 18:30 < e-ndy> marvin24, any idea whether mmc/sd controller is on soc or somwhere outside? 18:30 < e-ndy> ogra_, ^^^ 18:35 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-bkjwyvvavqxmnznh] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:44 < marvin24> e-ndy: inside the tegra 18:46 < e-ndy> marvin24, so it is possible that it will work with sdxc cards? :) 18:46 < ogra_> what marvin24 said 18:46 < e-ndy> marvin24, as trimslice with the same chip works 18:46 < ogra_> iirc sdxc is backwards compatible 18:46 < ogra_> but not sure you will gain any speedup 18:47 < marvin24> no sdxc 18:47 < e-ndy> ogra_, marvin24: not needed speedup, needed capacity :) 18:48 < marvin24> e-ndy: I can check the TRM 18:49 < e-ndy> marvin24, ok 19:01 < marvin24> e-ndy: no note about max cap 19:02 < marvin24> the mmc has a 4-bit bus, the controller support sd card spec 2.0 19:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BAB0.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:45 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-epxghfgsgecvepij] [Quit: Verlassend] 19:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 19:47 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BAB0.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p549417E5.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 20:03 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Quit: Leaving.] 20:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:08 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Client Quit] 20:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:10 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] 20:27 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 20:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 20:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:59 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 21:00 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 21:00 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 21:01 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@f053077232.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 21:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@f053077232.adsl.alicedsl.de] 21:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 21:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:38 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48 <*> Quits ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] 22:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 23:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E43118.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:04 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:05 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:12 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] 23:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 23:48 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] --- Day changed Fri Aug 03 2012 00:18 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@f053077232.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 00:22 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:45 <*> Quits ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E43118.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber_ [~andreasf_@p54942BBB.dip.t-dialin.net] 05:19 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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e.g. at least ifconfig and/or dhclient so that I can bring the network up to apt-get things 22:20 < srwarren> I did also find ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz , but desktop might be a bit non-minimal for my usage, plus I don't want anything that's tied to specific HW; just plain Ubuntu 22:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 22:29 < ogra_> srwarren, well, take ubuntu-core armhf, unpack it on an x86 and use qemu-user-static to chroot and install packages in it, then just tar it up again 22:29 < ogra_> srwarren, http://omappedia.org/wiki/OMAP_Ubuntu_Core#Chroot.27ing_into_the_Ubuntu_Core_Filesystem 22:31 < srwarren> seriously? 22:31 < ogra_> core is just enough to run apt ... there is no image between core and desktop/server ... so if you want something inbetween you should start from core and just add package 22:32 < ogra_> its pretty trivial thanks to qemu-user-static 22:32 < ogra_> you can treat the arm chroot pretty much like any other chroot 22:32 < srwarren> would that be qemu-arm-static on Lucid? 22:34 < ogra_> yeah, could be, it changed its name several times (i developed it initially in ubuntu, when debian took it they changed the name to something more generic and made it work for other arches too) 22:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 22:36 < srwarren> Hmmm: qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped 22:37 < ogra_> hmm, ask in #linaro, i think they have backported some qemu packages to lucid that might work better 22:37 < ogra_> i assume you use a 64 bit machine over there 22:38 < ogra_> iirc in lucid there were issues with that 22:38 <*> Quits ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40 ogra_ would suggest to upgrade to something newer than lucid at some point though :) 22:40 < ogra_> especially in the arm bits ubuntu got a lot better later ... 22:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] 22:45 < srwarren> I assume -static means the binary is statically linked, so I could just extract say the Precise package and use the binary from there... 22:47 < srwarren> Indeed, that works 22:57 < ogra_> great 22:57 ogra_ never tested that ... all arm stuff got so much better after natty ... 23:06 < ogra_> srwarren, btw, do you usually build against the final release of xorg for a new abi ? using the r15 driver in 12.10 (with the xorg 12 abi) segfaults 23:07 < ogra_> smells a bit like the abi wasnt completely done or so when your binary was rolled 23:07 < srwarren> on our desktop (x86 GeForce) driver side, we're very good about building against the right thing. I don't know about our Tegra drivers; it's possible something slipped through the net. 23:08 < ogra_> would really be good to get that sorted before october since we ship the nvidia-tegra package in ubuntu now ;) 23:11 < ogra_> (and i dont really want to remove it from the archive because it fails) 23:11 < srwarren> I've sent an email internally asking for someone to confirm we're up-to-date 23:11 < ogra_> awesome, you rock ! 23:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Genocyde [~anonymous@sim31-1-88-176-211-81.fbx.proxad.net] 23:12 < ogra_> is it still you doing the hf builds ? 23:12 < srwarren> Well, I built the toolchain for it long ago, but I'm not that involved in the L4T drivers 23:12 < ogra_> ah 23:13 < ogra_> then i hope whoever builds it now actually updated to the new toolchain for 12.10 23:13 < srwarren> I mainly am meant to work on kernel upstreaming, also do some U-Boot stuff, and sometimes get pulled in to provide advice on driver packaging and related issues for L4T 23:13 <*> Quits ->Genocyde [~anonymous@sim31-1-88-176-211-81.fbx.proxad.net] [Quit: Genocyde] 23:13 < ogra_> since that could indeed also a cause for it segfaulting with the new xorg 23:13 < srwarren> No, we're still using the same toolchain. Changing toolchains takes more time that one might anticipate... 23:13 < ogra_> *also be 23:14 < ogra_> oh ? just use a qemu-arm-static chroot :) 23:15 < ogra_> the qemu-user-static package actually comaes with a qemu-debootstrap script that can create arm chroots on x86 in which you then can do your arm builds 23:15 < srwarren> I mean the process of getting the new toolchain files into our build system, producing builds with it, and going through the validation process. 23:15 < ogra_> oh, ok 23:15 < srwarren> We cross-compile 23:15 < ogra_> well, we usually update to a new toolchain with every new reelase in ubuntu (and debian) 23:16 < ogra_> even better, we have a cross toolchain as well, thats usually up to date 23:16 < srwarren> True, we always link against an old glibc, so if they maintain backwards compatibilty as they're supposed to, there should be no issue 23:16 < ogra_> (and matches the native one) 23:16 < ogra_> not sure thats the case on arm 23:16 < ogra_> especially since the linker paths were massively changed recently ( infinity could elaborate here) 23:17 < srwarren> Uggh, it better be or nobody could ever provide binary software 23:17 < ogra_> that happened across all distros btw 23:17 < srwarren> Yeah, we do override the dynamic linker path name for armhf on the gcc or ld command-line 23:17 < ogra_> for armhf that is 23:17 < srwarren> do you have a backtrace for the X crash? 23:17 < srwarren> Or Xorg logs? 23:18 < ogra_> Xorg.0.log is simply saying "segfault at 0x....." pretty unhelpful 23:18 < ogra_> i'm currentzly traveling, but can get you a proper backtrace next week 23:18 < srwarren> Nothing else at all? Anything before that might hint when it's happening. 23:18 < srwarren> Yes please, that'd be great 23:18 < ogra_> happens right at startup 23:19 < ogra_> the log is probably 20lines or so 23:19 < ogra_> above the segfault there is only standard stuff, no errors 23:20 < ogra_> (iirc ... i'm not near a 12.10 ac100 currently ... and need my 12.04 one for work ...) 23:20 < ogra_> next wee though :) 23:20 < ogra_> *week 23:31 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178139125.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 23:50 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:51 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] --- Day changed Sat Aug 04 2012 00:18 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-158-150.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-162-61.adsl.inetia.pl] 00:48 <*> Quits ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] 01:37 <*> Quits ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] 02:25 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 02:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 03:41 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:15 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-162-61.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87.205.148.91] 05:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 05:40 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 06:17 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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the one uploaded two days ago ? 17:48 < mase76> no, that one before 17:48 < ogra_> ah, well, jani is still tinkering, might be that he had it temporary enabled 17:48 < marvin24> mase76: btw, it would be really helpful to get a full backtrace of the xserver segfault 17:49 < ogra_> note that xorg abi13 was uploaded this week ... 17:49 < ogra_> i guess i need to do a no change upload of the driver to make it pick that up 17:49 < marvin24> ogra_: installed? 17:49 < mase76> ogra_ said, that the abi12 hf driver doesn't work at all. 17:50 < ogra_> right, it didnt work last time i tried, which wa a few weeks ago 17:50 < ogra_> *was 17:50 < mase76> and i told you the problem from the backtrace. 17:51 < ogra_> the BT isnt for me, srwarren can forward it to the tegra driver guys in nvidia 17:52 < mase76> #0 0x4067ca04 in txaComposite () from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/tegra_drv.so 17:52 < marvin24> mase76: that's a bit too short 17:52 < mase76> that is what the backtrace says. 17:53 < marvin24> mmh 17:54 < marvin24> btw, 3.1 kernel already has "Input: evdev - only signal polls on full packets", which should reduce cpu load 17:54 < mase76> i thought the whole time, that this is a problem on my machine only. i did not know, that that is a general abi12 problem. i thought, it runs on ubuntu with abi12. 17:58 < mase76> i don't think, that the nvidia guys fix this. they should either fix it, or release the tegra2 sources. 18:00 < mase76> but they aren't just able to keep their site online. 18:01 < mase76> sorry, i am frustrated about this. 18:05 < ogra_> well, there are the devs in nvidia and there are the lawyers and managers :) 18:05 < ogra_> i'm pretty soure the devs would release the world if they could 18:06 < ogra_> so dont blame them :) 18:06 < mase76> i don't blame the devs. 18:07 < mase76> a driver buildable like the geforce drivers would be enough. 18:08 < mase76> not this tegra_drv garbage. 18:13 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3971E.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:22 ogra_ doesnt get what you mean ... there is no difference 18:23 < ogra_> apart from x86 additionally having to build a kernel hook, which we luckily dont need in tegra ... effectively tegra is way better here 18:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3971E.dip.t-dialin.net] 18:28 < marvin24> mase76: nvidia knows about this bug and they are going to fix it of course - just takes time 18:31 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: Mind Over Soul] 18:32 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3971E.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33 < marvin24> ogra_: does quantal going to use xserver 1.3 ? 18:34 < marvin24> I guess that's ABI 13 18:34 < marvin24> I was wondering because the modesetting driver in quantal requires xserver 1.3 already 18:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3971E.dip.t-dialin.net] 18:41 < ogra_> i think so, yes 18:51 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-156-227.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:56 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3971E.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-115-209.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@f053077208.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3971E.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:49 < mase76> why isn't the autogroup scheduler enabled in the ubuntu kernel? 19:54 < marvin24> maybe because no one does exec "make -j64" on his ac100 19:55 < marvin24> (or any other embedded device) 19:56 < mase76> it should make the desktop more responsible. 19:56 < mase76> even on arm 19:56 < marvin24> I don't think so 19:56 < marvin24> it is better if you have *many* processes running 19:56 < marvin24> making your your console slow 19:57 < marvin24> but this will never happen 19:57 < mase76> but enabling it shouldn't do worse, shouldn't it? 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If you're tight on CPU consider using this. 19:15 < zombah-home> man says 19:15 < zombah-home> try this trivial 19:17 < mase76> ok, src-sinc-fastest is a bit better then speex-fload-1. but still heave crackling. 19:17 < mase76> about 50% cpu usage. 19:19 < mase76> trivial: the same as src-sinc-fastest 19:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E435BA.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:24 < zombah-home> dunno, maybe some debug in alsa or pulse can give clue 19:25 < zombah-home> in android i sometimes notice alsa i/o warnings, but they not affect sound quality until system very heavy loaded 19:25 <*> Quits ->pol [~quassel@vps.labedan.fr] [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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And I can flash kernels from Android and other systems, so I can also do this sort-of. 15:21 < fly-away> )) 15:26 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> it's probably cheaper to buy another ac100 for sub 100€ then to spend >2h to accomplish this 15:37 < ogra_> juliank, i have never seen a desktop mainboard without HDD LED socket ... 15:38 < ogra_> and all dekstop cases i ever used had an LDE to attach to it 15:38 < ogra_> *LED 15:38 < juliank> Ah, OK. Great. My last desktop was half a decade ago, so I don't know much about desktops anymore. 15:39 < ogra_> yeah, i just built my first one after 10 years :) 15:39 < ogra_> but all my laptops also have one ... apart from the ac100 and the classmate PCs i have 15:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> t200 stinkpad has activity-LEDs 15:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> like pretty much every "older" notebook does 15:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> it 15:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> it's just those new "design-centered" things that don't 15:42 < marvin24> ac100 also has if you configure the software route to the wifi led ;-) 15:43 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. i guess both continue the discussion from the mailing list 15:43 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> that started about exactly this 16:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-rfjzzudyevktcldw] 17:04 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] [Quit: Verlassend] 17:27 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] [] 17:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] 17:32 <*> Quits ->Vandroy_ [~quassel@81.174.51.128] [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 17:41 < srwarren> mase76, can you please post the entire Xorg log file, e.g. via pastebin, or email to me as an attachment. 17:41 < srwarren> To the best of my knowledge, we haven't received enough information on this issue to investigate it yet. 17:44 < ogra_> which remonds me i need to upload the driver to pick up the 13 abi 17:45 < ogra_> 12.10 changed to it over the weekend 17:46 < ogra_> it might behave better with that 17:47 < ogra_> srwarren, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132595/ 17:47 < ogra_> (i'm back howme and have my quantal ac100 around again) 17:48 < ogra_> it actually gets me to a desktop and the first click makes the driver crash 17:49 ogra_ wlaways finds it funny how Xorg.0.log refers to itself on errors 17:52 < srwarren> ogra, what desktop environment is this? 17:52 < ogra_> unity-2d (Qt) 17:53 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: balrog-k2n, fly-away, gg 17:53 < ogra_> but even just putting an .xsession in place that only starts xterm it breaks on first click 17:54 < ogra_> i'll test soon with the 13 X ABI 17:54 < srwarren> And it's X ABI 12 in Precise armhf right 17:54 < ogra_> (thats still with 12, the machine wasnt updated for two weeks) 17:54 < ogra_> right 17:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] 17:54 < ogra_> err no 17:54 < ogra_> quantal 17:54 < ogra_> 12.10 17:54 <*> Quits ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@2pbbogin.zmbh.uni-heidelberg.de] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:55 < ogra_> in precise we only have a 3.0 kernel ... i dont think the r15 driver will work 17:55 < srwarren> OK. 17:55 < srwarren> Does attaching gdb to X give any better backtrace? 17:55 < ogra_> (your r15beta did fine but had some display issues) 17:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@194.165.25.133] 17:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] 17:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->balrog-k2n [~balrog@211-goc-32.acn.waw.pl] 17:56 < ogra_> not with the current setup , i need to install the xorg debug stak ... 17:56 < ogra_> normal packages have all debug symbols stripped 17:56 < mase76> i attached gdb to x 17:56 < ogra_> needs some prep ... but i should have somethign more informative by tomoorrow 17:56 < mase76> but it was not very verbose. 17:57 < ogra_> yeah, no symbols, no info :) 17:57 < mase76> xorg symbols, but no nvidia symbols. 17:57 < ogra_> ah, you installed the dbgsym packages for xorg ? 17:57 < mase76> yes 17:58 < mase76> 0x4067ca04 in txaComposite () from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/tegra_drv.so 17:58 < mase76> that was the only info. 18:02 < mase76> can you guys try to play a 8000hz audiofile with pulseaudio enabled? 18:06 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-25-97.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 18:15 < srwarren> ogra, mase76, which version if libcairo do you have? 18:16 < mase76> 1.12.2 18:16 < ogra_> same here 18:16 < ogra_> 1.12.2-1ubuntu1 18:17 < srwarren> And in Precise where everything was working, was the version before 1.11? If so, we might have already fixed the bug internally 18:18 < mase76> seems only to be a problem with the abi12 driver. 18:18 < ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/cairo/ 18:18 < ogra_> 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu2 was in the precise release, 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3 is in precise-updates 18:19 < srwarren> OK, the libcairo update is /probably/ what triggered the problem then. 18:19 < mase76> i noticed in debian, that some applications start, others don't. tried this from a xterm session. 18:20 < ogra_> ah, lucky ou, i didnt get anything to start without crashing the session 18:20 < mase76> and the applications not working make xorg crash. 18:20 < mase76> openttd started, even audacity. 18:21 < mase76> you could be right with cairo. 18:21 < ogra_> audacity is wxgtk, most likely even useing gtk2 still 18:21 < ogra_> so that would use old cairo (if at all) 18:22 < mase76> but i cannot downgrade cairo on my system. i have gnome3 installed. it heavyly depends on it. 18:23 < mase76> and i think unity, too. 18:23 < ogra_> yes, since unity depends on many gnome3 bits :) 18:24 < ogra_> (90% of it is gnome3) 18:24 < mase76> unity uses clutter? 18:24 < ogra_> nope 18:24 < mase76> ah, that are the 10%. 18:24 < ogra_> it replaces mutter/clutter with compiz and gnome-shell with unity 18:25 < ogra_> where unity is just a bunch of compiz plugins 18:25 < ogra_> while gnome-shell is standalone clutter stuff, independednt from mutter (the WM) i think 18:26 ogra_ wishes his jetlag would let him type properly 18:27 < mase76> that are the only 2 remaining problems on my system. resampling with pulse and the tegra driver. 18:27 < mase76> i hope, nvidia will fix the driver problem. 18:28 < ogra_> well, let me re-upload the tegra driver so it picks up ABI 13 18:31 < mase76> quantal has 13? 18:32 < ogra_> since the weekend, yeah 18:32 < ogra_> or mid last week or so 18:32 < ogra_> i was travelling, not sure when it lanbded 18:33 < mase76> and what driver do you expect to run? 18:33 < ogra_> doesnt tegra have a 13 driver included ? 18:33 ogra_ hasnt looked yet 18:34 < mase76> no, only 12. 18:34 < ogra_> oh, crap 18:34 < ogra_> yeah, that wont work for quantal :( 18:35 < mase76> 11 was the last working one. 18:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 18:39 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-88-101.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:40 < mase76> i see, i could replace cairo. gnome-shell depends on >= 1.10.0. 18:41 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-zunmsyazmcjslovu] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:41 < mase76> if i find a repo snapshot, where an armhf version is present. 18:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-54-122.adsl.inetia.pl] 18:47 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:47 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] 18:49 < mase76> got a snapshot. downgrading... 18:50 < mase76> first i boot without the driver to see, if it works at all. 18:53 < ogra_> srwarren, any chance that we can get a driver update for ABI 13 before october ? 18:53 < mase76> yes, gnome works with the older cairo. now i install the tegra driver... 18:53 < ogra_> (else i need to remove the package from ubuntu ... we offer it by defautl right after installation) 18:54 < ogra_> (on all tegra systems that is, not only on ac100, itdepends on /proc/cpuinfo) 18:56 < srwarren> ogra_, I'll make our release planning team aware of the need for ABI 13. 18:56 ogra_ hugs srwarren 18:56 < ogra_> many thanks ! 18:57 < ogra_> i would really feel bad having to pull it out (we have plenty of tegra users, even though they roll unsupported images, but all use that driver) 18:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xan_IT [~xan@host71-223-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] 18:58 < xan_IT> using ubuntu 12.10 when i installed nvidia-tegra i recieve boot-loop 18:58 < xan_IT> how i can resolve it? 18:58 < ogra_> lol 18:58 < xan_IT> lol? 18:58 < ogra_> perfect timing :) 18:58 < xan_IT> hahaha why? 18:58 < ogra_> we just finished discussing it above 18:59 < xan_IT> lol 18:59 < ogra_> for now all you can do is remove it again 18:59 < mase76> it seems to run! 18:59 < xan_IT> ok how? 18:59 < xan_IT> im in boot loop 18:59 < ogra_> switch to console with ctrl+alt+f1 18:59 < xan_IT> there is no f1 :D 18:59 < ogra_> the looping should stop after a while 19:00 < ogra_> and should offer you manual configuartion ... 19:00 < ogra_> dont do that but go to console and remove the driver with apt-get purge nvidia-tegra 19:00 < xan_IT> ok found f1 19:00 < ogra_> on next boot all should be fine again 19:01 < xan_IT> i see the version are 15 not 12. so nvidia are made upgrade? 19:01 < ogra_> yes, 12.10 has the r15 release of the driver 19:01 < ogra_> (which is the latest they released) 19:02 < xan_IT> good, I thought nvidia had abandoned 19:02 < ogra_> heh, no, they are actively working on it 19:03 < xan_IT> GOOD 19:03 < ogra_> just generally slow doing releases (its not open source so not every single line change gets published indeed) 19:03 < xan_IT> the "fu*k you" by torvalds works :D 19:04 < ogra_> the fuck you was really nonsense imho ... 19:04 < ogra_> they dont *have* to support linux 19:04 < ogra_> we should be happy they do 19:05 < mase76> ogra_: the driver runs with the old cairo. 19:05 < ogra_> its their code and they have all the right in the world to not open it ... 19:05 < ogra_> mase76, good to know 19:05 < ogra_> (and dont tell me, i cant fix it ;) ) 19:06 < mase76> but no wakeup from suspend. 19:06 < xan_IT> my friend tell me that nvidia driver doesent works also on 12.10 x86 19:07 < ogra_> might be, there was an upload today to pickup the new abi 19:08 < ogra_> wait until the binaries for this show up 19:08 < mase76> do you mean tegra or x86? 19:08 < ogra_> me ? 19:09 < ogra_> i meant x86 19:09 < mase76> yes 19:09 < mase76> ah, ok! 19:09 < ogra_> i wont re-upload tegra to pick up the new abi ... 19:09 < ogra_> if it doesnt find 13 it will completely break 19:09 < mase76> sad, that gnome-shell does not run. 19:11 < xan_IT> there is a way to repartition to make only 1 partition ? 19:18 < mase76> damned! libxine2 segfaults 19:26 < mase76> my fault! gxine has its own config. 19:29 < mase76> ogra_: do you have an advice for my sound problem? gnome comes with ekiga. with alsa only, it works. but when using pulse, i get only crackling. i think, it is a resampling from 8000hz problem. i use the pa settings from precise. 19:30 < ogra_> huh ? gnome forced pulse down out throat ... are you sure ekiga doesnt use it ? 19:30 < ogra_> *our 19:30 < mase76> i set up ekiga to use pulse. 19:31 < ogra_> ubuntu would never have switched to pulse if gnome hadnt forced us by switching the whole desktop to it 19:31 < mase76> yes, pulse sucks 19:31 < mase76> but without some applications won't work correctly. 19:31 < ogra_> so it would surprise me if the default communication tool they ship wouldnt use their default sound setup 19:32 < ogra_> nowadays i think pulse rocks ... compared to all other multiplexers you can use 19:32 < mase76> on my x86 machine, ekiga runs fine with pulse. but not on the ac100. 19:32 < ogra_> but it gave ubuntu a lot bad press for several releases 19:32 < ogra_> with not being ubuntus fault ... 19:36 < mase76> maybe it's to hard for the device to resample. 19:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly__ [~fly@87.228.2.110] 19:37 < ogra_> might be .. i never got mumble to work on mine in full duplex 19:38 < ogra_> it works fine with my bluetooth headset (which offloads everything to the usb BT dongle) 19:38 < ogra_> and also with my usb soundblaster 19:40 < mase76> wow! ekiga also let my desktop freeze since the tegra driver is installed. but the machine is still reachable via ssh. but when i restart the dm the frozen desktop stays. 19:40 < mase76> strange! 19:41 < mase76> btw: should i install the codecs from nv? 19:41 < ogra_> are there hardfload ones ? 19:41 < ogra_> *hardfloat 19:42 < mase76> i thought, that are only firmware binaries. 19:43 < ogra_> well, try it 19:43 < ogra_> but i guess they interface with the abi here and there ... that will cause issues 19:45 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->xan_IT [~xan@host71-223-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] [] 19:45 < mase76> there are only r15 codecs for armel on their site. the package filename contains armel. 19:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 19:49 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:03 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:09 < mase76> does the tegra driver have dri(2) support? 20:11 < mase76> ogra_: do you tell the nv guys about the problem with cairo? i don't have any contacts. 20:12 < srwarren> mase76, I work for NVIDIA, and I'm the one who pointed out the cairo problem 20:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:14 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:15 < mase76> ah ok! 20:28 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->donc_oe [~donSchoe@unaffiliated/donschoe] 20:31 <*> Quits ->donc_oe [~donSchoe@unaffiliated/donschoe] [Client Quit] 20:32 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 20:37 < mase76> it seems that gnome-shell does not run of missing dri2 support. 20:40 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:44 < ogra_> mase76, right, i meant you shoudl tell srwarren when i said i cant fix it :) 20:44 < ogra_> i thought you got already that he is so nice to proxy all our issues to the right guys ;) 20:47 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-rfjzzudyevktcldw] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49 < mase76> did not know, that he is a nvidia guy. 20:50 < ogra_> ah, k ... well, now you do :) 20:52 < mase76> will dri2 come on tegra2? 20:53 < ogra_> that will need kernel integration work ... not sure 20:55 < fly__> hmm 20:56 < fly__> guys, if i download and untar ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz to usb flash 20:56 < fly__> and make propiertly my part6 20:57 < fly__> will I be able boot to ubuntu? 20:57 < ogra_> no 20:57 < fly__> why? 20:57 < ogra_> because it isnt designed this way 20:57 < fly__> ok 20:57 < ogra_> did you read the wiki instructions ? 20:57 < fly__> yes 20:57 < fly__> I try to make multiboot 20:58 < fly__> and this instruction not for me 20:58 < ogra_> ah, well, it wont work that way, you would need to do all the configuration the ac100-tarball-installer does 20:58 < fly__> hmm 20:58 < fly__> so this is strange 20:58 < ogra_> and also the post-reboot configuration the installer does then 20:58 < fly__> why any configuration needs 20:58 < fly__> its ac100 ) 20:59 < fly__> all hardware whell known 20:59 < fly__> well* 20:59 < ogra_> the user isnt, nor the setup he uses 20:59 < fly__> ok 20:59 < ogra_> ubuntu images are in general completely unconfigured 20:59 < ogra_> configuration is done by the installer (debian.-installer or ubiquity) 21:00 < fly__> is there anywhere ubuntu rootsfs that I can use this way? 21:00 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Quit: leaving] 21:00 < ogra_> no, you would need to manually do all steps the installer does (and even that wont configure the debconf backends etc and likely break every now and then in certain packages) 21:01 < fly__> hmm 21:01 < ogra_> you can get *something* to work manually indeed 21:01 < ogra_> but dont expect it to actually behave like every other ubuntu (and refrain from filing bugs please) 21:01 < fly__> at now I failed to boot into OS 21:01 < fly__> 12.10 btw 21:01 < fly__> mb its alpha-3 bugs 21:01 < ogra_> 12.10 isd in development, dont use it on production machines 21:01 < fly__> ac100 in production ^) 21:02 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: No route to host] 21:02 < ogra_> its very likely broken flash-kernel which i didnt have time to look at since A3 21:02 < ogra_> yes 21:02 < fly__> ogra_, do you know, 12.10 a3 works at all? 21:02 < ogra_> much of ubuntu arm was developed on the ac100 ... i used it as my main machine for the last two years 21:02 < fly__> I mean in standard way)) 21:02 < ogra_> yes, it does 21:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:03 < fly__> thx a lot 21:03 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03 < fly__> very sad that I cant get installed rootfs of ubuntu 21:03 ogra_ goes for dinner 21:03 < fly__> will try archlinux 21:03 < fly__> or something 21:04 < ogra_> you could try to debootstrap a minimal filesystem yourself or try to set up from an ubuntu-core tarball 21:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:04 < ogra_> witzh the limitations i told you about above 21:05 < ogra_> anyway, i'm out 21:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:23 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: No route to host] 21:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->torwag_h` [~user@softbank126064095045.bbtec.net] 21:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wmeyer` [~user@cpc1-cmbg12-0-0-cust201.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] 21:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->yaneti_ [~yaneti@indigo.declera.com] 21:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Dr_Azrae1_Tod [~antiheld@Wikipedia/Dr-Azrael-Tod] 21:39 <*> Quits ->Dr_Azrael_Tod [~antiheld@Wikipedia/Dr-Azrael-Tod] [Write error: Broken pipe] 21:39 <*> Quits ->torwag_home [~user@softbank126064095045.bbtec.net] [Write error: Broken pipe] 21:39 <*> Quits ->yaneti [~yaneti@indigo.declera.com] [Write error: Broken pipe] 21:41 <*> Quits ->wmeyer [~user@cpc1-cmbg12-0-0-cust201.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 21:48 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3963D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 22:10 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178134164.adsl.alicedsl.de] 22:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 23:30 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178134164.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Tue Aug 07 2012 00:02 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-54-122.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E41508.dip.t-dialin.net] 00:06 <*> Quits ->grandrew [~andrew@85.202.224.99] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-62-237.adsl.inetia.pl] 00:09 <*> Quits ->elgaard [~elgaard@109.70.52.178] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->grandrew [~andrew@85.202.224.99] 00:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->elgaard [~elgaard@109.70.52.178] 00:26 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28 <*> Quits ->grandrew [~andrew@85.202.224.99] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29 <*> Quits ->fly__ [~fly@87.228.2.110] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:16 <*> Quits ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 03:03 <*> Quits ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hector_vector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-35-76.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 04:04 <*> Quits ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-25-97.tky.mesh.ad.jp] [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:17 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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he maintains it 12:28 < ogra_> and while it seems to boot it still has no power mgmt support etc 12:31 < ogra_> haha, cool, CDE was opensourced http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/ 12:31 < dpol> ogra_: \s adapt :) 12:32 < scoopr> yeah, awesome, now to figure out what to do with it :P 12:32 < scoopr> I guess that meant that motif got opensourced too? 12:32 < ogra_> finally having a moder desktop indeed :) 12:32 < ogra_> it matured 20 years, it *must* be good ;) 12:33 < ogra_> (or was that whiskey ?) 12:33 < dpol> scoopr: it may be build with OpenMotif 13:04 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 13:11 < fly-away> ogra_, hi 13:11 < fly-away> Is flash-kernel broken at 12.10? 13:12 < ogra_> yes 13:12 < fly-away> how can I fix it? 13:12 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:13 < ogra_> boot into sosboot, mount the root partition, mkdir -p /var/lib/flash-kernel ; touch /var/lib/flash-kernel/configured 13:14 < fly-away> thx a lot 13:14 < ogra_> you might need to bindmount /dev, /proc,/sys into the mountpoint, chroot and call flash-kernel as well, not sure 13:15 < fly-away> already do, thx 13:15 < ogra_> (its a hack we will remove soon ... while it fixes all other arm images it sadly breaks ac100 temporarily) 13:15 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> wasn't motive opensourced 5 years ago? 13:15 < fly-away> hmm 13:15 < fly-away> it works 13:15 < fly-away> buuut 13:16 < fly-away> where can I find cmdline that flash-kernel use? 13:18 < ogra_> sudo abootimg -i /dev/mmcblk0p2 13:18 < ogra_> try that one 13:18 < fly-away> I mean where can I set it to use by default 13:18 < ogra_> in 12.10 we dont store the cmdline anywhere anymore 13:18 < fly-away> hmm 13:19 < ogra_> just modify it with abootimg 13:19 < fly-away> so flash-kernel read it, flash new kernel and write cmdline back? 13:21 < ogra_> no 13:21 < ogra_> flash-kernel doesnt touch the bootloader config at all 13:21 < ogra_> iut only updates the kernel and initrd 13:21 < fly-away> ok 13:21 < fly-away> hm 13:21 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-62-237.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:21 < fly-away> mem=512M@0 13:21 < ogra_> the installer dumps the default config in place during install 13:21 < fly-away> will it works? 13:21 < ogra_> just using abootimg 13:22 < ogra_> it does for me :) 13:22 < fly-away> ok) 13:22 < ogra_> just dont remove console=tty1 ... :) 13:22 < fly-away> its tty0 by default) 13:23 < ogra_> in your cmdline ? 13:23 < fly-away> already changed 13:23 < fly-away> in default 12.10 cmdline 13:23 ogra_ checks the code 13:24 < fly-away> oh 13:24 < ogra_> gah, you are right 13:24 < ogra_> that should be tty1 13:24 < fly-away> + 13:25 < fly-away> ureadahead main process (244) terminated with status 5 13:25 < fly-away> hmm 13:25 < ogra_> fine 13:25 < ogra_> status5 just means it found a device it cant handle ... 13:26 < ogra_> which is true for SD cards/MMCs ;) 13:26 < fly-away> loading just stop after this message) 13:26 < ogra_> nothing to worry about 13:26 < ogra_> give it some time ... 13:26 < ogra_> the splash is broken so it shows a black screen until login manager 13:27 < fly-away> i remove splash 13:27 < fly-away> and quiet from cmdline 13:27 < fly-away> hm 13:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87.205.148.48] 13:28 < fly-away> ogra_, are you ubuntu-ac100 developer ? 13:28 < ogra_> yes 13:28 < ogra_> i maintain the images and the installer 13:28 < ogra_> (and flash-kernel in general in ubuntu) 13:28 < fly-away> why you just dont put mkdir -p /var/lib/flash-kernel ; touch /var/lib/flash-kernel/configured to bootimg? 13:29 < ogra_> because i didnt have time to fix it yet ... it was a temp. hack until a debina-istaller bug is fixed ... which i'm waiting for 13:30 < ogra_> it wasnt supposed to take that long and i only returned from travelling for business yesterday 13:30 < ogra_> http://ograblog.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/the-bamboo-feeder-automating-continuous-arm-image-tests/ 13:31 < ogra_> if i add the tuoch command to the ac100 installer it will be there forever for people installing from these images, with no way for me to clean it up 13:32 < ogra_> infinity, where do we stand with the live-installer fix, did you work on it while i was away ? (/me didnt really follow it) 13:38 < fly-away> hmm 13:38 fly-away reinstalling all with fixed bootimg 13:39 < ogra_> wont help 13:40 < ogra_> the installer writes the cmdline after untarring 13:40 < ogra_> you would have to hack up the installer script inside the initrd to actually fix it 13:40 < fly-away> already do 13:41 < fly-away> have you plans to adding nilfs instead of ext4 for rootfs? 13:43 < ogra_> not really, nope 13:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->iz1glg [~iz1glg@host152-222-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] 13:44 < ogra_> / on nilfs would nreed quite some amount of hacking ... and nilfs upstream still considers it not ready for production use 13:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 13:49 < iz1glg> Hi ogra, I'm still try to make tegra video driver work on wheezy. is not abi related problem, i downgrade xorg to 1.11.4 and even with abi 11 lib X is still crashing 13:51 < ogra_> iz1glg, there was a little debugging done by masse76 yesterady and it seems downgrading to caito 1.10.x helps 13:51 < ogra_> *cairo 13:51 < ogra_> even with the xorg 12 abi 13:59 < fly-away> ogra_, hmm 13:59 < fly-away> it failed to boot anyway 14:00 < fly-away> stops after init-bottom and readahead 14:00 < ogra_> i'll do a test install later today, let me see 14:00 < fly-away> I use snapshot from current day 14:01 < ogra_> the last alpha definitely works fine ... 14:01 < fly-away> ok 14:01 < fly-away> a3 you mean? 14:01 < ogra_> yep 14:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@178.237.180.130] 14:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-exlpkhunsjzlqgnx] 15:03 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@178.237.180.130] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 15:11 <*> Quits ->iz1glg [~iz1glg@host152-222-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:12 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87.205.148.48] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-52-173.adsl.inetia.pl] 16:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B77E.dip.t-dialin.net] 16:18 < mase76> i wonder, since i downgraded cairo and the nv driver runs, both ekiga and linphone let the desktop freeze. before i installed the driver, i heard only crackling. 16:18 < mase76> could anybody do a 8000hz audio test? 16:31 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B77E.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B77E.dip.t-dialin.net] 16:46 <*> yaneti_ is now known as yaneti 17:26 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B77E.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 17:31 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@194.165.25.133] [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32 < infinity> ogra_: I didn't have time to look into it, no. 17:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ali_as [~Marvnix@unaffiliated/ali-as/x-9346880] 17:44 < ali_as> I'm after trying to get the ftdi driver to work, the source is for x86, my initial problem is that /linux/init.h is missing, presumably from /lib/modules/3.0.27-1-ac100/build what should I do to get the right headers here or is there a simpler way to get ftdi working on the ac100? 18:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B77E.dip.t-dialin.net] 18:07 < mase76> could it be, that with installed driver all audio goes through the dsp, and in combination with pulse it cannot handle some rates? 18:09 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:19 < ogra_> infinity, k, i'll just add the hack to ac100 tarball installer too then 18:20 < infinity> That seems like a step backward. :P 18:20 < ogra_> well, ac100 really has no reason to use /etc/default/flash-kernel for anything 18:21 < infinity> No, but you still have the upgrade issue. 18:21 < ogra_> the cmdline is set directly through abootimg ... and f-k 3.0 doesnt touch it anymore after installation 18:21 < ogra_> you mean not being able to easily remove the file ? 18:21 < ogra_> yeah 18:22 < infinity> No, I mean that the file isn't THERE on upgraded machines. 18:22 < ogra_> oh, that, yeah 18:22 < ogra_> but that will need postinst love anyway 18:22 < ogra_> on all arches 18:22 < infinity> You'd probably be better off spending your time hunting the live-installer fix than hacking more installers to be wrong. 18:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 18:23 < ogra_> well, my live-installer fix would be to bindmount dev 18:23 < ogra_> but steve didnt like that 18:23 < infinity> Why not? Other than the part where the very code to do that is commented out currently? :P 18:24 ogra_ forgot why ... that was before boston ... he wanted a handling for boot.scr too and thought wer could combine that ... 18:24 < ogra_> *we 18:25 < ogra_> but facing other bootloaders that doesnt really make sense actually 18:25 < ogra_> having a config file for ac100 seems simply wrong 18:25 < ogra_> while it makes sense for preEnv.txt in u-boot 18:26 < ogra_> and i dont really want to dump an empty /etc/default/flash-kernel in place for ac100 installs 18:26 < ogra_> just to check for its existence 18:27 < infinity> Of course, you could go back to the diverting option too. 18:28 < ogra_> that didnt really work 18:28 < infinity> But it might be messy, if it spans packages. 18:28 < ogra_> yep 18:28 < infinity> It didn't work because you did it in f-k. 18:28 < ogra_> right 18:29 < ogra_> so you think i should actually do it in live-installer itself ? 18:29 < infinity> live-installer should probably have a list of diverts for optimisation purposes, much like ubiquity does. 18:29 < ogra_> hmm 18:29 < infinity> Where that gets messy, is that there might be stuff that runs after live-installer, but before f-k, that runs update-initramfs. Which means, you're still screwed. 18:30 < ogra_> well, theoretically i think the bug is way deeper (in the triggers that shouldnt be executed until the very end) 18:30 < infinity> eh? 18:30 < infinity> Which "very end"? 18:30 < ogra_> of the installation 18:30 < infinity> They trigger at the end of any complete dpkg set. 18:31 < ogra_> right, which in case of d-i is wrong imho 18:31 < infinity> So, "chroot target/ apt-get install foo" will set off dpkg triggers. 18:31 < ogra_> they should instead only run t the end of the install 18:31 < infinity> And, no, we can't/won't "fix" that. 18:31 < infinity> Triggers MUST be run at the end of a dpkg invocation. 18:31 < infinity> No ifs, ands, or buts. 18:32 < ogra_> heh, k 18:33 < infinity> It's unfortunate for heavyweight triggers like mandb/update-initramfs/etc, but that's why chroot-building tools (and installers) divert away the scary stuff and then run it all at the end. 18:33 < ogra_> so a diversion it is then 18:33 < infinity> And d-i + live-installer kinda fails at doing that. 18:33 < infinity> Not sure if we can make it not fail, though. 18:33 < infinity> Cause, again, the fix would perhaps span multiple packages. Which makes it very fragile. 18:33 < ogra_> i cant imagine bindmounting dev to actually cause issues 18:34 < infinity> And "fragile" isn't a word you want to use with diversion. 18:34 < ogra_> but i actually dont want to have f-k run at all 18:34 < infinity> Bindmounting /dev is probably the right anwer. Talk to Colin about why it's commented out of live-installer right now? 18:34 < ogra_> yep 18:34 < ogra_> though that still makes f-k write to its target device without potentially having a config yet 18:35 < ogra_> not a biggie if f-k-i actually runs and overwrites but still feels a bit wrong ... thats why i would go with the diversion here 18:35 < ogra_> anyway, over to #ubuntu.installer 18:35 < ogra_> *#ubuntu-installer 18:36 < infinity> Not world-ending for it to write twice. 18:36 < ogra_> yes, just not beautiful 18:37 < ogra_> hmm, the bind mounting isnt commented 18:37 < ogra_> it just runs late 18:38 < ogra_> oh, i see 18:38 ogra_ finds setup_dev 18:51 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-bzfnjautprmteygl] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:47 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:00 < mase76> even in audacity. when working with 8khz, it makes the graphics crazy. 20:01 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-exlpkhunsjzlqgnx] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-llmnvdftqymefbuj] 20:08 < mase76> i get a crackling sound and a flickering panel. 20:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 20:49 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-llmnvdftqymefbuj] [Quit: Verlassend] 21:04 <*> Quits ->ali_as [~Marvnix@unaffiliated/ali-as/x-9346880] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:20 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 21:33 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B77E.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mnk0 [~mnk0@host-78-146-202-151.as13285.net] 21:36 < mnk0> hallo 21:37 < mnk0> anyone have some details about skype installing ac100, running 12.04 >? 21:40 < mnk0> `hallo.. 21:40 < qpx> hallo > 21:40 < qpx> i think skype is not available for arm as far as i know 21:41 < mnk0> oh.. 21:41 < mnk0> =/ 21:42 < mnk0> its all proprietary 21:42 < zombah> there was rumor about skype from n900 21:42 < mnk0> they have ports for android 21:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:54 < mnk0> i think ive seen a video of some hack 21:54 < mnk0> that had skype rolling on it 21:55 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Quit: leaving] 21:55 < qpx> i'm using imo.im btw, much better than any skype client :> 21:55 < qpx> but never tried video conversations or stuff 21:55 < mnk0> really? 21:55 < mnk0> but only problem is whole world uses skype 21:55 < mnk0> i use to keep in touch with parents/family around the world 21:55 < qpx> you can use skype with imo.im, simple as that 21:56 < qpx> i know 21:56 < qpx> https://imo.im/ 21:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-a [~qicruser@83.149.8.157] 21:59 < mnk0> OHHH 21:59 < mnk0> voice? 21:59 < mnk0> does imo.im work on ac100?> 22:00 < qpx> yes, imo.im works on any device with a webbrowser 22:00 < qpx> simply go there and log in 22:03 <*> Quits ->mnk0 [~mnk0@host-78-146-202-151.as13285.net] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:13 < fly-a> ogra_, hi there! 22:14 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14 < fly-a> how can I say flash-kernel use 5 partition for flashing kernel instead of 6? 22:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178137059.adsl.alicedsl.de] 22:37 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->iz1glg [~iz1glg@host152-222-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] 22:43 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 23:13 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178137059.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 23:20 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 23:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p54943532.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:24 <*> Quits ->fly-a [~qicruser@83.149.8.157] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] --- Day changed Wed Aug 08 2012 00:12 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01 < wmeyer`> today i received the ac100, and i am impressed 01:02 < wmeyer`> now the second part configuring all the stuff i had on desktop 01:02 < wmeyer`> including all the weird things i collected so far (WM, browser, emacs git etc.) 01:25 <*> Quits ->tvaculin [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:34 <*> Quits ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p54943532.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Verlassend] 04:47 <*> Quits ->iz1glg [~iz1glg@host152-222-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@2001:c08:3700:ffff::b01] 05:06 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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15:47 < marvin24> ODROID-X looks nice to me 15:48 < marvin24> 100 €, quad core with 1.4 GHz and kinda open-source graphics driver 15:48 < marvin24> (quad mali) 15:49 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but no sata 15:49 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> so i would prefer a1000 15:49 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> or cubox 15:50 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/ 15:50 < marvin24> well, sata/pci-e and low cost is often exclusive 15:51 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. a10 is sub $100 15:51 < ogra_> mx6 boards are pretty slick too 15:52 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and i would even go as far as paying 200€ 15:52 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> if it would do everything i need 15:52 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but currently that seems still out of reach 15:53 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> that is unless those marvell armada 1500 become aviable soon 15:53 < marvin24> depends on how sata is connected (e.g. via usb, pci-e, or something else) 15:54 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> of course 15:54 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> like trimslice 15:54 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ^^ 15:54 < ogra_> marvell usually has a proper SATA port 15:54 < ogra_> the xp board i have seen had 2 DRAM slots, 3 PCIe slots and 4 real SATA connectors 15:55 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> nice 15:55 < marvin24> costa quanta? 15:55 < ogra_> (indeed that was an ATX sized dev board, enduser devices will be smaller with less stuff on) 15:55 < ogra_> marvin24, not on sale 15:55 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i would love to throw such a thing into my mini-ITX-device 15:55 < ogra_> but they will be 15:57 < marvin24> based on mv78460 I guess 15:57 < ogra_> i think there will be some server options you can soon buy with the xp boards 15:57 < marvin24> maybe > 800 € in this configuration 15:57 < ogra_> well, i doubt you will be able to buy the board standalone 15:57 < ogra_> rather in a small sever case with PSU etc 16:03 < marvin24> http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/05/page/2/ 16:04 < ogra_> yep 16:06 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> not exactly my usecase 16:06 < ogra_> well, there is hope they sell them also in normal server setups :) 16:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-mnclrphpiotwdbxy] 16:07 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> Rikomagic To Sell an AllWinner A10 Android & Ubuntu Netbook 16:07 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> whoa 16:08 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> looks neat 16:09 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and isn't the only one 16:11 < marvin24> that's very old hw 16:11 < marvin24> e.g. single core only cortex a8 16:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. yes 16:12 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but overall i think its at least equal to ac100 16:12 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> 3x USB, 1GB RAM, no NVidia 16:12 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> Ethernet 16:18 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Quit: Leaving.] 16:18 <*> Quits ->iz1glg [~iz1glg@host152-222-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but who had the idea "lets put linux on the CF-Card"? 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21:27 < mase76> i still have problems playing 8000hz audio with the nvidia driver installed. 21:41 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-95-70.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-71-12.adsl.inetia.pl] 22:07 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:41 <*> Quits ->jbrown [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:46 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178128046.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 22:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->jbrown [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] 23:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 23:09 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B83C.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] 23:32 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:58 Dr_Azrael_Tod has no nvidia-driver 23:59 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] --- Day changed Thu Aug 09 2012 00:23 <*> Quits ->Unseen2 [snowcat@snowcat.de] [Quit: Gone.] 00:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Unseen2 [snowcat@snowcat.de] 00:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Unseen2a [snowcat@snowcat.de] 00:34 <*> Quits ->Unseen2 [snowcat@snowcat.de] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:35 <*> Unseen2a is now known as Unseen2 00:35 <*> Quits ->Unseen2 [snowcat@snowcat.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Unseen2 [snowcat@snowcat.de] 00:44 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 01:06 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-71-12.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-248-182.adsl.inetia.pl] 01:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 01:22 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-248-182.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-69-169.adsl.inetia.pl] 01:32 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] [Quit: Verlassend] 01:34 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:36 <*> Quits ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] 01:56 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 02:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hector_vector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-8-12.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 02:33 <*> Quits ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-47-89.tky.mesh.ad.jp] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:32 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:56 <*> Quits ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:38 <*> Quits ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] [Read error: Connection timed out] 04:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 05:04 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 05:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 05:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 05:35 <*> Quits ->hector_vector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-8-12.tky.mesh.ad.jp] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:39 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 05:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 05:52 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:08 <*> Quits ->DJ_HiP [~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DJ_HiP [~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10] 08:24 <*> Quits ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] 08:25 <*> Quits ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] [Remote host closed the connection] 08:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] 08:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] 09:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 09:52 < dpol> marvin24: hi... last patch in 'for-next' tree is't parse partition table on internal mmc (boot0 boo1 only). 10:00 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:12 <*> Quits ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E4398A.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 10:44 < marvin24> dpol: yes, I added it to my local branch 10:44 < marvin24> I'm going to push it in the evening (GMT) 10:45 < dpol> marvin24: ok 10:48 < stuw> marvin24, hi. what's the problem with current implementation? 10:48 < marvin24> stuw: it was about mainline kernel (for for-next to be exact) 10:49 < marvin24> just a change for my local version 10:49 < marvin24> (not for upstream) 10:51 < stuw> f6d2c81 in for-next is not for upstream. I got it. But why it does not parse mmc0? 10:53 < marvin24> stuw: ah, I got confused - so it should work already 10:54 < marvin24> but with the removal of the board files, it stopped for me yesterday which I needed to fix (not on gitorious yet) 10:55 < marvin24> dpol: if you want to use it, you need to modify the bootloader args in the kernel config directly 10:55 < marvin24> for some reason, it will not accept kernel args from the bootloaderr 10:56 < stuw> marvin24, ok, it's more clear for me now :) 10:56 < stuw> Btw, I use sosboot4 image. Kernel from this image is able to parse mmc0 using tegrapart. 3.1 kernel doesn't :( I used different mbr offsets but 3.1 always can't find msdos magic. 10:57 < marvin24> stuw: is it tegrapart activated in the config? 10:57 < stuw> another interesting detail is tegrapart work on another ac100 version (mine 117 - tegrapart in 3.1 doesn't work. for 116 it works fine) 10:58 < stuw> marvin24, yes, tegrapart tries to parse msdos but can't find msdos magic. 10:58 < stuw> it looks very strange for me 10:58 < stuw> nvtegra works fine 10:58 < stuw> tegrapart from sosboot4 image also works fine. 10:59 < stuw> could it be ralated to mmc devce type? (117 - 8Gb, 116- 32 Gb) 10:59 < marvin24> it's possible that the offsets are different 10:59 < marvin24> on the other hand, offset from the sosboot image should be same as for the 3.1 kernel 11:00 < marvin24> maybe you could try to find the msdos magic offset from the booted 3.1 kernel (e.g. boot from sd card) 11:01 < stuw> marvin24, good idea :) I planned to modify kernel but this way is easier. offset from sosboot image is ok (checked when booted from this image). 11:02 < marvin24> I'm not sure of the secure partitons have influence on this 11:02 < stuw> but sound patches first :) I will try to finish it soon. 11:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 11:02 < marvin24> stuw: cool - thanks! 11:03 < marvin24> stuw: any idea why mase76 has problems with 8k sampling rate? 11:03 < stuw> had no time for any patches last few weeks :( 11:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy [~quassel@78.134.81.15] 11:04 < stuw> marvin24, I saw his messages. I will search details in logs. IIRC this problem were discussed already earlier. 11:05 < stuw> it could be related to pulseaudio 11:07 < stuw> if problem presents only when nv driver is installed then it is something different. 11:09 < marvin24> maybe you can ask him to send a test file 11:10 < stuw> yes 11:12 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-69-169.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-qptnhogdgobpgnkg] 11:17 < dpol> marvin24: thanks for help, I've boot success. 11:17 < marvin24> dpol: nice! 11:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-192-5.adsl.inetia.pl] 11:20 < dpol> marvin24: I've get system time 1970-01-01 03:03:40 after boot :) 11:20 < marvin24> yes, there is not rtc driver yet 11:24 < stuw> hmmm, may be problem with mono sound only. I saw patch for tegra to support stereo only (but can't this patch find right now). 11:25 < stuw> *can't find this patch 11:27 < marvin24> yes, I disabled mono 11:28 < marvin24> because tegra dai (or something like that) does not support it 11:28 < marvin24> instead, it caused a lot of warnings in the log 11:29 < stuw> marvin24, thank for the information. will wait for mase76 11:30 < marvin24> the funny thing is, that mainline has mono support which 3.1 kernel doesn't ;-) 11:37 <*> Quits ->lenios_ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-256-97.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios_ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-256-97.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] 11:37 < stuw> :) 11:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-189-73.as13285.net] 11:43 < paultrafalgar> all cpu cycles being goobled up such that i cant type stuff sometimes - 10 instances of kworker running - see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/debian-kworker-u-7-using-up-30-of-cpu-resources-942571/ 11:44 < paultrafalgar> any idea how to cure this - googleing doesn't find any 11:45 < paultrafalgar> tried paul@ac100:~$ sudo pkill nepomuk 11:45 < paultrafalgar> paul@ac100:~$ sudo pkill strigi 11:45 < paultrafalgar> paul@ac100:~$ sudo pkill akonadi 11:45 < paultrafalgar> paul@ac100:~$ sudo pkill desktop-effects 11:45 < paultrafalgar> but they just reappear 11:52 < stuw> Жц 11:52 < stuw> *sorry ) 11:59 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:19 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-189-73.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 12:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] 13:00 < dpol> marvin24: after boot collors in text console and X is different then 3.0 kernel... for example, dark blue is brown, etc... :) 13:20 <*> Quits ->Vandroy [~quassel@78.134.81.15] [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy [~quassel@78.134.81.15] 13:31 < marvin24> dpol: yes, blue and red is exchanged I think 13:32 < marvin24> but the ubuntu theme looks more modern now ;-) 13:35 < dpol> marvin24: it's "modern" bug in tegra-drm-fb ?.. :) 13:35 < marvin24> dpol: what's your power consumption? 13:36 <*> Quits ->Vandroy [~quassel@78.134.81.15] [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] 13:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy [~quassel@78.134.81.15] 13:41 < dpol> marvin24: nothing, I'm glad to see this gui without buggy nv drivers. 13:42 < marvin24> dpol: try upower -d when ac is disconnected 13:47 < dpol> marvin24: http://pastebin.com/qEDXa2uC 13:47 < marvin24> dpol: ok, 5.64532 W - thanks! 14:02 < dpol> marvin24: bt, wifi is on, compiling one stuff in background... It should be smaller on normal state. 14:03 < marvin24> cpu freq scaling actually works 14:03 < marvin24> somehow I though is wasn't 14:03 < marvin24> but no lcd dimming yet 14:04 < marvin24> but pwm will come soon 14:13 < dpol> marvin24: http://pastebin.com/gzckhrBf 14:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-40-213.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 14:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-djcujompvvtfvkoz] 15:17 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] [] 15:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] 15:19 < zombah> marvin24: hello, i found one new thing with 3.1 nvec driver, on android battery capacity updated only one time on system start, seems it need capacity polling with timeout , there is nvec_power_poll in nvec_power.c but i cant uderstand what this function doing, is it planned for polling of capacity or not, maybe you can take a look on it plz 15:29 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-qptnhogdgobpgnkg] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF90C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 15:42 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF90C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 15:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] 15:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-qztzxqvgbugpltnc] 15:51 < marvin24> zombah: yes, it is called every 5 secs 15:52 < marvin24> at the end of the function, the time is reset to 5 secs 15:53 < marvin24> we had this problem also in the past 15:53 < marvin24> polling too fast somehow hurts 15:54 < marvin24> ah, when it doesn't update for you, you may add some debug into this function 15:54 < marvin24> if it is called, the maybe android doesn't get it 15:55 < zombah> marvin24: and nvec_power_poll is called in case AC only as i understand right? yes i will try to add debug to see something 15:56 < marvin24> wait, I need to checkout the branch first 15:57 < marvin24> ok 15:58 < marvin24> nvec_power_poll is initialized during ac supply register 15:58 < marvin24> but it is used for both 15:58 < marvin24> I know this crap 15:58 < marvin24> I did a rewrite in my for-next branch 15:59 < zombah> oh i will try for-next version to see difference 15:59 < marvin24> that's maybe not so easy 15:59 < zombah> some dependencies? 15:59 < marvin24> because the latter uses device tree while 3.1 uses platform data 16:01 < zombah> i see, device tree.. i dont know much about it yet. 16:03 < marvin24> well, I also had to learn ... 16:04 < zombah> maybe it is easy to backport it? or it is totaly different? 16:05 < zombah> i mean nvec_power not device tree 8) 16:05 < marvin24> sure, the code isn't too complex 16:05 < marvin24> even I was able to understand it 16:05 < marvin24> and I'm not a programmer at all 16:06 < stuw> i suppose it's better to view debug messages first. maybe it's easy to fix :) 16:09 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-qztzxqvgbugpltnc] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:11 < zombah> if you not programmer, i dont know who am i, i dont understand it 8) 16:14 < stuw> zombah, relax, marvin24 understates his skills :) you may be not a programmer by profession but have good skills 16:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-rfmtgyctdpepuxbu] 16:14 < stuw> *you is equal to 'any man' in this case :) 16:16 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 < zombah> stuw: 8) 16:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] 17:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 17:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF90C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 17:10 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF90C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 17:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] 17:56 < longpig> marvin, any progress on a kernel that will work with the hardfp nvidia drivers? 17:58 < stuw> mase76, could you post 8kHz audio sample that cause problem on your system? 17:59 < mase76> just try ekiga or linphone. there is an echo test inside. or do you have audacity installed? 17:59 < mase76> create a 8000hz project in audacity and try to record. 18:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.116.117.107] 18:00 < stuw> mase76, I use arch linux. I'm not sure I have this tools installed. 18:01 < stuw> mase76, create two files: arecord -r 8000 -c 2 -f S16 > 8khz_stereo.wav and arecord -r 8000 -c 1 -f S16 > 8khz_mono.wav 18:02 < stuw> mase76, tell something during recording. and then play each file with aplay 18:03 < mase76> my ac100 is currently installing a new system. cannot try now. 18:03 < marvin24> longpig: only 3.1 works with the hardfp drivers 18:03 < stuw> ok, try later. IIRC I had no problems with 8khz audio on my system. 18:03 < mase76> but i can say, that ekiga or linphone problems did not appear with alsa only. 18:04 < mase76> do you have the nv driver installed? 18:05 < mase76> i think, the nv driver causes this problems. 18:06 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:06 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] 18:08 < stuw> mase76, I installed nv driver few days ago. 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13:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> or the lack thereof 13:30 < marvin24> feel free to port it over ;-) 13:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX [~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-103-216.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] 13:33 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:34 < marvin24> strange enough, it was submitted one and a half years ago, but no one included it in his tree ... 13:35 < marvin24> anyway, I would need device tree porting 13:56 < dpol> marvin24: boot scripts can not get time from system 13:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-178-227.as13285.net] 13:58 < paultrafalgar> interesting (a warning to ARM to get product out): http://www.engadget.com/photos/intel-reveals-near-threshold-voltage-processor-other-conceptual-awesomeness-at-idf-video/ 14:07 < phh> waaaaaaaa, it can go to 10mW, congrats intel ! 14:17 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18 <*> Quits ->afaerber_ [~andreasf_@p5494304E.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Verlassend] 14:22 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-178-227.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 14:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 14:29 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-72-244.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:29 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 14:37 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-dltnjtpprryenmld] 14:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-26-55.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 14:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 14:51 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24_ [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 15:05 <*> Quits ->Chipaca [~John@ec2-46-137-162-6.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] [Changing host] 15:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Chipaca [~John@canonical/chipaca] 15:05 <*> Chipaca is now known as __chip__ 15:06 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> any opinion about those rtd1186 mediaplayers? 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If I get a lot of "init: Failed to create pty - disabling logging for job", did I derp the kernel installation or did I do something wrong with the rootfs? 01:24 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:26 < ogra_> vanger, thats a bug in upstart 01:27 < ogra_> just ignore it, shouldnt do any harm and a fix for it is in the works 01:30 < vanger> Hmm, that's quite bad, as my AC100 suddenly stopped booting up after 6-8 seconds after kernel loading, so I was trying newer kernels and rootfs to remedy this... 01:31 < vanger> I hear a click from the dynamics and after that nothing happens, even if it stays powered on for a night 01:39 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178139128.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 02:04 < ogra_> vanger, are you playing with 12.10 there ? 02:05 < vanger> ogra_, I'm tried anything - 11.10, 12.04, 12.10. In either case, the netbook freezes shortly after boot. Maybe some kind of hardware failure... 02:06 < vanger> I've, sorry 02:06 < ogra_> what model is it ? 02:06 < vanger> AC 100-117 02:07 < ogra_> hmm, that should theoretically work fine 02:07 < vanger> I'm placing rootfs on SD 02:07 < ogra_> ah, well, thats not heavily tested 02:07 < vanger> Well, it stopped working for no reason. Before that more than a year everything was perfect 02:08 < vanger> I guess, I'll try using internal flash memory tomorrow 02:08 < ogra_> that should definitely work 02:09 < vanger> I hope. It would be a shame to go on a trip without my favorite laptop 02:09 < vanger> Well, thank you. 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It sucks a lot of resources, what I do, I'm using still lightdm and some lightweight manager that works on a framebuffer. There are variety of WM among them Xfce would be fine, Enlightement perhaps and many others. I'm using tiling WM and kind of minimalistic approach so can't advise here further. But yes, it's doable. 13:51 < ogra_> i know it is doable, its a matter of the price i have to pay for it (i maintain said images and i dont really want to raise my workload) 13:52 < ogra_> as long as i do it alone it will likely have to be one of the -desktop packages, i wont invest the time to actually create a desktop from scratch for it 13:52 < ogra_> s/wont/cant/ 13:53 < wmeyer`> ogra_: you can get rid of unity, install xfce and choose it with lightdm. 13:54 < ogra_> i know what you *can* do, i'm talking about the default ;) 13:54 < ogra_> unity-2d was still bearable usable on ac100 ... with it being discontinued and unity 3d being the default we cant ship it as a default anymore 13:55 < wmeyer`> default options are never good; and GNU/Linux systems have such design that they are highly customisable 13:55 < ogra_> default options are good if the core developer can only invest ah hour into maintenance occasionally 13:56 < wmeyer`> so what do you want exactly? 13:56 < wmeyer`> you want precooked Ubuntu that works well on low boundned memory device? 13:57 < ogra_> opinions if the new default should rather be lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop or if a team wants to form that maintains a separate ac100-desktop pacvkage in ubuntu i can use in the official images when i build them 13:57 < wmeyer`> yes, that sounds sensible 13:58 < ogra_> as i said above i will start a poll on the mailing list but if people have bright ideas on IRC that done read our ML i wanted to collect opinions here ;) 13:59 < wmeyer`> but is there any choice? ;-) 13:59 < marvin24> is it do difficult to do a "sed s/unity-2d/xubunutu-desktop/" ? 13:59 < ogra_> no, not at all 13:59 < wmeyer`> i really think like most people here that unity-2d is an overkill 13:59 < wmeyer`> even unity-2d 13:59 < ogra_> marvin24, but since there is choice now, i dont want to make that decision alone 14:00 < wmeyer`> you can save easily around 100MBs of memory just by using different desktop 14:00 < wmeyer`> that's big deal. 14:00 < wmeyer`> so yes +1 for different desktop for AC100. 14:01 < ogra_> well, nothing to +1 here :) 14:01 < marvin24> I personally have no experience with other desktops than unity 14:01 < ogra_> the differnt desktop is a given already 14:01 < ogra_> we cant keep unity, thats a fact 14:01 < marvin24> I guess it boils down to what extensions to the task bar are available 14:01 < ogra_> unless nvidia loosens their license even more and we get a stable driver that we can ship by default 14:02 < wmeyer`> I think i don't understand the problem to say anyting useful 14:02 < marvin24> on the other hand, the tegra driver is still in -rc state 14:02 < ogra_> unity 3d under the binary driver draws a lot less power than anay framebuffer setup i have tried on the ac100 14:02 < ogra_> (and eats less memory too= 14:02 < marvin24> there is a chance to get unity-3d working 14:03 < ogra_> well, currentls unity 3d still hides the UI elements from you thanks to a driver bug with nvidia-tegra 14:03 < marvin24> ogra_: is it for sure that unity-3d will support opengl/es ? 14:03 < ogra_> it does just fine on omap4 14:03 < ogra_> with the imagination PVR driver 14:03 < marvin24> that could be a test point for nvidia 14:03 < marvin24> does it work with mesa btw? 14:03 < ogra_> well, on the tegra driver you end up with invisible panel and launcher (and their items) 14:04 < marvin24> unity-3d doesn't even work on my desktop (intel or amd chipset) 14:04 < ogra_> it can apparently work with mesa ... i really wouldnt want to run that though 14:05 < marvin24> there is a similar bug (no menu bar, no toolbar) on the pc side with upstream xorg 14:05 < marvin24> so I really wonder if it's some unity or driver bug 14:05 < ogra_> hmm, i havent seen it manifest in x86 ever ... intresting 14:05 < marvin24> you will see it in xorg-edgers 14:05 < ogra_> in any case this isnt a decision made by canonical or the unity team, gnome upstream decided it 14:06 < ogra_> all gnome apps will require GLES in the near future 14:06 < ogra_> (with gtk4 even the toolkit) 14:06 < ogra_> s/GLES/a GL implementation/ 14:07 < ogra_> (near future = before quantal releases) 14:08 < ogra_> on powerful x86 systems apparently llvmpipe is a good solution if you dont have GL capable HW 14:08 < marvin24> I try to ask srwarren if he could add a testcase to their bug tracker 14:08 < ogra_> on low end x86 or arm that isnt an opportunity though 14:08 < ogra_> that would be great 14:09 < ogra_> you said tegra is still in rc ? 14:09 < marvin24> from the xorg-edgers homepage: "July 13th: Mesa currently has problems with unity where the launcher icons are invisible, it's suggested to hold mesa back to the 0529 version, stop using this PPA, or use another session such as gnome or unity-2d until it is fixed." 14:09 < ogra_> wasnt the last release a final ? 14:09 < marvin24> ogra_: no, stil rc 14:09 < marvin24> at least for the kernel side 14:09 < ogra_> hmm, my tarball says r15... no rc in it 14:09 < ogra_> ah 14:10 < marvin24> android kernel seems to be release 14:10 < marvin24> and the hard float port is alpha anyway 14:10 < ogra_> well .. "port" 14:11 < ogra_> you usually dont have to do anything for a hardfloat "port" but recompile with the right toolchain to pick up the abi change 14:12 < marvin24> in theory ... - yes 14:12 < marvin24> "NVIDIA is pleased to release the Linux Tegra Driver Package, compiled with support for the hardfp ABI. Please note that this software has been minimally tested, and is provided for evaluation purposes." 14:17 < ogra_> yeah, legal babbling :P 14:17 < wmeyer`> ogra_: how about pieces of an assembly in the driver and right layout of the registers -- it's not entirely trivial 14:18 < ogra_> irrelevant for abi differences 14:18 < wmeyer`> relevant 14:18 < wmeyer`> of course abi defines calling convention 14:22 < ogra_> really depends how crappy your code is programmed :) 14:22 < ogra_> for the PVR driver there were no changes needed at all between softfloat and hardfloat 14:22 < wmeyer`> be careful with this judge; you want performance right? 14:23 < mase76> hi! 14:24 < ogra_> wmeyer`, well, the hf PVR driver is definitely more performant than the softfloat one :) 14:24 < wmeyer`> but you don't want to make it suboptimal 14:24 < ogra_> but indeed if you write crappy code that hardcodes asm instead of using gcc atomics and other bad stuff you will have to touch it 14:24 < mase76> i tested kde with kwin_gles a few days ago. 14:25 < wmeyer`> you mean intrinsics, intrinsics can't be used everywhere 14:25 < wmeyer`> it's up to the register allocator how it shuffles the register for instance, constraints help but not much 14:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->szabolor [58d1daf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.209.218.245] 14:25 < ogra_> anyway, thats a moot discussion 14:26 < ogra_> i'm currently using the hf driver while typing :) 14:26 < wmeyer`> I didn't start it :-) 14:26 < wmeyer`> gtg 14:26 < wmeyer`> see ya 14:26 < ogra_> bye 14:27 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->szabolor [58d1daf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.209.218.245] [] 14:28 <*> Quits ->Dr_Azrael_Tod [~antiheld@Wikipedia/Dr-Azrael-Tod] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:29 < mase76> kde worked nearly fine. some instabilities, but this could be the nv driver itself. 14:30 < mase76> does the nv driver affect audio? 14:31 < ogra_> shouldnt 14:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] 14:32 < mase76> i think, the 8000hz problem comes from there. when playing, the whole desktop freezes. 14:32 < ogra_> but you might hit more I/O which in turn can influence audio 14:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Dr_Azrael_Tod [~antiheld@Wikipedia/Dr-Azrael-Tod] 14:36 < mase76> does resuming work for you with nv driver installed? 14:45 <*> Quits ->Dr_Azrael_Tod [~antiheld@Wikipedia/Dr-Azrael-Tod] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Dr_Azrael_Tod [~antiheld@Wikipedia/Dr-Azrael-Tod] 14:46 < mase76> if ubuntu hasn't a kde-window-manager package with gles enabled, i have built a debian one. i can upload it, if anybody is interested. 14:52 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39967.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39967.dip.t-dialin.net] 14:59 <*> wmeyer` is now known as wmeyer 15:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 15:51 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39967.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@2001:5c0:1000:a::f6d] 16:27 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-172-91.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-114-150.adsl.inetia.pl] 16:45 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-114-150.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:45 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-66-13.adsl.inetia.pl] 16:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF9799.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 16:53 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF9799.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 16:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] 16:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->yunfan1 [~jyf@124.205.129.38] 16:56 <*> Quits ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39967.dip.t-dialin.net] 17:16 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-66-13.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-106-221.adsl.inetia.pl] 17:35 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@2001:5c0:1000:a::f6d] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 17:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@2001:5c0:1000:a::15ff] 18:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 19:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 19:08 <*> Quits ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E4251D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E43F8F.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:33 <*> Quits ->yunfan1 [~jyf@124.205.129.38] [Quit: Leaving.] 19:56 <*> Quits ->jbrown [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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zombah> you spend much time playing with your ac100 why not to spend some money on it 8) 22:36 < mase76> because i will reach the price of an ideabook or so. 22:38 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39 < mase76> the fork contains commits for 1.2 and 1,5ghz. no 1.4ghz. but i think, i only have to modify the freq and voltage tables. 22:40 < zombah> the tables itself seem to stay same as in old kernels 22:41 < zombah> like this https://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-kernel/commit/3025503214aa6af8ccdf754fe9af911eafc917c1 22:46 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 22:51 < mase76> and to run the system on the usb stick, a root=/dev/sda1 in the bootimg.cfg cmdline should do it. 23:08 < mase76> did you try overclocking the cpu? 23:09 < zombah> i tried on old kernels, seems to work with additional cooling tuning 23:10 < zombah> but later i droped this idea as useless for me, no need of more mghz 23:17 < mase76> and which clock did you try? is it worth the effort? i will do the cooling mod in every casebook 23:18 < mase76> case 23:18 < mase76> damned dictionary :) 23:20 < zombah> i reached 1.5Ghz 23:21 < zombah> or 1.4 dont remember for sure 23:21 < mase76> and battery? i want to do not more than 1.4ghz. 23:23 < zombah> proportional 23:24 < mase76> my maemo phone eats less battery since i overclocked from 600 to 900mhz. it spends less time on the higher freq. 23:25 < zombah> hm i didnt run any tests, but subjective eats more 23:26 < mase76> did you feel some speed difference while usage? 23:26 < zombah> about effort, i found it useless, as all games run fine on factory clocks and casual app dont need it at all 23:27 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178143116.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 23:27 < mase76> you could be right with that. but i find the cooling mod useful. as i have the device already open to build in the usb adapter. 23:32 < mase76> but thx for the 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Solution is "After removing mesa EGL & GLESv2, proper softlinks for nvidia libraries needs to be created (libEGL.so.1 -> libEGL.so, libGLESv2.so.2 -> libGLESv2.so)" 18:21 < srwarren> Apparently there aren't any official sonames for the EGL libraries yet, so compiz assumes libEGL.so.1, but we install libEGL.so. 18:22 < srwarren> Someone also chimed in that they hoped the soname specification would be sorted out at XDC, next month. 18:32 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-zfpqjbacpbfsojkd] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-kvorywwbxjzfzogd] 18:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:04 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-97-71.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:04 < ogra_> srwarren, the deb packaged versions of the driver properly create the .so.1 links, its a requirement for packaging 19:06 < srwarren> OK, so our engineer briefly tested unity-3d and said it worked OK, with that fix in place 19:06 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-kvorywwbxjzfzogd] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07 < ogra_> i'll test it in my next milestone testing 19:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-35-77.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-seanangkifzawvmn] 19:37 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-seanangkifzawvmn] [Quit: Verlassend] 19:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 19:54 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 20:00 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: Continental Circus] 20:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178130238.adsl.alicedsl.de] 20:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 20:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 20:37 < mase76> using the webcam with any voip software i tested ends in a desktop freeze. the mouse keeps movable but nothing is clickable. also the keyboard is dead. no problems without nv driver. 20:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Bubbazz [55b47e2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.180.126.45] 20:40 < Bubbazz> hi 20:41 < Bubbazz> i ve got some question about the tarball installtion 20:41 < Bubbazz> with the ac100 20:42 < Bubbazz> can smb help me? 20:42 < PaulFertser> Bubbazz: just ask 20:42 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44 < Bubbazz> so, after i flash the bootloader(there i dont had problems) on the ac100 and copy the tar.gz ubuntu data on the usb flash and want to install it on the toshiba its freez everytime at the unpacking 20:44 < Bubbazz> i want to install 12.04 20:45 < PaulFertser> Have you tried a different flash drive? 20:46 < Bubbazz> jup, and ex2,ex3 and MRB GRUB and a sec flash 20:46 < Bubbazz> drive 20:51 < Bubbazz> im now trying with an sd card 21:01 < mase76> with the downgraded cairo and disabled nv driver, the colours in the browser are correct now (r15 kernel). 21:10 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:12 <*> Quits ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] [Quit: Leaving.] 21:14 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 21:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:34 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 21:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->vanger [~vanger@195-138-84-8.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] 21:38 < vanger> Hi. Could you, please, remind me, how to investigate why the touchpad stopped working? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, 3.0.27-1 kernel. 21:39 < stuw_> f9 21:39 < tvaculin> yep 21:39 < vanger> Now I'm officially stupid 21:39 < vanger> Thank you 21:39 < tvaculin> np ;) 21:48 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: No route to host] 21:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Negroamaro [lkhtej@app9.chatmosphere.org] 21:55 <*> Quits ->Negroamaro [lkhtej@app9.chatmosphere.org] [Client Quit] 22:04 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] 22:21 < marvin24> Bubbazz: you need a vfat formated usb stick with a single partition (sda1) 22:21 < marvin24> and you can only install to the internal emmc 22:30 <*> p2-mate_ is now known as p2-mate 22:34 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@141.70.80.2] 22:44 < srwarren> ogra_, FYI, the NVIDIA engineer who tested unity-3d was using Quantal (so X ABI 12), not Quantal -proposed (X ABI 13). (perhaps obviously, since we haven't published an X ABI 13 driver IIRC, but anyway, I though I'd mention it just to make sure it was understood) 22:48 <*> Quits ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@141.70.80.2] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-103-64.customers.d1-online.com] 23:01 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178130238.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 23:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178130238.adsl.alicedsl.de] 23:04 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-103-64.customers.d1-online.com] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:05 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Quit: Page closed] 23:13 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178130238.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:14 < Bubbazz> Hi, could you help me with a problem, i want to install 12.04 on the ac100 and everytime i start the flashdrive tu unzip the tar.gz data is says init: error cant create /root/... etc. my usb flashdrive is 8 gb FAT , MBR yes i tried with an other usb but it dosnt helped 23:14 < Bubbazz> so can somebody help me 23:16 < Bubbazz> and after restart it everytimes says that the checksum does not match 23:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:24 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 23:51 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Leaving] 23:54 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] --- Day changed Wed Aug 15 2012 00:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] 00:16 < ard> Bubbazz : did you md5sum your download? 00:17 < ard> and I mean both: your bootimg and the root.gz 00:19 < ard> it really runs nice, if you don't use the default desktop environments :-) 00:28 < Bubbazz> yeah evertime 00:28 < Bubbazz> y 00:40 <*> Quits ->tvaculin [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3BA87.dip.t-dialin.net] 01:04 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A390.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:24 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3BA87.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Leaving] 01:40 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 02:25 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 02:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 03:51 < ard> 04:37 <*> Quits ->Bubbazz [55b47e2d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.180.126.45] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:57 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-35-77.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-79-228.adsl.inetia.pl] 05:03 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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i had to solder a slot, but it does not work. or is a special module to enable? 18:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.149.50] 18:27 < rpiloose> hi all, auto-answer: --- Day changed Mon Jul 23 2012 19:42 < rpiloose> I saw in the boot logs, there a ttyGS1 port, where is it located on motherboard? 18:29 < rpiloose> rpiloose: see in comment @ http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/mach-tegra/board-paz00.c#L64 18:35 < rpiloose> BTW, under ArchLinuxArm/kernel 3.0.27 after the update of xorg and/or xf86-input-evdev, the mouse cursor does no longer move (no F9 trouble)... 18:35 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.149.50] [] 18:39 < PaulFertser> mase76: i think there's no pci-e controller at all. 18:40 < mase76> http://www.altechnative.net/2012/02/07/morebetter-internal-storage-on-the-toshiba-ac100-part-2/ 18:41 < PaulFertser> mase76: yes, it's not pci-e 18:41 < PaulFertser> mase76: he used usb there on that connector 18:41 < mase76> i have this p3mu here. 18:42 < mase76> but there was no connector in my device. i soldered one. double checked all connections. 18:42 < PaulFertser> mase76: but what card do you insert? 18:43 < mase76> that p3mu (mini pci-e to usb). like in the tutorial. 18:43 < PaulFertser> Yes, i see. 18:43 < PaulFertser> Do you not see anything at all in dmesg? 18:44 < PaulFertser> That's just one of the usb slots, it should work out of the box, no special modules are needed. 18:44 < mase76> wait, i have to log in via ssh. i have the naked boad only on my table. nothing else connected. 18:45 < mase76> is it hotpluggable? 18:46 < PaulFertser> mase76: usb is 18:46 < mase76> and that card? 18:46 < PaulFertser> Well, i'd say yes 18:46 < PaulFertser> That card seems to be just a "breakout board". 18:47 < mase76> nothing to see in the logs. 18:48 < mase76> as the 10k is a model without modem and no slot was built in, i ask myself, is port connected to the system? 18:49 < PaulFertser> mase76: it's the same motherboard 18:49 < PaulFertser> So it should be 18:49 < mase76> maybe parts are missing. 18:50 <*> Quits ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] [Quit: Leaving.] 18:51 < PaulFertser> mase76: hm, i think there's only one usb hub and it needs to be present... 18:51 < PaulFertser> mase76: do you have 5V there on your p3mu? 18:52 < PaulFertser> When powered on of course 18:52 < mase76> you mean the vss of the usb port? 18:52 < PaulFertser> Yes 18:52 < PaulFertser> Vdd 18:54 < mase76> no 18:58 < mase76> there isn't any voltage on any pin of the slot. 18:58 < mase76> i think, it is really dead. 19:14 < mase76> i am searching for a free schematic. 19:25 < PaulFertser> mase76: it's linked from our wiki 19:26 < PaulFertser> mase76: on a usb port the only voltage normally present is on the Vdd. 19:26 < PaulFertser> Can you try connecting some self-powered device that surely works without Vdd? 19:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 19:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:35 < mase76> downloading the schematic. but it is somewhat slow. 19:36 < PaulFertser> mase76: if you have problems i can share the file 19:38 < mase76> 10 minutes and 66%. 19:39 < ogra_> its only a tegra2 ... the tegra3 ones will be faster :P 19:42 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: Get Off My Cloud] 19:47 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-lwblwhihxumwzhkk] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p5494394C.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sszymczy [~sszymczy@host-81-190-99-139.gdynia.mm.pl] 20:05 <*> GeneralIdler is now known as Hobbes` 20:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:17 < srwarren> ogra_, it looks like the engineer who tested unity-3d made a mistake; the system fell back to unity-2d and he didn't notice. Hence, he hadn't actually tested unity-3d. 20:24 < |jbrown|> whoops :-p 20:24 < mase76> at least a resistor, i think 0 ohm, is missing to provide the 3,3v on pin 52 of the slot. 20:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 20:28 < mase76> and that was everything! the breakout board works! 20:30 < PaulFertser> mase76: yay! 20:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@85.115.248.113] 20:34 < mase76> and tomorrow my 2-port mini usb hub will arrive. i will disassemble it to make it "smaller" and try, if a bt stick and a usb stick works together. but i think, why not? 20:37 < mase76> i soldered a bridge, i think that resistor is 0 ohm. 20:40 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@85.115.248.113] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:43 < mase76> the ac100 with bt built in, is this a wifi / bt combi module? 20:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@85.115.248.113] 20:54 <*> Quits ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:01 < PaulFertser> mase76: yes, i have an rt2800usb module with bluetooth, all on one single board. 21:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:10 < mase76> so there is no special connector for bt? the block diagram does not show it clearly. 21:14 < PaulFertser> mase76: yes, it's the same usb line as goes to wifi. 21:18 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22 < mase76> but the 2512 is shown as 2-port in the block. 21:27 < PaulFertser> mase76: hm, i'm not that sure anymore, i think probably there're actually two usb lines going to the module, i'll check it when i boot it. 21:28 < mase76> look at page 16 of the schematic. usb is an extra line. but i did not find out, where it goes. 21:30 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178138059.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178138059.adsl.alicedsl.de] 21:43 < mase76> both lines, wifi and bt go to one connector, the one, that ends in the display frame. 21:49 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@85.115.248.113] ["Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)"] 21:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@85.115.248.113] 21:50 < sszymczy> Hi guys, I'm experimenting with linux4tegra 15 armle chroot running on ubuntu 12.10. I managed to run the egl demo successfully, but experienced some problems when trying to run nvgstplayer, it always exits with "Could not decode stream" and "There were insufficient resources to perform the requested operation" messages. In dmesg there's a message: avp_init: Cannot read firmware 'nvrm_avp_8e000000.bin'. Any clue? 21:51 < sszymczy> do I have to use the kernel provided by nvidia to make it working? 21:54 < sszymczy> of course I have the firmware files copied to both host and chroot filesystems just to make sure 21:55 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Long time no see. 16:04 < minimec> I wanted to try the quantal daily build from yesterday. I get an ubiquity error. 16:05 < minimec> I can change to tty1 and a root shell, but I cannot use the fkayboard 16:05 < minimec> Is that a known problem? 16:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3935B.dip.t-dialin.net] 16:22 < mase76> can i run a bt usb stick on the 3,3v? 16:25 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-90-183.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:25 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@195.208.175.17] [Quit: leaving] 16:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-241-0.adsl.inetia.pl] 16:45 < mase76> have a look at page 8 of the schematic. there is a pin usb1_id. low=host and high=client. if it is possible to switch via software, we could turn the mini-usb into hostmode. 16:49 < mase76> and on page 19 there is a gpo pin (107). i think, switching to low there, would turn the mini-usb into hostmode. 16:56 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: torwag_h`, hectorvector 16:57 <*> Netsplit over, joins: hectorvector, torwag_h` 17:07 < marvin24> mase76: that what the otg device is supposed to do 17:08 < mase76> plugging in an otg cable should cause this. 17:09 < mase76> but manual switching would allow a normal usb cable. 17:09 < marvin24> /sys/devices/platform/tegra-otg/enable_host 17:10 < marvin24> (but it doesn't work ;-) 17:11 < mase76> if this doesn't affect this gpo pin, no. 17:14 < marvin24> afaik, there is no platform data for the otg device 17:16 < mase76> manual switching should be possible. or l23 is replaced with 0 ohm. then there is client only. 17:19 < marvin24> the gpio is controlled by the nvec 17:19 < marvin24> and I have no idea how to talk with it 17:19 < marvin24> must be some special command 17:21 < mase76> is that the T20-H-A2 1G_FCBGA 664P on page 8? 17:22 < woglinde> maybee stephen knows 17:23 < mase76> maybe i2c? 17:23 < marvin24> nah, that's toshiba hack 17:24 < marvin24> the nvec is kbd928 17:24 < marvin24> (keyboard contoller) 17:24 < marvin24> t20 is the tegra cpu 17:25 < mase76> ah, it is splitted into more parts. 17:26 < marvin24> yeah, doesn't fit to one page 17:28 < mase76> KB926QFD3_LQFP128_14X14? looks like controlled by i2c. 17:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 17:33 < mase76> KB926QFD3 is a kb controller and LQFP128? 17:35 <*> Quits ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@2pbbogin.zmbh.uni-heidelberg.de] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:42 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052067074.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:45 < mase76> how can i boot with the rootfs on /dev/sda1. i added root=UUID=.... to bootimg.cfg. but i get a kernel panic after flashing the kernel. 17:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052067074.adsl.alicedsl.de] 18:00 <*> Quits ->lenios_ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-65-234.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] 18:18 < marvin24> mase76: maybe no usb-storage compiled in 18:18 < mase76> as module. 18:19 < marvin24> I think it's not autoloaded 18:19 < marvin24> the initrd is kept small 18:20 < mase76> modules=most 18:21 < ogra_> thats definitely wrong 18:21 < ogra_> and not what the ubuntu installer sets 18:21 < mase76> with dep, also my system from emmc does not boot (kernel panic). with most, it works. 18:23 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052067074.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:23 < ogra_> cant be, there is nothing modular that the kernel would need to find the rootfs 18:24 < ogra_> everything thats important for booting is compiled in afaik 18:24 < ogra_> (unless jani changed that recently) 18:24 < mase76> i used the config of quantal as base. 18:25 < ogra_> well, find out which module it is, add it to /etc/initramfs/modules and rebuild the initrd ... but keep =dep 18:25 < ogra_> most will not boot 18:25 < marvin24> mase76: paz00_diag_set_usb in drivers/paz00/paz00-diag.c is used to switch mode 18:25 < minimec> ogra_: Hi. There seems to be a bug in ubiquity-installer in the daily build from yesterday. It fails with 'missing window-manager'. I can install and use the alpha3 build from 26-07-2012. Do you want me to file a bug for that in 'ac100 enablement' on launchpad? 18:25 < ogra_> oh, and file a bug that we include the module :) 18:26 < ogra_> minimec, as of yesterday all non §d desktop bits were dropped from ubuntu ... 18:26 < ogra_> 3D 18:26 < ogra_> dont file a bug, i have to find a way to get us another desktop on the images ;) 18:27 < minimec> ogra_: Ok. I see... THX 18:30 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 18:32 < mase76> i added only ext4 to modules. does not boot. 18:32 < mase76> tegra part etc is set to y. 18:33 < ogra_> how big is yur initrd ? 18:33 < ogra_> >2M will not boot 18:33 < mase76> smaller 18:35 < minimec> ogra_: Will the gnome-panel package still be maintained? It is still available in the repos... 18:36 < mase76> what does ubuntu have in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules? 18:36 < ogra_> minimec, no idea, i'm not in the ubuntu-desktop team :) 18:36 < ogra_> mase76, nothing usually 18:38 < minimec> ogra_: Ok. We will see. I use the panel in combination with the e17 desktop. 18:43 < mase76> with most i have an initrd of 3.2mb. and it boots. 18:45 < mase76> lsmod of the running system shows nothing special. 18:49 < mase76> i had the same problem not a long time ago. changing to most fixed it. but i am not happy with it. 18:50 < ogra_> well, it is pretyt weird that you seem to be the only person who can boot a >2M initrd 18:51 < mase76> and the only one who can't with dep. 18:52 < mase76> as i said, i took the config from the quantal kernel and added only my dvb-stick. 18:53 < ogra_> i thought jani added that in the last build 18:53 < mase76> but i think, i have to build a new one with usb-mass-storage compiled in. that should be enough for an usb-stick rootfs. 18:54 < mase76> and the msdos-fs 18:54 < ogra_> wait you boot from usb ? 18:54 < mase76> not yet. 18:54 < mase76> that is my final goal. first i have to boot from emmc with dep. 18:54 < ogra_> well, yeah, but i missed that part ... indeed you need all the usb subsystem bits 18:55 < ogra_> did you try to put usb-storage and sd into the modules file and use dep ? 18:55 < mase76> i tried usb-mass-storage in the modules file. 18:56 < ogra_> not sure if the module is called like that 18:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 18:56 < mase76> blk-dev-sd 18:56 < mase76> is compiled in. 18:57 < ogra_> but if you panic you land in an initrd shell, you should be able to mount the rootfs and load single modules until you see the USB disk 18:57 < mase76> no, the system halts. 18:57 < ogra_> before starting the initrd ? 18:57 < ogra_> then you have a kernel prob 18:59 < mase76> but with "most" it boots. 19:00 ogra_ wonders if you are actually using the initrd you have in /boot 19:00 < ogra_> how do you push it to the bootloader partition ? 19:01 < mase76> with flash-kernel. i had to put symlinks in / to boot/vmlinuz... and initrd.img... 19:01 < mase76> first i execute update-initramfs -u 19:02 < ogra_> are you on quantal ? 19:02 < mase76> debian wheezy. 19:02 < ogra_> (i.e. using flash-kernel 3.0) 19:03 < mase76> this one: http://people.debian.org/~jak/ac100/pool/main/f/flash-kernel/ 19:03 < mase76> all other did not flash anything. 19:08 < ogra_> you can just use abootim plain :) 19:08 < ogra_> abootimg 19:09 < ogra_> especially if you only update the initrd over and over 19:09 < mase76> that i also tried when i had the same problem a few weeks ago. 19:09 < ogra_> abootimg -u /dev/mmcblk0p2 -r 19:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@178.237.190.89] 19:10 < ogra_> (though check with abootimg -i /dev/mmcblk0p2 if thats actually the right one for your model) 19:13 < mase76> kernel size 3.26mb, ramdisk size 1.6mb. 19:14 < mase76> is the load address of the ramdisk 0x12000000 correct? 19:14 < ogra_> wow, thats a huge kernel 19:14 < mase76> gzip used 19:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:16 < mase76> the precise kernel has 3mb. 19:16 < ogra_> less, since we default to lzma :) 19:16 < ogra_> (in ubuntu that is) 19:19 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@178.237.190.89] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 19:20 < mase76> the load address is correct? 19:20 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.112.102.35] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:20 < marvin24> mase76: looks fine 19:21 < mase76> i rebuild with lzma compression. and everything for usb-mass-storage was compiled in. 19:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 19:25 < mase76> i rebuild the kernel and see... 19:28 < mase76> does ubuntu have lzma or xz-lzma installed? 19:31 < ogra_> ogra@anubis:~$ lz 19:31 < ogra_> lz lzcat lzcmp lzdiff lzegrep lzfgrep lzgrep lzless lzma lzmainfo lzmore 19:31 < ogra_> ogra@anubis:~$ xz 19:31 < ogra_> xz xzcat xzcmp xzdiff xzegrep xzfgrep xzgrep xzless xzmore 19:31 < ogra_> both ;) 19:34 <*> Quits ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:56 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: Get Off My Cloud] 20:05 <*> Quits ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] [Quit: Leaving.] 20:15 <*> Quits ->Hobbes` [~calvin@2001:4b98:dc0:47:216:3eff:fe18:5d33] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Hobbes` [~calvin@2001:4b98:dc0:47:216:3eff:fe18:5d33] 20:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->svp [~svp@79.120.24.66] 20:31 < mase76> you also have webcam trouble when nv driver is installed? when doing a videocall in linphone, the desktop freezes. when nv driver is deinstalled, it works. 20:32 < mase76> but there are no problems when recording the webcam with ffmpeg. even with nv driver installed. 20:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gg [~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net] 20:42 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-aedywxnmfxuofutj] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:51 < mase76> marvin24: i cannot find paz00-diag.c. is it in the r15 kernel? 20:52 < mase76> do you have an idea, how we can make that call? 21:07 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Quit: leaving] 21:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225166072.adsl.alicedsl.de] 21:44 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->balrog-k2n [~balrog@211-goc-32.acn.waw.pl] 21:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 21:59 < mase76> ogra_: the lzma compressed kernel also panics, even with most. 22:07 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15 < mase76> could there be a problem with the decompression when using lzma? 22:24 < woglinde> could be 22:24 < woglinde> where does it panic? 22:24 < woglinde> not finding root device? 22:25 < mase76> cannot see any clear message. only a trace. 22:25 < woglinde> hm okay 22:25 < woglinde> than is proably something else 22:26 < mase76> i wonder, update-initramfs -u also creates an empty file 3.1.10-1-ac100 in / 22:26 < marvin24> mase76: in the original source (from .32 kernel) 22:26 < marvin24> if I have time, I can add it to nvec-paz00.c 22:27 < mase76> no i built the r15 kernel with make-kpkg. 22:27 < mase76> marvin24: and how to call it? 22:28 < marvin24> you can hardcode it or (the nice way) via sysfs 22:29 < mase76> i prefer the nice way. on the other side, the clientmode is only used with nvflash, isn't it? no further function in linux. 22:31 < marvin24> sometime like nvec_write_async(nvec, "\x0d\x10\x45\xd4", 4) 22:31 < marvin24> should enable usb host 22:31 < marvin24> and xd3 should set device mode 22:32 < marvin24> the client can be used as an ethernet connection, a serial port and even a storage device 22:32 < mase76> kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init! 22:32 < mase76> nothing more to see, only some dumps. 22:32 < marvin24> yeah, no root fs 22:33 < mase76> i only changed the compression from gzip to lzma. 22:34 < mase76> also in initramfs.conf. 22:34 < marvin24> is it also enabled in the kernel? 22:34 < mase76> both, dep and most don't work. 22:34 < mase76> with gzip, only most worked. 22:34 < mase76> the rest of the kernel config is identical. 22:40 < mase76> where does that empty file come from? 22:47 < mase76> most and lzma in initramfs.conf also panics. most and gzip works. but it is a 3.3mb initrd. 22:48 < mase76> lzma is enabled in the kernel, same as in quantal. 22:55 < mase76> there is an kernel option "initramfs_compression_lzma", which is explained as built in. it is greyed out. 22:57 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] 23:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 23:22 < mase76> i had no busybox-static installed. i rety... 23:37 < mase76> it works! the missing busybox-static package was the problem. --- Day changed Sat Aug 18 2012 00:47 <*> Quits ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] 01:06 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3935B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] 01:33 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] [Quit: leaving] 03:27 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178132006.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 04:33 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225166072.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 05:38 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.112.102.35] 07:01 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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19:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 19:28 < PaulFertser> marvin24: i have internal bluetooth. 19:28 < PaulFertser> marvin24: well, usb host controller + btusb + bluetooth are the needed modules. 19:31 < marvin24> so btusb is enough? 19:31 < marvin24> rfcomm and bnep? 19:31 < marvin24> maybe also 19:32 < PaulFertser> marvin24: rfcomm and bnep would be needed for some bluetooth functionality for any dongle, not only the integrated. 19:32 < marvin24> I'm looking for a minimal config 19:32 < marvin24> to support the hw 19:33 < marvin24> I wonder if it makes sense without these protocols 19:34 < PaulFertser> Well, bluetooth module can be used for bluetooth networking or can be not used for that. It can be used for SCO and/or A2DP or can be not used. A usb host controller can be used to connect an external bluetooth dongle or can be not used for that too... 19:34 < PaulFertser> So hw support is a bit of a fuzzy term imho. 19:35 < PaulFertser> I'd certainly include a2dp, sco, bnep, rfcomm functionality. 19:35 < PaulFertser> hidp too, for external wireless keyboard or mouse. 19:36 < marvin24> rfcomm is for networking I guess 19:36 < marvin24> and bnep? 19:36 < PaulFertser> marvin24: rfcomm is like raw serial over bluetooth. It's needed as a lower layer for many protocols. 19:37 < PaulFertser> E.g. SCO (bidirectional sound), obexftp, etc. 19:38 < PaulFertser> bnep is specifically bluetooth networking (to run tcp/ip over it). 19:38 < marvin24> ok, thanks 19:38 < marvin24> I think networking and hid are the most useful ones 19:39 < PaulFertser> I do not often see bluetooth networking used. 19:39 < PaulFertser> I see mostly obexftp transfers to/from cellphones. 19:39 < PaulFertser> Also, internet access over bluetooth (ppp over rfcomm). 19:40 < PaulFertser> (some cellphones do provide bnep networking access but some do not and most people are using ppp afaict) 19:40 < PaulFertser> The other common usecase is using a stereoheadset via A2DP. 19:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mnk0 [~mnk0@host-92-24-63-26.ppp.as43234.net] 19:59 < mnk0> heyy 20:00 < mnk0> why do i get a choopy slow video playback - 12.04 20:12 < marvin24> oh, you get video playback? 20:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 21:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052235001.adsl.alicedsl.de] 21:01 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:04 < mase76> marvin24: and remeber avrcp, the bt remote control protocol, also used by many headsets. 21:07 < mase76> the internal usb stick made the system very slow. the specifications say, that it is faster than the emmc. prepared the stick as described here: http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Toshiba/AC100 21:07 < mase76> i returned to my system on the emmc and use the built in stick as extra storage. 21:08 < mase76> seems that only an usb ssd is useful as root partition. 21:09 < mase76> PaulFertser: how good is the coexistence of wifi and bt on the ac100? no wifi problems? 21:10 < woglinde> mase76 seems to be fixed with later rt2x00 drivers 21:10 < PaulFertser> mase76: tbh, no idea at all, i've never tried using those simultaneously. Probably i should. I'm using some compat-wireless version of course. 21:11 < woglinde> and I have no bt version 21:11 < mase76> i tought about building in a mini usb bt-stick into device, or without the case into the display frame. but i don't know, where to get the 5v vdd. the empty line contains only 3,3v. and a bt wakeup instead of ground. ok, getting ground is no problem. 21:12 < woglinde> hm why vt needs 5V? 21:12 < woglinde> ups bt 21:12 < mase76> the vdd for usb. 21:12 < mase76> i am talking about a normal bt usb-stick. 21:13 < mase76> but plugging in the stick on demand is the better solution. 21:14 < mase76> maybe i enable the hostmode for the mini usb by hardware. or is there any usecase for the clientmode other than nvflash? 21:15 < mase76> marvin24: or do you think, you get it by software? 21:27 < marvin24> mase76: you can try to add the command I posted yesterday to nvec.c 21:27 < marvin24> but I still wonder what the otg device is for in this case 21:43 < PaulFertser> mase76: btw, i think the intergrated solution i have here should have some bt-coex embedded inside, it's probably a direct wire connecting one pin of bt ic to some pin or rt2800 ic. With external bluetooth it won't be the case irregardless of what you do and what drivers you install. So the performance will most probably suffer. 21:51 < mase76> marvin24: it is for siply adding a second usb port. very useful. but i think, a special otg cable is not needed there. a simply mini usb cable may be enough. devices which need that special otg cable switch automatically to hostmode, when it is plugged in. and as clientmode isn't used in normal usage, it could be enabled at boot time, or set up in a simple config file. 21:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-82-9.21-151.libero.it] 22:03 < mase76> and how to call that command? i forgot. 22:09 < mase76> clientmode would only be useful, when using as mass storage device connected to an other pc. 22:15 < woglinde> use irc log 22:16 < woglinde> nvec_write_async(nvec, "\x0d\x10\x45\xd4", 4) 22:17 < woglinde> 21:31 < marvin24> should enable usb host 22:17 < woglinde> 21:31 < marvin24> and xd3 should set device mode 22:18 < PaulFertser> clientmode could also be used to establish ethernet-like wired networking. 22:18 < mase76> yes, but how to call from the os? 22:19 < PaulFertser> mase76: what do you mean? On the device side you load g_ether module, on the host side cdc_ether will get auto-loaded, you'll get usb0 on both sides of the link, configure as any other ethernet interface. 22:19 < PaulFertser> Ah, calling nvec. 22:19 < PaulFertser> mase76: i used systemtap for that :) 22:19 < mase76> PaulFertser: right, but usb networking is not implemented, isn't it? 22:19 < mase76> systemtab? 22:20 < PaulFertser> mase76: usb networking will work as soon a udc (device controller) driver works. 22:20 < PaulFertser> There's even some information about using systemtap on our wiki. 22:47 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] 22:52 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:10 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178129009.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 23:39 < mase76> systemtap is too high for me. but switching should also be possible with smbus. but ic2detect does not detect any i2c busses. 23:42 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] 23:43 < mase76> ups! forgot to load i2c-dev. now i get 4 busses, all called Tegra I2C adapter. --- Day changed Sun Aug 19 2012 00:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hanno [~hanno@91-66-80-242-dynip.superkabel.de] 00:00 < hanno> Hi, nvflash is stuck at "waiting for bootloader to initialize", anyone know that and knows what to do? 00:21 < mase76> which is the smbus for nvec, 0, 1, 2 or 4? 00:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] 00:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] 00:42 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: No route to host] 00:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] 01:06 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:06 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD39917.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] 01:18 < mnk0> hello 01:20 < woglinde> yes? 01:27 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-82-9.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:37 < mnk0> whazup 01:38 < minimec> playing around with the ac100 01:39 < mnk0> nice 01:39 < mnk0> what you running on it? 01:39 < mnk0> i have issues with.. video playback 01:40 < minimec> mnk0: Well this is a known problem with the ac100 and ubuntu... Blame it on nvidia... 01:40 < minimec> mnk0: I managed to get a android 4.0 / ubuntu precise dualboot. So I play video on android... 01:41 < mnk0> oh wow 01:41 < mnk0> but.. ive seen so many videos on youtube of 1080playback 01:41 < minimec> mnk0: Indeed wow.. I was surprised as you 01:41 < woglinde> tegra2 can not really do 1080 01:42 < mnk0> low bitrate 01:42 < mnk0> heck id be happy with 480 01:42 < woglinde> minimec what are you using for dualboot? 01:42 < woglinde> older 2.1 bootldr? 01:43 < mnk0> andoid 4.0 is nice? 01:43 < mnk0> what about skype../? 01:44 < minimec> woglinde: well I use the android 4.0 images (based on cyanogen9) Android is sitting on part5, ubuntu on part6. So I can continue to use the ubuntu images provided by ogra_ (and team), as normal. 01:44 < mnk0> hmm 01:45 < minimec> woglinde: http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/ac100-rom-development/3562-android-4-0-toshiba-ac100-firmware-review-installation-ice-cream-sandvich-4-0-a-25.html 01:45 < mnk0> so there is updated ubuntu images? 01:45 < minimec> woglinde: They are able to use 2.1 bootloader with android 4.0 01:47 < woglinde> the update manager updates your ubuntu too 01:47 < minimec> woglinde: It's really amazing. It works flawlessly. 01:47 < woglinde> sure 01:47 < woglinde> but I will not go back to bootldr 2.1 01:48 < minimec> woglinde: I see no problem with it. You just downgrade part 2+4 and use some install software to put android 4.0 on the internal partitions. Ubuntu is on SD card. 01:51 < minimec> mnk0: Skype is running on android including cam. 01:52 < mnk0> ahh 01:52 < mnk0> tahts what i need then. 01:52 < mnk0> so i can just use update manaager/ 01:52 < mnk0> if i can apt-cache search for apps 01:52 < mnk0> ? 01:54 < minimec> mnk0: What do you mean? You get a full ubuntu install on the ac100, with some hardware limitations. But 'ubuntu usage' is the same as on a normal desktop. 01:56 < minimec> mnk0: Without skype on ubuntu, because there is no arm(hf) version for skype. 02:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] 02:06 < mase_76> either we must add a custom syscall (i don't know, how to add one to call a module function), or we create a new block device in nvec that implements the syscall. the second solution would be more powerful, as we could control other things in nvec. 02:08 < mnk0> minimec: ah i duno, just that some apps arent available for the arm architecture 02:08 < mnk0> id be so happy with skype ;) 02:08 < mnk0> and gmail plugin thing working 02:19 < mase_76> is that the correct way to add a char device? http://linuxgazette.net/125/mishra.html 02:19 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 02:33 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 02:48 <*> Quits ->hanno [~hanno@91-66-80-242-dynip.superkabel.de] [Quit: Verlassend] 03:07 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:20 <*> Quits ->mnk0 [~mnk0@host-92-24-63-26.ppp.as43234.net] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:34 <*> Quits ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 03:40 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052235001.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 04:35 <*> Quits ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:42 <*> Quits ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 06:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.112.102.35] 08:05 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-161-18.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-67-119.adsl.inetia.pl] 08:15 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.112.102.35] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178136057.adsl.alicedsl.de] 11:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052067188.adsl.alicedsl.de] 11:24 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-67-119.adsl.inetia.pl] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-166-207.adsl.inetia.pl] 11:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] 11:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 11:47 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 12:19 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052067188.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052067188.adsl.alicedsl.de] 13:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 13:23 <*> Quits ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:27 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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:D 14:26 < mase76> i am trying to add a char device. 14:28 < marvin24> no no 14:28 < marvin24> just add a sysfs attr to nvec.c 14:28 < marvin24> that's much easier 14:29 < mase76> any documentation about this? 14:33 < marvin24> well, I would try in Documentation folder of the kernel source 14:35 <*> Quits ->Vandroy [~quassel@81-174-41-31.v4.ngi.it] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy [~quassel@81-174-41-31.v4.ngi.it] 15:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 16:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 16:30 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: torwag_h`, hectorvector 16:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 16:46 < marvin24> mase76: something like this: http://pastebin.com/eYNqrXSR 16:47 < marvin24> and no, it doesn't work 16:47 < marvin24> maybe sw bug, maybe hw bug 16:48 < marvin24> yeah, already found one ;-) 17:05 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-60-118.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-35-180.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 17:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->torwag_h` [~user@softbank126064095045.bbtec.net] 17:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-251-177.adsl.inetia.pl] 17:27 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-251-177.adsl.inetia.pl] [Quit: .] 17:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.112.102.35] 17:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-251-177.adsl.inetia.pl] 17:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.142] 17:41 < rpiloose> hi all, hi marvin24, may you help me? 17:42 < rpiloose> between this line http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec.c#L295 17:42 < rpiloose> and this line http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec.c#L296 17:42 < rpiloose> it seems we loose this 'mutex_unlock(&nvec->sync_write_mutex);' 17:53 < mase76> marvin24: what does not work? the function call or the switching itself? 18:24 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 18:30 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.142] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:32 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.112.102.35] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.142] 18:33 < mase76> marvin24: i measure no 5v vdd at the port. maybe switching works, but without vdd no hostmode. do you have a y-usb-cable to provide the 5v? 18:38 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.142] [] 18:48 < marvin24> no 18:48 < marvin24> my main problem is that the even the device mode doesn't work 18:48 < marvin24> so unless this is fixed, we may not think about host mode 18:49 < marvin24> mase76: on the other hand, someone reported working device mode on 3.1 kernel a few commits ago 18:55 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-251-177.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-56-176.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:20 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: No route to host] 19:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@178.237.190.89] 19:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:32 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178136057.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 19:47 < mase76> marvin24: yes, i also tried it. does not work. but i am still not sure with the 5v. maybe a hw modification will also be necessary. 19:48 < marvin24> mase76: the xd4 needs to be \xd4 19:48 < marvin24> but that doesn't change anything 19:49 < mase76> too bad. 19:51 < marvin24> 5v should be there 19:51 < marvin24> at least from the schematics 19:52 < mase76> not sure. it is a bit different from the normal usb port. 19:53 < mase76> but i think, this is the rightt way. 20:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052067188.adsl.alicedsl.de] 20:22 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] 21:25 <*> Quits ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] [Quit: Leaving] 21:51 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58 < mase76> marvin24: do you think, hardcoding the command would do the switch? just for testing. 22:10 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052067188.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:12 < marvin24> the patch i posted should do this 22:12 < marvin24> it creates a file in /sys/devices/platform/nvec.2/ 22:13 < marvin24> which you can write to (1 -> enable, others -> disable) 22:20 < mase76> i tried it, but it did not work. the 1 is not kept, and the mode did not switch. i tried a y cable to make sure, getting 5v vdd. 22:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178136057.adsl.alicedsl.de] 23:02 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-82-9.21-151.libero.it] 23:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052067188.adsl.alicedsl.de] 23:36 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] [Quit: leaving] 23:37 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Quit: Leaving.] 23:47 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.142] 23:49 < rpiloose> marvin24: http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/commit/e289e6fdc1e24395c7da25e889650a0a2ecdd6bf 23:49 < rpiloose> marvin24: THX! :-) 23:50 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.142] [] --- Day changed Mon Aug 20 2012 00:02 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B80B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10 <*> Quits ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178136057.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 00:43 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 00:47 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] 00:57 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052067188.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:01 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-82-9.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 02:17 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@178.237.190.89] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 05:06 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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i thought its just about the SoC? 13:40 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i don't really like that tranformer-things 13:41 < paultrafalgar> no just wishfull thinking 13:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> sl101 was nice 13:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but thos tf are stupid 13:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> either you carry the keyboard around or you don't 13:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> if you do, then its a worse sollution then having a "normal" keyboard 13:42 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> if you don't, then you have no useable inputdevice 13:42 < paultrafalgar> keyboard protects screen when carrying 13:42 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well yes.. but it's additional weight compared with a notebook-like sollution 13:43 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and using one battery to charge another one is plainly stupid 13:43 < paultrafalgar> and double the battery 13:43 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i just want something like an 'ac200' with usable specs 13:44 < paultrafalgar> u mean ac200 tablet? 13:44 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> wha? 13:44 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> no, i don't mean tablet 13:44 < paultrafalgar> wazza ac200 13:44 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i mean another smartbook/netbook 13:44 < zombah> ac100 with more ram 8) 13:45 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> exactly 13:45 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and maybe with a non-nvidia-SoC 13:45 < paultrafalgar> much better processor 13:45 < paultrafalgar> exynos5 13:45 < phh> paultrafalgar: tegra2 is enough ... 13:45 < phh> but i agree with Dr_Azrael_Tod though. 13:45 < phh> well, i'm not sure samsung is better 13:45 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> having esata or more then 1 usb-port wouldn't hurt either 13:46 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i still think those marvell armada1500 sound best 13:46 < phh> err, it's still arm11 no ? 13:46 < ogra_> try imx6 13:46 < ogra_> armada is v7 13:47 < ogra_> there are some you can make run in a v6 mode though 13:47 < phh> ah right they only use the architecture, not ip 13:47 < phh> but iirc marvell's proc's perf suck 13:48 < phh> compared to cortex-a 13:48 < paultrafalgar> ogra wassa imx6? 13:48 < ogra_> the armada is pretty slick 13:48 < ogra_> paultrafalgar, freescale 13:48 < ogra_> goodle for mx6 sabrelite for example 13:48 < ogra_> *google even 13:48 < paultrafalgar> better than latest mali t604 or whatever 13:49 < paultrafalgar> ? 13:50 < ogra_> dunno about the graphics performance, i only use my mx6 as builder 13:50 < ogra_> but it comes with sata, quad-core 1.5GHz and 1G ram 13:51 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> uh.. that one sounds nice 13:51 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but a bit high pricetag 13:51 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> on the other hand it's a developer-device 13:54 < paultrafalgar> dev device not equivalent to finished product 13:54 <*> Quits ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> of course 13:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] 13:55 <*> Quits ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] 13:55 < zombah> http://www.pandawill.com/h6-10-inch-notebook-android-403-1g-ram-4gb-laptop-pc-black-p65515.html 13:57 < phh> yeah well, it's an A10 ... 13:57 < phh> hum, table says 512MB ram 13:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-ienzhqyglemlzdcq] 14:00 < paultrafalgar> better price:http://www.hootablet.com/h6-10-inch-notebook-android-403-1g-ram-4gb-laptop-pc-black-p-170.html 14:01 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=296 14:01 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> pretty much the same thing 14:01 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but 1GB RAM 14:02 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> then again: rikomagic is known for gpl-violations 14:02 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> so that is maybe a no-go 14:03 < zombah> reviews says this h6 has 1gb ram 14:03 < phh> well, amlogic's dual cortex-a9 are incoming 14:04 < phh> and amlogic has proper linux support iirc 14:04 < ogra_> and there is omap5 too 14:04 < phh> ogra_: noone will make a smartbook from it :( 14:04 < ogra_> how do you know ? :) 14:04 < ogra_> there were smartbooks made out of pandaboards 14:05 < phh> uh ? link ? 14:05 < ogra_> ask pprplague in #pandaboard, he produced a few i think :) 14:05 < paultrafalgar> a9 is old tech cf a15 14:06 < phh> paultrafalgar: again cortex-a9 is powerful enough ... 14:07 < ogra_> a9 is as good as a small dektop pc 14:07 < paultrafalgar> ac100 cant do video rendering 14:07 < ogra_> i manage to build the ubuntu omap4 kernel package in under 100min ... takes ~5h on a pandaboard 14:07 < ogra_> ac100 can do video rendering just fine 14:07 < ogra_> if you use android ;) 14:08 < paultrafalgar> i will not use android! 14:08 < zombah> 8) 14:08 < phh> ogra_: "just fine" if you play only 480p videos or poorly encoded 720p videos ... 14:09 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-56-176.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:09 < paultrafalgar> when are audaciy vlc and xine going to work on ac100? 14:10 < paultrafalgar> *audacity even 14:10 < ogra_> they work ? 14:10 < zombah> any 720p run well, why poor encoded? 14:10 < paultrafalgar> not here they dont 14:10 < ogra_> if you use the x11 backend they will surely work 14:11 < zombah> i ran all clips from here http://www.h264info.com/clips.html all fine 14:11 < ogra_> its not a matter of these apps ... 14:11 < paultrafalgar> how is that done? 14:11 < ogra_> its a matter of the codecs in the l4t package from nvidia 14:11 < ogra_> dunno, how thats done, look in the config howtos for the specific apps 14:12 < ogra_> x11 rendering will alwayss work, everywhere ... as long as your xserver works 14:12 < phh> zombah: just take any clip "from the internet" like tv shows 14:12 < phh> iirc it's because they don't handle in hardware one of H264 feature used by x264 14:13 < phh> so for real-world videos, it's doing (mostly?) software deecoding 14:13 < zombah> phh: hm i tried also couple xvid coded series, fine also 14:13 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and a matter of "do i want that nvidia-binary-blob?" 14:13 < phh> zombah: xvid. ok. 14:14 < phh> Dr_Azrael_Tod: give me a single SoC that doesn't need a binary blob for video ? 14:14 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well of course 14:14 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i know of none 14:14 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> even worse if you really want to USE that 14:15 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> or if it should have usable RAM or SATA 14:16 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-184-220.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 14:16 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but that doesn't mean i shouldn't look for something like that 14:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->shadoweel_ [c5ed20ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.237.32.236] 14:25 <*> Quits ->shadoweel_ [c5ed20ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.237.32.236] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->shadoweel [~johan@197.237.32.236] 14:36 < zombah> just noticed that 1080p h264 also run fine 14:39 < PaulFertser> fuck, and i can't even watch downloaded coursera lectures on mine... 14:44 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: nvidia just hints you to read books instead :) 14:44 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: lol, right :) 14:45 < Alex[sp3dev]> imho samsung exynos is nicer than tegra. for one, it is fully mainlined, including framebuffer and v4l2 camera. and also chances are an open mali driver will be ready one day 14:50 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: well, the thing is that my ac100 is there live and kicking, cheap, with umts module and everything, i use it extensively, and also enjoy its UART :) 14:51 ogra_ doesnt want to travel with anything else since he has his 14:51 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well 14:51 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: the thing is that I have an x86 laptop :) 14:52 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i see ac100-prices rising the last year 14:52 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: btw, I've soldered the cable and now have uart on both sgs2 and gnex 14:52 < ogra_> i haver three of them though, that means i always have two charged spare battery packs with me :) 14:52 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i've not seen a single 10u to buy in germany for months 14:52 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: (cable) yeah, i've seen your message, congratulations :) 14:53 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: ac100 is lighter power-wise, and weights less. 14:53 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and even those 10v arent aviable for sub-100€ anymore 14:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-251-217.adsl.inetia.pl] 14:53 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: android is a whole bugged crapola. after updating from 4.0 to 4.1 we're having numerous bugs with ril and I haven't tracked down the nasty bug when making a call after a cold boot causes freeze. a 500ms delay sort of hides it, but not in all cases 14:54 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: well, it's off-topic, I'm just sick of it right now :) 14:54 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: yeah, i understand your pain. 14:54 < PaulFertser> btw, zombah here messes with android on ac100 too, i've no idea why though :) 14:55 < ogra_> PaulFertser, the same reason why i roll ubuntu images ... 14:55 < ogra_> ... because we can ;) 14:58 < zombah> mbm-ril seems to work fine with 4.1 14:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-65-234.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr] 14:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@2pbbogin.zmbh.uni-heidelberg.de] 15:00 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> in a perfect world someone would build real arm-notebooks with a sub-800€ pricetag 15:02 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> like including eSATA, Ethernet, >3xUSB, >=4GB RAM, running 10h without charging and with sub 1kg weight 15:03 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ...and then i wake up 15:03 < Alex[sp3dev]> in a perfect world you would be able to print the whole device on a sub-200$ printer 15:03 < Alex[sp3dev]> no, I don't want to wake up, but we'll yet have to sleep for a couple decades 15:04 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well... but the technology for my dream exists 15:04 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> its there 15:06 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> you could assemble it yourself if you woul like to spend some K€, dissassemble multiple devices and solder it yourself with inhuman precision 15:06 < Alex[sp3dev]> Dr_Azrael_Tod: it would be amazing if an A15 laptop with free 3d graphics was released. 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whats the latest news? 21:11 <*> Quits ->longpig [~bert@2001:bd0:100::49] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:28 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-63-226.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@62.122.240.155] 21:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-244-39.adsl.inetia.pl] 21:50 <*> Quits ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:23 < scoopr> http://www.baserock.com 22:23 < scoopr> no price :/ 22:32 < arune> I just installed 12.04 on my ac100 (it's been in a drawer for some time) 22:32 < arune> it works great 22:33 < arune> a lot of improvement (like two finger scroll etc) but it also seems more stable 22:34 < arune> installation was also super smooth, (I guess it was also in 11.10 when I last installed, but its way better than the first images years ago) 22:35 < phh> really ? 22:35 < phh> i might give it a try then 22:36 < scoopr> what was the status of the nvidia driver? 22:36 < srwarren> which driver? 22:37 < phh> "you know the main one!" :D 22:38 < arune> srwarren: do you have the ac100? 22:39 < srwarren> Well, there are the L4T drivers and the tegra-drm driver for Tegra, and many for non-Tegra ... 22:39 < phh> srwarren: i was being ironical you know ? 22:40 < srwarren> Yes, I have an AC100 22:40 < srwarren> ah, difficult to tell over IRC:-) 22:40 < phh> well, there was the quotes and the simley, i tried to be explicit, pfff 22:40 < arune> srwarren: also phh is french 22:41 < arune> <- ironic... 22:41 < phh> what ? i am french 22:41 < scoopr> well, I'm mostly interested in the gles2-variety 22:42 < srwarren> OK, well L4T R15 includes a gles2 driver 22:42 < arune> oh, yes, middle click also works now! 22:42 < phh> arune: ah that's great ! 22:42 < arune> (and caps locks led) 22:43 < scoopr> I have a really old version, like from year ago, and it tends to corrupt all text in X occasionally :P 22:43 < phh> same thing + crashes when launching awesome :D 22:45 < scoopr> can't be arsed to upgrade right now.. and when I do, the latest ubuntu and l4t abi versions are bound to disagree again ;) 22:46 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@62.122.240.155] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53 < |jbrown|> scoopr: AFAIK that bug's not fixed. 22:53 < phh> pfff ... great ... 22:56 < |jbrown|> guess we'll just have to wait for (somebody-or-other's) tegra reverse-engineering effort to come to fruition, eh? 23:18 < marvin24> there will be an official drm driver 23:18 < marvin24> no need to RE 23:20 < marvin24> ubuntu 12.04 uses abi 12 and you need the proper kernel (3.1) and nvidia driver (r15) 23:20 < marvin24> or you try out my for-next branch which is mainline kernel + experimental tegra drm 23:22 < srwarren> marvin24, talking of that, how much work do you think getting your for-next running on e.g. Seaboard woud be? Just a matter of adding the appropriate panel definition? 23:23 < marvin24> srwarren: you needs some edid info 23:23 < marvin24> I just created one with some windows program 23:23 < srwarren> I have that, or can create it I think 23:24 < marvin24> that was all I think 23:24 < marvin24> the display does not initialize (missing pwm) 23:24 < srwarren> Hmmm. Sounds tempting. I'm trying to set up a Seaboard to take nots on at LinuxCon. 23:24 < srwarren> Oh. 23:24 < marvin24> so we still need fastboot to switch it on 23:24 < marvin24> but I guess there is no fastboot on seaboard 23:24 < srwarren> s/nots/notes/ 23:25 < mase76> marvin24: no need to care about usb hostmode any more. 23:25 < marvin24> mase76: gave up? 23:25 < srwarren> Probably not, although the HW is close enough to Ventana it might work well enough. I'm trying not to get rid of upstream U-Boot so I can dual-boot eMMC for full Ubuntu to take notes, or SD card for upstream kernel testing 23:26 < marvin24> srwarren: what happend to the u-boot display support patches btw? 23:26 < mase76> i opened my device again today and examined at least the top side. there are electrical elements missing. the board has to be modified to get it to work. 23:26 < srwarren> I think they're waiting on Simon to have some time (since he's doing it in spare time IIRC) plus for the bindings in the kernel to finalize so they don't diverge in U-Boot 23:27 < marvin24> srwarren: yes, all the discussions about the proper DT syntax take a long time 23:30 < mase76> look at page 8 of the schematics.you see it on the upper right of that page. these diodes are missing. i guess, that all modifications to lock on clientmode are made by toshiba. 23:32 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AE55.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AE55.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:34 < srwarren> marvin24, is it just the PWM itself that's missing, so if I poke a couple registers to turn it on, that's it, or is there more? 23:36 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36 < srwarren> I also notice there's a carveout property in the graphics node. Doesn't that require a matching /memreserve/, or does the driver reserve that memory itself? 23:51 < marvin24> srwarren: you also need to poke some gpios (vdd_bl, vdd_panel, ...) 23:51 < marvin24> srwarren: the carveout is beeing reseved in the board file (at the end) 23:51 < marvin24> tegra_mem_reserve or so 23:52 < srwarren> Oh, you're not booting using DT? 23:52 < marvin24> sure I do 23:53 < marvin24> now I also wonder where it is reserved ;-) 23:54 < marvin24> srwarren: the dts has a carveout property 23:55 < srwarren> marvin24, so that tells the display driver what memory to use, but what tells the kernel not to use that for anything else? 23:55 < |jbrown|> marvin24: oh, interesting... what does a drm driver provide, exactly? I think later versions of the SGX drivers allegedly provided one, but I could never get it working... 23:56 < marvin24> srwarren: maybe the graphics driver reserves it during boot 23:56 < marvin24> |jbrown|: nothing more than a framebuffer I think 23:56 < |jbrown|> marvin24: how's that better than the existing framebuffer driver? 23:57 < marvin24> |jbrown|: there is no tegrafb on mainline 23:57 < |jbrown|> oh, right. 23:57 < marvin24> srwarren: http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/blobs/for-next/arch/arm/boot/dts/tegra20-paz00.dts --- Day changed Tue Aug 21 2012 00:00 < woglinde> damn qualcom is worser than nvidia on kernel dev 00:01 < woglinde> they are breaking a lot of older hw, but thats okay for them they dont sell it anymore 00:01 marvin24 walks of to bed 00:02 < woglinde> nite marvin 00:03 < srwarren> night 00:03 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178135240.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 00:04 < zombah> anyone know autosleep patchset already merged into mainline or not? 00:19 <*> Quits ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-24-55.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:30 <*> Quits ->zod [~zod@smitty.knid.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:37 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AE55.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Leaving] 00:37 < srwarren> marvin24, not that you're here any more, but setting a few GPIOs and a hacked write to a PWM register, and I see the console... Now to port it to Seaboard. 00:48 < woglinde> srwarren hehe 01:10 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052235163.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:52 < srwarren> Oooh, it works 02:41 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-244-39.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46 <*> Quits ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-64-169.adsl.inetia.pl] 03:11 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@2001:c08:3700:ffff::1a97] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@2001:c08:3700:ffff::e1d] 05:08 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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12:21 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> since i have to reflash it, i could also testdrive something new 12:21 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> *quantal 12:26 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> hmm.. no ac100 build in current and last 2 days 12:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ah.. found it 12:28 < ogra_> dont use the dailies, they are definitely broken 12:29 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> k 12:29 < ogra_> go with a milestone build if you want quantal 12:30 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@58.83.252.57] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@58.83.252.57] 12:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> k, then i guess beta2 will have to do 12:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ooh 12:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> wait 12:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> that can't be right 12:34 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> soo.. alpha 3 is the last one 12:35 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> that explains why i can't find something newer 12:35 <*> Quits ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-24-55.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Quit: clopoff] 12:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-oifkrdkkmwpnmfkf] 14:04 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@58.83.252.57] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:06 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-127-73.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-171-226.adsl.inetia.pl] 14:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX [~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-23-98.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] 14:22 < dpol> marvin24: hi... on last for-next tree I've get build error: board-paz00.c: (.data+0x333c): undefined reference to 'tegra_clk_32k_ops' 14:23 < marvin24> dpol: forgot to make a mrproper? 14:25 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:25 < dpol> marvin24: I build kernel with: make -j3 && make install && make modules_install ...and get zImage 14:25 < marvin24> will try myself 14:29 < dpol> marvin24: gcc (Gentoo 4.5.3-r2 p1.5, pie-0.4.7), binutils-2.22-r1, make-3.82-r3 14:29 < dpol> marvin24: I can post my .config 14:30 < marvin24> dpol: can you try paz00_defconfig while gitorious struggles to give me the tree 14:31 <*> RanX is now known as RanX_XeroX 14:31 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-23-98.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Changing host] 14:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] 14:33 < dpol> marvin24: try to build with paz00_defconfig ? 14:33 < marvin24> dpol: make paz00_defconfig 14:33 < marvin24> make zImage modules dtbs 14:36 < dpol> marvin24: add kernel command line (for tegrapart) || it parses now ?.. 14:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-47-152.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 14:50 < marvin24> yes 14:59 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-65-234.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-65-234.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr] 15:00 < marvin24> dpol: can't get the cross compiler to work now 15:00 < marvin24> but srwarren seems to had it compile yesterday 15:01 < marvin24> btw, there is tegra_clk_32k_ops in board-paz00.c 15:01 < marvin24> *there is no* 15:07 <*> Quits ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:11 <*> Quits ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 15:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-184-220.as13285.net] 15:19 < qpx> .p 15:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->vanger [~vanger@80.91.178.202] 15:22 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:29 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-184-220.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 15:37 <*> Quits ->Dr_Azrael_Tod [~antiheld@Wikipedia/Dr-Azrael-Tod] [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Dr_Azrael_Tod [~antiheld@Wikipedia/Dr-Azrael-Tod] 15:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 15:52 < dpol> marvin24: build with paz00_defconfig is success... I'm try to get proper build with my .config 15:52 < marvin24> dpol: you propable need the new clock framework 16:03 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 16:09 <*> Quits ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [Client Quit] 16:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 16:12 <*> Quits ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [Client Quit] 16:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 16:18 < Chipaca> grrr 16:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39398.dip.t-dialin.net] 16:18 < Chipaca> starting to suspect some hardware issue with all these lockups :( 16:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 16:28 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:32 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: Lost tty1] 16:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 16:52 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@221.219.119.134] 16:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24_ [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 17:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 17:32 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-171-226.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-241-102.adsl.inetia.pl] 18:22 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-oifkrdkkmwpnmfkf] [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->andybooth [~boothy@87.115.64.233] 18:33 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-65-234.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-ggawwvctsgpvikyl] 18:41 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:10 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] 19:22 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-ggawwvctsgpvikyl] [Quit: Verlassend] 19:24 <*> Quits ->vanger [~vanger@80.91.178.202] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p54943EAF.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 20:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] 20:10 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Quit: leaving] 20:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178138234.adsl.alicedsl.de] 20:23 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: Lost tty1] 20:25 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-241-102.adsl.inetia.pl] [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-166-118.adsl.inetia.pl] 20:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:50 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Quit: Page closed] 20:58 <*> Quits ->Hobbes` [~calvin@2001:4b98:dc0:47:216:3eff:fe18:5d33] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Hobbes` [~calvin@2001:4b98:dc0:47:216:3eff:fe18:5d33] 20:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 21:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Sacred-Chao [~pyChao@g33ky.de] 21:20 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> !lilip GoNote 21:20 < Sacred-Chao> [GoNote Android 4.0 netbook heading to the UK for $235] http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Liliputing/~3/pQHT3ts-deg/gonote-android-4-0-netbook-heading-to-the-uk-for-235.html 21:23 <*> Quits ->balrog-k2n [~balrog@211-goc-32.acn.waw.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:23 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> sounds neat 21:29 < zombah> rockchip cpu is bad choice as i heard, gpu violations etc 21:29 < zombah> gpl violations i mean 21:30 < Alex[sp3dev]> it is a shitty cpu itself. slow and ancient 21:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> yes 21:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and its heavier 21:34 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and shares the same crappy resolution 21:34 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and i think the battery lasts less hours 21:34 < Alex[sp3dev]> a good laptop is the new asus transformer which is full hd and has the dock. but it has the price of a proper laptop, not of and android tablet 21:34 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but still: touch screen and 1GB RAM 21:35 < Alex[sp3dev]> why is touchscreen bad given that you have the keyboard? 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13:51 < phh> Alex[sp3dev]: not exactly. 13:51 < Sacred-Chao> arsch! 13:51 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but if that odroid would have sata, i would probably have bought it for my mediacenter 13:53 < arune> Dr_Azrael_Tod: 1GB on the line with pro-points, that would have been pro in 2006 on a laptop with that price :) 13:53 < phh> a media center doesn't require much cpu ... just take a mele A2000 13:53 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. it shouldn't do _just_ mediacenter 13:54 < paultrafalgar> Dr_Azreal_Tod raspberry pi makes an excellent mediacenter with openelec 13:54 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and pi has sata? -.- 13:54 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> or does 1080p? 13:54 < paultrafalgar> no sata 13:55 < paultrafalgar> does 1080p iirc 13:55 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> it does 720p 13:55 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but afair not 1080 13:55 < paultrafalgar> whoops 13:55 < phh> mele has sata and 1080p/3D :p 13:56 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> yes 13:57 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and i'm still thinking about buying one 13:57 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> A1000 13:57 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> even more since it's cheap 14:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->santox [4f2143b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.33.67.185] 14:15 < santox> hi guys 14:15 < santox> it's maybe 6months my ac100 laying asleep 14:15 < ogra_> poor thing 14:16 < santox> now i've some times to spend on it and i'm searching for news.... 14:17 < santox> ac100.grandou wiki seems pretty dead... nothing's happened in these months? 14:18 < PaulFertser> santox: well, a lot happened :) 14:18 < PaulFertser> santox: nvidia released some hf drivers that almost work with 3.1 kernel that's being actively hacked on. 14:19 < PaulFertser> santox: also, ubuntu folks are rather active and ac100 is still nicely supported. 14:19 < santox> good !! i saw it yesterday night on nvidia site 14:19 < santox> ok i need to refresh everything on my ac100 14:20 < PaulFertser> santox: also some strange people run android 4 on it and that probably even allows them to install the famous special spying and abusing software called skype. 14:20 < santox> i would like to remain to archlinuxarm hf 14:20 < santox> *on* 14:21 < santox> i collected some problems in these few hours i spent on my system: 14:21 < santox> broken my current arch installation 'cause of new linaro-tc-compiled-glibc 14:22 < santox> also noticed my mmc if full and wrong partitioned (i have 16GB mmc but mmcblk0p7 in only 5,6GB!) 14:23 < santox> so my system needs some fix... starting from partitioning: any hint? 14:25 < santox> i also read about preliminary uboot support on nvidia site 14:26 < santox> something really happened on this side? 14:27 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-184-220.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 14:39 < phh> ah i wasn't aware of the hard-hf build 14:39 < phh> cool 14:39 < phh> sounds like it's really worse the try 14:40 < phh> (arm-hf or hard-float, not hard-hf, stupid phh -_-') 14:43 < santox> so no documentation on the internet ? (wikis?) i need to read months of irc logs ? 14:46 < stuw> santox, do you mean docs about repartitioning? 14:46 < PaulFertser> santox: partitioning is kind of documented on the wiki, read more about using that nvflash tool... 14:49 < santox> stuw: PaulFertser : repartitioning is only one of my problems :) 14:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-47-0.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 14:49 < santox> anyway... how has it happened? is this http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/Repartition+Internal+Storage up-to-date? 14:50 < santox> where can i find the current hacked on kernel? is it still the marvin24s branch? 14:52 < stuw> similar info about partitioning http://ac100.grandou.net/swarren_brain_dump#flashing_a_custom_partition_table_and_updated_bootloader 14:54 < santox> thankyou stuw 14:55 < stuw> kernel is still marvin24s 14:58 < santox> any precompiled binary available? 14:58 < santox> (just collecting informations...) 15:01 < stuw> santox, ubuntu packages 15:03 < santox> (also downloading 12.04... is it usable with 512MB RAM? or first command to issue will be sudo apt.get install lubuntu ? :) ) 15:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-azdzwprqaecaclol] 15:15 < santox> mmm --getpartitiontable said: 15:16 < santox> PartitionId=14 Name=UDB DeviceId=18 StartSector=1002240 NumSectors=6837504 BytesPerSector=2048 15:17 < santox> 6837504 *2048 = ~14GB 15:17 < santox> partition table seems correct 15:18 < santox> but fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0p7 says 5891MB 15:20 < santox> could it be related to the kernel i'm using? 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17:07 < ogra_> linux-image-* but yeah 17:07 < ogra_> (and not the udeb :) ) 17:07 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-244-209.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:09 < santox> modules in same deb? 17:10 < ogra_> everything you need to run the system ... 17:10 < ogra_> just download and run sudo dpkg -i linux-image*.deb in the download dir 17:11 < santox> ok good 17:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-64-209.adsl.inetia.pl] 17:20 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@195.208.175.17] [Quit: leaving] 17:27 < santox> mmm no more booting 17:28 < santox> "ubuntu kernel image" line on toshiba splash... and after the black screen of death 18:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178138036.adsl.alicedsl.de] 18:19 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-64-209.adsl.inetia.pl] [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-101-13.adsl.inetia.pl] 18:28 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29 < marvin24> santox: if you upgrade from a 3.0 kernel to 3.1, you may have to change the bootimg.cfg 18:29 < marvin24> e.g. exchange mem=448M with mem=512M and add "console=tty" 18:29 < Sacred-Chao> exchange your mailsystem! 18:30 < ogra_> definitely ass console=tty1 18:30 < marvin24> ogra_: can't the install script do this automaticly? 18:31 < ogra_> marvin24, sure, flash-kernel can (and shoudl) on dist-upgrade 18:56 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-101-13.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-84-175.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:08 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-84-175.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08 < santox> uhm 19:09 < santox> i'm now trying to install ubuntu on SD card 19:09 < santox> 1st try issued a kernel null pointer reference while making initrd 19:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 19:10 < santox> marvin24: thank you for hint 19:10 < ogra_> installing to external devices doesnt see much testin usually 19:10 < ogra_> and it will be crawling 19:10 < santox> i'm searching for a tool to deal with the strange partition problem... 19:11 < ogra_> ?? 19:11 < ogra_> what strange partition problem 19:11 < santox> my ac100 has 16GB emmc 19:11 < ogra_> and ? 19:12 < santox> --getpartitiontables seems ok : NumSectors=6837504 BytesPerSector=2048 19:12 < ogra_> uuh, nvflash 19:12 < ogra_> havent seen that in years 19:12 < santox> (on partition 14: ~14GB) 19:12 < ogra_> (or needed) 19:12 < ogra_> yeah, it cant backup beyond a certain size, known nvflash bug 19:13 < santox> but mmcblk0p7 is 5,7GB wide 19:14 < ogra_> and you are sure mmcblk0p7 is nvflash part 14 ? 19:14 < santox> the ubuntu disk management tool shows ~8GB free unpartitioned 19:14 < ogra_> you didnt try to partition the mmc did you ? 19:14 < santox> is last and bigger one. 19:14 < santox> i never tried repartition with nvflash 19:14 < ogra_> (that wont work, the partition table is maintained inside the bootloader and not accessible from linux) 19:15 < ogra_> i mean repartition with any tool like fdisk, cfdisk, gparted 19:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-250-230.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:15 < santox> but maybe long time ago... 19:15 < ogra_> well, that might cause the issue you see, not sure 19:16 < santox> i flashed a backup retrieved on the net 19:16 < ogra_> for the exact model you use ? 19:16 < santox> maybe not exactly same ac100 model... boh... 1 year ago... 19:16 < ogra_> well, the models can massively differ 19:17 < santox> mine is G (italy) 19:17 < marvin24> if you flash the partition 4 from 8G model, you will get what you have now 19:17 < ogra_> and if you used an image from a non 16G machine it is likely that you flashed a bootloader that has a 8G partition table in it 19:17 < marvin24> hehe 19:18 < ogra_> right 19:18 < ogra_> so find a backup of a 16G model ... 19:18 < ogra_> or fix the partition table (but i guess even with a day of searching using a 16G backup will be the easier bit) 19:19 < santox> anybody has ? 19:20 ogra_ only has 3 8G models 19:20 < ogra_> well, two models, three devices 19:20 < marvin24> santox: in theroy, you can make one yourself 19:22 < marvin24> but maybe a bit dangerous 19:22 < ogra_> there are some repartitioning guides out there somewhere 19:27 < santox> marvin24: so what i need is partition4 from whatever 16GB model.... or i need from "G" model? 19:28 < ogra_> well, you cant really break it more 19:28 < ogra_> so try either, keep what works 19:30 < santox> searching for... 19:31 < santox> otherwise i need to dump my (broken) part4 ... and ? 19:32 < ogra_> fix it following one of the reprtiton howtos 19:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:38 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: torwag_h`, Unseen2, DaZ 20:38 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: marvin24, gg, santox, Alex[sp3dev], Dr_Azrael_Tod, wmeyer, PaulFertser, Vandroy, ale6 20:38 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Tequila, Chipaca, pfoetchen, micolous, savalik, dpol, gtom, Mifun, stuw, Sacred-Chao, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:38 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Hobbes`, infinity, srwarren, Daviey, RaYmAn, leviathan, panda|x201, pol, afaerber, nashpa 20:38 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: e-ndy, tilmann, Eruquen, ggrandou_, lenios_, taruti, ojn, hectorvector, Shahid, Bubor, (+15 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:40 <*> Netsplit over, joins: Daviey, phh, kenws, armin76, infinity, Chipaca, nashpa, arune, xranby, marvin24 (+32 more) 20:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->taruti_ [taruti@ultra.violetti.org] 20:40 <*> Netsplit over, joins: ogra_, Shahid, hectorvector, lenios_, p2-mate, ggrandou_, scoopr, Bubor 20:40 <*> Netsplit over, joins: DaZ, Unseen2 20:40 <*> Netsplit over, joins: ojn, Eruquen, qpx 20:40 <*> Netsplit over, joins: ppisati, tilmann 20:45 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: hectorvector, lenios_, p2-mate 20:45 <*> Netsplit over, joins: hectorvector, lenios_, p2-mate 20:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 20:59 <*> taruti_ is now known as taruti 21:00 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-vihlgqpywfmnuqwe] [Quit: Verlassend] 21:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:24 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-250-230.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-51-6.adsl.inetia.pl] 21:44 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p54943D6A.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:24 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Quit: leaving] 22:25 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:09 < arune> I recently reinstalled my ac100 with the latest and greatest Ubuntu 23:09 < Sacred-Chao> nein 23:09 < arune> however the mouse pointer disapears every now and then 23:11 < arune> for example if I click the dash home button 23:15 < wmeyer> framebuffer or GPU? 23:16 < arune> FB 23:17 < arune> no nvidia installed (yet) 23:17 < wmeyer> I think I'm having the same problems 23:19 < arune> never saw this on earlier installs 23:24 < wmeyer> so maybe it's a regression ;-) 23:25 < wmeyer> but I rarely use Unity and under Xmonad everything seems to be OK 23:26 < wmeyer> at least I'm not bothered to use mouse 23:26 < PaulFertser> xmonad++ 23:27 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: yes, it's nice. I'm actually on the transition from StumpWM - which I couldn't get compiled on my ac 23:27 < wmeyer> and Xmonad appeared to be much nicer indeed 23:28 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: i'm a former ion3 user :) 23:28 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: me too :) 23:28 < wmeyer> (that was before stump) 23:28 < wmeyer> ion3 was dropped at some point, some political issues - but also Lua is not my cup of tea 23:29 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: hm, Lua has functions as first-order objects, and it's actually quite nice for scripting. 23:30 < wmeyer> yes I agree with all of that, it's not massively bad - except that is dynamically typed, and the only language I think where dynamic typing matters is to Scheme. 23:33 < PaulFertser> Also, if you ever think about "hm, this C/C++ project should have an embedded language for scripting" probably you should consider Lua, it's very really easy to embed. The others option seem to be Tcl and Guile. 23:34 < wmeyer> yes, that's also what I read from other people, Lua was designed to be embedded 23:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g229047092.adsl.alicedsl.de] 23:35 < wmeyer> but I would wish to have no interests to use C++, however that's still not true 23:35 < wmeyer> :) 23:35 < wmeyer> in other languages you can directly embed repl 23:35 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: do you know C++ has lambda etc? And that it has pure functional turing-complete compile-time language? 23:37 < wmeyer> of course, C++ has lambda except it can't be returned, it has templates as a macro language except you can't call anything from inside templates and it's a separate language with a separate syntax 23:37 < wmeyer> so yes, clearly it has some powers 23:38 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: still if you have to use C++ and probably haven't heard about those new features you might want to take a look at http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Lang-NEXT/Lang-NEXT-2012/-Not-Your-Father-s-C- 23:38 < wmeyer> projects like Spirit show that you can actually implement parsing combinators in pure C++ 23:38 < PaulFertser> Yes, it's amazing 23:38 < wmeyer> which is fine just the code is a bit more involved than it should be (to me) 23:39 < wmeyer> but +1 to type safety and meta programming with sort of type inference 23:40 < wmeyer> just the manual memory managment stop this abstraction at some point 23:40 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: btw, could you probably suggest me some reading to get a real introduction to using Haskell in real world? I mean i usually can understand the textbooks but it's hard to apply the content to my real life. I'm missing "design patterns" i guess. 23:40 < wmeyer> and implementing a full compiler is daunting job 23:47 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] 23:47 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: Of course I could but keep in mind that I am not really a haskell guy, I use OCaml 23:49 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: i'd still appreciate it :) 23:49 < wmeyer> but I did some haskell, and I know about what I would like to see in OCaml and what kind of things in Haskell make it more difficult at the same time 23:49 < wmeyer> OK :) 23:49 < wmeyer> I will dig something, I think there is a book http://book.realworldhaskell.org/ 23:49 < wmeyer> try it, have heard it's cool 23:49 < wmeyer> on the web, I would suggest reading some monad tutorial 23:49 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: oh my, it looks like i've used the right keywords, just forgot to google. 23:49 < wmeyer> for steaming up 23:49 < wmeyer> :D 23:49 < wmeyer> indeed 23:49 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: some monad tutorial is not explaining when some monad is appropriate and when another is appropriate and when i'd better use arrows. 23:49 < wmeyer> yes, it's a bit difficult to see that as an abstraction in the begining 23:49 < wmeyer> arrows are *much* less common and difficult to understand 23:50 < wmeyer> so that's one of the bagages of a pure language - it forces you to use it, and there is no way to avoid it from the begining. That's also what I miss in OCaml, people tend to not use monands instead :) (where they should) 23:50 < wmeyer> and the OCaml compiler does not perform that well on the monadic code 23:50 < wmeyer> as haskell does 23:50 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: i mean i've seen quite some C code (as i'm mostly involved in embedded, from the bare metal to Linux drivers), some Python code etc. So i have a notion about how a problem might be decomposed. But the non-OOP type-inference-based + monadic approach feels like something really orthogonal to all my former experience. 23:50 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: I am not that different than you, I came from C++ background 23:51 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: Given that I strongly encourage people to use modern languages with the type inference :-) 23:51 < wmeyer> i don't do embeded that much, and I appreciate people working on low level code, because they tend to count cycles and bytes still these days 23:53 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: another strange thing i can't understand is that i do not see a decent way to do a simple nice GUI in Haskell. Gtk bindings are unmaintained etc. 23:53 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: both Haskell and OCaml has native compilers for ARM 23:55 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: yes, there two major reasons contributing: lack of man power, and academia (proof something, publish paper, and forget ...) 23:56 < wmeyer> I think good mixture of academia, industry, and hobbyst community is very important 23:56 < wmeyer> in OCaml I think we have right proportions, however still community is relatively small 23:57 < wmeyer> Haskell community is rather bigger 23:57 < wmeyer> and some of the things are really neat 23:57 < PaulFertser> I'd like to see a class at Coursera or something that would take me by the hand and will explain me how to actually use those cool fine languages... 23:57 < wmeyer> however industry part tend to be smaller 23:58 < wmeyer> if you don't mind OCaml I can point you out some nice course 23:58 < wmeyer> taught at Cambridge university at some point 23:59 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: online? 23:59 < wmeyer> where you can learn about programming prolog deduction style system in few lines of code :-) 23:59 < wmeyer> it's just lectures, pdfs --- Day changed Thu Aug 23 2012 00:00 < wmeyer> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/teaching/Lectures/funprog-jrh-1996/ 00:00 < wmeyer> it's really good 00:01 < wmeyer> the course is actually in Caml light 00:01 < PaulFertser> Hm, i think if it's not "too introductory" and talks about fundamental things rather than language details, that'd be cool. 00:02 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178138036.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 00:02 < wmeyer> so you want something about fundamental things rather than language details as far as I understood, then these lectures are great 00:02 < PaulFertser> That looks like what i must read to understand lambda calculus instead of relying on a "notion". 00:03 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: thanks a lot! 00:03 < wmeyer> this is great book: http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/oreilly-book/ 00:04 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: you are welcome, it's pleasure to live in the world where I can meet people genuinely interested in this :) 00:04 < PaulFertser> I feel so behind. "Everybody"'s doing meta-programming, and i'm yet to understand the basics of the lambda calculus... 00:05 < wmeyer> meta-programming is extremely interesting topic but it's not limited to generating code through functional programs 00:05 < wmeyer> it just makes easier to generate that way 00:05 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: my bias is towards Haskell because of its no-compromise-you-damn-must-finally-start-thinking-functional attitude. 00:05 < woglinde> hm i never counted cycles sp far 00:06 < wmeyer> to be honest, people in typed languages prefer light forms of meta programming or combinators (in Haskell) 00:07 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: I understand, I had the same attitude as Haskell is mysterious 00:07 < wmeyer> in Scheme or Common Lisp they prefer macros 00:08 < wmeyer> woglinde: in real time programming it matters (byte, cycles), for instane BT firmware 00:08 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: If you want something really devastating, there is always Coq or Agda :-) 00:09 < PaulFertser> tbh, i haven't counted cycles too (well, probably only for delay loop). 00:09 < wmeyer> I heard this from my friend who works for CSR and they do these things 00:10 < woglinde> smalltalk is nice 00:11 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: I'm biased towards OCaml, if I want something cutting edge then I resort to Coq (rarelly I do, and my knowledge is rather very basic) 00:11 < wmeyer> woglinde: Indeed, it's the right thing to do with objects 00:11 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: thanks for the discussion. I'm heading to sleep now, so (hopefully) see you later. 00:12 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: to give you a taste: http://compcert.inria.fr/ 00:12 < woglinde> me too 00:12 < woglinde> good nite 00:12 < wmeyer> you welcome, good night 00:13 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: hm, c compiler. That reminded me of that work where they used Haskell to generate hard realtime software for a plane 00:14 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: Yes, except is formally proved to be correct. All the passes preserve semantics. 00:15 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: It's programmed in Coq, and the proofs also in Coq aside the compiler, and they they are mechanicely checked with Coq 00:15 <*> Quits ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Disconnected by services] 00:15 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: So it has no bugs in codegen :) 00:16 < PaulFertser> wmeyer: yes, i've read the description. But most bugs are hiding in the code itself anyway :) 00:16 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: So yes you can generate the C code, and trust it's correct, but how can you trust the C compiler, that's the question 00:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan_ [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 00:16 < PaulFertser> Unless that C code is generated by some formally correct method, yes. 00:16 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: yes true 00:17 < wmeyer> PaulFertser: but then you know that if you don't make mistake in the high level code you don't have to review the assembly 00:17 < wmeyer> which happens on these mission critical systems 00:19 < wmeyer> so yes, it will not eliminate problems but narrows down the domain. For the actual C code you can use any of the static analysis tools 00:19 < wmeyer> like this: http://www.astree.ens.fr/ 00:19 < wmeyer> or: http://frama-c.com/ 00:20 < wmeyer> or: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/cambridge/projects/terminator/ 00:20 < wmeyer> all of them including Coq are written in OCaml BTW :-) 00:21 < wmeyer> if they still don't trust the code, then code standards, thourough code review, long testing cycle etc. 00:24 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g229047092.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:36 < |jbrown|> heh, this is just about the last place I'd expect to see a discussion about functional programming languages! :-] 00:37 < wmeyer> |jbrown|: yes, I did mention about Xmonad in some ways! I couldn't resist :-) 00:38 < |jbrown|> heh 00:40 < wmeyer> |jbrown|: are you interested in FP? 00:41 < |jbrown|> I'm quite an ocaml fan, as it happens 00:41 < wmeyer> cool 00:41 < wmeyer> I'm also biased towards ocaml 00:42 < wmeyer> have you got your 4.0 already running on your ac100 00:42 < wmeyer> :-) 00:42 < |jbrown|> no... I've only just compiled it on my proper machine :-) 00:43 |jbrown| has been struggling to understand the new GADTs, heh. 00:44 < |jbrown|> I've used godi on the ac100 before, but hit a couple of bugs compiling the stuff I wanted. 00:44 < |jbrown|> maybe 4.0 will fare better 00:45 < wmeyer> yes there is a brand new backend for ARM too 00:45 < |jbrown|> yeah, so I gather 00:46 < wmeyer> might be also a c glue bug 00:46 < wmeyer> C is not that portable as Caml 00:46 < |jbrown|> might have been, yeah, I can't remember any details now 00:49 < wmeyer> GADTS are hard to understand, especially how to actually apply them to the real world problems, apart from encoding invariants about ASTs 00:50 < |jbrown|> yeah, indeed -- it doesn't help when you find explanations which start as "consider this simple encoding of an SK calculus" or whatever... 00:50 < |jbrown|> ...when one's computer-science education is mostly forgotten, anyway :-p 00:51 < wmeyer> ;p 00:52 < |jbrown|> ...that's actually true, fwiw -- http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/GADT. "To show you how this could be useful, we will implement an evaluator for the typed SK calculus [...]". Oh really! 00:52 < wmeyer> "Motivating example" :) 00:53 < wmeyer> (it does not motivate me either) 00:54 < wmeyer> parser is more interesting 00:57 < |jbrown|> yeah -- I need to get my head around how to use them for actually-useful stuff, I think. 00:59 < wmeyer> yeaah, it's not the sweetest spot of the type system ... 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a testing branch of debian? 18:30 < ogra_> ?? 18:30 < Alex[sp3dev]> nevermind, just tired after a working day. time for bad humour 18:34 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: Mind Over Soul] 18:41 < marvin24> ogra_: install on sd card seems to have worked this time 18:41 < marvin24> maybe this is the reason for slow x startup: "<4>init: Failed to spawn hybrid-gfx main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory" 18:42 < ogra_> you see that on ac100 ? 18:42 ogra_ only knows that message from panda 18:42 < ogra_> i thought it was omap specific, heh 18:43 < marvin24> on the seriel console 18:44 < marvin24> and Berlin is still in the middle of the east see, poor folks :P 18:44 < ogra_> haha 18:45 < ogra_> its a pin ... the tip of the pin is in berlin :) 18:45 < marvin24> ah, that may explain it 18:45 < marvin24> camera works, but there is no live picture here 18:46 < ogra_> yup, i had the same 18:46 < marvin24> minor issure anyway 18:52 < marvin24> ogra_: maybe the initrd is being updated a bit too often ... 18:52 < ogra_> cant change that 18:53 < ogra_> it is handled by dpkg triggers ... packages can enforce triggers to be run ... if a package does that there is no easy way to avoid it 19:02 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g230119210.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:03 < marvin24> wasn't there a function to postpone such things? 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21:15 < ogra_> whats your disk throughput with that ? 21:16 < marvin24> raw usb 2.0 tranfer speed is similar to sdhci I think 21:16 < mase76> i tried only the dl mode 21:16 < ogra_> USB can handle up to 24M/s 21:16 < marvin24> and? 21:17 < marvin24> my emmc has 21 MB/s 21:17 < ogra_> and i think the slot has its own dedicated controller 21:17 < Alex[sp3dev]> what are you talking about? about using freescale udc in client mode? 21:18 < mase76> a normal usb stick is much slower than the emmc. i tried a stick, which should be faster. i think, it is caused by the missing cache. 21:18 < mase76> usb-ssd is an option. 21:18 < mase76> (if you want to place the os there) 21:18 < ogra_> i think the external USB is shared with wlan ... 21:18 < mase76> i added a normal stick for extra space only. i stored music there. 21:19 < ogra_> while the internal PCIe slot has its own dedicated hub 21:19 < ogra_> so you shoudl be able to get better results than on a shared hub 21:22 < mase76> either switching to host doesn't work at all, or the kernel call must be done in an other way. 21:24 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Quit: leaving] 21:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-60-18.21-151.libero.it] 21:48 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-64-15.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-48-13.adsl.inetia.pl] 22:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] 22:09 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-ayewukhbfgxldnbm] [Quit: Verlassend] 22:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 22:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zommi [~quassel@HSI-KBW-078-042-009-093.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] 22:52 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 23:28 < wmeyer> hi --- Day changed Sat Aug 25 2012 00:00 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> hmm 00:01 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> after 1-2h of 50% signal strength wlan starts to break 00:01 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> flaky connections at first 00:01 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but getting worse 00:02 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> until its not stale enought to get an ip anymore 00:23 <*> Quits ->zommi [~quassel@HSI-KBW-078-042-009-093.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Quit: Page closed] 01:02 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-60-18.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD39447.dip.t-dialin.net] 01:10 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A102.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:53 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD39447.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:59 <*> Quits ->ZyTer [~oliv@wwwcache.univ-lr.fr] [Quit: byebye] 02:30 <*> Quits ->tvaculin1 [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:41 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 05:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Guest61061 [~hzhang@123.114.46.197] 05:38 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:25 <*> Quits ->Guest61061 [~hzhang@123.114.46.197] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] 08:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Guest61061 [~hzhang@218.240.153.19] 08:21 <*> Quits ->Guest61061 [~hzhang@218.240.153.19] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:30 <*> Quits ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] [Quit: Leaving.] 08:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Guest61061 [~hzhang@218.240.153.19] 09:16 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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[~Brutal@188.134.37.7] [Quit: Leaving] 21:41 < rpiloose> see multiple examples here: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/ident?i=kzalloc and finally I give you all the credits to Big Thanks you! ;-) 21:45 < rpiloose> This will a bit more coherency like here http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec_leds.c#L53 and in nvec.c 21:46 < rpiloose> another example here: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/host/ehci-tegra.c#L653 21:47 < rpiloose> *add 21:49 < rpiloose> I'll go back in background and reading code... Thx. Bye. 21:49 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.131.198] [] 22:05 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:27 < Snark> hmmm... upgrading to quantal wasn't that good an idea it seems :-/ 22:31 < Snark> now the question is: how do I unbreak it :-/ 22:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:39 < marvin24> rpiloose: (in case you read the backlog) 22:40 < marvin24> 3.5 is quite a bit oldish kernel ;-) 22:40 < marvin24> the mem allocs should be fixed in 3.6 (or -next) 22:40 < marvin24> Snark: what's broken? 22:42 < Snark> marvin24, well, the boot itself 22:42 < Snark> I see the toshiba splash, then the screen gets blank (not black: blank) 22:42 < Snark> and capslock doesn't answer anymore 22:43 < marvin24> Snark: you need to add console=tty1 to the kernel cmdline (and mem=512M@0 when you are at it) 22:43 < Snark> marvin24, the question is : how do I do that now? 22:43 < marvin24> a fresh install should do this, but if you upgrade the bootimg.cfg won't be touched 22:43 < marvin24> Snark: flash a 3.1 with nvflash 22:44 < Snark> how so? 22:44 < marvin24> depends - there are multiple possibilities ;-) 22:44 Snark went the dist-upgrade way thinking that was the safer way 22:44 < Snark> marvin24, let's start with the one which works *g* 22:44 < marvin24> they all work of course 22:45 marvin24 thinks about a simple method 22:45 < marvin24> if you have abootimg on your desktop, you could download partition 6 and modify it 22:46 < Snark> I think I have that 22:46 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46 < Snark> I have abootimg 22:47 < Snark> and now I have partition 6 22:47 < Snark> how do I modify it? 22:48 < marvin24> Snark: first extract the stuff 22:48 < marvin24> abootimg -x part6.img 22:48 < marvin24> modify bootimg.cfg 22:49 < marvin24> and write it back 22:51 < Snark> hmmmm... 22:52 < Snark> I did the abootimg -x, modified bootimg.cfg, did abootimg -u, pushed it back... same result 22:52 < marvin24> mmh, something went wrong then 22:53 < Snark> my new cmdline = mem=512M@0M tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800 root=UUID=35c6b295-f93d-42d7-b0bb-133bee5612ef quiet splash console=tty1 22:53 < Snark> there was no console= before, and the mem was 448M@0M 22:54 < Snark> wait, abootimg -i shows the same cmdline as before 22:56 < marvin24> aha 22:56 < Snark> retrying... 22:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:57 < Snark> hmmmm... blank screen, but this time capslock answers and the wifi led is on 22:58 <*> Quits ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-28-4.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:59 < Snark> marvin24, so it's better, but I still don't even have a console 23:04 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:09 < Snark> marvin24, do you have another idea? 23:10 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:15 < marvin24> no, did you rechecked the cmdline? 23:16 < marvin24> Snark: can you switch to console? 23:16 < marvin24> if you still have the tegra driver installed, that wouldn't work 23:16 < marvin24> you may also try to login via wifi 23:19 < Snark> marvin24, I can't switch to console 23:19 < Snark> I don't think I had the tegra driver 23:19 < Snark> and the box doesn't ping (but the led is on) 23:20 < marvin24> well, the led is not really related to wifi 23:21 < marvin24> Snark: you may try to remove "quiet splash" and add "verbose debug" 23:25 < Snark> done 23:25 < Snark> ok, the kernel boots... and then things get messy 23:26 < Snark> the last line is init: ureadahead main process (196) terminated with status 5 23:27 < Snark> before that, it was doing a recovery on an EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p12) 23:29 < marvin24> Snark: well, nothing unusal 23:30 < marvin24> could be an initrd problem 23:30 < marvin24> Snark: I'll make an image for you ... 23:31 < Snark> thanks 23:35 < Snark> ah, I removed the "verbose debug", and now I see "Begin: ..." then "done." stages 23:36 < Snark> "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done." then the ureadahead message, and things stay there 23:37 < zombah> marvin24: hello, do you changing .dft_brightness = 224 to some other value in out panel driver must have any effect or not? I tried lowering it to 40, but dont see any visual changes 23:37 < zombah> marvin24: do you know i mean 23:39 < marvin24> zombah: yes, maybe ubuntu overwrites it 23:39 < marvin24> e.g. it never saves the brightness here 23:41 < marvin24> Snark: http://goo.gl/4XHvF 23:41 < marvin24> I already changed the cmdline 23:44 < Snark> almost the same : it changes the console font before it stops 23:45 < Snark> marvin24, ^ 23:47 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-28-4.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] 23:47 < zombah> marvin24: want ask also, i noticed if i remove .flags = TEGRA_FB_FLIP_ON_PROBE, framebuffer artifacts vanish from system start, is it safe to remove it or it needed for smthg? --- Day changed Mon Aug 27 2012 00:02 Snark wonders on which partition he has his data 00:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 00:08 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13 < marvin24> Snark: maybe somethings different in userspace init 00:13 < marvin24> ogra may know more 00:13 < marvin24> or you just do a fresh install 00:13 < marvin24> zombah: which artifacts are you talking about 00:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DJ_HiP` [~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10] 00:13 < marvin24> and no, TEGRA_FB_FLIP_ON_PROBE is not critical 00:14 < zombah> marvin24: like double copy of toshiba logo with garbled colors. it is seen if fb driver is disabled 00:15 < marvin24> fb driver disabled? 00:15 < Snark> marvin24, I'll first try to get a few things off the box -- I have a very very recent backup, but I think I have two or three patches in a git tree that I didn't push 00:15 < marvin24> you mean you are using the tegra driver 00:15 < zombah> marvin24: fb console driver i mean 00:16 < marvin24> ah 00:16 < marvin24> zombah: possible 00:16 < marvin24> you mean for android? 00:17 < zombah> marvin24: yep, its appeared in 3.1 kernel 00:17 <*> Quits ->DJ_HiP [~DJ_HiP@203.122.224.10] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:18 < marvin24> if you leave TEGRA_FB_FLIP_ON_PROBE off, the console will show no output unless you switch to a different console 00:18 < marvin24> but that doesn't matter on android 00:19 < zombah> marvin24: oh good then i remove it, as simly dark screen looks better 00:20 marvin24 removes himself from the keyboard for today 00:21 < Snark> marvin24, thanks :-) 00:30 <*> DJ_HiP` is now known as DJ_HiP 00:31 <*> Quits ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-28-4.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:35 <*> Quits ->andybooth [~boothy@12.5.125.91.dyn.plus.net] [Quit: leaving] 01:02 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052064157.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:07 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Quit: Page closed] 01:16 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 03:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.114.46.197] 04:12 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 04:27 <*> Quits ->hector_si_vector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-7-241.tky.mesh.ad.jp] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lynx [~lynx@46.187.136.225] 04:57 <*> lynx is now known as Guest97026 04:58 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.114.46.197] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:05 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 05:20 < Guest97026> I heard that android 4.0 port (from ac100.wikispaces.com) always makes a noise before playing audio and I remembered that in x86 kernel there was "aggressive power saving on audio"(or similar) option that may cause the such behavior. Maybe there is something similar in android kernel. 06:27 <*> Quits ->tvaculin [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:39 < DJ_HiP> the 'click' noise 06:43 < stuw> Guest97026, DJ_HiP click noise is known issue. It does not depend on OS/distributive version. 06:44 < DJ_HiP> Yeah I know, just clarifying what Guest97026 is saying 06:45 < stuw> marvin24, I saw the Stephen's patch. As you said 3.1 works without inversion fine. So the patch looks ok for me. 07:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052235141.adsl.alicedsl.de] 07:28 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052235141.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:37 <*> Quits ->srwarren [~swarren@avon.wwwdotorg.org] [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 07:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->srwarren [~swarren@avon.wwwdotorg.org] 07:40 <*> Quits ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] [Remote host closed the connection] 07:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] 08:01 < stuw> marvin24, srwarren I have a question about nvec implementation. http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/blobs/rel-15r7-ac100/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec.c#line324 <- in case of error we keep msg allocated. After few errors we have no available slots in msg_pool. I suppose msg is not needed any more if error has occurred. Did I miss something in my reasoning? 08:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.114.46.197] 08:32 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-122-107.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-200-29.adsl.inetia.pl] 09:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 09:04 < Snark> hi 09:04 < Snark> so what ubuntu should I install on my newly-restored-to-factory AC100? 09:11 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.114.46.197] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] 09:43 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-200-29.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:46 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:46 < rpiloose> Snark: hi, experimental: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/current/ --> switched from Unity to LXE 09:47 < rpiloose> Snark: stable in LTS tunnel: from this page: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/release/ --> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/release/ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz 09:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 09:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-73-221.adsl.inetia.pl] 09:50 < rpiloose> Snark: but the last dated from 23-Apr-2012 13:29, then I don't know if it's include the last update or you have to play with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade 09:53 rpiloose I hope to see soon http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/release/ubuntu-12.04.1-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz for the health of flash memory and the fewer bandwith consuption... 09:55 < Snark> rpiloose, thanks ; I'll have a look at the quantal first 09:56 < rpiloose> Snark: Thank ogra_ for this endeavour! ;-) 09:56 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] [] 10:01 < Snark> hmmmm... fatal error inserting fuse, then Error: No tarball found 10:02 < Snark> and I get dropped into an initramfs shell 10:10 < stuw> Snark, do you use installation bootimage from older version? 10:12 < Snark> I don't think so 10:12 < Snark> I reflashed all partitions to factory, then upload the bootimg corresponding to the tarball 10:14 < stuw> Snark, check that your usb stick have one partition (i.e. it is detected as /dev/sda1 in linux) 10:14 < stuw> Snark, use fat32 on usb stick 10:15 < Snark> oh, fdisk -l says HPFS/NTFS/exFAT 10:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 10:20 < Snark> ok, it's reformatted, I reflashed the bootimg... let's try with that now-nice key 10:23 < Snark> ah, it found the tarball! 10:23 < Snark> stuw, thanks! 10:31 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:32 < Snark> sigh... the tarball I have has the right md5, sha1 and sha256... and it's bad 10:32 < Snark> let's go the lts way then 10:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@fb07-iapwap2.physik.uni-giessen.de] 10:35 < marvin24> stuw: I already send a fix for rpiloose for this 10:36 < marvin24> for->from 10:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] 10:37 < marvin24> ah,maybe not - this is a different one 10:39 < marvin24> stuw: isn't the message freed in line 337? 10:39 < marvin24> ah, no, err == 0 is the error condition 10:39 < marvin24> weird 10:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 10:41 < stuw> marvin24, code looks like we want to wait/get responce at any price 10:43 < marvin24> stuw: in the error case the message pointer is just reset 10:43 < marvin24> no new buffer will get reserved 10:44 < marvin24> it just picks the old one from the list 10:45 < stuw> marvin24> stuw: in the error case the message pointer is just reset <- are you talking about msg->pos = 0 ? 10:51 < stuw> nvec_msg_alloc returns first unused (used flag is 0) msg from pool. nvec_request_master never marks msg as unused (never call nvec_msg_free for this msg) in case of error. 10:53 < stuw> I didn't analyze nvec driver enough to understand what msg->pos = 0 means :( 10:55 < marvin24> stuw: request_master checks if there is a message queued to be send to the ec 10:55 < marvin24> the queue is a list named tx_data 10:56 < marvin24> if the list is not empty, it will notify the ec to start the transfer (we can't do it because we are slave) 10:57 < marvin24> if after 5 secs the transfer is not finished, it will reset the message pointer (pointing to the next char to send) 10:57 < marvin24> the buffer is only freed if the message was transfered successfully 10:57 < marvin24> but if we timeout too often, we cannot accept new messages anymore 10:58 < marvin24> the problem is that most messages are async and they don't care about return values 10:58 < marvin24> if the tx queue is full (because we timeout all the time), we cannot send anymore 10:59 < marvin24> in fact, (nearly) all communication should be sync I think 11:00 < marvin24> but the sync write is not very robust yet 11:00 < marvin24> and still needs a lot of work 11:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ZyTer [~oliv@wwwcache.univ-lr.fr] 11:04 < stuw> marvin24, thanks for explanation. 11:04 < marvin24> stuw: thanks for review ! 11:14 < stuw> marvin24, is nvec_request_master (i.e. send to EC) and nvec_dispatch (i.e. read from EC) performed in parallel ? I mean we should read all messages from EC before send anything if send to EC will block read from EC operation (If I understood EC documentation correctly) 11:15 < marvin24> stuw: no, they can be on the fly (in theroy) 11:16 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-73-221.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:16 < marvin24> but it's possible that we are not sending a new message unless the old one is finished 11:17 < marvin24> the sending, not the receive of the ack message 11:17 < stuw> Prev msg is a little bit wrong: we should read responses before send requests. 11:19 < stuw> marvin24, ok. thx once again :) 11:20 < marvin24> stuw: feel free to create a hack which improves it 11:21 < stuw> marvin24, I should understand code first :) 11:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-194-9.adsl.inetia.pl] 11:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] 11:29 < marvin24> most stuff was rewritten by julienk, so he knows the code best 11:34 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-194-9.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@nat.rnd.stcnet.ru] 11:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] 11:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-127-176.adsl.inetia.pl] 11:40 < rpiloose> hi stuw , hi marvin24 quote: "(If I understood EC documentation correctly)", I had already seen this claim but where is it? 11:42 < stuw> http://www.scribd.com/doc/81447396/Tegra2-Embedded-Controller-Interface-Specification-20111117 11:42 < rpiloose> otherwise, we have some informations here finding us the right way to better implement things: http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/blobs/linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-slave-tegra.c 11:43 < marvin24> rpiloose: that's not complete 11:43 < rpiloose> stuw: Thanks (your previous patch was so clueable and start me reading the code...)), you are valuable! :-)) 11:43 < marvin24> in fact, we need a smbus interface 11:44 < marvin24> rpiloose: did you read my message from yesterday ev (gmt)? 11:44 < rpiloose> marvin24: yes, I saw your previous claim requesting rewrite with i2c-slave-tegra and the likes... 11:45 < marvin24> rpiloose: I mean the one regarding savety for memory allocs 11:45 < marvin24> these are fixed in -next already 11:45 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45 < marvin24> but I haven't backported them to 3.1 yet 11:47 < stuw> rpiloose, what patch are you talking about ? :) 11:47 < rpiloose> marvin24: yes about 3.6, heu ev? Just saw incoherency in code design... :-/ 11:48 < marvin24> [21:39:21] rpiloose: (in case you read the backlog) 11:48 < marvin24> [21:40:00] 3.5 is quite a bit oldish kernel ;-) 11:48 < marvin24> [21:40:14] the mem allocs should be fixed in 3.6 (or -next) 11:48 < rpiloose> stuw: NULL pointer reference, but until now, I still don't have solder a component to have serial console access... 11:50 < rpiloose> marvin24: yes, truly thx again, this is just polishing but with that the code is more "clean". This don't make any difference in improving the NVEC cnx. :-( 11:50 < Sacred-Chao> *sprengt rpiloose zur allgemeinen Aufmunterung* ALSO ICH FINDE DAS LUSTIG! 11:51 < rpiloose> Sacred-Chao: need to translate in english at least... 11:52 < stuw> ahhh, patch for serial console... it was a little bit wrong :) I can't start x server with this patch - x server (or some other code) tries to write data to zero size tty :) so we need to find the reason of problem. Maybe it's arch bug. 11:52 < stuw> *for tty 11:54 < rpiloose> stuw: yes, you reveal me the truth about the linux kernel, require serial console before playing with it... 11:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] 11:58 < rpiloose> stuw: Tegra2-Embedded-Controller-Interface-Specification-20111117 require a login as a Scridd Premium Reader... :-/ And under Midori... 11:58 < stuw> riploose, you can read it online :) 11:59 < stuw> *soory rpiloose :) 11:59 < stuw> *sorry :)) 12:00 stuw is a little bit sleepy 12:00 < rpiloose> stuw: yes, close source, close specs, more trouble to write GPL code... 12:01 < rpiloose> about NVEC, I saw the dump of the code (64K of 8051 code?) but I don't know if it's for bootloader 2.1 or 2.2 12:02 < rpiloose> I was thinking do to a diff between this version to have more clue about this code... 12:03 < rpiloose> Sacred-Chao: beyond rpiloose general encouragement * ALSO I FIND THE FUNNY! Thanks, I am just try put again this subject on the table... 12:03 < rpiloose> *to 12:05 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> !leave 12:05 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->Sacred-Chao [~pyChao@g33ky.de] [] 12:05 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> why was that here? 12:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-50-174.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] 12:09 < rpiloose> Dr_Azrael_Tod: hi, hehe, see in the back of your AC100: "TOSHIBA EUROPE GMBH"! ;-) Thanks to German's guy to create it? 12:10 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> uhh.. 12:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i'm pretty sure it wasn't developed here 12:12 < ogra_> i dont think compal has any european fabs :) 12:16 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] 12:22 < rpiloose> sure, the address is Hammfelddamm 8, 41460 NEUSS, Germany, like not somewhere nearby Shangai or Shenzen... 12:23 < ogra_> thats the importer :) 12:24 < ogra_> the device is built by compal originally 12:24 ogra_ met the engineers that built it at a UDS 12:26 < rpiloose> dump of the code by muromec @ 17 march 2011: http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/ecdump.bin 12:27 < rpiloose> of shit, I missed that: http://share.grandou.net/ac100/ec/ 12:28 < Snark> ogra_, hi ; have you seen that the quantal snapshot of 20120825 has a bad tarball? 12:28 < ogra_> Snark, not yet, taking care for a ton of other failed images today, but i'll get to it 12:28 < ogra_> i personally tested 20120824 ... that worked fine 12:28 < Snark> ok 12:29 < ogra_> the canonical datacenter moved the last three weeks so fallout can happen :) 12:30 < scoopr> "datacenter" sounds so .. monolithic.. datadistributed ftw! 12:31 < ogra_> haha 12:31 < ogra_> well, in fact it is distributing more, they just added another bigger DC, only some machines moved over 12:31 < ogra_> sadly the image build infrastructure is among them 12:35 < scoopr> are the machines installed through MAAS? ;) 12:35 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:41 < rpiloose> and http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/ecdump.d52 12:45 < ogra_> scoopr, that stuff predates MAAS and i think they dont want to risk stability by movin them to it right now ... its likely on the TODO though, but not during doing a DC move 12:46 < scoopr> aight, not too many changes at once, sure 12:51 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-127-176.adsl.inetia.pl] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55 <*> Quits ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-50-174.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Quit: clopoff] 12:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-104-113.adsl.inetia.pl] 13:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-mnznrjtrwpmyobrp] 13:17 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-104-113.adsl.inetia.pl] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87.205.144.103] 13:24 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] [] 13:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ_ [~derp@77-253-119-131.adsl.inetia.pl] 13:26 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87.205.144.103] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:26 <*> DaZ_ is now known as DaZ 13:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] 13:28 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:29 < Guest97026> Hi does anyone have backup of original software from AC100-10E? I bought mine with ubuntu installed and I can't find working android images. 13:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] 13:30 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] [] 13:30 < longpig> i found a set via google, one of the ac100 related linux sites 13:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 13:31 < longpig> i believe theres also a version of android 4.0 that you can run (the official toshiba image is 2.2) 13:31 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-119-131.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:32 < Guest97026> I did find some images but they do no work. 13:33 < longpig> try http://ac100.wikispaces.com 13:33 < Guest97026> I do not know what did the previous owner flashed into this device. 13:33 < longpig> did you also remember to repartition the flash before flashing the images back? 13:34 < longpig> files.tomek.cedro.info/service/toshiba/ac100/toshiba-ac100-android2.2/ 13:34 < longpig> have you tried those? 13:34 < Guest97026> Yes, I know this site, and I am trying to install ICS atm. 13:35 < longpig> what size flash have you got? 13:35 < longpig> i have the factory backup from my 8gb model 13:35 < longpig> i can tar it up minus the data partition (which you will just be overwriting with ics anyway) 13:36 < longpig> might take a few mins to upload tho 13:36 < Guest97026> I do not think i tried those(downloading). 13:36 < Guest97026> I have 32gb model 13:36 < Guest97026> I'll try the ones from link first. 13:40 < longpig> ahh yes, the link i posted is for 32gb 13:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-80-54.adsl.inetia.pl] 13:46 < Guest97026> There are more then one 32gb model. I have 10E (Polish) but there is also 116 (Russian). 13:46 < longpig> hmm, are there any differences between them or just the language? 13:46 < longpig> i think only the 8gb model was available here 13:47 < Guest97026> I don't know. 13:47 < stuw> http://ac100.grandou.net/models 13:48 < longpig> i suspect its only the flash size that matters.. 13:49 < Guest97026> The link you posted is for 32gb version. 14:07 < longpig> stuw, have you encountered the divide by zero bug in the vty handling code too? 14:09 < stuw> longpig, IIRC I got divide by zero error with my "hack" for zero sized tty :) 14:10 < ogra_> the models differ also in MMC type and ram type 14:10 < ogra_> different models have different flash chips and ram chips from different manufacturers 14:10 < stuw> longpig, I added few log lines and discovered that first tty initialized with non zero size, the second one - 0 rows and 0 cols :) 14:11 < longpig> i get a divide by zero with marvin's kernel if i try to use more than 1 tty 14:11 < longpig> the 3.1 kernel that is 14:11 < ogra_> works fine in ubuntu 14:11 < longpig> so i cant start x11 or anything 14:11 < stuw> longpig, do you use arch ? :) 14:11 < ogra_> we''re using it in quantal since quite a while already 14:11 < longpig> gentoo 14:11 < ogra_> did you set console=tty1 ? 14:11 < longpig> yes 14:12 < ogra_> then it shoudl just work 14:12 < longpig> does ubuntu use the vtys at all? 14:12 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 14:12 < longpig> i thought it goes straight to x11 14:12 < ogra_> nope 14:13 < ogra_> i run one of my quantal installs even without DM ... 14:13 < ogra_> using shell login and startx 14:13 < longpig> hmm, wonder why userland would make such a difference for that 14:13 < ogra_> it shouldnt 14:14 < ogra_> probably a config issue with your kernel 14:14 < ogra_> a piece missing or to much 14:15 < longpig> im using the default paz00 config 14:15 < ogra_> well, ubuntu doesnt, but the defconfig should work indeed 14:17 < Chipaca> i didn't know different models differed in mmc type and ram type. Are there any notably better or worse? 14:18 < ogra_> no 14:18 < ogra_> but they need different handling at times 14:19 < ogra_> i.e. sandisk vs toshiba MMC uses diferent tegrapart setups 14:19 < ogra_> also one of them does TRIM, the other has TRIM as a no-op in the driver ... (dont ask me which one does whish, its over a year ago that we had to fix that bug) 14:20 < Guest97026> longpig, The images that you pointed me to are working, thx 14:24 < Chipaca> ogra_: that trim thing would be handy to know :) but ok 14:25 < ogra_> i thinnk it was sandisk ... 14:25 < ogra_> you can lookup the manfid in your sysfs and check it with google to find out which one you got 14:28 < Chipaca> ogra_: will do, thanks 14:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-47-172.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 15:25 < Guest97026> For some reason nvflash fails to flash part4 i just hangs and does not show progress counter. I tried a few times - always the same result. 15:27 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@nat.rnd.stcnet.ru] [Quit: leaving] 15:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.114.46.197] 15:42 < phh> i think i remember we had to use rawwriteflash (or whatever it is called) rathern than --write 15:43 < Guest97026> nvflash fails wen used on part 2 and 3 printing something like "no such command" 15:43 < Guest97026> but it starts to write for part 4 15:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.136.205] 15:44 < Guest97026> I used" "./nvflash -r --download 4 ~/Desktop/ac100/b1/ac100-bootloader-downgrade/2.1/tac100-part-4.img" 15:44 < Guest97026> It gives following results: "Nvflash started\n [resume mode]\n sending file: /home/.../tac100-part-4.img" 15:45 < Guest97026> and it hangs 15:45 < rpiloose> Guest97026: hi, as phh said, for flashing part4, use LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./nvflash -r --rawdevicewrite [StartSector] [NumSectors] part-[PartitionId].img 15:46 < rpiloose> Guest97026: be carefull with numbers [StartSector] [NumSectors], and do a BACKUP of part4 before to go further... You have been advise... 15:51 < Guest97026> It worked. thx. 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21:11 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 21:12 < zombah> perhaps 21:13 < PaulFertser> mokrates: it can't be bricked, there's a ROM bootloader embedded in Tegra2. 21:13 < mokrates> how can i make sure it's a tegra2? 21:13 < PaulFertser> mokrates: lolwhat? all ac100s have tegra2. 21:13 < mokrates> it says model ac100-117 on the back 21:13 < mokrates> ah, ok 21:13 < mokrates> so 21:13 < mokrates> the final goal would be to install ubuntu 21:13 < PaulFertser> mokrates: the wiki is quite a fine source of relevant information. 21:14 < mokrates> but i would like to get lifesign first 21:14 < mokrates> tried google and wikis for hours 21:14 < mokrates> wouldn't dare to ask before trying myself :) 21:14 < mokrates> what i lack is a bit of understanding this nvflash thingie 21:14 < PaulFertser> mokrates: there's one only good suitable: http://ac100.grandou.net 21:15 < mokrates> that's where i found the reference to this chan 21:15 < PaulFertser> mokrates: ok, so just ask 21:15 < mokrates> ok 21:15 < mokrates> i have downloaded the nvflash 21:15 < mokrates> a ubuntu 12.04 root-fs 21:15 < mokrates> and 21:15 < mokrates> a boot-partition or so 21:15 < mokrates> with the nvflash i can transfer files from my computer to the ac100, right? 21:16 < mokrates> to partitions or files? 21:16 < mokrates> mom phone 21:16 < mokrates> sry 21:17 < PaulFertser> mokrates: nvflash is a rather low-level thingie, it's best approximated as "you can transfer files from your computer to ac100's partitions". 21:20 < mokrates> ok 21:20 < mokrates> and back, as i understand it 21:20 < mokrates> so 21:21 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22 < mokrates> so there is this command nvflash --bl /usr/lib/nvflash/fastboot.bin --download 6 /path/to/ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.bootimg 21:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052235141.adsl.alicedsl.de] 21:22 < mokrates> and there i get a 'file not found' or somesuch 21:22 < mokrates> about the /usr/lib/nvflash/fastboot.bin 21:23 < mokrates> and i don't quite get where this is supposed to be 21:23 < mokrates> on the ac100 or on the host? 21:23 < mokrates> and, if it's supposed to be on the host, where were i supposed to get it in the first place? 21:23 < mokrates> because, i don't have it 21:23 < PaulFertser> mokrates: on host. 21:24 < PaulFertser> mokrates: try to find it among the files you downloaded with nvflash. 21:24 < mokrates> that was just nvflash 21:24 < mokrates> but thanx 21:24 < mokrates> i try google for a sec 21:25 < mokrates> ah. i see, just download the right tool ;) 21:25 <*> Quits ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:29 < mokrates> whoa! 21:29 < mokrates> worked :) 21:29 < mokrates> thanx a bunch 21:31 < mokrates> hm... 21:31 < mokrates> now, when i turn it on, holding the 'home'-key, it goes to the 'factory data reset' screen 21:31 < mokrates> 1) continue / 2) return to android 21:32 < PaulFertser> mokrates: why are you booting it holding the home key? 21:32 < mokrates> and if i press 1) only 'Ubuntu Boot Img' is appearing 21:32 < mokrates> no more 21:32 < mokrates> because, if i turn it on just so, it doesn't do anything 21:32 < mokrates> just the backlight turns on 21:33 < PaulFertser> mokrates: is that with a usb stick with the ubuntu rootfs plugged in? 21:33 < mokrates> nope 21:33 < mokrates> sd-card with ubuntu-rootfs on ext3 untarred 21:33 < mokrates> that wrong? ;) 21:33 < mokrates> sooo usb-stick, yes 21:33 < mokrates> will try 21:33 < PaulFertser> Hm, i'm not sure that's in accordance with the ubuntu install guide. 21:34 < mokrates> has the usb-stick to be formatted in a certain way? 21:35 < mokrates> and then the rootfs.tar.gz just so on the stick, yes? 21:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:37 < PaulFertser> mokrates: i'd guess the stick should have a fucking fat16 or fat32 first partition with the rootfs.tar.gz in the root of it. 21:37 < mokrates> k 21:38 < mokrates> thanx :) 21:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->waps_ [~waps@APoitiers-155-1-32-49.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr] 21:41 < waps_> Hello ! 21:44 < mokrates> hm 21:44 < mokrates> doesn't do anything 21:44 < mokrates> the usb-stick doesn't even power on 21:44 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:45 < PaulFertser> mokrates: btw, have you performed a backup first as suggested? 21:46 < mokrates> it was as bricked, when i got it 21:46 < mokrates> soooo.... no. 21:47 < mokrates> but the owner also tried to install ubuntu..., i think, there was nothing original to backup anyway 21:47 < PaulFertser> mokrates: it would still make sense. 21:47 < mokrates> ok 21:48 < PaulFertser> mokrates: at least your "home" experiment shows that: 1. it's not bricked; 2. it's using fastboot 2.1 versionn. 21:48 < mokrates> yep 21:48 < mokrates> not completely bricked, at all 21:49 < PaulFertser> Do you think "Ubuntu Boot Img" is printed by that boot image you flashed to the 6th partition? 21:49 < mokrates> i don't know 21:50 < mokrates> looks just like when i got it, and that was when i didn't even know there were partitions on this thing ;) 21:50 < PaulFertser> mokrates: hm, make a dump of the partitions and compare with a dump of another 117 (i guess you can find on the net somewhere). 21:51 < mokrates> i would install android too 21:51 < mokrates> main goal is making that thing go 'beep. welcome!' 21:53 < mokrates> what is a BCT? 21:54 < PaulFertser> mokrates: that's the first special partition, it has the bootloader and some special data inside. 22:01 < mokrates> found a vanilla backup 22:02 < mokrates> thank you /very/ much 22:04 < PaulFertser> mokrates: do you mean you got it going? 22:05 < mokrates> not yet. still downloading. 22:05 < mokrates> but, if this is all, it should be running after flashing that vanilla back, shouldn't it? 22:05 < mokrates> even booting with the original android 22:06 < PaulFertser> mokrates: i'd be very careful when considering running some random backup from the internet. At least make sure it's of the same 117 model. 22:07 < PaulFertser> mokrates: i'd think flashing BCT and PT (both in raw mode) plus flashing that ubuntu boot image again (just in case) should work 22:07 < PaulFertser> mokrates: but that nvflash thingie is nasty, beware. 22:07 < PaulFertser> Use raw mode. 22:07 < mokrates> ok 22:08 < mokrates> --rawdevicewrite ? 22:08 < PaulFertser> I guess yes. 22:09 < PaulFertser> I've never used that proprietary nvflash thingie, so can't tell you for sure. 22:09 < mokrates> you used that usbput? 22:09 <*> Quits ->waps_ [~waps@APoitiers-155-1-32-49.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Quit: Quitte] 22:09 < mokrates> looked quite... hackerish 22:09 < PaulFertser> mokrates: putusb, yes. I've also written a wikipage with usage instructions. 22:10 < mokrates> yes, i have seen that 22:10 < PaulFertser> the wikipage 22:10 < mokrates> (i think, that was it. was the only google hit) 22:10 <*> Quits ->mokrates [~mmolle@e176111217.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: leaving] 22:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mokrates [~mmolle@e176111217.adsl.alicedsl.de] 22:11 < mokrates> whoups 22:12 < PaulFertser> wb :) 22:14 < mokrates> ok... i think i cancel backing up part 14... i don't plan to flash that 22:15 < PaulFertser> Right 22:15 < mokrates> the backed up partition table and the one i downloaded are equal 22:15 < mokrates> nice 22:15 < mokrates> so you say, BCT and PT, which are 2 and 3 22:16 < PaulFertser> mokrates: yes 22:17 < mokrates> why should i use raw mode? 22:17 < mokrates> if the partition tables are equal, i should not have to give the sector-numbers if i don't use raw mode, don't i? 22:17 < mokrates> wouldn't that be less error-prone? 22:22 < PaulFertser> mokrates: nvflash somehow has some knowledge about partitions and tends to modify them as you flash... 22:22 < PaulFertser> I do not remember the details 22:23 < mokrates> ah, ok 22:24 < mokrates> hm 22:24 < mokrates> but the table is equal to the one i downloaded 22:24 < mokrates> it /should/ just work, i would think 22:30 < mokrates> but it seems not to 22:30 < mokrates> 'bad command' 22:30 < mokrates> hm 22:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 22:46 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50 < mokrates> now it doesn't even turn on the backlight anymore... 22:50 < mokrates> narf 22:52 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 23:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-41-93.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] 23:32 < Guest97026> mokrates: You have to use raw mode for partitions 2, 3 and 4 23:40 < mokrates> ok 23:50 < mokrates> \o/ whoo! 23:50 < mokrates> android is running again 23:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 23:53 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> 4? 23:54 < PaulFertser> I guess that's some fastboot trash? 23:55 < PaulFertser> ``strings part4'' supports the claim 23:56 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] --- Day changed Tue Aug 28 2012 00:14 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> as allways.. confused by alsamixer on ac100 -.- 00:26 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> good thing i don't need sound verry often 00:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 00:30 < mokrates> aaand i got ubuntu running 00:31 < mokrates> PaulFertser: you were really helpful 00:31 < mokrates> thanx a great lot 01:07 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052235141.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3BC47.dip.t-dialin.net] 01:11 <*> Quits ->clopoff [Miranda@ppp91-77-41-93.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] [Quit: clopoff] 01:12 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39F50.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:15 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-80-54.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:18 <*> Quits ->leviathan_ [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:19 < mokrates> bye 01:19 <*> Quits ->mokrates [~mmolle@e176111217.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: leaving] 01:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-38-218.adsl.inetia.pl] 01:43 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [] 02:02 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3BC47.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 02:06 <*> Quits ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p549420DA.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Verlassend] 02:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->armelf_ [~armelf@37.175.131.17] 02:31 < armelf_> stuw: about Tegra2-Embedded-Controller-Interface-Specification, I found the chapter 8. 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18:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> hehe 18:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> not really 18:31 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i didn't download that much files at those times 18:31 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> it still took hours, but those usually were <50M and didn't change during that time 18:32 <*> Quits ->juice19 [~sky61019@122.235.233.129] [Quit: 离开] 18:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> bigger problem was "i've got part1-part35 and part37-part100 - why is there no 36? 18:33 <*> Quits ->yunfan [~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan] [Quit: Leaving.] 18:35 < Alex[sp3dev]> yes, dialup sucked. especially when paying for time, not for traffic 18:36 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i find both models equally ugly 18:36 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i don't want to think about how much time/traffic i used allready 18:56 < Snark> ogra_, I had no md5sum issue -- the tarball was just corrupted 18:57 < Snark> ogra_, and I'll unfortunately no test your new image : I just finished polishing my precise installation... 18:57 < ogra_> ah, thats fine 18:57 < ogra_> i guess there might be other testers 19:11 ogra_ holds a talk (or rather a Q&A session) about arm in 50min at the ubuntu developer week ... in case you want to jump in :) 19:11 < ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek 19:11 < ogra_> happens in #ubuntu-classroom 19:17 < Snark> my parents-in-law will have arrived for dinner by then :-( 19:18 < Snark> double penalty : no talk and parents-in-law... *g* 19:18 < ogra_> heh 19:18 < ogra_> thats what you get when marrying :) 19:22 < Snark> don't start me on this... 19:27 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-38-218.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-70-164.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:46 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> whoops 19:46 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> no space left on device 19:47 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> that was one game too much 19:47 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ...or 2 or 3 19:47 < ogra_> heh 19:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052067235.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:56 < Snark> Dr_Azrael_Tod, isn't nethack enough? 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"do you hate disabled people?"? 19:59 < ogra_> we had our share of lennartOS ... been burned by it badly and now consider his submissions very carefully :) 20:00 < Alex[sp3dev]> ogra_: indeed, it's good that debian doesn't switch to anything new. although a declarative syntax for services looks better than init.d scripts 20:00 < ogra_> systemd will surely not land in ubuntu in the near future .... 20:01 ogra_ starts his talk in #ubuntu-classroom 20:02 < Alex[sp3dev]> btw, a bit offtopic, but look what M$ have done. some 10 years after handhelds.org http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-29-43/8306.Photo_2D00_0052.jpg 20:17 <*> ogra_ is now known as ogra 20:18 <*> Quits ->ogra [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 20:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra [~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] 20:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 20:49 < phh> Alex[sp3dev]: W7 for arm ? 20:50 < phh> or an asus x86 ? 20:51 < Alex[sp3dev]> phh: the former 20:52 < phh> funny 21:01 <*> ogra is now known as ogra_ 21:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->moa5505 [bc3eba41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.62.186.65] 21:02 < moa5505> hello 21:02 < moa5505> I had a little Idea which will maybe help the ac100 developers 21:04 < moa5505> I saw that devellopers are quite active in a tegra 2 device (LG p990) and their new kernels are a major improvement (compairing to stock) 21:04 < ogra_> what kernel version do they base on ? 21:05 < moa5505> so maybe there is some tweaks which are possible to port to the ac100 21:06 < moa5505> I think there are two version: one is 2.6.32.59 21:06 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-xuxabijevanhuqbm] [Quit: Verlassend] 21:06 < ogra_> oh m 21:06 < ogra_> y 21:06 < moa5505> and the other is 3.0.34 21:06 < ogra_> thats antique 21:06 < moa5505> the p990 is still on android 2.3 ^^ 21:06 < ogra_> ac100 is at 3.1 (stable) respective 3.5 21:07 < ogra_> (dev) 21:07 < moa5505> and the tweaks cannot be used in a newer version ? 21:08 < ogra_> dunno, its a matter of the amount of work you have to do to port it over 21:08 < ogra_> that differs indeed from driver to driver 21:08 < ogra_> there isnt much that doesnt work on the ac100 nowadays though 21:09 < moa5505> tweaks would give more autonomy and solve (maybe) the heat problem 21:09 < phh> ???? 21:09 < phh> what heat problem ??? 21:10 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> there is a heat problem? 21:10 < phh> "yeah, when you o/c it at 1.5GHz and let it run for 5hours on ac in a bag" 21:10 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> niahahaha 21:10 < Alex[sp3dev]> how about making a GUI for tweaks and call it "ultimate ac100 tweaker pro" and sell it for $35. 21:11 < phh> (ok a bit of cpu intensive usage is enough to make it warm) 21:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> warm is not hot 21:13 < ogra_> Alex[sp3dev], i'm in, when do we start ! 21:13 < ogra_> we'll make a fortune !!!! 21:13 < ogra_> (well, probably $70 from 2 users that arent getting it and pay) 21:13 < Alex[sp3dev]> indeed. all windoze shareware developers have become billionaires 21:15 < ogra_> http://comehackwithus.com/ 21:15 < ogra_> wow 21:16 < ogra_> we should do our planning session at that hackathin !# 21:16 < ogra_> *hackathon 21:17 < ogra_> hack sessions on tropical islands ... what an awesome idea 21:18 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:26 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:29 < moa5505> re 21:30 < moa5505> here : "Time from battery work ~3-4 hours (its not power save) & AC100 little heat - partially done, use Powersave profile CpuMasterFree. Its increase battery life up to 6-7 hours & heat off." 21:31 < moa5505> http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/ac100-rom-development/3562-android-4-0-toshiba-ac100-firmware-review-installation-ice-cream-sandvich-4-0-a.html 21:35 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@217.118.78.42] 21:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:41 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@217.118.78.42] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-19-13.21-151.libero.it] 22:18 < marvin24> moa5505: that's the same kernel we use 22:18 < marvin24> unless zombah did some magic 22:20 < marvin24> we -> means linux netbook system (not android) 22:30 < zombah> nothing special about battery life, maybe android itself better this way 22:36 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-19-13.21-151.libero.it] [Read error: No route to host] 22:44 <*> Quits ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:51 < moa5505> https://github.com/vadonka/lge-kernel-kang 22:51 < moa5505> just in case 22:52 < moa5505> I just saw I didn't post the link I was talking about 22:52 <*> Quits ->moa5505 [bc3eba41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.62.186.65] [Quit: Page closed] 22:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-19-13.21-151.libero.it] 22:58 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 23:01 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 23:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->moa5505 [bc3ec42b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.62.196.43] 23:30 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Day changed Wed Aug 29 2012 00:29 <*> Quits ->moa5505 [bc3ec42b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.62.196.43] [Quit: Page closed] 00:36 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Quit: Page closed] 01:24 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052067235.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:29 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-19-13.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 02:32 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 03:57 <*> Quits ->balrog-k2n [~balrog@89-67-121-18.dynamic.chello.pl] [Quit: Time to see if this new kernel is worth anything] 04:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@123.114.46.197] 05:05 <*> Quits ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-27-78.tky.mesh.ad.jp] [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:08 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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15:14 < ogra_> yes 15:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-pgujdcwoobzgkspb] 15:44 < phh> i installed quantal :( 15:44 < ogra_> phh, ah, well, just install precise on your other ac100 ;) 15:45 < phh> i guess i could 15:45 < ogra_> or justz wait, srwarren is aware that we need an ABI 13 build (and i think he forwarded the request) and the x86 nvidia drivers just got their new ABI this week 15:46 < ogra_> so it cant be lon anmore until we have working quantal packages 15:46 < sszymczy> ogra_: you mean with kernel and rootfs from nvidia? 15:47 < ogra_> sszymczy, no 15:47 < ogra_> i mean the nvidia-tegra package in the ubuntu archive 15:47 < ogra_> i doubt anyone uses the nvidia rootfs on ac100 15:48 < ogra_> and definitely not the kernel :) 15:48 <*> Quits ->ZyTer [~oliv@wwwcache.univ-lr.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ZyTer [~oliv@wwwcache.univ-lr.fr] 15:49 < sszymczy> too bad, I'd like to have multimedia decoding acceleration working 15:49 < sszymczy> but no luck with this so far :/ 15:51 < sszymczy> did it work on ubuntu 11.10 with L4T 12? 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16:54 < rpiloose> ogra_: no until you advise me to do so 16:54 < ogra_> ?? 16:55 < ogra_> i mean the 2.2 bootloader wont allow you to switch between android and ubuntu 16:57 < rpiloose> ogra_: I don't plan to downgrade to bootloader 2.1, yes I know but this an not my goal, just do a try with quantal 16:57 < ogra_> ah. k 17:07 < rpiloose> Ubuntu Boot Img and nothing... probably frozen... 17:11 < rpiloose> ah, after reading the cmdline of quantal-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.bootimg, I saw this is not intended root=/dev/mmcblk0p7 17:11 < ogra_> bootimg will not use root= at all 17:11 < rpiloose> time to give a try to putusb... PaulFertser will be happ! ;-) 17:12 < ogra_> the installer ignores it .... and after untarring it sets a proper value for root=UUID= in your bootloader 17:12 < rpiloose> putusb --> http://ac100.grandou.net/putusb?s[]=putusb 17:14 < rpiloose> ogra_: I unsetted quiet and splash for verbose and debug, but I don't get any kernel printk, then it even don't boot, stuck at Ubuntu Boot Img and sign of life (even Caps Locks off) 17:15 < rpiloose> +no 17:15 < ogra_> quiet and splash alre also ignored by the bootim 17:15 < ogra_> g 17:16 < ogra_> all the bootimg does it jump into an initrd that looks for the traball, formats the target part., untars, sets up the bootloade and reboots into a graphical session 17:16 < ogra_> there is no rootfs or anythin involved 17:16 < rpiloose> ogra_: ok, then kernel even not loaded because no caps locks tricks, is the bootloader 2.2 unfriend for quantal 17:17 < ogra_> that might be 17:17 < rpiloose> ogra_: ok, ok 17:17 < ogra_> in any case it looks like the kernel doesnt get through to teh initrd 17:17 < ogra_> i have no 2.2 devices in my pool ... 17:17 < ogra_> and i dont want to upgrade any of them 17:18 < rpiloose> ogra_: it seems something like that, yes rest of the safe face of the world, perhaps it is time for me to play with partition 2,3 and 4 with putusb... 17:19 < rpiloose> *on 17:19 < ogra_> yeah, make PaulFertser happy :) 17:22 < rpiloose> ogra_: the rootfs quantal-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz is on an external USB SATA-III HDD with a 4GB FAT32 partition, is it in the requirement of installation process? 17:23 < ogra_> fta32 USB disk should be fine, yeah 17:23 < ogra_> *fat32 17:24 < rpiloose> ogra_: msdos partition table + first primary partition 17:24 < ogra_> right, should work fine 17:24 < rpiloose> ogra_: muromec also too! 17:24 < ogra_> the installer just loops over all attached devices and checks if there is a tar,gz (and then compares md5 sums) 17:24 < ogra_> what you can try is to boot without any disk attached 17:25 < ogra_> it should drop you to an initramfs prompt, if it doesnt, it likely failed before the initrd 17:28 < rpiloose> ogra_: I don't put any checksum near by the rootfs as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100 instruction 17:29 < ogra_> no no, the instalöler itsefl runs md5sum on all files it finds 17:29 < ogra_> nothing you need to do 17:30 < ogra_> but try booting without any devices attached and see fi you land in the initrd shell 17:30 < ogra_> else you have a kernel prob 17:31 < rpiloose> ogra_: ok, second try w/o usb HDD attached and third try even w/o SD Card in slot, no sign of kernel booting 17:32 < rpiloose> ogra_: the putusb is my last option 17:35 < ogra_> yeah, looks like the kernel doesntz get along with your system 17:37 < rpiloose> ogra_: it's an AC100-114 (french) 17:37 < ogra_> must be the weird kbd layout that confuses it :P 17:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 17:40 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.129.171] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.129.171] --- Log opened Wed Aug 29 21:38:29 2012 21:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-94-28.21-151.libero.it] 22:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g229044007.adsl.alicedsl.de] 22:11 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] 22:19 < minimec> zombah: Hi. I see that you are involved in the Android 4.0 ac100 port. I am relly blown away with the results. One question. Do you have any precompiled joydev.ko for the current 3.1.10 android kernel? Joystick support is mentioned on the tabletroms forum, but I don't find any driver in /system/lib/modules... 22:24 < minimec> tv 22:26 < woglinde> minimec recompile the kernel yourself? 22:28 < minimec> woglinde: first of all I would need the sources of it. I don't think that they come with the image we use. That would certainly blow up the image... 22:29 < minimec> woglinde: And I have to agree, that my last kernel compilation is years ago. Would an android kernel be compiled the same way? Never compiled an android kernel. 22:34 < zombah> minimec: hi, dont remember about joytick, give me config line from kernel ill include it it next version 22:35 < zombah> on main page of googlecode i have links to git of kernel sources and device config 22:38 < minimec> zombah: You got me.. ;) What would you mean with 'config line'? Is there a kernel config file somewhere on the system? uname -a gives me '3.1.10+ #1' 22:38 < minimec> zombah: I will have a look at googlecode 22:38 < zombah> minimec: kernel config inside source, called paz00_android_defconfig 22:39 < zombah> minimec: btw ps3 joy detected find connected by usb 22:39 < zombah> fine i mean 22:40 < minimec> zombah: ok.. hmmm... I have a wireless usb jystick here. I will do some testing... 22:41 < minimec> zombah: Logitech usb wireless joystick... 22:41 < zombah> minimec: google with config it requier 22:41 < zombah> which config i mean 22:41 < minimec> zombah: I need GamePAd IME, right? 22:42 < zombah> minimec: dunno i never investigated this ability 22:50 < minimec> zombah: Did some testing. The device is 'seen' by the system, but I guess no module is loaded, so the joystick would not be connected to a 'input' device. 22:55 < minimec> zombah: On the googlecode homepage i find this: Not yet migrated to googlecode: 3.1.10 kernel paz00 common device tree ac100_116 specific config 22:55 < minimec> zombah: My config directory is empty 22:56 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-94-28.21-151.libero.it] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:57 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 23:01 <*> Quits ->flesh1911 [~flesh1911@176.195.224.77] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->brutal [~Brutal@188.134.37.8] 23:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-94-28.21-151.libero.it] 23:10 < zombah> minimec: 3.1.10 kernel link is the kernel 23:10 < zombah> minimec: you can see input device info with dumpsys window in terminal or adb 23:13 < minimec> zombah: I see. I visited the gitorius repo. Still searching that paz00 file. I am a little bit lost on tha terminal. The keys of the keyboard are different. 23:14 < zombah> minimec: switch to 3.1-exp branch config in arch/arm/config directory 23:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 23:18 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Quit: Leaving.] 23:20 < minimec> zombah: Ok. Got it. In the current paz00 config file on line 1364: # 'CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV is not set'. Maybe it would be cool for future kernels to enable it. Anyway: THX for your help. I have all the info and files no to compile my own kernel, but I have to read a little bit more, to fresh up my kernel compilation knowledge... ;) 23:20 < minimec> zombah: https://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-marvin24s-kernel/blobs/linux-tegra-nv-ac100-3.1-exp/arch/arm/configs/paz00_android_defconfig 23:20 < zombah> minimec: ok i will include it in next build 23:21 < minimec> zombah: THX 23:30 < wmeyer`> the life battery of my ac100 is not very good, what would you recomend? 23:30 < woglinde> wmeyer android or ubuntu? 23:31 < woglinde> minimec its not that hard but you need a toolchain 23:31 < woglinde> for crosscompiling 23:32 < minimec> woglinde: I am reding some android howto. In the end I would have to 'package' it with abootimg, right? 23:33 < woglinde> yes 23:33 < woglinde> but thats another step 23:33 < woglinde> has nothing todo with kernel compiling and of course you must copy over the modules 23:33 < woglinde> or include it in kernel rather than modul 23:35 < minimec> woglinde: right. Well I will not compile it tonight. 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I've read that with tegra abi driver memory change respect fb driver 15:51 < ogra_> if your system boots, tegrapart is fine 15:52 < woglinde> hi ogra 15:52 < ogra_> yo 15:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 15:59 <*> leviathan is now known as Guest45186 16:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.70.21] 16:02 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:09 < mase76> so you use rel-15r7-ac100? i thought this is a pure android branch. 16:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juice19 [~sky61019@122.234.241.130] 16:21 <*> Quits ->juice19 [~sky61019@122.234.241.130] [Quit: 离开] 16:29 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A7CC.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A7CC.dip.t-dialin.net] 16:32 < mase76> and after a while i get a key repeat while typing, and then the system freezes. 16:48 < mase76> the same with nv not installed. 16:48 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052067247.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:49 <*> Quits ->antonl [~anton@213.33.220.118] [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59 <*> Quits ->iz1glg [8b801232@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.128.18.50] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:00 < marvin24> mase76: yes, rel-15r7-ac100 is the android branch 17:00 < marvin24> it has more bug fixes than the l4t branch 17:01 < mase76> you use it? 17:01 < marvin24> we are just waiting for nv to update it 17:01 < marvin24> no, I use l4t 17:01 < marvin24> maybe that was the wrong decission 17:01 < mase76> you also have that key repeat issue? 17:02 < marvin24> sometimes 17:02 < marvin24> could be nvec related 17:02 < marvin24> so this is our bug 17:03 < mase76> any your system freezes then? 17:03 < marvin24> no, not that I remember 17:04 < mase76> then rel-15r7 should have this bug, too. 17:05 < mase76> i will build it and try. 17:06 < zombah> rel-15r7 has more nvec problems that 3.1-exp for sure, even preemption to none dont help me on it 17:07 < zombah> nvec transfer problems every boot after some use time 17:08 < mase76> i hope, that my hw modification does not cause this. 17:09 < ogra_> try a tested ubuntu image and see :) 17:11 < mase76> i built in the modification for switchable host / client mode. but i had to bridge d1. switching works now, not in my running system, but when entering download mode. 17:12 < mase76> it could also be an issue with my connected usb mouse. 17:28 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:31 < marvin24> I would even be happy to get device mode working again 17:31 < marvin24> currently, the mini usb is of no use at all 17:32 < mase76> you modified the hw? 17:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 17:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 17:36 < marvin24> no 17:37 < marvin24> but it was working with the .38 kernel 17:37 < marvin24> mase76: and I can't see why it doesn't on 3.1 17:37 < marvin24> (3.0 had no support for it) 18:26 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 18:36 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Daviey, pol, Eruquen, RaYmAn 18:40 <*> Netsplit over, joins: Daviey, Eruquen, pol, RaYmAn 18:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@222.130.139.172] 18:43 <*> Quits ->savalik1 [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:52 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@222.130.139.172] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:58 <*> Quits ->Guest45186 [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 19:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->q4a [2e1dd43a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.29.212.58] 19:04 <*> leviathan is now known as Guest34140 19:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052067247.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:21 < q4a> hi all. I just installed lastest lubuntu 12.10 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/current/ but after installing nvidia-tegra package i got es2_info says: "Error: eglInitialize() failed." =( 19:23 < woglinde> q4a check if the rights libs are loaded and the mesa-gl packages dont interfere 19:23 < q4a> i tried nvidia-tegra r15 release and beta packages, libcairo2 1.12.2-1ubuntu1 and 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu2 , but result is the same =( 19:23 < q4a> woglinde: ok, i'll check 19:24 < marvin24> q4a: nvidia blob does not support 12.10 yet 19:26 < q4a> marvin24: is this because kernel package, cairo or what ? 19:27 < marvin24> xorg abi 19:37 < q4a> marvin24: so, problem is on ubuntu side (xorg 1.12 bad package) or nvidia (bad tegra_drv.abi12.so from r15 driver) ? 19:37 < marvin24> q4a: nothing bad at all 19:38 < marvin24> nvidia needs to update their driver to support newer versions of xorg 19:38 < marvin24> it's no ones fault, just normal life 19:38 < marvin24> (of software) 19:39 < q4a> marvin24: ok, thanks for answers. It's normal for proprietary software close to kernel =( 19:40 < marvin24> well, this time it is the xorg interface, not the kernel 19:40 < marvin24> but you are right, proprietary software problem 19:41 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052067247.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:48 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-gqipdifnxqcpbztu] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p54943E23.dip.t-dialin.net] 20:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-a [~qicruser@83.149.9.6] 20:35 < marvin24> mase76: you can just disable mmc clock gating to get rid of the kernel warnings 20:35 <*> Quits ->fly-a [~qicruser@83.149.9.6] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-a [~qicruser@83.149.9.26] 20:46 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A7CC.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@217.118.78.38] 20:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 20:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 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Dr_Azrael_Tod> cubieboard looks nice 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> SoC – AllWinner A10 1GHz ARM cortex-A8 processor with Mali400 GPU 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> System RAM – 1GB DDR3 @400MHz 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> Storage – 2 MMC slot 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> Video Output – HDMI 1080p 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> Connectivity – 10/100M Ethernet 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> USB – 2 USB Host, 1 USB OTG 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> 1 IR sensor 10:11 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> 96 expansion pins including i2c, spi, lvds, sata… 10:17 < marvin24> and half as slow than the ac100 10:17 < marvin24> at the same price 10:19 < woglinde> marvin but mali gpu 10:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> $50 isn't the same price anymore 10:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and it has sata 10:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and 1GB RAM 10:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and 2 USB-Ports 10:28 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i guess it could be pretty much usable as mediacenter-foo 10:40 < marvin24> and no display, no keyboard or touchpad 10:42 < c4rg> is vanilla Linux now stable on ac100? ;) 10:42 < marvin24> c4rg: it was always stable 10:43 < marvin24> just missing some "features" 10:43 < c4rg> ;p 10:43 < woglinde> uhm sata 10:43 < marvin24> Dr_Azrael_Tod: this has a better performance/price ratio: http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php 10:44 < marvin24> c4rg: you can checkout my for-next branch if you want display support 10:45 < woglinde> hn odroid has no sata 10:47 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] 10:47 < woglinde> hi zombah 10:47 < marvin24> woglinde: you can add a usb->sata converter 10:47 < marvin24> ;-) 10:48 < zombah> hello woglinde 10:48 < zombah> hello everybody 10:49 < woglinde> marvin no thanks 10:51 < c4rg> marvin24: display support? :) 10:52 < marvin24> I mean some driver to lid up the candle and output something readable 10:52 < marvin24> aka tegra drm 10:52 < c4rg> mhm 10:52 < woglinde> *g* 10:54 < woglinde> marvin you are into uboot now too? 10:55 < c4rg> ah, you're talking about uboot 10:57 < woglinde> no 10:57 < woglinde> I only saw marvins gitorious site 10:58 <*> Quits ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] [Quit: Time to join real life] 11:02 < marvin24> c4rg: no, I mean this kernel here: http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/commits/for-next 11:03 < woglinde> marvin24 which kernel you now using? 11:09 < c4rg> mhm 11:09 < c4rg> do you know if jak pushed new debian packages with kernel? 11:16 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> marvin24: no sata, more then double the price, ... 11:16 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> yes it's nice, but if you don't need the performance, why should you buy it? 11:16 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ie. mediacenter-foo 12:13 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> lazarus1.0 is released and instantly fpc-related bugs pop up :D 12:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Guest87276 [~derp@77-253-123-58.adsl.inetia.pl] 12:17 <*> Guest87276 is now known as DaZ 12:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] 12:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 12:30 < marvin24> zombah: what is this patch used for http://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-marvin24s-kernel/commit/cb143cca6897dceb0b0da32c398b28c942084ed2 ? 12:31 < marvin24> and where does it come from? 12:36 < zombah> marvin24: i think i found it in one of these repos https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/tegra/ 12:36 < zombah> marvin24: but i dont know yet is it help something or not 12:36 < woglinde> zombah why didnt you used cherry-pcik? 12:36 < zombah> woglinde: i added it only for test 12:36 < woglinde> hm ah okay 12:37 < zombah> woglinde: to see is there any effect or not, but no any visible effects yet 12:40 < zombah> now i think its probably useless, as all my suspend problems seems to root in that nvec lacks wakelock support 12:41 < phh> what ? someone implemented wakelocks in nvec ? 12:42 < zombah> phh: no, they were in old driver in 2.6.32, but now not implemented 12:42 < phh> erf, i missed the "lacks" 12:43 < zombah> because of this sleep on android nearly not working at all 12:43 < phh> can you be a bit more specific ? 12:46 < zombah> phh: most of time i have system reboot on suspend tries, some times total freeze. in rare cases visualy look like suspended, but in couple of hours battery drained 12:47 < phh> reboot on suspend can't be because of nvec 12:47 < phh> and i doubt that wrongly suspended is nvec either 12:47 < zombah> phh: http://pastebin.com/ZiwqMs7C 12:47 < phh> for that one, you need to enable wakelock debugging 12:48 < zombah> phh: now i have wakelock debugging on by default in my android builds, probably will catch some usefull log 12:50 < phh> hum, it might sound like i2c is disabled in early suspend 12:50 < phh> marvin24: how is i2c master mode handled nowadays ? 13:28 < marvin24> zombah: the crash is maybe due to the errors earlier 13:28 < marvin24> (out of tx buf space) 13:28 < marvin24> we don't check if we get a message buffer 13:29 < marvin24> zombah: btw, I think I fixed the nvec crashes in my android branch 13:29 < marvin24> I applied a bogus patch which I reverted now 13:30 < marvin24> phh: we may also use wakelocks 13:30 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:30 < marvin24> I think they are in both 3.1 branches 13:30 marvin24 checks 13:31 < marvin24> yep 13:32 < marvin24> also mainline received it recently 13:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-181-123.as13285.net] 13:39 < paultrafalgar> http://gadgetmix.com/qualcomm-s4-pro-tablet.html 13:41 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> neat 13:42 < woglinde> paul 1300$ 13:42 < woglinde> you get two ipads for this price 13:43 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. it's not aimed at consumers 13:43 < paultrafalgar> much too expensive i agree 13:44 < woglinde> dr_azrael sure, but mostly companies buys sample boards not fully devices 13:44 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> right 13:44 < woglinde> so i wonder how useless this is 13:45 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> if it would have a true keyboard, one could market it as "ultrabook-killer" 13:45 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ^^ 13:45 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> of course then i needs more ram/ssd 13:55 < zombah> marvin24: bogus patch you mean disable otg? 13:55 < marvin24> no, the one before (bogus nvec patch) 13:58 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-181-123.as13285.net] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:58 < zombah> marvin24: this one i also reverted "ARM: tegra: paz00: temporary disable udc/otg" this one makes usb gadget crash on boot. 13:58 < zombah> marvin24: will try later results with out second one 13:59 < marvin24> crashes if you boot with u-boot only 13:59 < marvin24> maybe no one cares for now 14:00 < zombah> marvin24: it crash android usb gadget on adbd start 14:01 < marvin24> oh 14:01 < zombah> marvin24: i have log if you interested http://pastebin.com/g79Ea05c with out it adbd start fine and system boot 14:02 < zombah> marvin24: so i reverted it log aga, just then you made rel-15r7 branch 14:02 < zombah> long ago i mean 14:03 < marvin24> until yesterday ;-) 14:03 < marvin24> there is definitely something wrong with it 14:04 < marvin24> we should at least get usb device support 14:12 < zombah> ill test rel-15r7 branch with android again in the evening 14:14 < marvin24> ok, nice 14:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BECB.dip.t-dialin.net] 14:16 < marvin24> hey mase76 14:17 < marvin24> did you got the nvec problem with the "staging: nvec: read back values written to i2c registers" reverted? 14:20 < mase76> hi! i don't know. i can only say, that there are massive kb problems. and the kernel messages are still there, even with gatering disabled. 14:21 < marvin24> but maybe from some different device now? (not sdhci) 14:22 < mase76> no, it is the same. 14:24 < marvin24> mmh, it vanished here after disabling clock gating 14:27 < mase76> but could this have something to do with the kb problems? 14:28 < marvin24> I don't think so 14:28 < marvin24> mase76: maybe you can start with paz00_android_defconfig if it works our for you 14:29 < marvin24> there are too many kernel options nowadays 14:29 < marvin24> which can harm your system 14:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-jjxfvbxezmzejhhp] 14:30 < mase76> i took the config from the ubuntu repo kernel, and enabled some more devices. nothing more. 14:30 < zombah> android defconfig lacks some vital linux options, like vtys and sysv maybe smthing else. be carefull 14:31 < mase76> android defconfig or the normal paz00 defconfig? 14:32 < zombah> paz00_android_defconfig 14:32 < mase76> last time i used defconfig, the whole network stuff was missing. is it still so? 14:32 < marvin24> zombah: I don't think there is something vital missing 14:33 < marvin24> I limited hw support to what we have 14:33 < marvin24> so all usb stuff you can plug in is not enabled 14:33 < zombah> marvin24: i never tried to boot linux with it, so it was my guess, you maybe right 14:33 < marvin24> zombah: the config may look small because it is generated with make savedefconfig 14:33 < marvin24> which will skip everything which is enabled by default 14:34 < marvin24> and only include the "changes" 14:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->barnabe619 [bc3ec42b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.62.196.43] 14:34 < barnabe619> hello 14:35 < barnabe619> I would like to know how to see the kernel sources (ac100) 14:35 < woglinde> barnabe android or ubuntu? 14:36 < marvin24> barnabe619: ubuntu kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=jani/ubuntu-ac100.git;a=summary 14:36 < barnabe619> ubuntu 14:36 < barnabe619> thak you 14:36 < barnabe619> thank you* 14:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-29-211.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 14:47 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> hmm.. has anyone thought about a way to run a usable dalvik on arm-linux? 14:53 < woglinde> ? 14:54 < phh> you mean, like running android ? 14:54 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> yes 14:54 < phh> i mean ... the way is to run android 14:54 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but not like running an arm-emulator that runs java 14:55 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> you mean dualboot? 14:55 < phh> ok, you meant on standard gnu/linux. 14:55 < stuw> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Myriad-Group-Myriad-Alien-Dalvik/ 14:55 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ah 14:55 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> myriadpro 14:55 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i forgot about that 14:56 < stuw> didn't see any updates 14:56 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> maybe that could work 14:56 < stuw> maybe :) 14:56 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. didn't hear much about it in the last months 14:56 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> saw some devices that bundled it 14:57 < stuw> I saw only that post 14:57 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but thats at least better then nothing (like bluestacks and the likes) 14:57 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> -pro +alien dalvik 14:57 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> myriad pro was a font and i mixed things up 14:59 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> at last years droidcon in berlin there were some talks about alien-dalvik and bluestacks 15:02 < |jbrown|> Dr_Azrael_Tod: you can run Android on a Pandora -- I think it runs as a user-level process, at least you don't need to reboot to start it (uses the same kernel as regular linux) 15:03 < |jbrown|> maybe ideas can be stolen from there :-) 15:04 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> didn't they just dualboot? 15:04 < |jbrown|> http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/8626-android-gingerbread-in-a-pnd/ 15:05 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> nice 15:06 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> seems like i should take a look at ti rowboat 15:07 < |jbrown|> is that what it's based on? 15:07 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> yes 15:07 < |jbrown|> aha, ok. 15:08 < mase76> i made the defconfig and enabled some more usb devices, filesystems and nfs server support. i also need automounter support. but this should not affect the nvec. building and testing... 15:10 < barnabe619> just a question, would it be possible to add this commit to the ac100 kernel ?? (I am no expert, but I have not found it in the sources) 15:10 < barnabe619> https://github.com/vadonka/lge-kernel-kang/commit/66b656063f6fb1097bcd1344c7963b107af3ab9d 15:12 < marvin24> mase76: thanks! 15:13 < marvin24> barnabe619: he, we have hw crypto support 15:15 < barnabe619> so it is useless ^^ 15:15 < barnabe619> thank you 15:18 < marvin24> barnabe619: well, the cpu is faster than the crypto hw 15:18 < marvin24> so it depends on the kind of work you want to do 15:18 < marvin24> (or workload) 15:19 < barnabe619> So the best would be to give the "passive" work to the HW and the "active" work to the CPU, right ? 15:20 < woglinde> marvin but the hw support wasnt enough for wlan 15:21 < marvin24> if you don't needs so much throughput, you can save some cpu power with the crypto hw 15:21 < marvin24> I think it was 20 MB/s for AES 15:21 < marvin24> just enough for disk io 15:22 < marvin24> but maybe I mind already suffers from my age 15:23 < barnabe619> does the crypto hw need more power than the extra Cpu load ? 15:24 < ogra_> marvin24, age ? arent you 24 ? :P 15:24 < woglinde> no 15:24 < woglinde> it wasnt enough for disk io 15:24 < woglinde> hi ogra 15:24 < marvin24> as much as 48 is near to 84 15:24 < ogra_> (and i was already wondering why the 24 doesnt rise with every year) 15:24 < ogra_> :P 15:27 < marvin24> looking at the crypto driver, all ciphers seem to be disabled 15:29 < ogra_> that will make it at least really fast 15:31 < marvin24> without a usecase, it is useless anyway 15:31 < barnabe619> faster is better :D 15:32 < marvin24> as I said, if the cpu is busy on crypting, it cannot do something else 15:32 < marvin24> so in some cases it makes sense to offload that work 15:34 < woglinde> hm 15:34 < woglinde> where is gordon 15:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 15:34 < woglinde> he knows best of usefull szenarios with the crypto hw 15:34 < marvin24> wifi has its own crypto hw 15:35 < woglinde> that too 15:35 < marvin24> dm can't be used because of the initrd limitations 15:35 < ogra_> well, we swithced to lz ... might be that its possible now 15:36 < ogra_> though i plan to enable plymouth if it actually is 15:36 < ogra_> which will eat the freed space 15:36 < marvin24> space cake eater 15:36 < ogra_> heh 15:37 < marvin24> plymouth is really a waste of space 15:37 < marvin24> and cpu time I guess 15:38 < ogra_> its a waste of time having to invest time maintaining a hack to disable it 15:38 < ogra_> at some point i would like ot have a hack feree ac100 image :) 15:38 < ogra_> *free 15:38 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> hahahaha 15:39 < marvin24> ogra_: or "mainline" the switch to disable it 15:39 < ogra_> if we wouldnt have that hacked partitioning i would actually have switched ac100 to normal live images 15:39 < ogra_> marvin24, its not a "switch" its a really gross hack 15:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik_ [d9764e2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.118.78.42] 15:40 < marvin24> with a bit more luck, we can use u-boot for 13.04 15:41 < marvin24> then you can add anything you want 15:41 < ogra_> hopefully from the mainline tree (linaro) 15:41 < marvin24> (or wasn't there a 64 M limit on arm?) 15:41 < marvin24> ogra_: sure 15:41 < marvin24> for both, u-boot and kernel 15:41 < ogra_> sadly that wont fix the partitioning completely 15:42 < ogra_> you will still need tegrapart to reserve the bootloader space 15:42 < ogra_> or is there any clean and easy way to use u-boot without the first stage loader 15:43 < savalik_> anybody know how use kexecboot ? usb device dont work for me >_< 15:44 < marvin24> ogra_: we can use a efi partition table 15:44 < savalik_> mm..sorry..Hello everybody ;) 15:44 < marvin24> and kill all the fastboot magic 15:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juice19 [~sky61019@60.177.177.81] 15:46 < savalik_> http://pastebin.com/c3zfnwdx my dmesg =) 15:48 < ogra_> marvin24, hmm, possibly 15:48 < marvin24> savalik_: maybe time to update the kernel first 15:48 <*> Quits ->ZyTer [~oliv@193.49.30.34] [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48 ogra_ wonders why savalik_ uses such an old kernel and compiler 15:49 < ogra_> ah, snap :) 15:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ZyTer [~oliv@wwwcache.univ-lr.fr] 15:54 < savalik_> marvin24: ok ..i will try 3.1 =) 15:58 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://phandroid.com/2012/08/31/new-processor-is-what-took-huawei-mediapad-10-fhd-so-long-to-come-and-its-coming-in-september/ 16:00 < |jbrown|> nice 16:05 <*> Quits ->savalik_ [d9764e2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.118.78.42] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:07 < woglinde> hm today could have attend IFA 16:07 < ogra_> are you in berlin ? 16:07 < woglinde> everyday 16:08 < ogra_> ah 16:08 < woglinde> I thought you know that already 16:08 < ogra_> i might but forgot :) 16:08 ogra_ refers to marvin24's old age commant above as excuse :) 16:08 < ogra_> *comment 16:09 < woglinde> haha 16:18 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> who remembers things anyways? 16:21 < phh> Dr_Azrael_Tod: err, i need that 16:21 < phh> wait, where is the ram. 16:21 < phh> not said, obviously 16:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@222.130.139.172] 16:39 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225145103.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:11 <*> Quits ->juice19 [~sky61019@60.177.177.81] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:14 <*> Quits ->barnabe619 [bc3ec42b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.62.196.43] [Quit: Page closed] 17:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225145103.adsl.alicedsl.de] 17:31 < mase76> what is that? flash-kernel throws unsupported platform. 17:33 < woglinde> mase hm you forgot tegra parts stuff? 17:34 < mase76> i used defconfig 17:38 < mase76> i make a kpkg clean and build again... 17:40 < woglinde> hm 17:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juice19 [~sky61019@60.177.177.81] 17:49 <*> Quits ->juice19 [~sky61019@60.177.177.81] [Quit: 离开] 18:20 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225145103.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3BECB.dip.t-dialin.net] 18:27 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3BECB.dip.t-dialin.net] [Client Quit] 18:40 < marvin24> mase76: still there? 18:40 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:40 < marvin24> the machine was renamed for android 18:40 < marvin24> use abootimg instead of flash-kernel 18:43 < mase76> i must wait for the new build. ready soon. 19:10 < mase76> what was the command to flash with abootimg? -k ... -r ... 19:10 < marvin24> abootimg -u /dev/mmcblk0p2 -k zimage 19:13 < mase76> abootimg -u /dev/mmcblk0p2 -k vmlinuz-3.1.10-1-ac100 -r initrd.img-3.1.10-1-ac100 19:17 < marvin24> mase76: you may also add the bootimg.cfg 19:18 < mase76> may or must? i execute in /boot, where bootimg.cfg is. 19:18 < marvin24> I would do so 19:18 < marvin24> because sometimes abootimg just overwrites it 19:18 < marvin24> it doesn't matter where you exec it 19:19 < marvin24> as long as you specifiy the correct path 19:30 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@222.130.139.172] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:30 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BECB.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BECB.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:33 < mase76> seems to be cool now! i hope, that was no illusion! 19:35 < mase76> marvin24: do you think, you can add the patch to nvec for hostmode switching? as i have the necessary hw modifications, i could test, if it works some time. 19:35 < mase76> the kernel messages don't appear any more. 19:35 < mase76> till now. 19:43 < marvin24> mase76: host mode needs hw mod - doesn't it? 19:43 < marvin24> and what is with device mode? 19:46 < mase76> device mode is default by hw. 19:46 < mase76> what do i need for usb networking? i want to tether with my phone. 19:48 < mase76> the usb ethernet gadget? 19:48 < marvin24> yes 19:48 < marvin24> mmh, it doesn't work here 19:48 < marvin24> maybe I'm the only one 19:49 < marvin24> or maybe I was just too stupid to modprobe the device .... 19:49 < mase76> not enabled in defconfig 19:50 < mase76> and the mass storage gadget? could it be useful? 19:52 < mase76> the only part i needed for the hw mod was a ferrit perl. removing a resistor and short circuit to non present diode d1. 19:54 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 19:54 < marvin24> I enabled cdc_acm (network + console) 19:54 < marvin24> but as I said, it doesn't work 19:54 < marvin24> I think I can add an interface for the gpio 19:55 < mase76> last week it worked. so only a question of the right module. 19:55 < marvin24> that's shouldn't be a big problem 19:55 < marvin24> oh, really? 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I am trying to set a new one 15:20 < rpiloose> stuw__: but the future (BT) serial console (SPP) is already sold to my RaspberryPI! ;-) 15:21 < rpiloose> *soldered 15:21 < stuw__> :) 15:22 < rpiloose> stuw__: is your question is about a kernel crash on 20120831 installation image, the answer seem not 15:23 < rpiloose> *HDD 15:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 15:34 < rpiloose> for http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20120831/ here is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179619/ the content initramfs.debug when landed in initramfs shell 15:35 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.154.14] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.154.14] 16:06 < ogra_> rpiloose, did you check the md5sum of the tarball ? 16:07 < ogra_> looks like the script finds it but the size isnt correct 16:08 < ogra_> wc -c quantal-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz 16:08 < ogra_> that should show 432200794 bytes 16:10 < ogra_> (for the 20120831 bootimg and tag,gz that is ... ) 16:11 < ogra_> if you use the 20120901 bootimg, the tarball needs to be 432190107 16:11 < ogra_> (and i suppose you know that a bootimg only works with the same daily tarball) 16:14 < rpiloose> ogra_: yes, both file md5sum correct, size correct, but on the same partition I had 2 copy... 16:15 < rpiloose> ogra_: a feedback, don't try bootloader 2.2 with the current kernel... :-/ 16:17 < rpiloose> ogra_: see at line 117 in http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179619/ 16:18 < rpiloose> strangly, after removing one copy, installation didn't went in initramfs shell, just do nothing (kernel alive through caps lock led tricks) 16:18 < ogra_> oh, you had two tarballs on the same device ? 16:18 < ogra_> i dont think i vere tested such a situation 16:19 < rpiloose> I am downloading http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20120901/quantal-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz, schedule to end in 75min... 16:19 < ogra_> if you removed one, make sure its the right one ;) 16:19 < rpiloose> ogra_: yes, strange, because I was thinking need to be at root... 16:20 < rpiloose> *it 16:20 < ogra_> the tar.gz and bootimg are closely tied together ... a certain daily bootimg will only work with the same daily tarball 16:20 < ogra_> if it finds the other tarball on the usb disk it might get confused 16:23 < ogra_> ah, i see why 16:24 < ogra_> (though i dont really *get* why) 16:25 < rpiloose> ogra_: yes, when reading /scripts/installer I saw that at line 65, no trouble 16:25 < ogra_> find should only return the file with the right size ... i dont get why it finds two 16:25 <*> Quits ->stuw__ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25 < ogra_> h, wait, you have a *copy* of the same file in / and /20120831 16:26 < rpiloose> ogra_: 2 copy with the same md5sum/size and the find retrurn both... :-^ 16:26 < ogra_> thats the issue 16:26 < ogra_> yeah 16:26 < rpiloose> ogra_: yes in / and /20120831 16:26 < ogra_> not really an expected scenario :) 16:26 < ogra_> but i'll add a check for that in the next upload 16:26 < ogra_> so it just picks the first one found 16:26 < rpiloose> ogra_: oh no, I don't want to file a bug because of administrativia... 16:27 < ogra_> no need for a bug 16:27 < ogra_> its already on my TODO now ;) 16:28 ogra_ found today that his most used ac100 has a crack in the screen :( 16:28 < ogra_> time for a screen upgrade i guess 16:29 < rpiloose> ogra_: time to purchase a new 1368x768 screen? 16:29 < ogra_> 1280x720 16:30 < ogra_> http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271042881237&ssPageName=ADME:X:DERP:DE:1123 16:30 < ogra_> and odered :) 16:31 rpiloose but 512MB of RAM... 16:33 < ogra_> well, i migth also upgrade to a USB 3.0 SSD ... and use lots of swap :) 16:34 < ogra_> but i usually get along with the 512M 16:34 < ogra_> (i used the ac100 for nearly 2 years as my main machine) 16:39 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.154.14] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.154.14] 16:41 rpiloose finding a mean to bypass the NVEC with something like that: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/wireless-bluetooth-rs232-ttl-transceiver-module-80711 16:41 rpiloose lot of GPIO:http://www.dealextreme.com/customerphotos/quarantined/201108/80711-62c3fc11-39cf-4998-9b9e-334fecf41cf8.jpg 16:43 rpiloose reprogrammable cheaply:http://dangerousprototypes.com/2011/10/28/csr-bluetooth-tutorials/ 16:45 rpiloose and here:https://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=16425&sid=669e08bcbbdd1928e58ebf3f3941a936 16:48 rpiloose or here:http://elasticsheep.com/ 16:52 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@218.240.153.19] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:00 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Quit: sometimes shit happens] 17:07 rpiloose or here: http://byron76.blogspot.fr/ 17:26 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.154.14] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052228082.adsl.alicedsl.de] 17:37 <*> Quits ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-12-171.tky.mesh.ad.jp] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.143.152] 17:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 17:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-8-175.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 17:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 17:57 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052228082.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->minimec [~minimec@77-56-249-136.dclient.hispeed.ch] 18:34 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Quit: leaving] 19:08 < rpiloose> ogra_: about 20120831, in initramfs.debug (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1179930/) at line 132, there is the explanation why I need to put quantal-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz in the root 19:08 < rpiloose> of the first partition! -_-' 19:09 rpiloose next try with 20120901... 19:11 < rpiloose> ogra_: I forgot to tell you in my case the file was here:/tmp/tmp.kkucJe/20120831/quantal-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz 19:36 < rpiloose> well, well, when the archive in the root on FAT32 partition, the installation seems working! :-) 19:36 < rpiloose> note, that the battery was removed... 19:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052228082.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:49 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD39FFD.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@217.118.78.33] 19:59 <*> Quits ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 20:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->pfoetche1 [~pfoetchen@winc043.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de] 20:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Chipaca` [~John@ec2-46-137-162-6.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] 20:16 < rpiloose> about quantal alpha, how I can enter computer's name+username+... when the keyboard doesn't permit to fill this fields? 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I see you are still installing... So you cannot change it right now? 20:27 < rpiloose> minimec: hi, I can change it, but not the trouble, any field is selectable to input username and the likes 20:27 < rpiloose> minimec: even using an external usb keyboard don't improve the situation... 20:28 < minimec> rpiloose: Are you using yesterdays daily build? I think there is a lot of work going on. Maybe using the 'official' alpha-3 build would be a better solution http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.10/alpha-3/ 20:29 < rpiloose> minimec: today, 20120901, and when pressing alt key, only b of Back is selectable! 20:29 < minimec> rpiloose: I had to use that one, when I installed quantal, as the daily build was broken. 20:30 < minimec> rpiloose: I would consider installing the 'old' alpha3. I know that install works on that one. 20:30 < rpiloose> minimec: heu, trying ctrl+alt+f1 because I set a root password under SOSBOOT, but the keyboard layout is strange... 20:31 < minimec> rpiloose: As I said, there is a lot of work going on, as the ac100 team has to switch the desktop environment, as unity-2d has been removed. 20:31 < minimec> rpiloose: Keyboard layout should be US-standard 20:32 < rpiloose> minimec: no trouble, I am just trying to find a tips to succeed this installation ;-b 20:32 < rpiloose> minimec: I don't think it's en_US layout... 20:33 < minimec> rpiloose: Well I cannot help you here, as I used the alpha3 image, as mentioned. On alpha 3 it is en_US ;) 20:34 < rpiloose> minimec: ok, thank you very much, I will try via the console ;-) 20:36 rpiloose I <3 to have the rootfs on the SD Card ^-^ 20:36 < minimec> rpiloose: So do I... 20:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@178.76.204.60] 20:41 <*> Quits ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 20:48 < woglinde> hi alex 20:48 < woglinde> minimec ogra already switched t lxde 20:49 < minimec> woglinde: Ok. 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08:58 < rpiloose> this NULL msg is directly pass to nvec_msg_free here 08:58 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: it shouldn't happen often though, as mallocing a single message should always succeed provided the system is not really really tight on memory. 08:59 < rpiloose> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec.c#L888 09:03 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: hi, hum if you have a better explanation of what's happened here http://pastebin.com/ZiwqMs7C, I listen you 09:04 < rpiloose> may I suggest an add before http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec.c#L183 09:07 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: it all seems to start at 1098 "select 252 (droid.gsf.login), adj 12, size 4845, to kill", what is the reason for that? 09:08 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.128.40] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:08 < PaulFertser> And then timeout waiting for ec transfer, hm 09:09 < PaulFertser> Looks like there's a limited amout of buffers available and timeout doesn't free the buffer so after some timeouts there's no buffers left anymore. 09:10 < PaulFertser> Of course that's to be debugged too. 09:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.128.40] 09:10 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: it all seems to start at 1098 "select 252 (droid.gsf.login), adj 12, size 4845, to kill", what is the reason for that? 09:10 < PaulFertser> And then timeout waiting for ec transfer, hm 09:10 < PaulFertser> Looks like there's a limited amout of buffers available and timeout doesn't free the buffer so after some timeouts there's no buffers left anymore. 09:10 < PaulFertser> Why is zombah running a kernel without debug info (to have sane backtraces) and lockdep? 09:15 < PaulFertser> Yep, a fixed buffer for nvec messages, and message is never freed if there's a timeout. 09:15 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->svp [~svp@79.120.24.66] [] 09:16 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.128.40] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.128.40] 09:19 < rpiloose> something like that: if (msg == NULL || nvec_chip == NULL) return; 09:19 < rpiloose> because I am not sure that atomic_set love NULL (v) here 09:19 < rpiloose> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/include/asm/atomic.h#L30 09:20 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: "no buffers left anymore" --> need to merge identical messages inside the transmit queue (tx_data)? 09:20 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: i guess the problems start long before that. 09:20 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: it's either EC not responding to that gpio going low or the kernel not able to "sense" it probably due to some stale lock. 09:21 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: what we see in the log is just a consequence of many failed attempts at transmitting. 09:21 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: of course the code is buggy, it shouldn't fail like that when it's not able to transmit. 09:21 < PaulFertser> But that's not the reason for the problem itself afaict. 09:24 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: "it probably due to some stale lock" is it that https://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/commit/3a3b8b67a3347c38e20560002f90ebcc5128def4 09:24 < rpiloose> ? 09:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225144211.adsl.alicedsl.de] 09:27 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: probably not, but i'm not familiar with the nvec code. That commit is fine anyway. 09:28 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: zombah don't have this patch in its branch... 09:29 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: do you think that mutex can prevent that completion that indicates EC is ready to listen to occur? 09:33 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: http://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-marvin24s-kernel/blobs/chromeos-ac100-3.0/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec.c#line276 09:35 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: "but i'm not familiar with the nvec code" the only available documents... 09:35 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: http://www.scribd.com/doc/81447396/Tegra2-Embedded-Controller-Interface-Specification-20111117 09:36 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: "do you think that mutex can prevent that completion that indicates EC is ready to listen to occur? 09:38 < rpiloose> " --> the AP and EC communicate through I2C (SMBus), and our code flood this line without respecting I2C timming 09:38 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: after that we are surprise that's the EC doesn't seems to respond... :-/ 09:38 < rpiloose> *surprised 09:39 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: sending a message once in 5 seconds is hardly flooding 09:39 < PaulFertser> Also, the timings should be handled on the i2c driver level 09:42 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: yea yea, sometime our NVEC driver should said NACK to the upper layers. Flooded one this, dead for ever 09:43 < rpiloose> PaulFertser: and we don't know out to hard reset this beast (again no SPECs about EC firmware/protocol/or other closed things) 09:44 < rpiloose> *one time 09:49 < rpiloose> s/out/how/1 09:50 < PaulFertser> rpiloose: i'm not sure that's EC not answering, but who knows. 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I added some logs and found that tty0 is initialized with dummy con first. Then it is initialized again with fbcon. tty1 begins initialization with fbcon. fbcon_init do almost nothing, because var_to_display call fails (http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/blobs/rel-15r7-ac100/drivers/video/console/fbcon.c#line1035) 19:02 < PaulFertser> stuw_: btw, that behaviour (up to the fail) seems to be correct. First the dummy con should be used, then as soon as an FB driver is loaded, the console switches to it. 19:02 < PaulFertser> stuw_: if you use the special command "echo 0 > /sys/class/vtcon/fbcon1/bind" then you'll unbind the fb driver from the console and will be able to unload it fully (if it's compiled as a module). 19:04 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->stroughtonsmith [~steven@86-44-102-212-dynamic.b-ras2.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] [] 19:05 < stuw_> http://stuw.narod.ru/ac100/logs/tty1-init-failed.log 19:05 < PaulFertser> stuw_: i think tty1 is not created until something tries to use it. And if fbcon1 (real fb driver) already present, it's used. 19:05 < stuw_> PaulFertser, initialization fails before user login. 19:06 < PaulFertser> stuw_: tty1 is getting created by agetty most probably 19:06 < stuw_> PaulFertser, there is no same problem on ubuntu. I have no much expirience with consoles 19:06 < stuw_> PaulFertser, probably you are right 19:07 < stuw_> also there is no same problem with 3.0 19:07 < stuw_> problem with 3.1 only 19:09 < PaulFertser> stuw_: the log suggests that i'm right: the oops happens after the init is complete and agetty's are started 19:09 < PaulFertser> stuw_: but why are you using a kernel without debug symbols enabled and without lockdep_debug? 19:09 < PaulFertser> Ah, hm, debug symbols are there all right 19:10 < stuw_> I added BUG_ON. actually kernel tries to write to zero size buffer 19:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->onestep [~onestep@95.67.80.59] 19:10 < stuw_> PaulFertser, because I never tired it before :) Looks like it time to try :) 19:11 < PaulFertser> <0>Process agetty (pid: 317, stack limit = 0xc7e602f8) 19:14 < PaulFertser> stuw_: i'd try now to see what mode fb_match_mode can't find. 19:16 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombah@194.165.0.6] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombah@194.165.0.6] 19:24 <*> Quits ->onestep [~onestep@95.67.80.59] [Quit: Leaving] 19:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225005106.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->svp [~svp@79.120.24.66] 19:48 < stuw_> PaulFertser, I updated log. "!!! fb_match_mode: ". m and mode are here - http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/blobs/rel-15r7-ac100/drivers/video/modedb.c#line1422 19:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vraister [~friedrich@188-220-35-90.zone11.bethere.co.uk] 19:58 < PaulFertser> stuw_: so, apparently the mode as advertised by the fb driver doesn't match the proper mode 20:04 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:05 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-125-57.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-67-83.adsl.inetia.pl] 20:55 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:14 < zombah> marvin24: hello, current rel-15r7 suspend on android fine 3 times i just tried, but all times freeze on wakeup with no log to serial console http://pastebin.com/xjkFEeKg 21:20 <*> Parts[#ac100] 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resume, but our revision must not be affected by this issue 22:03 < zombah> marvin24: i can also test lp1 suspend, but dunno will it help debugging somehow or not 22:04 < marvin24> mmh, maybe all the debug message were missleading 22:08 < marvin24> it may help to disable some nvec parts 22:08 < marvin24> e.g. mouse, keyboard, power 22:08 < zombah> ok will test now 22:08 < marvin24> I often had problem with mouse causing resume failures 22:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos_ [~yaaic@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 22:28 < marvin24> looks like nvidia started an l4t/r16 release, without releasing r15 ... 22:28 < RaYmAn> hm - what kernel version is that 22:29 < RaYmAn> r16 that is. 22:30 < RaYmAn> hm still 3.1.10? odd. 22:33 <*> Quits ->|jbrown| [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35 < marvin24> yeah, they could have suprised us by rebasing upon 3.5 ;-) 22:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->jbrown [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] 22:42 < zombah> marvin24: same 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the ac100, I choose german during the installation, but everything is in english 00:31 < morgan> that is not a big problem, but I choosed the german keyboard in settings - now I can not login anymore 00:32 < morgan> but login on the terminals is working 00:33 < morgan> is this a bug? 00:36 < ogra_> definitely 00:47 <*> Quits ->woglinde_ [~henning@f052224081.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052224081.adsl.alicedsl.de] 00:53 < morgan> I tried a password change without special character to avoid keyboard differences de/en but it is also not working .... 00:55 < ogra_> try something really simple 123456 or so 00:55 < morgan> I tried to get an update, but the command but I get errors by loading sources ... wlan was connected ... 00:56 < ogra_> did you try if you can ping any host ? 00:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] 01:00 < ogra_> morgan, to fix the kbd you can edit /etc/default/keyboard 01:00 < ogra_> after that run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup 01:01 < ogra_> (it will ask some questions, just leave the defaults and hit enter until you get the prompt back) 01:02 < ogra_> just changing "us" to "de" in /etc/default/keyboard shoudl do it 01:12 < morgan> the very easy password is working 01:13 < morgan> I changed the us to de 01:13 < morgan> and internet is working 01:13 < ogra_> well, the fix above should work too, for the login manager to pick it up you need to reboot after the initramfs was rebuilt by the dpkg-reconfigure command 01:14 < ogra_> if thats working you should be able to switch your PW back to something safe 01:17 < morgan> yes, password changed - thanks 01:17 < morgan> some sources are not available 01:17 < morgan> http://www.xup.in/dl,11307088/61671paste.txt/ 01:18 < morgan> this is a part from the update log 01:19 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052224081.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:22 < morgan> it seems to me that it is not a local problem? 01:22 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everything disabled ? 12:29 < hanno> phh, hmm, how can i check? never heard of bash mini, but I doubt so 12:29 < phh> hanno: i don't know, but i guess you can disable pretty much everything at build time in bash 12:29 < hanno> I'll try zsh to check if it is something in bash 12:30 < hanno> uh, maybe I got something 12:31 < hanno> bash with disabled readline... 12:31 < hanno> I have disabled everything I though might not be so important to keep the system lean :-) 12:31 < phh> yeah ... readline could be useful for tab and history, indeed. 12:32 < hanno> will check 12:32 < hanno> one more thing (but rather less important) - sound doesn't work 12:32 < hanno> with the latest kernels I read that it should "just work" without any nvidia daemon or alike 12:33 < hanno> it also "seems" to work, just I can't hear anything 12:33 < hanno> yes, my alsa controls are all unmuted as far as I can see 12:33 < stuw> hanno, http://ac100.grandou.net/faq#how_to_set_up_sound + http://ac100.grandou.net/mixer_settings 12:35 < hanno> "remove mute state (press m) from “Stereo DAC”" <- no such control in my alsamixer 12:35 < stuw> hanno, give me uanme -r and amixer output 12:35 < stuw> (use pastebin.com) 12:36 < stuw> (or similar site) 12:36 < hanno> ok, one moment, just need to install wgetpaste 12:36 < hanno> uname -r: 3.0.27-1-ac100 12:37 < PaulFertser> hanno: dmesg | nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 12:37 < PaulFertser> hanno: are you sure you're looking at hardware mixer and not some other? What controls do you have in alsamixer? 12:38 < hanno> http://bpaste.net/show/43451/ 12:39 < stuw> hanno, skip Stereo DAC. Tune other mixer items 12:40 < hanno> I've tried enabling and putting up just everything 12:40 < stuw> hanno, please recheck settings using faq. 12:41 < hanno> oh, works 12:41 < hanno> faq seems to be not in line with what I have 12:41 < hanno> but setting speakerO to HPOut Mi did it 12:42 < hanno> fancy, I didn't hope for that to work :-) 12:43 < hanno> thanks a lot, seems you have a fine working community here 12:46 < hanno> video playback will probably require the proprietary video driver? 12:51 < hanno> what kernel image is currently suggested? I have 3.0.27 (which works a lot better than what I had previously), but read at nvidia about 3.1.10 for current drivers 13:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-jmovvbhpfsjlfkyq] 14:09 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@fb07-iapwap2.physik.uni-giessen.de] 14:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stroughtonsmith [~steven@86-44-102-212-dynamic.b-ras2.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] 15:18 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->xranby1 [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [] 15:52 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 16:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->morgan [5847ba9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.71.186.159] 16:04 < morgan> hi 16:20 < morgan> which interface is the best one maybe lxde? 16:21 < morgan> by using this command? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu 16:22 < ogra_> we just switched the 12.10 images to lubuntu by default 16:22 < ogra_> it pretty nicely only eats 80M for the idling desktop 16:23 < ogra_> (unity-2d was 120 ... xubuntu should be around these 120M as well, probably a bit more) 16:23 < ogra_> so if you want to use the least ram i woudl go with lubuntu 16:23 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ubuntu gnome-remix! 16:23 Dr_Azrael_Tod runs for cover 16:23 < ogra_> or something completely self rolled (openbox and some panel or so) 16:24 < ogra_> wont work 16:24 < ogra_> it will need GL support out of the box 16:24 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well... if someone would ask me... 16:24 < ogra_> same issue as with normal ubuntu desktop from 12.10 16:24 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> i would opt for i3 16:24 < ogra_> heh 16:24 < ogra_> does that still exist ? 16:24 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> it does 16:24 < ogra_> i though everyone moved to xmonad 16:24 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and works like a charm on my ac100 16:24 < ogra_> or xnomad or however its called 16:25 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> xmonad 16:25 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> what happens in the monad, stays in the monad 16:25 < ogra_> i currently run metacity (with SW composite enabled) and awn on one of my setups 16:25 < ogra_> oh and pcmanfm for the desktop 16:25 < ogra_> its below 50M 16:26 < ogra_> and works pretty well ... even with the SW compositing ... so i can enjoy the bling of awn :) 16:26 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> usually i just run i3 and a cupple roxterms 16:26 ogra_ usually runs sylpheed, firefox, xchat and a few terminals 16:27 < ogra_> yay, my new panel was sent ! 16:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> ugh.. how does that graphic irc-client-thing work out for you? 16:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> could never bring myself to use one of these 16:27 < ogra_> i use xchat since about 10 years 16:27 < ogra_> or close to ten at least 16:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> (and didn't want to, since gnu screen is so nice) 16:28 < ogra_> so its working pretty well :) 16:28 ogra_ could never really get used to irssi 16:28 < ogra_> if i would, i would also use mutt 16:28 < ogra_> but the graphic overhead is tiny for sylpheed and xchat (not xchat-gnome indeed) 16:29 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. its just nice to open the ac100, log in, getting ssh to my server automaticly and having open irssi/mcabber/logs and co. instantly 16:29 < morgan> ok, I think lxde is the best for me at this time 16:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> currently i'm more and more using even elinks and the likes, because that browser on my android-phone is so slow 16:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> so i can let that open in screen as well 16:30 < ogra_> Dr_Azrael_Tod, well, my xchate automatically connects to my irc proxy server too :) 16:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> right.. then it might be usable 16:44 ssh, irssi and irssi-connectbot for the android 16:44 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> exactly 16:44 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> and screen of course 16:44 of course 16:51 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@fb07-iapwap2.physik.uni-giessen.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 17:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Riccardo [c2019dbe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.1.157.190] 17:30 < morgan> hm I used the command from the link obove to remove unity and install lxde 17:30 < morgan> but lxde does not start 17:33 < ogra_> did you install lubuntu-desktop or just lxde ? 17:33 < ogra_> if only lxde you need to do all the setup amnually indeed 17:33 < ogra_> *manually 17:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> am i the only one to use tasksel nowadays? 17:34 < morgan> complete lubuntu desktop 17:34 < ogra_> heh, nah, every ubuntu user does 17:34 < ogra_> (unnoticed ;) ) 17:35 < ogra_> morgan, well, that should give you a new login screen look and default to an lxde desktop 17:35 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. if i look at lines like: 17:35 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> "sudo apt-get remove acpi-support acpid activity-log-manager-common activity-log-manager-control-center adium-theme-ubuntu aisleriot apg app-install-data-partner appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt apt-xapian-index apturl apturl-common at-spi2-core avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon bamfdaemon baobab binutils bluez-alsa bluez-cups bluez-gstreamer branding-ubuntu brasero brasero-cdrkit brasero-common brltty checkbox checkbox-qt cmap-adobe-japan2 colo 17:35 < ogra_> oh my GOD ! 17:35 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> narf 17:35 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> thats horrible 17:36 < ogra_> yeah, from the "lets break the world" category 17:37 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but the heading above the line is even better: "Remove Ubuntu" 17:37 < ogra_> lol 17:37 < ogra_> thats nearly as good as "sudo rm -rf /" 17:37 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu 17:39 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> "WARNING: Use tasksel only to install tasks, never to remove any! According to https://launchpad.net/bugs/574287 it will remove each package in the list of that task (and possibly render your system unusable). 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Can't activate on the kernel build from 3rd of September. Only can mute speaker output 19:11 < PaulFertser> alex-ac100: have you taken a look at the routing diagram already? 19:13 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-mpclqgbkwqxduhdm] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 19:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:50 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 19:58 < alex-ac100> PaulFertser: this future works before on 12.04 kernel (3.0.xxx) 19:59 < alex-ac100> Tried all possible switches in alsamizer 20:00 < PaulFertser> alex-ac100: hm, strange 20:00 < PaulFertser> alex-ac100: can you use alsamixer to properly configure the mixer and then dump dapm settings from /sys ? 20:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 20:06 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178133216.adsl.alicedsl.de] 20:11 < alex-ac100> PaulFertser: http://ac100.grandou.net/mixer_settings which switches I have to turn on? 20:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stroughtonsmith [~steven@86-44-85-243-dynamic.b-ras2.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] 20:34 <*> Quits ->alex-ac100 [~alex@87.228.77.93] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->alex-ac100 [~alex@87.228.77.93] 20:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 20:45 <*> Quits ->alex-ac100 [~alex@87.228.77.93] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:55 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-gmgdpzhafenlwhnz] [Quit: Verlassend] 21:08 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:11 <*> Quits ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->alex-ac100 [~alex@87.228.77.93] 21:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 21:14 < alex-ac100> PaulFertser: You can find amixer out here http://pastebin.com/bFcyznXZ 21:19 < PaulFertser> alex-ac100: hm, looks good to me. What about DAPM? 21:24 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24 < alex-ac100> PaulFertser: http://pastebin.com/Vjx51Ppm 21:25 < PaulFertser> alex-ac100: yes, it would be nice to see the contents of all those files (along with the filenames). 21:25 < PaulFertser> alex-ac100: and then probably stuw_ will now why you do not hear anything, hopefully. 21:26 < PaulFertser> I'm still on 3.0.x because i never felt like going to 3.1 just because nvidia decided so. 21:26 < alex-ac100> OK, This will take some time. Speakers work fine. The problem is with headphones output only 21:30 < srwarren> In mainline, the headphone jack detection test was inverted - perhaps that same problem exists in the downstream kernels too? 21:33 < stuw_> srwarren, jack detection works fine on android. 21:33 < stuw_> alex-ac100, I can't tell anything without content of dapm items 21:35 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: hi. how goes it? 21:35 < alex-ac100> PaulFertser: http://pastebin.com/ZxdzqK7Y 21:35 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: everything's fine :) going to Sevastopol tomorrow :) And how are you? 21:35 < PaulFertser> stuw_: hi btw :) 21:36 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: me? well, my final bachelor's year has begun. So I need to think of a bachelor's thesis and about choosing a university for the master's degree 21:36 < PaulFertser> alex-ac100: is that while you're trying to play something through it? 21:36 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: btw, I'm done with android@work and will start working on omap4 porting tomorrow 21:37 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37 < PaulFertser> alex-ac100: if not, please start some long-term playback and retry. 21:37 < PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: great! Congratulations :) hope now you'll enjoy the work even more :) 21:37 < Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: I'm also learning verilog now and find it similiar to erlang. btw, I've written two more rants and switched my blog to a non-js theme so you can read in w3m 21:42 < alex-ac100> PaulFertser: no active playback this time. 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11:20 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> they both aren'T 11:20 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiegogo 11:26 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 11:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] 11:45 <*> Quits ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] [Quit: Time to join real life] 11:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-dobjyyciwtzjpgmk] 11:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] 12:09 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 13:00 <*> Quits ->lenios_ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-105-210.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios_ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-105-210.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] 13:02 <*> Quits ->afaerber_ [~andreasf_@p5494383D.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Verlassend] 13:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-irbweijdhwxbltxl] 13:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052229001.adsl.alicedsl.de] 13:34 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@116.213.117.66] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 13:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-178-132.as13285.net] 13:51 < paultrafalgar> http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/65948-analyst-sees-challenges-for-nvidia-s-tegra-soc 13:53 < woglinde> hi paul 13:54 < paultrafalgar> hi woglinde 13:54 < paultrafalgar> http://news.radio-electronics.co/general/cortex-a15s-out-in-handsets-this-year-says-arm/ 14:13 < paultrafalgar> this is too far off-piste but 49 synced quadricopters is enough to frighten all the drunks in Austria: http://news.radio-electronics.co/general/cortex-a15s-out-in-handsets-this-year-says-arm/ 14:14 < paultrafalgar> whops : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShGl5rQK3ew 14:24 < stuw> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShGl5rQK3ew <- cool :) 14:32 <*> Quits ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:34 <*> Quits ->lenios_ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-105-210.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Changing host] 14:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios_ [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] 14:42 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-178-132.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 15:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->hectorvector [~hectorvec@UQ1-221-171-15-83.tky.mesh.ad.jp] 15:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ibisal [5bd7efb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.215.239.178] 15:23 < ibisal> i've just installed ICS. works perfect - fast & stable. but, how to bring it back from sleep? 15:24 < stuw> :))) 15:25 < stuw> Usually it should resume by key press, but sometimes it hangs. 15:25 < ibisal> then what? 15:25 < stuw> This is one of the reasons ICS build called beta :) 15:25 < ibisal> wchich key? 15:26 < stuw> ibisal, press any keyboard button (space, esc, etc...) and power button 15:27 < ibisal> where's the "any" key? :)))) 15:27 < ibisal> not working 15:31 < stuw> It will not resume :( press power more than 8 seconds to power ac100 off. 15:31 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> try holing the ac100 above your head, turn yourself around 275.4°, chanting 'wake up, wake up, wake up!' 15:31 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> *holding 15:31 < stuw> ))) 15:32 < ibisal> can i disable standby? 15:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. disabling it if connected to powersupply is easy 15:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> further... i dont know 15:34 < stuw> ibisal, I don't know. Let's ask zombah... :) 15:48 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 15:51 < marvin24> ibisal: it also fails to resume in ubuntu 15:51 < marvin24> and I still don't have an idea why ... 15:52 < zombah> ibisal: which stanby? single click on power button or screen timeout? 15:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-178-132.as13285.net] 15:53 < paultrafalgar> devs might like one of these: http://www.baserock.com/2012/08/28/codethink-launches-baserock-embedded-linux/ 15:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@2pbbogin.zmbh.uni-heidelberg.de] 15:58 < ibisal> when my ac100 goes to sleep i cant bring it back 16:00 < xranby> ibisal: are you using the nvidia drivers? 16:01 < xranby> oh you are using ICS. sorry i have no experience on the subject 16:12 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 16:26 <*> Quits ->RanX [~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-61-102.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Quit: sometimes shit happens] 16:30 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-178-132.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 16:32 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-dobjyyciwtzjpgmk] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:36 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052229001.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 16:42 <*> Quits ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@2pbbogin.zmbh.uni-heidelberg.de] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-ugtsnhwcvopfkeom] 16:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 17:00 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [] 17:10 <*> Quits ->ibisal [5bd7efb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.215.239.178] [Quit: Page closed] 17:12 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 17:21 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Client Quit] 17:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopoff [~Miranda@broadband-46-188-7-2.2kom.ru] 17:25 <*> Quits ->ggrandou_ [~quassel@2001:41d0:51:1::100] [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ggrandou [~quassel@2001:41d0:51:1::100] 17:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->vanger [~vanger@80.91.178.202] 17:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->dam [4ec08825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.192.136.37] 17:44 < dam> Hi, the repos for ubuntu 12.04 for ac100 seem to have been removed from default and French server. 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And does anyone know where I can find valid repositories ? 17:51 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> o0 18:30 <*> Quits ->dam [4ec08825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.192.136.37] [Quit: Page closed] 18:37 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-ugtsnhwcvopfkeom] [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->|jbrown| [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] 18:44 <*> Quits ->jbrown [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55 <*> Quits ->|jbrown| [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->|jbrown| [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] 19:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 19:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDACA6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 19:23 < odo2063> Hi 19:30 < odo2063> is it possible to change from armel to armhf by just changing the apt-sources? 19:31 < ogra_> no 19:32 < odo2063> so what else would need to be done? 19:32 < ogra_> backup and reinstall is your best option 19:32 < odo2063> ok 19:33 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> in a perfect world /home would be on a different partition, so backup wouldn't be that big of an effort 19:34 < ogra_> in a perfect works you would have a SATA SSD with enough space and a sane bootloader that lets you partition the device 19:34 < ogra_> cant have everything ;) 19:34 < odo2063> atm i just tar it from sd to emmc, its about the system stuff(e. g. backlightcontroll) 19:35 ogra_ doesnt know about backlightcontrol ... the default one always worked for me 19:35 < odo2063> in 12.04? 19:35 < ogra_> in all proper releases we did 19:36 < ogra_> i think in natty when we used the PPA kernel it didnt 19:36 < odo2063> doesn't for me in 11.10 so i did myself 19:36 <*> Quits ->vanger [~vanger@80.91.178.202] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:36 < ogra_> but in everything after, gnome-power-manager always just did the right thing and you could adjust it with the slider in the power-manager settings 19:37 ogra_ makes a note to check if that also still works now that we roll only lubuntu-desktop images 19:37 < odo2063> i do it with "win"+F6/F7 19:38 < ogra_> well, win is pretty occupied in unity :) 19:38 < odo2063> nope, lubuntu 19:38 < odo2063> LXDE 19:38 < odo2063> want some config files? 19:39 < ogra_> i would actually like to see someone come up with a kernel patch to make "search" be the Fn modifier key :) 19:39 < odo2063> :-) 19:39 < ogra_> that way we could solve it properly instead of through evil script hacks 19:40 < odo2063> its not that evil i think, seen worse stuff 19:40 < ogra_> well, its a kernel side bug that needs to be fixed kernel sidedd 19:40 < ogra_> (by providing a proper keymap... = 19:41 < ogra_> ) 19:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052229001.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:41 < odo2063> does some recognized that "F9" only works as touchpadswitch? 19:41 < ogra_> not true ... 19:41 < ogra_> sadly it also works as F9 19:42 < odo2063> not for me...:-( 19:42 < ogra_> but yeah, the touchpad power toggle is hard-wired to it 19:42 < ogra_> it surely does for me in unity 19:42 < odo2063> with xev not for me 19:42 < ogra_> but its pretty useless since it disables the touchpad at the same time 19:42 < ogra_> what kernel are you using ? 19:43 < ogra_> the archive kernel should have it working as F9 19:43 < odo2063> atm 2.6.38 from 11.10, but updating this moment 19:45 < odo2063> does somebody tried to compile the 0.0.17 of qucs? 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00:50 < zombah> dunno about these new quad core, but old ones was very slow 01:01 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-117-4.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:03 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->Vraister [~friedrich@188-220-35-90.zone11.bethere.co.uk] [] 01:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vraister [~friedrich@188-220-35-90.zone11.bethere.co.uk] 01:03 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->Vraister [~friedrich@188-220-35-90.zone11.bethere.co.uk] [] 01:11 <*> Quits ->tvaculin [~tom@vaculin.ludik.cz] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:14 <*> Quits ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDACA6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 01:27 <*> Quits ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] 03:04 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052229001.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:24 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [] 05:20 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Could you please check it and update in 12.10 ? 09:02 < stuw> ogra_, also I confirm, that headphones don't work in 12.10. Speakers work always. Looks like sound don't switch to headphones routing. 09:04 < stuw> I will try to analyze headphones problem a little bit later 09:04 < DJ_HiP> Hows the video acceleration looking in 12.10 09:05 < stuw> DJ_HiP, I didn't check video acceleration. 09:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] 10:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225146104.adsl.alicedsl.de] 10:08 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@nat.rnd.stcnet.ru] 10:13 <*> Quits ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E43365.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 10:43 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225146104.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052064166.adsl.alicedsl.de] 10:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->q4a [c1a92cb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.169.44.180] 10:52 < q4a> http://developer.nvidia.com/mobile/linux-tegra - l4t r16.1.0 driver. Armhf out of box =))) 10:53 < scoopr> \:D/ 10:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 11:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] 11:09 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> Support for U-Boot is preliminary in this release. U-Boot boot loader booting is currently 11:09 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> working on Cardhu and Ventana. 11:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-hindpoxpxldioada] 11:22 < woglinde> hm 11:22 < woglinde> intressting 11:22 < woglinde> maybee time to switch to hf now 11:22 < marvin24> cool 11:23 < longpig> x11 gives me terrible headaches on hf.. 11:23 < woglinde> but I did not turn my ac100 for 3 months now 11:23 < woglinde> longpig sure there was no xorg-tegra driver 11:23 < longpig> there was, but it was beta until now 11:23 < woglinde> hm oh okay 11:24 < longpig> ventana_nv-tegra_base_R15-Beta.1.0_armhf.tbz2 11:24 < woglinde> hm hm 11:24 < longpig> it would run, but x11 would freeze after a few minutes 11:24 < woglinde> maybee we aren that compatible with ventana 11:24 < woglinde> but harmony support is dropped as annouceds 11:25 < marvin24> mmh, the link timeouts 11:26 < marvin24> no, all links timeout here ;-) 11:26 < woglinde> hm 11:26 < woglinde> release notes are working here 11:26 < longpig> i downloaded and installed it already.. but it doesnt work with 3.0.x kernel 11:26 < woglinde> and nice they mentioned which bugs are fixed 11:26 < woglinde> even its only 3 11:26 < ogra_> *sniff* 11:26 < ogra_> only ABI 12 11:27 < woglinde> ogra sure 11:27 < woglinde> what did you expected 11:27 < ogra_> 13 11:27 < woglinde> lol 11:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> dropping support for 2 year old devices is such thing people should go to jail for 11:27 < ogra_> so that i can upload it to ubuntu 11:27 < woglinde> Dr_Azrael_Tod? 11:27 < woglinde> thats normal life 11:27 <*> Quits ->ggrandou [~quassel@2001:41d0:51:1::100] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:28 < ogra_> 12 doesnt gain me anything ... it wont run with the 12.04 kernel and it wont run with the 12.10 xorg 11:28 < woglinde> yo dont make money with it anympre 11:28 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well.. 11:28 < longpig> well, thats business.. 11:28 < longpig> but theres plenty of much older hardware which is still fully usable 11:28 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> its normal, but that doesn't make it ok 11:28 < woglinde> so dont invest anymore 11:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ggrandou [~quassel@2001:41d0:51:1::100] 11:28 < woglinde> hi ggrandou 11:29 < woglinde> hm someone should start kickstarter for driver development 11:29 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> hahaha 11:29 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> as if someone would give money for that 11:30 < woglinde> if you dont try you never will find out 11:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> well... then go and try 11:30 < ogra_> depends how much you ask for :) 11:30 < woglinde> hm 11:30 < woglinde> Support for the softfp release is deprecated and is planned to be removed completely in a 11:30 < woglinde> later release. 11:30 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but remember: i told you before that you will fail 11:30 < woglinde> thats intressting 11:30 < ogra_> sane move 11:31 < woglinde> ogra pff 11:31 < ogra_> who would run softfloat on something like the tegra 11:31 < ogra_> its a massive waste 11:31 < woglinde> o.O 11:31 < woglinde> waste of what? 11:32 < ogra_> (unless you use it as server or some such) 11:32 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> cpu-cycles 11:32 < marvin24> registers ... 11:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios__ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-107-91.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] 11:32 < ogra_> if you want softfloat take somethin in the ARMv5 region ... why would you not use the full power of your CPU ? 11:33 < ogra_> (i mean its a waste to buy something like the tegra and not use the full potential) 11:34 < xranby> ogra_: this is a trend, GPU manufacturers create drivers for the last stable ubuntu release while all the ubuntu developers like you focus on the next release with bumped xorg ABI 11:35 < xranby> ogra_: users of 12.04 might be happy if these drivers got pushed out to precise 11:36 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> but 12.04 has no kernel in the needed version? 11:36 <*> Quits ->lenios_ [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:36 < ogra_> xranby, well, i'm just talking to jani, lets see if he is willing to do a kernel backport 11:36 < ogra_> Dr_Azrael_Tod, 12.04 has a 3.0 kernel 11:36 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> oh 11:36 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> it has? 11:36 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> k 11:36 < ogra_> but maintaining a backport is quite some work 11:36 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> nevermind 11:39 < marvin24> I have a rebased kernel ontop of r16 11:39 < marvin24> which I'll push after I'm finished with cleanups 11:39 < ogra_> marvin24, well, i dont want to maintain a backport ... lets see what jani says 11:39 < ogra_> if he's willing to, i'll upload the new driver to precise 11:40 < ogra_> (proposed) 11:40 < marvin24> ogra_: well, 3.1 still has some issues here (suspend/resume) 11:40 < marvin24> so backport would be a backstep 11:40 < ogra_> oh, right 11:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p54943BAF.dip.t-dialin.net] 11:40 < ogra_> and the console thing 11:40 < ogra_> which woudl require changing the images actually 11:40 < marvin24> I haven't check if it is still present on r16 11:41 < ogra_> (since the installer sets the initial cmdline) 11:41 < xranby> ogra_: thank you for pulling strings 11:41 < ogra_> heh, lets see 11:41 < marvin24> I asked on #tegra for an abi 13 driver 11:41 < ogra_> what marvin24 said above is pretty much a blocker ... 11:42 < ogra_> (at least the console= part) 11:42 < marvin24> didn't srwarren asked how to install quantal lately ...? 11:42 < ogra_> not me 11:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->svp [~svp@62.112.106.78] 11:45 < marvin24> ah, that was 12.04 11:48 <*> Quits ->ggrandou [~quassel@2001:41d0:51:1::100] [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 11:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ggrandou [~quassel@2001:41d0:51:1::100] 12:05 < ogra_> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-AC100-10U-Netbook-10-Black-Netbook-Cheap-Laptop-PC-Wifi-Notebook-DEMO-/150875543886?pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item2320e2194e#ht_2684wt_1211 12:05 < ogra_> ..."Hard Drive: 8 GB Solid State Drive - Serial ATA-150"... 12:05 < ogra_> LOL 12:05 < ogra_> wishful thinking 12:34 < longpig> marvin, is there any kernel working reliably with the r16 hardfp driver yet? 12:35 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052064166.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:38 <*> Quits ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p54943BAF.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Verlassend] 12:44 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [~alexander@nat.rnd.stcnet.ru] [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:48 <*> Quits ->clopoff [~Miranda@broadband-46-188-7-2.2kom.ru] [Quit: clopoff] 12:53 < dpol> longpig: http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/commits/chromeos-ac100-3.0 work fine (gles2, video decoding - is't tested) with abi12 12:57 <*> Quits ->ZyTer [~oliv@wwwcache.univ-lr.fr] [Quit: bye bon WE] 12:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-vgzxxaobewapjufu] 12:58 < longpig> hmm, 3.0 works ok with abi12 and r16? 12:58 < longpig> do you have an xorg.conf i can try? its not working for me 13:00 < marvin24> 3.0 kernel + r16 driver shouldn't work 13:01 < marvin24> 3.1/r15 kernel may work, but I'm still working on a 3.1 kernel/r16 release 13:02 < longpig> i cant get 3.1 to behave at all, it still gets a divide by zero if i try to use more than a single vty 13:03 < marvin24> longpig: arch? 13:03 < marvin24> did you added console=tty1 ? 13:03 < longpig> gentoo, yes i did add console=tty1 13:04 < stuw> marvin24, Btw, I posted small research update on this problem some times ago. Did you see it ? 13:04 < dpol> marvin24: 3.0 kernel + r16 driver - work for me with 2d (ABI12, and I don't link any 3d libs to nvidia's library) 13:04 < marvin24> stuw: yes, but still no solution - right? 13:04 < marvin24> the framebuffer code is just to ugly for me 13:05 < marvin24> dpol: ok, this may work 13:05 < stuw> marvin24, yep, no solution. I had no chance to go deeper :) 13:06 < marvin24> stuw: hold on until I checked on r16 13:08 < stuw> marvin24, ok :) 13:10 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-vgzxxaobewapjufu] [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-dbjmwhbnwilusqox] 13:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@222.130.135.35] 13:22 <*> Quits ->panda|x201 [~hzhang@222.130.135.35] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-182-52.as13285.net] 13:23 < paultrafalgar> https://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/594494-beyond-the-beagle-seven-open-source-board-projects-that-count/ 13:25 < longpig> r15 kinda worked on 3.0 for me, but it would freeze after a few mins 13:26 < longpig> r16 doesnt work because it cant guess the displaymodes to use, but might work if you forced it 13:27 < longpig> [ 424.317] (II) TEGRA(0): Not using mode "1024x600" (unknown reason) 13:27 < longpig> [ 424.317] (II) TEGRA(0): No remaining probed modes for output LVDS-1 13:40 < paultrafalgar> http://www.osnews.com/story/26298/Genode_12_08_runs_on_base_ARM_hardware_revives_NOVA_support 13:55 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-182-52.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 13:58 <*> Quits ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->RanX_XeroX [~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846] 14:42 <*> Quits ->e-ndy [~e-ndy@194.213.226.242] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->e-ndy [~e-ndy@fantomas.bestit.cz] 15:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~user@217.118.78.126] 15:14 < savalik> anybody know - we can use kvm on our kernel? =) 15:16 < longpig> does the hardware even have support for virtualization? 15:19 < ogra_> no 15:19 < ogra_> and no 15:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stroughtonsmith [~steven@86-42-145-7-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] 15:20 < longpig> thought not.. 15:35 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:41 <*> Quits ->daviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 15:44 <*> leviathan is now known as Guest56522 15:53 < marvin24> stuw: console still not fixed in r16: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190756/ 15:53 < ogra_> bah 15:53 < stuw> it's sad :( 15:54 < xranby> do nvidia know? 15:59 <*> Quits ->q4a [c1a92cb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.169.44.180] [Quit: Page closed] 16:05 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] [] 16:07 < marvin24> stuw: maybe I found out why ... 16:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->dpol [~dpol@91.189.112.7] 16:07 marvin24 tests again 16:08 < longpig> aha, i dont have serial console to get the stacktrace... thats very useful 16:09 < marvin24> well, it wasn't in this case 16:10 < marvin24> stuw, ogra_: disable CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING fixes the console problem here 16:10 < marvin24> sorry, my fault 16:10 < marvin24> I should have started from tegra_defconfig 16:10 < ogra_> oh, even for the 3.1 we currently use ? 16:10 < marvin24> possible 16:10 < marvin24> same oops on r16 16:10 < ogra_> awesome 16:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF8A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 16:42 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF8A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 16:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] 16:42 < marvin24> ogra_: no luck on r15 :-( 16:42 < ogra_> console you mean ? 16:43 < ogra_> well, as long as r16 works 16:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052064166.adsl.alicedsl.de] 16:44 <*> Quits ->savalik [~user@217.118.78.126] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->|puppeh| [~puppeh@91.84.49.207] 16:46 < marvin24> ogra_: yes 16:46 < marvin24> I tried five time on r16 now 16:46 < marvin24> no oops 16:47 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~user@217.118.78.126] 16:47 < ogra_> great, and no console= option ? 16:47 < marvin24> console=tty0, but well 16:47 < ogra_> hrm 16:47 < marvin24> should be same 16:47 < ogra_> well, thats my backport criteria 16:47 < ogra_> if console= is needed i cant push it to precise 16:49 < marvin24> will try again 16:50 < woglinde> gogo 16:54 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~user@217.118.78.126] [] 16:55 < juliank> marvin24: rel-15r7-ac100 boots fine here without a console= setting. 16:57 < marvin24> juliank: with or without plymouth? 16:57 < juliank> Without, just pure text. 16:57 < marvin24> yes, it only crashes with plymouth (e.g. ubuntu default) 16:58 < juliank> I tried booting with paz00_defconfig cmdline as well, but that did not work. 16:58 < ogra_> it also crashes without plymouth here ... 16:58 < marvin24> ogra_: r16 also crash if booted without any console 16:58 < ogra_> well, not crash but boot with a completely black screen 16:58 < marvin24> but not crash with console=ttyS0 16:58 < ogra_> do you get into X ? 17:00 < marvin24> with is doesn't oops before ... yes 17:00 < marvin24> but that's on 12.04 + tegra binary blob 17:01 < ogra_> k 17:01 < ogra_> well, lets see, i'll test it once jani pulled it 17:01 < marvin24> just pushed l4t-r16-ac100 17:01 < marvin24> if anyone wants to try himself 17:01 < woglinde> hm 17:02 < woglinde> gitorious? 17:02 < marvin24> yes 17:03 < woglinde> what did you need to change? 17:04 < marvin24> just rebase + some minor stuff 17:04 < woglinde> okay saw some changes now 17:07 <*> Quits ->svp [~svp@62.112.106.78] [Quit: Leaving.] 17:11 < stuw> stuw, ogra_: disable CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING fixes the console problem here <-- wonderful 17:12 < marvin24> stuw: read the rest ... 17:12 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-hindpoxpxldioada] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:12 < marvin24> in fact it only works in some cases now 17:13 < marvin24> but not in the default one :-( 17:13 < stuw> marvin24, already read. console= option dosn't scare me. 17:13 < stuw> AFAIU we can't get trace because oops doesn't happen with ttyS0 ? 17:15 < marvin24> no, I get output on ttyS0 even if I don't specify it on the kernel cmdline 17:16 juliank has a problem with OMX stuff not working, as the AVP requests nvrm_avp_8e000000.bin which does not exist anymore in L4T R16 17:16 < marvin24> stuw: e.g, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190888/ 17:16 < marvin24> juliank: did you also downloaded the codec package ? 17:17 < zombah> juliank: i had similar problem with r15 in android, fixed by disabling nvavp in kernel 17:17 < juliank> marvin24: Yes. It only has nvmm_*.axf files now. 17:17 < stuw> marvin24, looks like the same problem 17:21 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopoff [~Miranda@broadband-46-188-7-2.2kom.ru] 17:28 < juliank> zombah: Well, r15 had those files, so you shouldn't have a problem there. I'm also not sure about that "solution", it seems like it would disable HW acceleration completely 17:30 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 17:31 < juliank> Without AVP, you don't have any media support 17:34 < juliank> I need to set CONFIG_TEGRA_AVP_KERNEL_ON_MMU 17:34 < juliank> from what I can tell 17:36 < juliank> but that breaks the build somehow 17:36 < marvin24> juliank: yes, I already found out ;-) 17:36 < marvin24> stuw: it oopses here: http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/blobs/l4t-r16-ac100/drivers/tty/vt/vt.c#line2327 17:36 < marvin24> because vc_pos is NULL 17:37 < stuw> marvin24, could you check vc_rows and vc_cols. IIRC vc_pos is 0 because vc_buffsize is zero 17:38 < marvin24> stuw: 0 != NULL 17:38 < marvin24> but I guess you know already 17:41 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052064166.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:41 < juliank> marvin24: So, how does nvidia compile kernels then? That option is enabled by default, and their defconfigs don't disable it. 17:42 < stuw> marvin24, of cource. I told zero because vc_pos is unsigned long :) http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/blobs/l4t-r16-ac100/include/linux/console_struct.h#line53 17:42 < marvin24> juliank: I just compiled with tegra_defconfig 17:42 < marvin24> no problem 17:43 < stuw> marvin24, I'm not familiar with linux kernel very much and this fact confused me a little bit :) 17:44 < juliank> marvin24: But then TEGRA_AVP_KERNEL_ON_MMU is disabled somehow, right? 17:44 < marvin24> juliank: CONFIG_TEGRA_AVP_KERNEL_ON_MMU=y 17:46 < marvin24> (on l4t-r16-ac100) 17:46 < juliank> Right, we need to disable TEGRA_NVAVP 17:46 < juliank> That's only used on Tegra 3 builds. 17:47 < juliank> Built. Let's hope that it works now... 17:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDAC972.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 17:48 < odo2063> Hi 17:49 < odo2063> updated from 11.10 to 12.04 yesterday, but now vlc finds no outputs 17:50 < juliank> marvin24: OK, video playback works now. Just disable TEGRA_NVAVP in defconfig and enable CONFIG_TEGRA_AVP_KERNEL_ON_MMU=y 17:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@c-5eeaaaa5-74736162.cust.telenor.se] 17:58 < marvin24> juliank: so no file missing 17:58 < marvin24> ? 17:58 <*> Quits ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDAC972.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:58 < juliank> marvin24: Yes. The other files are only used without CONFIG_TEGRA_AVP_KERNEL_ON_MMU=y 18:04 < juliank> Accelerated Video playback in totem works now to some extent. It's a bit unstable, though. 18:06 < juliank> Well, starting playback and playing back works, but stopping and closing totem takes some time 18:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDAC972.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 18:13 <*> Quits ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDAC972.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDAC972.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 18:26 < juliank> Video playback is much more fun on x86, where I can just throw the CPU at it. 18:30 < marvin24> on x86, the cpu coolers are heavy, so there is quite some momentum 18:30 < marvin24> to have an impact 18:34 < juliank> It also consumes much more power (my laptop requires about 22W in total when playing a video; and 12W when idle) 18:34 < juliank> The AC100 probably consumes about 8W? 18:35 < marvin24> 3 when idle, I guess 6 with video 18:47 <*> Quits ->lenios__ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-107-91.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 19:10 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 19:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052064166.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:34 <*> Quits ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@c-5eeaaaa5-74736162.cust.telenor.se] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@c-5eeaaaa5-74736162.cust.telenor.se] 19:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 19:42 <*> Quits ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDAC972.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Quit: Verlassend] 19:56 <*> Quits ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@c-5eeaaaa5-74736162.cust.telenor.se] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 20:05 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-dbjmwhbnwilusqox] [Quit: Verlassend] 20:06 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@c-5eeaaaa5-74736162.cust.telenor.se] 20:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 20:25 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052064166.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:25 < marvin24> juliank: do you have a libardrv_dynamic.so ? 20:26 < marvin24> grrr, seems I deleted it 20:27 < marvin24> no, it's there 20:29 <*> Quits ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@c-5eeaaaa5-74736162.cust.telenor.se] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36 < juliank> marvin24: I have it. 20:40 < marvin24> yes, I just forgot to run ldconfig 20:40 < marvin24> but still no egl ;-) 20:41 < juliank> OK. 20:44 < juliank> marvin24: That's not good. But I assume that we won't get fully working EGL anymore at all, i.e. drivers being able to run clutter stuff 20:44 < juliank> So it's not that problematic that the half-working EGL support does not work at all 20:45 < marvin24> egl support was merged to compiz a few days ago 20:45 < marvin24> so I still have hopes for unity-3d 20:45 < juliank> Maybe. But that doesn't mean that it works. 20:46 < juliank> Clutter is built against EGL and does not work at all. 20:47 < juliank> At least in my experience. 20:47 < marvin24> seems nvidia added a few more stuff to their driver 20:48 < marvin24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191274/ 20:54 < marvin24> juliank: does es2_info work for you? 20:56 < juliank> marvin24: We don't have that packaged in Debian and I'm too lazy to do something more now. 20:57 < marvin24> no mesa-utils-extra ? 20:57 < juliank> marvin24: Right 20:57 < marvin24> mmh, piglit? 20:57 < juliank> I know that gnome-shell and cheese run with Nvidia's driver to some extent; but the screen gets just almost completely black, so it's not usable 20:58 < marvin24> good start: es2gears doesn't work 20:59 < marvin24> L1001: Can't link program, because it does not contain enough compiled shaders 20:59 < marvin24> great 20:59 < juliank> marvin24: I get those with clutter applications like gnome-shell and cheese as well, which explains why the screen stays black 21:01 < marvin24> yes, black scrren also in unity-3d 21:01 < marvin24> nothing gets drawn 21:02 < marvin24> that's a bit sad 21:11 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 21:27 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 21:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052236228.adsl.alicedsl.de] 21:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-29-5.21-151.libero.it] 22:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@m90-131-122-34.cust.tele2.se] 22:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 22:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E41C9C.dip.t-dialin.net] 22:52 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53 < stuw_> gcc es2gears.c -lX11 -lEGL -lGLESv2 -lm -o es2gears.arm http://ac100.wikispaces.com/file/view/es2gears.c/279065724/es2gears.c 23:02 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde_ [~henning@g225074063.adsl.alicedsl.de] 23:21 <*> Quits ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@m90-131-122-34.cust.tele2.se] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:22 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052236228.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:22 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [] 23:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@m90-141-39-224.cust.tele2.se] 23:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052232071.adsl.alicedsl.de] 23:57 <*> Quits ->woglinde_ [~henning@g225074063.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Day changed Sat Sep 08 2012 00:08 <*> Quits ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@m90-141-39-224.cust.tele2.se] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@m37-2-182-155.cust.tele2.se] 00:16 <*> Quits ->stroughtonsmith [~steven@86-42-145-7-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] [Quit: stroughtonsmith] 00:24 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 00:25 <*> Quits ->clopoff [~Miranda@broadband-46-188-7-2.2kom.ru] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 00:49 < srwarren> A note to people having issues with GL in R16: Please run ldd on your GL application and make sure it's finding the NVIDIA libraries correctly, and not falling back to Mesa instead. 00:49 < srwarren> It looks like there isn't yet a standard for the naming of EGL libraries on Unix. The .so filenames chosen by Mesa and NVIDIA are different, so after installing the NVIDIA drivers, you will need to manually create some symlinks so that applications find them. 00:50 < srwarren> The procedure is apparently documented in the Documentation package available from the L4T download page. 00:51 < srwarren> Also, please look at the apply_binaries.sh script in the driver package, and make sure you're doing the equivalent of everything there to install the drivers (ignoring any irrelevant stuff like serial console setup possibly) - e.g. there are apparently udev rules there that are necessary to set up. 00:52 < srwarren> Hope this helps! 01:00 < juliank> srwarren: I did check this of course before trying anything. The udev rules are needed for permissions, I manually overwrote them. Still get error L1001 about too few shaders. 01:02 < srwarren> So, ldd shows the NV drivers? Which exact distro and es2gears (package) version are you running? 01:04 < juliank> srwarren: Yes. I'm running some Debian unstable snapshot (and marvin24 runs a recent Ubuntu release), and the es2gears and friends from Ubuntu. As we both have the issue, it's likely not distro related. 01:06 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052232071.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:06 < juliank> Maybe it's some kernel configuration bug, as we're probably running with the same kernel configuration (basically paz00_defconfig) 01:06 < srwarren> Sure, but I need to report a specific version in order for our QA to attempt a repro. That said, they'll most likely push back and ask that you verify whether the issue happens with our sample root filesystem too... 01:09 < juliank> srwarren: I'd just like to know whether it works for anyone else on the AC100 with R16, this would help. I assume that things work correctly on the ventana board (and that this was tested by your people) which could mean a bug somewhere in the AC100-specific kernel parts. 01:10 < srwarren> Apparently our QA people test with an internal build of es2gears, not the Ubuntu-supplied packages, so the difference may be in the application itself 01:15 < xranby_ac100> i think there might be a bug in the mesa*-dev packages they adds symlinks to the mesa libEGL and libGL in the /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ instead of simply use the alternative system 01:16 < xranby_ac100> and with these symlinks in place can create situations when libEGL from the tegra driver load libGLESv2 from mesa 01:16 < srwarren> The best bet is to simply not have Mesa installed when using the NVIDIA drivers, if that's possible dependency-wise 01:17 < juliank> xranby_ac100: I have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to a directory containing the Nvidia libEGL and friends, so in my case all things are linked correctly, unless someone at nvidia decided to do something like dlopen("/usr/lib/libEGL[...]") 01:19 < xranby_ac100> dependency wise the idea is that when you install the nvidia package then the altarnative system switches /etc/alternatives/arm-linux-gnueabi_egl_conf to point to /usr/lib/nvidia-tegra/ld.so.conf instead of /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/mesa-egl/ld.so.conf 01:19 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 01:20 < xranby_ac100> thus there should be no need to place any direct links in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi[hf]/ 01:20 < srwarren> Well, if you're using packaged versions of our drivers, sure. But I assume r16 isn't packaged yet. 01:20 < xranby_ac100> and therefore the mesa package has a bug 01:20 < xranby_ac100> since some of its sub packages still palces links there 01:22 < xranby_ac100> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/943162 01:22 < juliank> xranby_ac100: The development packages probably need to place them there for the linker to find them. I don't know anything about this, though, as I haven't looked at how Ubuntu packages things, as I'm not using Ubuntu and it's not relevant because I manually manipulate the linker path to use the Nvidia libraries. 01:24 < xranby_ac100> juliank: ok hmm that may explainwhy they are still there 01:24 < juliank> It worked in the past (although EGL was really extremely limited) 01:25 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-29-5.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:25 < juliank> so if it's not working now, we either have a configuration problem or kernel bug or something in the R16 driver really assumes a ventana board and does not work elsewhere. 01:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] 01:25 < srwarren> Were you using the Ventana or Harmony builds of R15? 01:26 < srwarren> If Harmony, perhaps validate that Ventana R15 worked as well as Harmony? 01:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 01:27 < xranby_ac100> i may run that test if the R15 release is still available online 01:29 < juliank> We did have completely different kernel configuration for R15 and R16 changing from mem=448 to mem=512 (i.e. not reserving video memory statically), that might be related 01:30 < juliank> My command-line is just "mem=512M@0M root=LABEL=Tegrabuntu verbose" 01:30 < juliank> and marvin24 probably boots with mem=512M@0 root=/dev/mmcblk1p1 console=ttyS0,115200n8 quite silent earlyprintk rootwait 01:31 < juliank> But video acceleration works, and that does carveout as well, as far as I understand it. 01:34 xranby_ac100 check do we use     Option      "ARGBHWCursor" "true" in xorg? i notice one arch linux user claiming hits tegra2 system ran much more stable using it 01:34 juliank at least uses NVIDIA's default xorg.conf 01:35 < srwarren> Is there a need to change the kernel? Perhaps try just changing the kernel or just the drivers and see which causes the es2gears issue; try to isolate things 01:36 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:37 < juliank> One difference compared to ventana is also that we only reserve 40M for video or whatever ,whereas ventana has 256M. 01:38 < juliank> srwarren: I at least don't know how large the differences between L4T R15 and R16 kernels are, so I can't say whether it's possible to switch them. 01:40 < juliank> I had enough for now anyway, I'm awake for over 14 hours now which is enough for me. 01:41 < juliank> If someone can find the cause of this, I'll read it in about 12-16 hours. 01:42 < juliank> via the online logs 01:42 < juliank> bye! 01:42 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] [Quit: Verlassend] 01:43 < srwarren> Are the AC100 kernels based directly on the L4T kernels then, and get revised when there's a new L4T release? I thought they were based on the ChromeOS kernels... 01:44 < zombah> srwarren: now only l4t based and mainline branches active, chrome os seems legacy 01:45 < srwarren> Oh, OK. Testing mixing/matching kernels and drivers makes no sense then. 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mainly which branch to use? 19:15 < marvin24> p2-mate: mainline works 19:15 < marvin24> make paz00_config 19:16 < marvin24> the problem is how to load a kernel ... 19:16 < marvin24> only fat formated mmc works so far 19:16 < marvin24> I didn't got usb to work yet 19:18 < p2-mate> ok 19:19 < p2-mate> why doesn't ext3 formatted mmc work? 19:19 < p2-mate> looks to me the fs shouldn't matter... 19:19 < marvin24> uboot does not support ext3/4 19:19 < marvin24> at least not on mainline 19:20 < marvin24> you could format a /boot partition with ext2 though 19:20 < marvin24> but we cannot load something from the internal mmc, because of the weird nvidia partition table ;-) 19:21 < p2-mate> ah... can we get rid of the that? probably not... need to check 19:22 < p2-mate> I guess the bootrom needs it... 19:23 < marvin24> well, when uboot replaces fastboot, we could kill it 19:24 < marvin24> one could also hack uboot to access the emmc with some offset (pointing to the mbr) 19:24 < p2-mate> not sure, the BCT is read by the rom code 19:24 < marvin24> and fastboot will repartition your emmc on every boot 19:24 < p2-mate> I would assume the rom code expects a certain layout of the emmc 19:25 < marvin24> yes, we have to keep the BCT 19:25 < marvin24> but we can replace fastboot with uboot in the mid term 19:25 < p2-mate> yeah. the should be possible 19:25 < marvin24> and use an offset 19:25 < p2-mate> it works on seaboard :) 19:25 < marvin24> srwarren made an howto for ac100 19:26 < marvin24> check the wiki 19:26 < p2-mate> ok 19:26 < p2-mate> will do taht 19:28 < marvin24> p2-mate: http://ac100.grandou.net/swarren_brain_dump 19:29 < p2-mate> thanks 19:29 < marvin24> yrw 19:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->elementz [~elementz@g225104070.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:51 <*> Quits ->elementz [~elementz@g225104070.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Changing host] 19:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->elementz [~elementz@unaffiliated/elementz] 19:51 < elementz> hi all. 19:52 < elementz> i am in the process of flashing my ac100 with ubuntu. i am a bit unsure: is it possible to put the rootfs on an sdcard instead of an usb key? 19:53 < p2-mate> yes, this should be possible. 19:56 < elementz> p2-mate: thx for the heads up. so i just put it onto my the sdcard and i'm good to go right? 19:56 < elementz> btw: is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100 the most current way to do it? or is there a more up to date process documented somewhere else? 19:57 < p2-mate> yeah. I added a 1s delay in the kernel commandline just to be sure 19:57 < marvin24> elementz: 12.04 has a bug which prevents installing from sdcard 19:57 < marvin24> 12.10 work though 19:57 < p2-mate> elementz: and I'm actually running debian from sdcard, but that shouldn't matter 19:58 < zombah> marvin24: hello, you alredy tried suspend with r16, i see many promising commits in it 19:58 < zombah> ? 19:58 < elementz> so whats the best distro to run on the ac100 anyways? ubuntu or something else? 19:59 < p2-mate> depends on what you're familiar with I guess 19:59 < elementz> arch and ubuntu 19:59 < p2-mate> and the AC100 has only 512MB of RAM, so a lightweight ui might be a good idea 19:59 < marvin24> zombah: it always worked here (with paz00_defconfig) 20:00 < marvin24> zombah: but it fails on r15 with ubuntus config 20:00 < marvin24> zombah: didn't tried r16 + ubuntu kernel config yet though 20:00 < marvin24> p2-mate: if you merge u-boot-usb, booting from usb also works (if you don't have a spare sdcard) 20:01 < marvin24> just tested 20:01 < p2-mate> ok. nice 20:01 < p2-mate> has anyone considered screen support for u-boot? 20:02 < marvin24> p2-mate: sure, but no one succeeded yet ;-) 20:02 < p2-mate> ah :) 20:02 < zombah> marvin24: i see, gonna cherry-pick all r16 stuff and your patch to 3.1-exp and test with android 20:02 < p2-mate> it works in chromeos u-boot... 20:03 < marvin24> p2-mate: yes, but that's all hackery 20:03 < marvin24> in fact, mainline has lcd support for seaboard I think 20:03 < p2-mate> haven't looked at the code 20:03 < marvin24> or at least I saw patches on the ml 20:03 < marvin24> but they are still in discussion phase 20:03 < p2-mate> and then keyboard would be useful too, but that's going to be even harder :) 20:03 < marvin24> p2-mate: no, keyboard won't work 20:04 < marvin24> except you connect a usb one 20:04 < p2-mate> well, unless someone writes i2c slave + nvec support 20:04 < marvin24> yep 20:04 < marvin24> zombah: I recommend to stay on the nvidia android branch 20:05 < marvin24> rel-15r7 20:06 < marvin24> don't try to juggle with too many kernels + hacks 20:07 < marvin24> at least that's my experience 20:08 < zombah> marvin24: hm you thinks so? but l4t-r16 have so many lp0 patches i thought they can fix our suspend on android 20:08 < elementz> two more quick questions: which would create a faster system: installing to external sdcard (class 4) or to the internal flash memory? and when installing 12.04 will i be able to do a distro upgrade once it is installed? 20:08 < marvin24> zombah: l4t-r15 was behind rel-15r7 20:08 < marvin24> I didn't checked, but I think r15 just catched up 20:09 < marvin24> *r16* I mean 20:09 < marvin24> elementz: internal is fastest 20:09 < marvin24> can't tell about the 2nd question 20:10 < elementz> ok, what about putting /tmp or the swapdisk on the external sdcard? 20:10 < zombah> marvin24: rel-15r7 branch work strange here, 3.1-exp much better and 3.1-exp as i understand is mix of android and l4t branches 20:10 < p2-mate> I would put swap on the emmc 20:10 < p2-mate> and use the external card for less often used data 20:10 < elementz> ok 20:10 < marvin24> zombah: you can swap to some file 20:10 < p2-mate> emmc is faster and likely more reliable than sdcard 20:10 < marvin24> zombah: if you need to swap, you are lost anyway 20:11 < marvin24> and we have zram/zswap 20:11 < marvin24> p2-mate: have you ever seen a emmc or sd card die (wear out?) 20:11 < p2-mate> marvin24: emmc not. sdcard, yes 20:12 < p2-mate> marvin24: I even have a sdcard which reliable corrupts data when formatted with ext3 20:12 < p2-mate> happens on both ac100 and raspberry pi 20:12 < p2-mate> so I really think it's the card 20:12 < p2-mate> not the controller 20:12 < marvin24> sandisk? 20:12 < p2-mate> no 20:12 < p2-mate> zap 20:12 < p2-mate> zap glider class 4 it says 20:13 < marvin24> some sd cards don't like anything else than vfat I heared 20:13 < p2-mate> sdcard wearleveling is often designed for vfat yes 20:13 < p2-mate> also sdcards are designed for cameras 20:13 < p2-mate> so large contiguous writes 20:13 < p2-mate> not for random access 20:14 < p2-mate> emmc otoh is designed for random access 20:52 < marvin24> zombah: on l4t-r16, otg/udc port will wakeup the system as soon as it is suspended if anything is plugged in 20:53 < marvin24> also kernel with ubuntu config fails to resume (same as on r15) 20:55 < zombah> marvin24: got it. and what about your latest changes to paz00 board are they vital? maybe i cherry-pick only them 20:56 < marvin24> I don't think they are imported 20:56 < marvin24> *important 20:57 < marvin24> just adjustments to r16 release 20:57 < marvin24> which don't affect other branches 20:57 < marvin24> zombah: have to tried to disable mouse/power/keyboard to test resume? 20:59 < zombah> marvin24: will try, i tried to disable nvec-ps2 and all nvec transfer timeouts vanished, will recheck suspend with it disabled 20:59 < marvin24> just doing the same now 20:59 < marvin24> but interesting find ... 21:28 < elementz> does anybody know how i can obtain the tegra drivers for 12.04? 21:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-173-0.21-151.libero.it] 22:02 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g229044105.adsl.alicedsl.de] 23:05 < marvin24> elementz: apt-get installl nvidia-tegra 23:08 < woglinde> marvin24 is the r16 tegra release now an improvement? 23:08 < marvin24> no 23:08 < marvin24> worse I would say 23:09 < woglinde> oh why? 23:09 < marvin24> gles has some more problems 23:09 < woglinde> okay 23:09 < marvin24> but video decode seems to work now 23:09 < woglinde> haha 23:10 < marvin24> I wonder if anyone with ventana could test it 23:18 < marvin24> maybe I buy one, with something called "internet": http://www.ebay.com/itm/MACINTOSH-Internet-Membership-Kit-1995-Ventana-/150828005679?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231e0cb92f#ht_1437wt_922 23:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E43FA1.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:24 <*> Quits ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E42AB3.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 23:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] --- Day changed Sun Sep 09 2012 00:06 <*> Quits ->Snark_ [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 00:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->odo2063 [~teste@p5DDAC507.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 00:13 < odo2063> hi 00:15 < odo2063> ogra_, since the updated 12.04 armel wont let me run libreoffice or play videos i decided to switch to armhf, where can i get the lubuntu image? 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what are you guys using? 18:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225165183.adsl.alicedsl.de] 18:26 < taruti> elementz: just run something besides unity/gnome3 as the ui 18:27 < elementz> yeah, my main problem is the missing tegra driver though. i am upgrading to 12.10 right now, since it seems that the driver is available in that repository 18:27 < elementz> lets see 18:32 < taruti> you don't really need the tegra driver if you don't do 3d 18:33 < elementz> hm. what about video acceleration? 18:35 < elementz> taruti: ? 18:36 < woglinde> for hw video accel you need the driver 18:37 < elementz> thats what i guessed 18:38 < elementz> i just saw on the mailing list that a new driver is available from nvidia 18:38 < woglinde> yes 18:38 < woglinde> marvin said its worser for 3d but okay now for video accel 18:39 < elementz> hm. do you have experience installing it manually? 18:41 < marvin24> elementz: use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra/15.1.0-0ubuntu1/+build/3665602/+files/nvidia-tegra_15.1.0-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb for now 18:42 < elementz> marvin24: hm. i already did. but it seems to not work. note: i tried it on ubuntu 12.04 18:43 < elementz> this is why i am currently updating to 12.10 - or is this a bad idea? 18:47 < marvin24> well, it should work on 12.04 18:48 < marvin24> 12.10 may still be a bit untested 18:58 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://liliputing.com/2012/09/45-cubieboard-allwinner-a10-developer-board-prototype-now-available.html 19:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst__ [~stenzel@pD9E43C78.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:05 <*> Quits ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E43FA1.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:10 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->morgan [5847fa24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.71.250.36] 19:20 < morgan> hi 19:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@m90-130-54-100.cust.tele2.se] 20:40 <*> Quits ->elementz [~elementz@unaffiliated/elementz] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->elementz [~elementz@g231195206.adsl.alicedsl.de] 20:42 <*> Quits ->elementz [~elementz@g231195206.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Changing host] 20:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->elementz [~elementz@unaffiliated/elementz] 21:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@88.181.14.68] 21:37 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225165183.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:37 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 21:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] 22:03 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy1 [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] 22:10 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10 <*> gomiboy1 is now known as gomiboy 22:34 <*> Quits ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@m90-130-54-100.cust.tele2.se] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:39 <*> Quits ->brutal [~Brutal@188.134.37.22] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39 <*> Quits ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@88.181.14.68] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] 23:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby_ac100 [~xranby@m90-130-54-100.cust.tele2.se] 23:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] 23:59 <*> Quits ->morgan [5847fa24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.71.250.36] [Quit: Page closed] --- Day changed Mon Sep 10 2012 00:01 <*> Quits ->sjoos [~joost@g2086.upc-g.chello.nl] [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225165183.adsl.alicedsl.de] 00:37 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178138055.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:13 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225165183.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:20 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 02:26 <*> Quits ->elementz [~elementz@unaffiliated/elementz] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->cobalt60 [~cobalt60@ip70-177-210-215.hr.hr.cox.net] 02:35 < cobalt60> Hi everyone, I messed up my Linux (Ubuntu) install. I would like to get my ac100 functional again, and am wondering what OS would be easiest to install. Also curious to know if Android 4.0 is considered a good idea for these. TIA 02:54 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] [Remote host closed the connection] 03:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.117] 03:46 < rpiloose> cobalt60: hi 03:47 < cobalt60> hello 03:48 < rpiloose> cobalt60: how bad you messed your ubuntu install? 03:49 < rpiloose> cobalt60: may you follow this wiki for reinstalling ubuntu? 03:49 < rpiloose> cobalt60: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100 ? 03:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->elementz [~jonas@unaffiliated/elementz] 03:51 < cobalt60> I cant remember exactly the folder, I disabled a folder (moved or renamed), and the keyboard and trackpad do not work at all. External KBs and mice do not work. I cant even ctrl-alt-f1 03:52 < rpiloose> cobalt60: rootfs on SD Card/USB Key or eMMC? 03:52 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 03:53 < elementz> i am still trying to get hd video playback to work on my ac100. i downgraded/reinstalled to oneiric; installed the beta tegra driver from the deb available on launchpad. glxgears seem to work. i also recompiled mplayer, but still video playback is too slow to be usable 03:53 < elementz> what to do? 03:53 < cobalt60> rpiloose: I did not install Ubuntu, I bought it that way. 03:54 < rpiloose> cobalt60: Ok, is Ubuntu installed on internel eMMC? 03:54 < cobalt60> rpiloose: yes 03:56 < cobalt60> rpiloose: is my easiest option Ubuntu? I have tried many times to re-install, but never succeeded 03:56 < elementz> are you guys able to properly play hd videos on your ac100? and if yes, what did you guys need to do to get it working? 03:56 < rpiloose> cobalt60: is your bootloader 2.1 (if yes, is SOSBOOT installed?) or bootloader 2.2 (only nvflash is able access to your partition: /dev/mmcblk0p7) 03:56 < elementz> any help would be really welcome := 03:57 < rpiloose> cobalt60: first, do a backup of your partition 6 and partition 14 with the NVidia tool nvflash! 03:58 < cobalt60> where can I get the newest version of nvflash? My OS is Debian 03:59 < rpiloose> elementz: hi, sadly, until now, I am not able to play HD due to poorly implemented hw accel driver... :-( 03:59 < rpiloose> cobalt60: in the wiki 04:00 < cobalt60> rpiloose: ac100.grandou.net? 04:01 < elementz> rpiloose: hm. but shouldn't hd video work? i have seen quite a few hints that people are actually using it for hd video 04:01 < rpiloose> cobalt60: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash?s[]=nvflash 04:01 < rpiloose> elementz: not me! 04:02 < rpiloose> cobalt60: see Debian/Ubuntu Package paragraph 04:02 < cobalt60> elementz: 720 or 1080? where are you trying to display the video? 04:02 < rpiloose> cobalt60: elementz normally 720p 04:03 < elementz> cobalt60: on the devices lcd. not via hdmi 04:04 < rpiloose> cobalt60: elementz: Tegra2 doesn't have hardware for 1080p (http://ac100.grandou.net/apps?s[]=720p) 04:04 < elementz> but i have quite a few videos i would love to watch on a long flight with my ac100, so i really need to get this working somehow ;.( 04:04 < cobalt60> elementz: are you using the stock screen or did you replace it with a higher resolution one? 04:04 < elementz> cobalt60: stock screen 04:05 < elementz> and 720p will suffice anyways 04:05 < cobalt60> elementz: what format are the movies? 04:05 < elementz> mp4 04:05 < cobalt60> elementz: the stock display cannot display 720p 04:05 < rpiloose> elementz: provide to NVidia 13,000,000 USD to write a proper 720p driver... :,-( 04:06 < cobalt60> the stock display is 1024x600. are you able to watch videos that fall within that resolution? 04:06 < elementz> hm i thought video acceleration should be working with the new beta drivers? 04:06 < rpiloose> hi all, where can I find more information about NVEC protocol and Requestor Tag? 04:06 < elementz> theres a phh video on youtube indicating that hd video playback should be working 04:07 < rpiloose> elementz: ask NVidia trhough their forum... 04:07 < cobalt60> elementz: do you know that some people swap out the LCD for one that actually is 1280x820? 04:07 < cobalt60> t*720 04:07 < elementz> yep, but thats nothing i plan to do 04:08 < elementz> i just need to be able to playback the video. i dont mind some scaling of the source video 04:08 < cobalt60> elementz: are you able to play videos that are resolutions smaller than 1024x600? 04:08 < elementz> cobalt60: i can play videos but they are really slow 04:09 < cobalt60> elementz: what im getting at is that the scaling may be whats preventing the videos from working properly 04:09 < rpiloose> elementz: again in the wiki... http://ac100.grandou.net/upgrading_lcd_panel?s[]=1280 04:09 < cobalt60> rpiloose: ok im going to try to install nvflash now. should i do this as root? 04:10 < cobalt60> nm its pretty clear on when sudo is required 04:10 < rpiloose> cobalt60: the asnwer here in this cmdline: sudo dpkg -i nvflash_20110628-2_all.deb 04:11 < cobalt60> rpiloose: i cannot run the 2nd line. get error 403 forbidden 04:13 < rpiloose> cobalt60: may be one of the link inside http://share.grandou.net/debian/nvflash/ works? 04:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->elementz_ [~jonas@f052138001.adsl.alicedsl.de] 04:30 <*> Quits ->elementz [~jonas@unaffiliated/elementz] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:33 < cobalt60> rpiloose: sry had to play some UrT. anyway, how do i get those files? 04:33 <*> Quits ->elementz_ [~jonas@f052138001.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:35 < rpiloose> cobalt60: UrT ??? which files? nvflash or backup of partitions 6+14? 04:37 < cobalt60> rpiloose: urt = urban terror a quake 3 mod. anyway still want to get nvflash installed 04:48 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.117] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.117] 04:50 < rpiloose> ok, goodnight to all! 04:51 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~armelf@37.175.148.117] [] 05:03 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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If it's too slow, it'll print out suggestions. 14:12 < elementz> Chipaca: pk 14:12 < elementz> Chipaca: i meant ok ;-) 14:12 < Chipaca> stuw: i can't remember the incantation right now, and don't have any video handy (and will probably be frowned at if i start playing video in the office) 14:13 < elementz> stuw: so its possible to install the most recent nvidia driver manually? 14:13 < stuw> elementz, you need newer kernel first. 3.1 is experimental. 14:14 < elementz> ok, i figure thats not in the repos? 14:15 < elementz> or is it? 14:16 < elementz> stuw: or is this the right place to get it? http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel 14:16 < stuw> elementz, yes, kernel is there. Just choose a proper branch. 14:17 < elementz> stuw: you mean on gitorius or the repos? sorry 14:17 < stuw> elementz, I mean you need l4t-r16-ac100 in this repo 14:17 < elementz> stuw: thx 14:18 < stuw> elementz, do you have experience in kernel compilation? 14:18 < elementz> stuw: i have done quite some time ago 14:18 < elementz> ... 14:18 < elementz> but what else could i do to get the box running properly 14:19 < stuw> elementz, there is no strong faq, read logs to check status of r16+new 3.1 kernel 14:20 < stuw> *faq = instruction 14:20 < elementz> stuw: ok. 14:20 < stuw> at least I didn't see it :) 14:20 < elementz> what about the r16 driver, i have peeked inside an earlier package but had no clue how to actually install it manually 14:21 < elementz> are there any howtos floating around? 14:22 < elementz> also, will i have a performance increase once i have the new kernel/driver installed? at least for video? 14:23 < stuw> elementz, check instructions inside tegra driver archive, you will get some performance improvements + a set of bugs and hangs 14:24 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:24 < elementz> stuw: thx. 14:24 < elementz> so thats not the ideal option also. so what is? what are most people using right now? 14:24 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->qpx [~qpx@141.45.160.111] ["WeeChat 0.3.8"] 15:03 < marvin24> elementz: honestly, there is no out-of-the-box solution yet 15:04 < elementz> marvin24: yeah, thats what i realized already. i was just wandering which combination of os, kernel, and driver would yield the best/most stable experience 15:05 < marvin24> either 3.0 kernel + beta1 armel drivers or 3.1/r16 kernel with r16 drivers 15:05 < marvin24> at least some people reported they got it working 15:06 < marvin24> but it is still kinda hack 15:06 < elementz> ok 15:11 <*> Quits ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 16:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-btjeuiumkunvsdos] 16:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark_ [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 17:31 <*> Quits ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->marvin24 [~quassel@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net] 18:00 < srwarren> marvin24, p2-mate, ext3 works fine in U-Boot; you can mount ext3 as ext2 without issues. 18:00 < srwarren> And yes, you can just get rid of the Tegra PT and use GPT (or probably MBR) instead just fine; it's what I do. 18:00 < srwarren> The boot ROM only looks at the BCT; nothing else 18:02 < srwarren> Oh, and USB worked just fine on the AC100 in U-Boot last time I checked... At least in u-boot-tegra/master. It wasn't that long ago. 18:14 < e-ndy> srwarren, and what about keyboard and console on tty1? 18:16 < srwarren> I use a serial port. As marvin24 said, somebody would need to write an I2C slave and NVEC driver for U-Boot for the keyboard to work. 18:16 < srwarren> Simon Glass did post some LCD patches, but I they might still need work to align the DT bindings with what the kernel will be using. 18:19 < e-ndy> srwarren, so both are task for someone who has serial port connected 18:20 e-ndy damaged partially his board while tried to solder wires 18:34 < e-ndy> srwarren, so booting from mmc works? 18:35 < srwarren> With mainline U-Boot, yes. 18:36 < e-ndy> srwarren, and that is in latest r16 l4t release? 18:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 18:37 < srwarren> No 18:37 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-108-132.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-174-200.adsl.inetia.pl] 18:49 <*> Quits ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:54 <*> Quits ->gcst__ [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-notjhtidrldoxddt] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw [~andreydan@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru] 19:10 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-174-200.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-117-126.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:17 <*> Quits ->vanger [~vanger@80.91.178.202] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:25 < marvin24> srwarren: most people use ext4 and that didn't worked last time I tried 19:26 < srwarren> Yes, ext4 is not compatible with ext2 19:27 < marvin24> extents I guess 19:27 < marvin24> usb also isn't merged to u-boot-tegra yet (at least is wasn't yesterday) 19:28 < srwarren> Sure, but it has worked for a long time; I don't believe we're dependent on any changes from the USB branch 19:28 < srwarren> this time around 19:28 < marvin24> it always "hanged" here 19:28 < marvin24> but it works fine on u-boot-usb 19:28 < srwarren> on what - I'm pretty sure I've netbooted (USB Ethernet) a kernel on the AC100... 19:28 < marvin24> so this will autosolve itself ;-) 19:28 < marvin24> usb start ... 19:29 < srwarren> Well, it depends on what the problem is; if it's a regression introduced in the latest u-boot-tegra/master, the problem will just propagate 19:29 < marvin24> no, I merged u-boot-usb to u-boot-tegra and it worked 19:30 < marvin24> a few weeks ago I also got a lot of unaligned access which is also fixed now 19:30 < marvin24> so all in all, nice progress 19:30 < srwarren> That's very odd - I just used u-boot-tegra/next (which is directly based on u-boot-tegra/master) and used USB on Harmony. I can't see that AC100 would be any different. 19:32 <*> Quits ->elementz [~elementz@unaffiliated/elementz] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:32 < marvin24> well, I will recheck 19:41 < marvin24> srwarren: usb on u-boot-tegra/next still hangs: 19:41 < marvin24> Tegra20 (Paz00) MOD # usb start 19:41 < marvin24> (Re)start USB... 19:41 < marvin24> USB: Register 10011 NbrPorts 1 19:41 < marvin24> that's all 19:43 < marvin24> I think the patches from lynxeye had some purpose ... 19:43 < srwarren> Do you have the ULPI port enabled? lynxeye's patches were for USB2/ULPI IIRC 19:43 < srwarren> Admittedly, I'm running on u-boot-tegra/next from a couple days back, right before lynxeye's ULPI patches were removed 19:44 < marvin24> sure we have ulpi port 19:44 < marvin24> a hub and wifi is connected to it 19:46 < marvin24> srwarren: I have two uboot patches floating around here 19:46 < marvin24> one for i2c support and one for lp0 19:46 < marvin24> does it make sense to submit them (they are trivial)? 19:46 < srwarren> Ah, I bet if you remove those it'll work fine. 19:47 < srwarren> Sure, send the patches upstream. 19:47 < srwarren> (By "those" in my previous comment, I meant the ULPI port, which shouldn't be enabled before U-Boot actually has ULPI support...) 19:48 < marvin24> ah, is there a "define"? 19:49 < marvin24> (to remove it) 19:49 < srwarren> It'd be triggered by a .dts entry. It shouldn't be present in the upstream code; you'd have added it yourself 19:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052231113.adsl.alicedsl.de] 19:51 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 19:51 < srwarren> I just checked my local branch, and only USB3 is enabled on paz00, as expected 19:56 < marvin24> srwarren: no, I enabled nothing extra 19:56 < marvin24> two ports are disabled in the dts 19:56 < srwarren> oh, you said you had the ulpi port enabled... 19:57 < marvin24> yes 19:57 srwarren is confused then 19:57 < marvin24> me too 19:57 < srwarren> OK, so do you have the ULPI port enabled or not? 19:58 < srwarren> If you didn't do anything to enable it, it should be disabled, yet you just said again that it was enabled 19:59 < marvin24> the c500000 and c5004000 are disabled in the dts 19:59 < marvin24> don't know if one of these is ulpi 19:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:00 < srwarren> 4000 is USB2/ULPI 20:01 < marvin24> yes, so it should be disabled 20:01 < marvin24> I'll decompile the dtb 20:02 < marvin24> still disabled 20:03 < srwarren> in that case, I fail to see how lynxeye's patches could affect anything, since they were adding support for USB2/ULPI 20:08 < marvin24> it finds only usb3 here 20:08 < marvin24> so ulpi is really disabled 20:09 < marvin24> I just double checked, u-boot-tegra/next + usb patches still hangs 20:09 < marvin24> while u-boot/master + usb patches works fine 20:09 < marvin24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197048/ 20:10 < marvin24> so maybe something in u-boot-tegra causes problems 20:14 < marvin24> srwarren: this is what I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197057/ 20:14 < marvin24> against u-boot/master 20:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde_ [~henning@f052067135.adsl.alicedsl.de] 20:15 marvin24 goes of to check what they eat in india 20:18 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052231113.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:19 < srwarren> marvin24, can you please report this issue to Tom Warren on the U-Boot mailing list so he can track it? 20:19 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 20:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 21:13 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst__ [~stenzel@pD9E43707.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] 21:46 < marvin24> srwarren: ok 21:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3989B.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:50 < mase76> hi! one weekend at vacation, and the new driver arrives. Any experience? The glitches in the xfce contol panel are still there. and i have to replace the xfwm by itself to get clean title bars. now i am building the new r16 kernel. errors with ov14810, i disabled that module. 21:51 < mase76> but there seems to be no cairo problem any more. 21:52 < srwarren> marvin24, I just pulled to very latest u-boot-tegra/next, applied zero modifications, and it works fine on the AC100; "usb start" works. 21:52 < srwarren> marvin24, which compiler are you using? 21:55 < marvin24> ubuntu's (liano, 4.6.3, armel) 21:55 < marvin24> srwarren: the only special on my device is that I removed wifi and 3g modem card 21:55 < srwarren> Hmm. that doesn't seem to be in the 10.04 repos; is there a PPA for it? 21:56 < marvin24> I use 12.04, gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi is the package 21:56 < marvin24> I recheck with a really clean branch 22:02 < marvin24> srwarren: found that it only fails when I execute my boot script 22:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stroughtonsmith [~steven@86-42-145-7-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] 22:08 < srwarren> marvin24, ah, I interrupted boot and ran "usb start" manually. 22:09 < srwarren> can you isolate the issue and create a set of commands you can run interactively to trigger the problem? 22:09 < marvin24> unfortunately, I cannot anymore :-( 22:10 < marvin24> I fail now to reproduce it 22:10 < marvin24> stupid me 22:10 < marvin24> ah, stop 22:10 < marvin24> wrong directory ;-) 22:10 < srwarren> Maybe a bad incremental build of U-Boot then; IIRC, the U-Boot Makefiles have poor dependency tracking, so I often build completely clean every time 22:10 < marvin24> I always do a "git clean -fdx" 22:17 < marvin24> ok, u-boot-tegra/next (with git clean, git reset) fails 22:17 < marvin24> srwarren: because it works for you and my machine has some "open ports on the hub", I will attribute it to this hw mod 22:18 < marvin24> I cannot test it on my good ac100 because it has no serial solderd 22:21 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] [Read error: No route to host] 22:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] 22:22 < marvin24> srwarren: do you load uboot with tegrarcm ? 22:22 < marvin24> I do: sudo tegrarcm --bct paz00.bct --bootloader u-boot/u-boot-dtb-tegra.bin --loadaddr 0x108000 && sudo minicom -D /dev/ttyUSB0 22:26 < srwarren> Historically, I've used nvflash to burn U-Boot. Recently, it's grown enough support that I build a flash image using cbootimage, transfer it to the device using an SD card or USB ethernet, then burn it using the previous U-Boot. 22:26 < srwarren> I have also used tegrarcm - the testing I did with it today certainly used tegrarcm 22:26 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3989B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 22:27 < srwarren> WiFi shouldn't affect this; it's either on SDIO, or USB2 which won't be touched. 22:28 < srwarren> I guess 3G is on the USB3 port, which is what's enabled in the AC100 U-Boot build... 22:28 < srwarren> Does it work in the kernel though - either the external full-size USB port or the webcam? If so, it's a bug in U-Boot that might be good to track down, although if merging with u-boot-usb fixes it for you, perhaps it's not worth chasing too much. 22:29 < marvin24> yes, the 3g modem is on usb3 22:29 < marvin24> it died for some reason 22:30 < marvin24> but the full usb port works 22:30 < marvin24> arrr, bisect does not work in reverse mode 22:30 < srwarren> It does if you lie to it and tell if the opposite of pass/fail, and swap the bad/good commits... 22:32 <*> Quits ->Snark_ [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 22:33 < marvin24> srwarren: the last commit on u-boot-usb fixes it: 8187c2d usb: do explicit unaligned accesses 22:39 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40 < marvin24> if I only apply this patch to u-boot-tegra, it also works 22:46 < srwarren> Ahah. IIRC, there were discussions related to that patch that indicate that different toolchains might do different things, all legal, without that patch. That could well explain our differences in behaviour. 22:47 < srwarren> That might also explain why, for NVIDIA's internal Tegra30 U-Boot branch, if I built with one toolchain, USB worked, but if I built with another, USB didn't - that might also have been a hang during usb start. 22:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] 22:48 < srwarren> That internal branch is based off a very old U-Boot; nothing like upstream any more, so undoubtedly doesn't have anything like that fix. 22:48 < srwarren> Thanks for tracking it down. 22:51 < srwarren> ogra, when is the latest date by which you'd need an X ABI 13 Tegra driver in order to get it into Quantal? 22:52 < srwarren> Oh wow, the final release is only 5 weeks away 22:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 23:03 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:04 < fly-away> hiii 23:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 23:06 < fly-away> hmm 23:06 < fly-away> where is 12.10 beta-1 for ac100? 23:08 < woglinde_> why you need it? 23:08 < fly-away> why not? 23:10 < fly-away> I need any working 12.10 image 23:12 < woglinde_> why you need an 12.10 image working? 23:12 < woglinde_> I dont need one 23:13 < woglinde_> an there is no xorg-tegra driver for 12.10 23:13 < fly-away> why? 23:13 < fly-away> l4t 15 dont work? 23:14 < fly-away> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.10/beta-1/lubuntu-12.10-beta1-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz 23:14 < fly-away> anyway find it 23:27 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-btjeuiumkunvsdos] [Quit: Verlassend] 23:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3989B.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:28 < mase76> does standby work for you? 23:32 < woglinde_> mase who do you mean? 23:33 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3989B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Read error: No route to host] 23:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3989B.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p549436D4.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:48 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] --- Day changed Tue Sep 11 2012 00:20 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 00:22 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@f053078135.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 00:24 <*> Quits ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 <*> Quits ->juice19 [sky61019@2001:da8:e000:1203:508b:5651:7d33:8222] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juice19 [sky61019@2001:da8:e000:1203:508b:5651:7d33:8222] 01:00 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3989B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21 <*> Quits ->woglinde_ [~henning@f052067135.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:24 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 01:35 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Client Quit] 01:39 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 02:15 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 02:29 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Remote host closed the connection] 02:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 02:30 <*> Quits ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [Client Quit] 02:38 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 02:56 <*> Quits ->afaerber [~andreasf_@p549436D4.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Verlassend] 02:56 <*> Quits ->stroughtonsmith [~steven@86-42-145-7-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] [Quit: stroughtonsmith] 03:22 <*> Quits ->Guest56522 [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 04:18 <*> leviathan is now known as Guest93777 04:54 < cobalt60> Hello all. I got my ac100 with Ubuntu installed by the seller. I broke the install, so need to install an OS. Suggestions? Any serious alternatives to Ubuntu? Any reason not to use Debian? 04:59 < micolous> ubuntu is the easiest to install on there, but you should look at the debianisation page on the wiki to cut it down 04:59 < micolous> unity runs terribly on AC100 04:59 < micolous> lxde runs nice 05:00 < micolous> there's another page with debian stuff, but it's much harder to install 05:00 < micolous> (i say this as a regular debian user on my other machines) 05:02 < micolous> http://ac100.grandou.net/ubuntu_deubuntuization 05:04 < micolous> and yeah, i successfully bricked my AC100 ubuntu install before, the only way i recovered was reflash :( 05:05 < micolous> oh nice, there's an lubuntu 12.10 image now 05:06 micolous bookmarks 05:06 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Quit: Miranda IM! 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fly-away> hi2all 10:56 < fly-away> there is no hw video acceleration with l4t r15? 10:56 < fly-away> no nvgstplayer? 11:03 < phh> read the release notes ? 11:03 < phh> but r16 have it 11:05 < fly-away> r16 already released? 11:06 < stuw> please check nv site and read logs ;-) 11:06 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst__ [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-jiopeutwuevoayux] 11:06 < phh> it has been released on the 4th iirc 11:17 < fly-away> thx 11:17 < fly-away> but how you get it working? 11:17 < fly-away> in ubuntu 12.04 kernel 3.0.7 11:18 < fly-away> in ubuntu 12.10 xorg abi version 13 11:18 < fly-away> and this drivers use 3.1.10 and abi 12 max 11:25 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:26 < phh> kernel is a problem ... ? 11:26 < phh> i'd said the interface is quite stable 11:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 11:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->xranby [~xranby@labb.zafena.se] 11:39 <*> Quits ->ppisati 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already; but am quite unsure how to approach this... 13:20 < elementz> maybe somebody could help - even hold my hand while trying to do this? ;-) 13:29 < zombah> elementz: this howto is correct 13:29 < zombah> elementz: only dont forget to switch to correct git branch 13:30 < elementz> zombah: ah ok. thats what i was wandering; how would i do that? 13:30 < elementz> wandering/wondering 13:32 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:32 < zombah> elementz: git checkout branch-name -b local-branch-name 13:32 < zombah> elementz: try gogling it youll find alot of good git documentations 13:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 13:34 < elementz> zombah: reading up on it right now. thx :-) 13:36 < zombah> elementz: just noticed that your compiling not for native compiling on arm, if you plan to cross compile on intel, you need to add ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-eabi- envs to all make commands 13:39 < 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with it, no ? 18:26 <*> Quits ->gcst__ [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-jiopeutwuevoayux] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:26 < mase76> still glitches in the xfce panel, problems with the windowmanager, i have to reload it sometimes with --replace. 18:26 < mase76> video playback works. 18:26 < mase76> and no standby / resume. 18:26 < ogra_> try with composite disabled 18:27 < ogra_> would be surprising if they once got suspend/resume to work :) 18:27 < ogra_> but i would really like to see all the themeing bugs with gecko and GTK fixed 18:27 < mase76> compositing is disabled in xfce. so resuming also does not work for you? 18:28 < ogra_> resuming never worked for me with any of the binary drivers 18:28 < ogra_> and i dont have a r16 kernel yet, waiting for marvin24 and jani to produce a package 18:28 < ogra_> well, for jani to roll a package once mark rebased on r16 18:28 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:29 < mase76> the only thing, i don't have to downgrade cairo any more. 18:29 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-rdonvciknjctgemo] [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:29 < ogra_> heh 18:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 18:34 < mase76> maybe the driver r17 will fix the remaining bugs, after some months. 18:35 < ogra_> haha 18:35 < ogra_> wishful thinking 18:35 < mase76> the hope dies last, but it dies. 18:36 ogra_ just upgraded one of his ac100's to 32G and a 1280x720 panel 18:36 < ogra_> really a lot nicer than the default setup ... 18:36 < ogra_> not that the USB disk is much faster in hdparm ... but it seems to handle concurrent accesses way better 18:37 < stuw> ogra_, did you solder 32 gb mmc on 8 gb model? 18:37 < mase76> ogra_: an usb ssd? 18:37 < ogra_> stuw, nope, i used a miniPCI-> USB adapter and a usb 3.0 USB key 18:37 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:38 < stuw> ogra_, ah, In any case - congrats :) 18:38 < ogra_> http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PM3U.html 18:39 < mase76> i also built in an usb stick. but it was much slower than the emmc. the usb stick should be somewhat faster, but it isn't. now i use it internal as additional space. 18:39 < ogra_> the key's PCB is exactly the size of the cutout :) 18:39 < mase76> i think, it it because the stick has no cache. 18:39 < ogra_> yeah 18:39 < ogra_> well, i explicitly chose a 3.0 key 18:39 < mase76> you don't need the breakout module. there are only a few lines to solder. 18:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 18:39 < ogra_> so the controller and chips should be able to handle a higher bandwith 18:40 < ogra_> and in fact i get around 18MB/s with hdparm (vs 16MB/s i see on the mounted mmc) 18:41 < mase76> i also did a hw mod to make usb hostmode switchable by sw. 18:41 < mase76> but the current kernels do not allow switching. 18:41 ogra_ will try the overclocking bits too 18:41 < ogra_> not the 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[~henning@g225075021.adsl.alicedsl.de] 22:25 < elementz> while trying to compile marvins r16 kernel i get error messages. maybe somebody could have a look at the output: http://pastebin.com/tTctVzDu 22:26 < elementz> maybe somebody can make something of that error message? 22:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B4EE.dip.t-dialin.net] 22:32 < juliank> Google's safe browsing list blacklisted pastebin.com here because it includes stuff from zabavnica.com which distributes malware. 22:33 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] [] 22:35 < elementz> juliank: http://pastie.org/4703535 22:39 < zombah> elementz: you building paz00_defconfig or custom config? 22:40 < elementz> zombah: the paz00_defconfig 22:40 < zombah> elementz: hm strange then. try to disable that netfilter module in config and rebuild without it 22:41 < elementz> ok. will try 22:41 < elementz> can use menuconfig for that? 22:42 < zombah> sure, make paz00_defconfig then make menuconfig 22:42 < elementz> zombah: thx :) 22:43 < zombah> inside menuconfig you can search vars with / 22:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 22:58 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.152.168] 23:00 < rpiloose> elementz: hi, I disabled CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_QTAGUID and CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_QUOTA when I tried a build without IPv6 23:00 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.152.168] [] 23:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] 23:14 < woglinde> ah yes there is a problem with ipv6 and this netfilter module 23:14 < woglinde> but thats android kernel problem 23:15 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-6-4.21-151.libero.it] 23:55 < fly-away> hi2all 23:55 < fly-away> there is no 12.04.1 installer for ac100? 23:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst__ [~stenzel@pD9E411B5.dip.t-dialin.net] --- Day changed Wed Sep 12 2012 00:03 < zombah> marvin24: hello, i found that nvec_power in 3.1-exp and rel-15r7 miss any suspend int, is planned this way? 00:09 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 00:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 00:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 00:24 < marvin24> zombah: you mean suspend for nvec_power or suspend for the whole machine 00:24 < marvin24> ? 00:26 < zombah> marvin24: i mean in nvec_power nothing about suspend, maybe i miss something and need to look in other place? 00:27 < marvin24> suspend is initialized in board-paz00 00:27 < marvin24> well, at least to gpio is defined as wake source 00:28 < marvin24> suspend is done in nvec.c (suspend function) 00:29 < marvin24> sorry, I still haven't replaced all the meaningfull nvec command strings 00:29 < zombah> but nvec_event has it own nvec_event_suspend 00:29 < zombah> and ps2 have nvec_mouse_suspend 00:29 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:30 < marvin24> sure, every driver should have a suspend function 00:30 < marvin24> well, most should 00:30 < marvin24> if they have something to do 00:30 < zombah> nvec_power dont need one? 00:30 < marvin24> not that I know of 00:31 < marvin24> what do you want to tell the battery on suspend? 00:31 < marvin24> you can check what tthe original code does though 00:31 < zombah> i dont have any exact ideas yet 00:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@mek33-6-88-181-14-68.fbx.proxad.net] 00:31 < marvin24> I know some boards have their suspend stuff in board-*-power.c 00:32 < marvin24> but that makes no sense for us 00:32 < marvin24> because suspend is not (directly) triggered by the tps6586x 00:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.152.168] 00:33 < marvin24> on suspend, nvec will tell the tps to power off the rails 00:34 < elementz> i managed compile my first zImage. now what should i do with the resulting zImage file? simply move it to ubuntus /boot dir? or should i run the install.sh script? 00:35 < zombah> i see, thanks for explanation, gonna try to understand how it works 00:35 < marvin24> elementz: you can put it anywhere you want 00:35 < marvin24> but you have to "flash" it with abootimg 00:35 < rpiloose> elementz: twice hi, do a backup of your partition 6 (/dev/mmcblk0p2)... 00:36 < elementz> oh man. this gets more complicated everytime i get into it 00:36 < elementz> is there a complete howto somewhere? 00:36 < elementz> rpiloose: :) 00:36 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@159-205-229-67.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37 < rpiloose> elementz: NP, dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p2 of=/tmp/part6_`uname -r`_U12.04_20120911.img 00:38 < rpiloose> elementz: put your resulting image somewhere in a safe place (e.g. accessible by SOSBOOT [USB Key or SD Card or /dev/mmcblk0p7]) 00:39 < zombah> marvin24: our power button support long press event? i cant get from original source how it was working in 2.6.32 00:39 < rpiloose> marvin24: hi, you said that document is incomplete http://www.scribd.com/doc/81447396/Tegra2-Embedded-Controller-Interface-Specification-20111117 00:40 < rpiloose> marvin24: do you know a more accurate document? 00:40 < elementz> rpiloose: thx 00:40 < rpiloose> elementz: and after do... 00:41 < rpiloose> elementz: abootimg -u /dev/mmcblk0p2 -k YourNewzImage but if it's a 3.1 kernel you need to adjust your cmdline... 00:42 < fly-away> hmm 00:44 < rpiloose> elementz: is there a complete howto somewhere? <-- http://ac100.grandou.net/abootimg?s[]=abootimg 00:44 < fly-away> guys, have you binary of l4t-r16-ac100 kernel? 00:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-78-115.adsl.inetia.pl] 00:46 < rpiloose> fly-away: hi, not me because it is unbootable (freeze @ toshiba splash screen)... :-/ 00:46 < fly-away> hmm 00:46 < fly-away> r16 nvidia drivers will work only with this kernel? 00:47 < rpiloose> fly-away: perhaps Arch Linux it is a bit at cutting edge ... with gcc 4.7.1 00:48 < fly-away> you mean you build kernel in ac100? 00:48 < fly-away> not on you desktop? 00:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Eric___ [d8e47015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.228.112.21] 00:50 < zombah> marvin24: original source seems to have some suspend stuff https://gitorious.org/ac100/kernel/blobs/1d0d7ff80526d0f6451d230a81349dac01b466c1/drivers/power/nvec_battery.c#line657 but it look to me like dummy code 00:52 <*> Quits ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.152.168] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.152.168] 00:55 < rpiloose> fly-away: Yes on one of my AC100, both are my only desktop... 00:56 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.152.168] [] 01:01 < fly-away> marvin24, did you try l4t-r16 kernel on ac100? 01:01 < fly-away> is it works? 01:03 < woglinde> zombah only a guard no to poll battery status in suspend mode 01:04 < woglinde> s/no/not 01:05 < zombah> woglinde: thanks, so in current nvec_power we dont use it? 01:06 < 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Try a Kindleberry! http://www.ponnuki.net/2012/09/kindleberry-pi/ 11:32 < phh> ac100 too big, but use a full sized keyboard 11:32 < phh> how to put that. 11:35 < paultrafalgar> phh u can use the kindle keyboard 11:37 < paultrafalgar> or use a keyboard you find on your travels - most people have them 11:40 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41 < phh> no need to use the rasp pi for keyboard then :p 11:41 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 11:45 < marvin24> you can use the ec directly, it has a keyboard connected already ;-) 11:51 < paultrafalgar> marvin24 ec? 11:51 < marvin24> the embedded controller 11:52 < paultrafalgar> an amusing proof of concept though n'est-ce pas? 11:53 < paultrafalgar> not many watts to be used? 12:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 12:12 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 12:15 < Snark> marvin24, well, those partitions don't look like they're that useful at the moment... 12:16 < marvin24> yeah, just drop them all, kill the tegra partitions and replace them with a proper gpt 12:17 < Snark> gpt ? 12:19 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:21 < paultrafalgar> Unity Debacle Sets Back Ubuntu On The ARM Desktop http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE4MjI 12:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 12:22 < marvin24> Snark: efi partition table 12:23 < Snark> marvin24, to do that I'll need two things : 1. enough time to tinker with my main work box 2. a good tutorial 12:23 < Snark> point 1 won't happen before the end of october, I think 12:24 < marvin24> I really would like to see uboot replacing fastboot for 13.04 12:24 < ogra_> paultrafalgar, what a nonsense 12:25 < marvin24> but I again failed to boot a 3.1 kernel with it 12:25 < marvin24> something is wrong with usb initialization 12:27 < paultrafalgar> ogra expand - losing gnome after all these years is a pain to me 12:27 < ogra_> ..."In the x86 world most hardware has open-source 3D drivers that ship "out of the box" in Ubuntu so you always have 3D hardware acceleration and never have to worry about this Compiz/Unity-over-LLVMpipe."... 12:27 < ogra_> LOL !!! 12:27 < ogra_> paultrafalgar, 90% of what he writes is unresearched nonsensse 12:28 < paultrafalgar> ok 12:29 < ogra_> llvmpipe has no arm code at all, it isnt an option on ARM currently without a few people putting in a few months of fulltime work 12:29 < ogra_> he winds up on a known but with certain panda models that was release noted for beta .... 12:29 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:29 < ogra_> (if he would have read the notes he would have known ...) 12:30 < ogra_> "Ubuntu does package like the official OMAP binary blob for 3D support, but it's not enabled by default" 12:30 < ogra_> and thats a pure lie apt could have helped him to check before writing such utter nonsense 12:31 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 12:31 < paultrafalgar> ogra not knowledgeable enough to comment 12:31 < ogra_> "My suggestion for those manually playing with the Ubuntu ARM images that care about a desktop would be to use the Ubuntu ARM server pre-installed image. " 12:32 < ogra_> the preinstalled image was dropped with the precise release 12:32 < ogra_> again, no hard to find out if you research facts for amn article 12:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->cmongis [~Tactilofa@salle001.emi.u-bordeaux1.fr] 12:37 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 12:53 < stuw> ogra_, ping :) 12:53 < ogra_> stuw, yeah, just looking at the ucm stuff :) 12:53 < stuw> ogra_, ok, thanks! 12:53 ogra_ doesnt think alsa-driver is the right package for teh bug though 12:56 < ogra_> stuw, why do you set headset and speaker playback so low ? 12:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] 12:57 < ogra_> (iirc 100% is 255 in ucm files, setting everything to 21 will be really really quiet) 12:57 <*> Quits ->cmongis [~Tactilofa@salle001.emi.u-bordeaux1.fr] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:58 < stuw> ogra_, AFAIU this valies not from 0 to 255. Just try to set 63 for master volume and check alsamixer. Master volume will be at max 12:59 < ogra_> well, i actually pulled the values out of amixer initially 12:59 ogra_ checks 13:00 < ogra_> oh, that ust have changed since i wrote the original patch, you are right, i see 0-63 now 13:01 < stuw> Ah, good to know. I was confused when tried to set 50% volume and got 100% in alsamixer 13:01 < ogra_> (i'm 100% sure that 120 was ~50% when i added it initially, i remember checking a few times) 13:02 < stuw> I mean I decreased value and got 100% anyway :) 13:02 < ogra_> hah 13:13 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Quit: leaving] 13:21 <*> Quits ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-188-212.as13285.net] [Quit: Leaving] 13:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-wpkdnpjbrgdwipee] 13:32 < ogra_> stuw, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/quantal-changes/2012-September/008987.html 13:33 < ogra_> thanks for the fix ! 13:34 < stuw> cool! you are welcome! 13:39 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy [~quassel@81-174-41-31.v4.ngi.it] 14:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/novell/x-tlbhjemzmbnezejh] 14:23 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A8A4.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AC7E.dip.t-dialin.net] 15:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-107-91.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] 15:04 <*> Quits ->lenios_ [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-107-91.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Quit: Leaving] 15:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF8E9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 15:14 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF8E9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 15:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] 15:17 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@APuteaux-652-1-107-91.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Changing host] 15:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] 15:39 < marvin24> zombah: the power button generates a message after 1 sec and hard powers off after ~5 sec 15:39 < marvin24> the message is what android uses 15:40 < ogra_> and ubuntu (nome-power-manager or xfce4-power-manager at least) 15:40 < marvin24> yes, KEY_POWER is forwarded to userspace 15:41 < marvin24> see nvec_event.c 15:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 15:43 < stuw> marvin24, short power button press generates event, long - generates key press event. 15:43 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44 < stuw> marvin24, long press in term of android is [push_down, timeout, release] 15:45 < marvin24> does it distinguish between short and long? 15:46 < marvin24> e.g. press short generates a different message as press long ? 15:46 < stuw> yes 15:46 < stuw> from my point of view it's not easy to send long press in android terms from kernel 15:47 < marvin24> so I guess we don't catch the long event 15:47 < marvin24> what is it used for anyway? 15:47 < marvin24> message: "sorry, you will loose all your data now - have a nive day!" 15:47 < stuw> marvin24, we don't catch in linux kernel. I made patch for zombah to catch long press in nvec_keyboard. 15:48 < zombah> marvin24: android use two events on power button, short for suspend, longpress 2 sec for power menu (reboot,power off etc) 15:48 < stuw> marvin24, short press - suspend, long press - power/system menu 15:48 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:49 < stuw> events on power button = POWER_KEY key code IIRC 15:50 < marvin24> ah, ok 15:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 15:50 < marvin24> nvec_event.c has this commented out 15:50 < marvin24> does the ec send a special message for long press? 15:50 < marvin24> short is 0x80 15:51 < stuw> marvin24, one moment 15:53 < marvin24> http://gitorious.org/ac100/kernel/blobs/2.6.32/drivers/ec_odm/ec_odm_event.c#line195 15:53 < marvin24> doesn't seem to do 15:57 < stuw> https://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-marvin24s-kernel/blobs/rel-15r7-ac100/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec_kbd.c#line59 - long press handler is under this if (with additional checks of course) 15:58 < stuw> marvin24, I will try to find nvec messages for both cases in irc log 16:02 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:03 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:06 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 16:06 < stuw> marvin24, long press generates message "c0 04 ..." (AFAIK keybord event). Short press generates system message. I didn't find more detailed info :( 16:06 < stuw> *system message = system event 16:07 < marvin24> it should print out some message in dmesg 16:08 < stuw> I have no gmesg logs. I tried to find something in irc log. I added few messages to nvec to find what's going on with nvec 16:10 <*> Quits ->Unseen2 [snowcat@snowcat.de] [Quit: Gone.] 16:10 < juliank> marvin24: Only short presses print stuff to dmesg. 16:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Unseen2 [snowcat@snowcat.de] 16:11 < marvin24> so the long one seems to report via something else 16:12 < stuw> long isn't processed in current implementation 16:15 <*> Quits ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] 16:22 < juliank> stuw: IIRC, we print all unhandled OEM (???) commands to dmesg, and it should be handled this way. 16:22 < juliank> If not, then it is a different type of message the long press creates. 16:23 < stuw> juliank, long press handled by nvec_kbd (https://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-marvin24s-kernel/blobs/rel-15r7-ac100/drivers/staging/nvec/nvec_kbd.c#line59 ) - condition on line 60 is true for long press. 16:23 < stuw> *is handled 16:24 < juliank> Yes, that's what I said. Not a system event like the others. 16:29 < stuw> Got it, I meant "is not proceeded" = "no events to userspace" 16:41 < juliank> I guess that zombah's kernel is a bit broken. It reserves 128M for the graphics, but still keeps the memory bank at 448M in tegra_paz00_fixup(), but that should be less as far as I can tell 16:43 < juliank> If you have 128M video memory, you can't have 448M system memory, if you only have 512M in total 16:46 < zombah> juliank: but it work somehow, i didnt notice any graphics problems yet in android 16:48 < zombah> juliank: all usual stuff work fine, videos, 3d games. probably i need to make more extensive test, but dunno how 16:52 < juliank> It should not work if you have fully utilized RAM + heavy 3D graphics. 16:53 <*> Quits ->Vandroy [~quassel@81-174-41-31.v4.ngi.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DanSwano [~danswano@195.88.1.222] 16:54 < zombah> juliank: i'll be happy if any experienced developer can help to improve android support in ac100 kernel, because im newbie. maybe you can help with it? 16:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy [~quassel@81-174-41-31.v4.ngi.it] 16:56 < zombah> juliank: some users report crashes when chrome it all ram, this is probably effect of my not clear solution for memory maping 16:58 < juliank> zombah: Maybe. I've already thought about running ICS on my AC100, for my mother (given that running a GNU/Linux distribution with the current state of drivers is not really useful for stuff like youtube, and gmail is not really working well either). 16:59 < zombah> juliank: i already maybe nearly very good working android build. most limitations left are kernel dependend 17:04 < zombah> juliank: you can check current version here https://code.google.com/p/cm-paz00/ 17:06 < juliank> zombah: I know. Unfortunately, all builds seem to be for russian models, and the downgrading part is not very funny either. I think I could flash this manually by hand-extracting the system image and fixing it up, but I don't know whether I want to do this. 17:08 < juliank> And I'd probably prefer raw AOSP to CM. I don't know how large the differences between those two are. 17:08 < zombah> juliank: they not depend on models it was like my mistake in naming. 17:09 < zombah> juliank: i can publish exact partition images for you 17:09 < zombah> juliank: not much difference between them imho. i can also build aosp its not a problem at all 17:17 <*> Quits ->elgaard [~elgaard@109.70.52.178] [Quit: Leaving.] 17:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->elgaard1 [~elgaard@109.70.52.178] 17:22 < zombah> juliank: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32472722/ac100_stuff/cm9-ac100-beta3_test5.tar.gz 17:24 < zombah> juliank: this is archive with images you can simply nvflash to your system without downgrading to 2.1 bootloader 17:25 < juliank> zombah: Cool, thanks. I'll try it out sometime this week. 17:25 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Excess Flood] 17:32 < juliank> Or actually, I guess I'll try it out now. 17:36 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:40 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@mek33-6-88-181-14-68.fbx.proxad.net] 17:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 17:42 <*> Quits ->svp [~svp@62.112.106.78] [Quit: Leaving.] 17:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 18:02 <*> Quits ->gcst [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-wpkdnpjbrgdwipee] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:14 <*> Quits ->Vandroy [~quassel@81-174-41-31.v4.ngi.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 < juliank> zombah: Yes, it seems to work relatively well. Two finger scrolling is a bit stupid though, and the fonts could look better in my opinion. 18:15 < zombah> juliank: this things is tunable easy 18:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy [~quassel@81.174.41.31] 18:17 < zombah> juliank: you can play with touchpad settings they live in /system/usr/idc/ETPS* and manual about it vars here http://source.android.com/tech/input/touch-devices.html 18:20 < zombah> juliank: fonts live in /system/fonts/ also can be changed, i left default ones as this not big priority problem 18:20 < juliank> Right, but I meant the rendering of the fonts, not the fonts themselves 18:22 < zombah> ah hm then dunno, probably it is also tunable need to grep android source 18:23 < zombah> i used small foot print fonts to make system smaller, maybe will revert to standart maybe this will make them look better 18:24 < zombah> but this roboto fonts look ugly in big size, i think other fonts may look better 18:24 < ogra_> just upgrade the panel ;) 18:40 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@195.34.40.32] [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase_76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] 18:45 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AC7E.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:09 <*> Quits ->Eric___ [d8e47015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.228.112.21] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 19:10 <*> Quits ->mase_76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:14 <*> Quits ->Tactilofan [~Tactilofa@mek33-6-88-181-14-68.fbx.proxad.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->digit_zone [d991531b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.145.83.27] 19:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 19:39 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-78-115.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-255-216.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] 19:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 19:59 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] 20:04 <*> Quits ->digit_zone [d991531b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.145.83.27] [Quit: Page closed] 20:28 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] 20:48 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] 20:52 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] 20:59 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] 21:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 21:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E43249.dip.t-dialin.net] 21:40 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@tmo-102-95.customers.d1-online.com] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225005098.adsl.alicedsl.de] 22:00 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] 22:14 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-255-216.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-51-218.adsl.inetia.pl] 22:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@f053076103.adsl.alicedsl.de] 22:28 < savalik> marvin24: hello from russia! =) U have 2 minutes? =) 22:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->eric___ [d8e47015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.228.112.21] 22:30 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36 < savalik> mm..вообщем.. in our android 4 modem disappears after reboot .. miss on lsusb ) we think in reboot process android kernel dont send shutdown command to modem (sorry for my english) 22:37 < savalik> or its not kernel problem? ) 22:45 < woglinde> savalik might be a kernel problem 22:52 < savalik> how we can bring clarity to the process? =) 22:52 < Alex[sp3dev]> 1. find a working kernel 2. bisect 22:53 < woglinde> ask zombah 22:53 < woglinde> hi alex 22:53 < Alex[sp3dev]> woglinde: hi 22:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 22:55 < woglinde> he zombah 22:55 < woglinde> you have customers 22:55 < zombah> good evening woglinde 22:55 < savalik> oo...zombah =) 22:55 < savalik> I will torturing U ;) 22:56 < zombah> salute savalik 22:56 < zombah> ? %) 22:56 < marvin24> savalik: you may try change some of the ehci3 paramters (e.g. power_of_on_suspend or hotplug) 22:56 < marvin24> my 3g modem died 22:56 < woglinde> marvin? 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I don't know why, before the login screen appears, I get "could not read bytes broken pipe" 23:06 < morgan> but everything seems to be fine 23:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.136.65] 23:09 < rpiloose> morgan: under Ubuntu 12.10? 23:10 < morgan> I have ubuntu 12.04 installed 23:10 < morgan> a 12.10 image exists? 23:11 < morgan> for the ac 100 23:11 < rpiloose> morgan: ok, yes, Beta1 here: 23:11 <*> Quits ->eric_ [d8e47015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.228.112.21] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:12 < rpiloose> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.10/beta-1/lubuntu-12.10-beta1-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+ac100.tar.gz 23:13 < rpiloose> morgan: a little warm, it's a Beta1 which is a bit experimental! ;-) 23:13 < rpiloose> backgrounded& 23:13 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.136.65] [] 23:18 < morgan> recently I changed from 11.10 to 12.04, but good to know that there is a new version 23:18 < morgan> should I be worried about this error message? 23:22 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E4280B.dip.t-dialin.net] 23:30 < morgan> -> reboot 23:30 <*> Quits ->morgan [5847fbfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.71.251.252] [Quit: Page closed] 23:33 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->morgan [5847fbfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.71.251.252] 23:41 < morgan> the message is gone, I found a bad fstab entry 23:44 < morgan> is the toshiba rescue partition visible in ubuntu? I habe some partitions, 2 are empty (only folders like lost and found, downloads) 23:45 < morgan> and another partition with : anr data local property toshiba app dontpanic lost+found RT2870STA.dat app-private fonts misc system dalvik-cache format_storage ppp tombstones 23:46 < morgan> could I delete these files or is it the rescue partition? 23:48 < morgan> if not I could use this space --- Day changed Sat Sep 15 2012 00:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@79.165.229.35] 00:16 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 00:22 < fly-away> cc1: all warnings being treated as errors 00:22 < fly-away> why this going on? 00:40 < woglinde> -Werror 00:40 < fly-away> add -Wno-uninitialized 00:41 < fly-away> and r16 continue building 00:41 < fly-away> gcc 4.7.1 side effects i guess 01:01 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] [Quit: Verlassend] 01:05 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Remote host closed the connection] 01:27 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178131177.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 01:33 <*> Guest94844 is now known as leviathan 01:34 <*> leviathan is now known as daviathan 01:41 <*> Quits ->daviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 01:44 <*> leviathan is now known as Guest58102 01:53 <*> Quits ->morgan [5847fbfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.71.251.252] [Quit: Page closed] 02:03 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@79.165.229.35] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:10 <*> Quits ->Guest58102 [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leviathan [~quassel@2001:470:26:484:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8dca] 02:13 <*> leviathan is now known as Guest5838 02:58 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052231012.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:30 <*> Quits ->eric___ [d8e47015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.228.112.21] [Quit: Page closed] 03:46 <*> Quits ->gomiboy [~frodone@ppp-92-31.21-151.libero.it] [Quit: Leaving.] 04:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.157.142] 04:27 < rpiloose> morgan: in the hope you will read the logs, about your previous question: 04:29 < rpiloose> morgan: "is the toshiba rescue partition visible in ubuntu?", yes through a device and it is not a standard filesystem 04:31 < rpiloose> morgan: do a abootimg -i /dev/mmcblk0p1 to see it is a concatenation of kernel + initrd + second stage loader 04:33 < rpiloose> morgan: more information here http://ac100.grandou.net/partitionlayout and http://ac100.grandou.net/repartitioninternalstorage 04:35 < rpiloose> morgan: about the "another partition" is probably /dev/mmcblk0p6 which use by android, and if you don't any more to use Android 04:36 < rpiloose> morgan: you can reuse it to what ever you want, just a do a backup of this partition before in case of... 04:40 < rpiloose> morgan: http://ac100.grandou.net/backups 04:41 <*> Parts[#ac100] ->rpiloose [~luser@37.175.157.142] [] 05:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 06:21 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:03 <*> Quits ->juice19 [sky61019@2001:da8:e000:1203:508b:5651:7d33:8222] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 09:29 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] 09:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052229076.adsl.alicedsl.de] 09:37 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052229076.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:53 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 09:58 < fly-away> ogra_, hi there 10:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->fly [~fly@89.169.222.160] 10:56 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178141239.adsl.alicedsl.de] 10:56 <*> Quits ->fly [~fly@89.169.222.160] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:19 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 12:09 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052229076.adsl.alicedsl.de] 12:18 < ogra_> grmbl 12:19 < ogra_> i would relly like to know why my nvec dies all the time 12:19 < fly-away> I have build r16 kernel witm AVP_MMU and without NVAVP, so video hw acceleration work fine 12:19 < fly-away> in nvgstplayer 12:20 < ogra_> oh, you got it building ? 12:20 < marvin24> ogra_: with r16? 12:20 < fly-away> r16 nvidia drivers also work fine 12:20 < fly-away> no artefacts at all 12:20 < marvin24> or with 3.1.10-4 kernel? 12:20 < ogra_> marvin24, no, with the in-archive kernel, but recompiled with the display changed for 1280x720 12:21 < ogra_> fly-away, cool, now they only need to release it for the 13 abi 12:21 < fly-away> I look at the xorg drivers 12:21 < fly-away> for 10, 11 and 12 abi 12:21 < ogra_> marvin24, and i think it started after the rebuild ... but i didnt change anything buut resolutions and pixelclock 12:21 < fly-away> they all have same size 12:22 < fly-away> and differs only some bytes 12:22 < ogra_> fly-away, yeah, they dont help me on 12.10 ... the latest xserver preforms an abi check i think 12:22 < ogra_> and refuses to load it 12:22 < fly-away> I guess you can patch that binary)) 12:22 < ogra_> oh, sure ... i dont have anything else to do :) 12:22 < fly-away> to force say that its abi13 12:23 < ogra_> i think that violates the license though 12:23 < woglinde> yes 12:23 < ogra_> which means i cant ship it in ubuntu 12:23 < fly-away> that sad 12:23 < fly-away> hm 12:23 < ogra_> so we have to wait for nvidia to release an abi 13 version 12:24 < fly-away> btw suspend in my 12.04 ubuntu broken at all 12:24 < fly-away> ac100 wont wake up 12:24 < fly-away> how can I fix it? 12:24 < ogra_> marvin24, what is stragne about nvec dying is that it does that completely silently 12:24 < ogra_> fly-away, with the binary driver you cant 12:25 < ogra_> it should work with the in-archive kernel and fbdev driver in 12.04 12:25 < fly-away> hm 12:25 < ogra_> binary driver never worked properly in that regard 12:26 < fly-away> I dont think that userspace driver can touch suspend 12:27 < fly-away> now I stop lightdm, run pm-suspend 12:27 < fly-away> and same story 12:27 < ogra_> it is responsible for re-initilizing the display 12:27 < marvin24> ogra_: mmh, that's pretty unusual 12:27 < ogra_> marvin24, yes 12:28 < ogra_> i havent tried to ssh in yet to inspect it further ... will do that when i'm at home on sunday again 12:28 ogra_ is in berlin atm 12:28 < marvin24> ila? 12:29 < ogra_> but i cant imagine how changing the resolution and pixelclock would kill nvec 12:29 < ogra_> heh, no, though i was pondering taking the son of my firend there 12:29 < ogra_> but he is busy playing some online horror game... hard to get a 10 year old away from that ;) 12:30 < marvin24> ogra_: maybe you could try to reverse the patch 12:30 < marvin24> and check again 12:30 < marvin24> if you don't mind the display 12:30 < fly-away> if its a screen wakeup problem, its possible to reboot ac100 from console for example 12:30 < fly-away> but it fails too 12:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->leonro [~leonro@bzq-84-109-219-89.red.bezeqint.net] 12:30 < ogra_> marvin24, well, i do mind, but for a test i can recompile without the patch 12:31 < ogra_> hmm ... 12:31 < fly-away> mb its a sdcard-related problem? 12:31 < fly-away> cause my ubuntu installed on external sd 12:31 < ogra_> ah 12:31 < ogra_> you might need to tell your kernel about that 12:31 < fly-away> oh 12:31 < fly-away> how? 12:31 < ogra_> by poking some sysfs stuff to keep the SD alive during suspend 12:32 < fly-away> where can I find info about that? 12:32 < ogra_> i forgot how, but i had to do that in the past for systems running rootfs from USB 12:32 < ogra_> google ? 12:32 < ogra_> (was years ago that i had to do it) 12:33 < fly-away> any key phrase for google? 12:34 < marvin24> fly-away: resume on 3.1 is kinda broken for a long time now 12:34 < marvin24> can't say for sure what is responsible for it 12:36 < fly-away> marvin24, mb, but as i remember suspend failed to work even on 3.0.27 for me 12:37 < fly-away> with rootfs on sd 12:37 < ogra_> it works in the ubuntu default image 12:37 < ogra_> but i havent tested on SD 12:37 < ogra_> do you get any screen output ? 12:37 < fly-away> yes, it work with mmcblk0 installation 12:37 < fly-away> no at all 12:37 < ogra_> if the SD was suspended you should see a lot filesystem errors 12:37 < ogra_> right after resume 12:37 < fly-away> lcd totally black 12:38 < fly-away> after i pressed some key to wake up ac100, just one things going on - power lcd stop blinking 12:39 < fly-away> and start lightning 12:39 < marvin24> it's possible that it is also broken for 3.0, but maybe not on all device variations 12:39 < marvin24> it even sometimes resumes on 3.1 12:39 < marvin24> so, it is more or less random working 12:40 < marvin24> I need to install a reset button so I can use the ramconsole I guess 12:42 < woglinde> ogra hm oh I didnt know 12:42 < woglinde> but I have no time for a meeting 12:43 < ogra_> i'm in B every 5-6 weeks ... we can meet one day i guess :) 12:44 < woglinde> oh yes 12:44 < woglinde> for a beer 12:44 < ogra_> yeah 12:44 < woglinde> I am trying to get tomorrow to ILA 12:44 < woglinde> with my son 12:44 < woglinde> we were there two years ago 12:44 < woglinde> but tomorrow it will be over crowded 12:45 < woglinde> but friday's is school now 12:46 < woglinde> oh my god did apple lowered the price for the iphone5? 12:47 < ogra_> heh, nobody wants it because its so uninnovative ? 12:47 <*> Quits ->Vandroy_ [~quassel@88-149-167-213.v4.ngi.it] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:48 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-192-106.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:48 < ogra_> fly-away, ogra@horus:~$ grep UNSAFE /boot/config-3.1.10-4-ac100 12:48 < ogra_> CONFIG_MMC_UNSAFE_RESUME=y 12:48 < ogra_> do you have that set in your kernel build ? 12:49 < woglinde> unfornatyl the people buy it anyway 12:49 < ogra_> yeah 12:49 < woglinde> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/iPhone-5-Nachfrage-Apple-ist-ueberwaeltigt-1708719.html 12:49 < ogra_> but its forseeable that apple will die if they move on like that 12:49 < ogra_> with jobs it seems the innovation died 12:50 < ogra_> v5 is just a polished up v4 12:51 < ogra_> before each iteration had at least one new and convincing killer feature 12:51 < ogra_> now they just rplaced the display with a taller one and relapced all parts with the most recent ones 12:51 < ogra_> god, my typing 12:52 < woglinde> sure but what killerfeatures now left? 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13:26 < zombah> stuw_: nvec cant be build as module. i disabled it kernel config 13:26 < stuw_> ah ) ok ) 13:27 < zombah> when suspend freezing system last initcall i see is initcall tegra-alc5632.0_i+ returned 0 13:28 < zombah> next must be tegra-i2c 13:29 < zombah> wrong tegra-i2s 13:29 < zombah> im comparing succsessfull suspend dmesg with unsuccsessfull one 13:39 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-153-149.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan_ [~wapmorgan@62.122.240.156] 13:48 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-50-199.adsl.inetia.pl] 13:50 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:50 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan_ [~wapmorgan@62.122.240.156] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас] 13:55 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] 13:58 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-255-50-199.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:07 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-76-217.adsl.inetia.pl] 14:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->user_abc [b2031412@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.3.20.18] 14:40 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@62.122.240.156] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 14:43 < zombah> marvin24: i tried to suspend without our sound drivers and it seems to suspend 5 of 5 times 14:44 < marvin24> zombah: if you don't like nvec_ps2, better fix it ;-) 14:44 < zombah> marvin24: i love nvec_ps2 14:45 < marvin24> if fact, the touchpad cannot work without it 14:45 < marvin24> if it works for you, you booted the wrong kernel 14:45 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw__ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 14:45 < zombah> marvin24: btw one day you said that now day lp0_vec= not used anymore and what new algorightm for finding address of this recovery blob? 14:46 < zombah> marvin24: you right that was wrong kernel, i already found that 14:46 < zombah> i found in this patch description about LP0 resume http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=d9c01b3ce93ce4ab3bff842f726a1924ffdef860 14:48 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50 < user_abc> I just wanted to try out the actual lubuntu 12.10 image, but I get an "no tarball found" error, although the right file is on my usbkey 14:50 <*> Quits ->stuw__ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50 < user_abc> the same happens if I try to install the beta1 14:52 < user_abc> the tarballs are ok, I don´t know if this could be the problem, in the installer.md5 and installer.size there stand another tarball than the one provided 14:52 < ogra_> the name isnt used in that file 14:52 < ogra_> only the checksum 14:57 < user_abc> but, what could then be the problem? 14:59 < ogra_> does the checksum match the tarball you actually have ? 14:59 < ogra_> and is your usb stick properly partitioned ?` 15:00 < ogra_> (teh installer looks for a partition on the stick i.e. /dev/sda1 vs /dev/sda) 15:00 < user_abc> I´m not sure if teh checksum match, but crc seems ok ... 15:00 < user_abc> my usbkey has just one partition 15:01 < ogra_> so it shows up as sda1 when you plug it in ? 15:01 < ogra_> (or sdb1 sdc1...) 15:01 < ogra_> or just as sda (or sdb sdc) 15:02 < ogra_> also note that it needs to be either vfta or ext2 formatted 15:02 < user_abc> I can´t tell, because I´m on windows, but it could be that it showed only as sda in busybox 15:02 < ogra_> *VFAT 15:02 < user_abc> yeah, I use fat32 15:02 < ogra_> oops, sorry for the caps 15:03 < ogra_> well, it will fail again into a busybox prompt if yuo try it again, do that and check if there is a /dev/sda1 after it dropped you to the shell 15:03 < user_abc> nope, I only have /dev/sda 15:03 < ogra_> if not, you need to actually create a partition, format it and copy the tarball 15:04 < user_abc> hmm, but I formatted it and I can read it under windows 15:04 < ogra_> the installer looks for a properly partitioned device ... yours is just formatted without partition 15:05 < ogra_> so create one and it will work 15:07 < user_abc> ok, I will try 15:13 < marvin24> zombah: the lp0_vec comes from atags now which is parsed in the board file 15:13 < marvin24> zombah: is ps2 is really an issure, we may try to use early_suspend/resume as in the original driver 15:16 < zombah> marvin24: something wrong with lp0 resume, from lp1 i resume fine. but lp0 is always freeze with no console output 15:16 < user_abc> ogra_: thx, it worked 15:16 < ogra_> great 15:17 < user_abc> is there a difference between beta1 and the daily build? 15:17 < ogra_> i guess i need to figure out a way to make the installer work without partition one day 15:17 < marvin24> zombah: lp1 doesn't suspend all devices I think 15:17 < ogra_> user_abc, well, daily has all packages included that were uploaded since beta 15:17 < ogra_> beta will offer you to update to them 15:18 < ogra_> so it saves you the upgrade after install if you use daily ... 15:18 < user_abc> ok, then I don´t need to try the daily build 15:18 < user_abc> but can update 15:18 < ogra_> but daily doesnt get tested as much as beta so might have additional bugs 15:19 < zombah> marvin24: sure, but some board use it because they dont support lp0. i found it in this patch https://gitorious.org/~zombah/ac100/zombahs-marvin24s-kernel/commit/3ab7a1f8e024ff5fc2f88974ef69bd33abdca986 15:22 < marvin24> zombah: tegra2 != tegra3 15:23 < marvin24> but early tegra2 chips also had problems 15:23 < ogra_> pfft, details :P 15:23 < zombah> marvin24: this is only as example 15:23 < marvin24> it worked with 3.0 kernel, so it should also work on 3.1 15:28 <*> Quits ->user_abc [b2031412@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.3.20.18] [Quit: Page closed] 15:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 15:35 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BDA2.dip.t-dialin.net] 15:35 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BDA2.dip.t-dialin.net] [Client Quit] 15:36 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BDA2.dip.t-dialin.net] 15:41 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@213-238-76-217.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:46 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-82-106.adsl.inetia.pl] 15:51 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] [Read error: No route to host] 15:52 < zombah> marvin24: btw in l4t-r15 release notes i noticed issue that harnomy fails to enter LP0 15:55 < woglinde> so its time for my referree tasks till tonight 16:01 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@f052229076.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:05 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 16:55 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra_@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:06 < zombah> l4t-r16 release notes have same issue 17:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra_@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 17:23 <*> Quits ->ogra_ [~ogra_@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Client Quit] 17:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ogra_ [~ogra_@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 17:33 < zombah> found that its overridable from userspace, no need to change on kernel source side 17:33 < zombah> echo "lp1" > /sys/power/suspend/mode 17:50 < ogra_> and does that fix anything ? 17:51 < zombah> dunno need to make tests 17:51 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@77-253-82-106.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:51 ogra_ doubts it, but good luck 17:51 < zombah> but if release notes for r15/r16 says LP0 on harmony broken it can affect us also 17:52 < zombah> ogra_: but you said ubuntu suspend/resume fine? or i misunderstand something 17:58 < ogra_> zombah, the 12.04 default install if done to internal MMC works fine, yeah 18:00 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-204-128.adsl.inetia.pl] 18:09 < zombah> ogra_: and which kernel branch 12.04 use? 18:09 < ogra_> 3.0 18:09 < zombah> ah i see 18:10 < zombah> im talking about l4t-r15/r16 3.1.10 branches 18:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->]v[etalinjection [4db0d140@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.176.209.64] 18:10 < ]v[etalinjection> hello 18:11 < ]v[etalinjection> I have a question: My keychain says all the time that my login password isnt the same like the one for the keychain... how can I fix that on my AC100 ubuntu? 18:11 < ogra_> zombah, that didnt exist when 12.04 came out 18:12 < ogra_> -r15 was releases shortly after 12.04 18:12 < ogra_> *released 18:12 < zombah> there suspend in lp0, resume is 1oo% freeze for now. when switched to lp1 it resumes 18:24 < ]v[etalinjection> so, anyone can help me? 18:24 < ]v[etalinjection> or how do I reinstall ubuntu? 18:25 < ogra_> what do you mean by keychain ? 18:25 < ]v[etalinjection> well wait.. 18:26 < ]v[etalinjection> repeat what I do and send you the actual string - thx in advance, mate 18:27 < ]v[etalinjection> Window title: Unlock Login Keyring 18:27 < ogra_> ah 18:28 < ogra_> rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring 18:28 < ]v[etalinjection> Enter password to unlock your login keyring 18:28 < ogra_> that will remove the password for the keyring 18:28 < ]v[etalinjection> k, and than I have to reset one again.. init? 18:28 < ]v[etalinjection> k 18:28 < ]v[etalinjection> what exactly means the next sentence here: 18:28 < ogra_> not sure, but in any case the old one will be gone 18:29 < ]v[etalinjection> The password you use to log in to your computer no longer machtes that of your login keyring? 18:29 < ]v[etalinjection> what did I do wrong? 18:29 < ogra_> you were likely asked for a keyring password once in the past ... and you didnt use the same as you use for login 18:30 < ogra_> what ubuntu release is that ? 18:30 < ]v[etalinjection> ok.. cant remember when but is there a way to reset that or by deleting the file from above, is that done than? 18:30 < ]v[etalinjection> 12.04 18:30 < ]v[etalinjection> just instaled yesterday 18:30 < ogra_> removing the file will reset it to no passwprd 18:31 < ogra_> if it thinks it needs one it will ask you to set one again 18:31 < ]v[etalinjection> after finding out what I dead wrong before and the whiole device wasnt starting up anymore 18:31 < ]v[etalinjection> cool 18:31 < ]v[etalinjection> cheers mate, thats what I needed to know 18:32 < ogra_> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/01/16/reset-gnome-keyring-password-on-ubuntu/ 18:32 < ogra_> btw 18:32 < ]v[etalinjection> lovely - thx 18:32 < ogra_> 3rd hit on google 18:33 < ]v[etalinjection> well, if you know what this caused it is easy to look for sth on gogle 18:33 < ]v[etalinjection> since I didnt know what the actual problem was, I thought I asked some people who know stuff.. k?! 18:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] 18:39 < ]v[etalinjection> but it is working great, thx 18:39 < ogra_> :) 18:41 < fly-away> is there working flash plugin for linux? 18:42 < ogra_> sure 18:42 < fly-away> oh 18:42 < fly-away> where can i get it? 18:42 < ogra_> i use it regulary on my desktop PC 18:42 < fly-away> for ac100 18:42 < fly-away> ) 18:42 < ogra_> no 18:42 < fly-away> even with tegra drivers/ 18:43 < ogra_> adobe doesnt provide it for arm linux 18:43 < ogra_> there is android flash you can probably make work with a lot of hackery and deep knowledge 18:43 < ogra_> (and by pulling in half of android into your linux) 18:44 < ogra_> you can try the gnash pligin from the ubuntu archive though 18:44 < ogra_> *plugin 18:44 < ogra_> it seems to work for some people 18:45 ogra_ doesnt use any flash on his ac100 ... never had the need 18:53 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E43481.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:05 <*> Quits ->RanX [~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-60-228.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] [Quit: Get Off My Cloud] 19:05 <*> Quits ->gcst [~stenzel@pD9E4280B.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:22 <*> Quits ->mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BDA2.dip.t-dialin.net] [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:22 < ogra_> marvin24, hmm, i just had my input die on me again and noticed that the caps led doesnt do anything either, is that routed through nvec or do i possibly see a power issue 19:37 < fly-away> hmm 19:37 < fly-away> kexecboot booted unumtu without wifi 19:38 < ogra_> yeah, unumtu doesnt ship wlan drivers :P 19:38 < ogra_> try booting into ubuntu though :) 19:38 < fly-away> )) 20:03 < fly-away> hm 20:04 < fly-away> how can I reflash 6 partition under android? 20:04 < fly-away> /dev/block/mmcblk3p2 dont match size 20:09 < phh> umubuntu ... ? 20:09 < phh> na, unumtu 20:09 < phh> ? 20:10 < ogra_> tumtumtu 20:10 < phh> google doesn't help 20:10 < ogra_> phh, we were just joking about a typo, no worries there arent new distros popping to life ourt of nowhere ;) 20:11 < phh> aaaaaaahhhhhhhh 20:11 < phh> that was a hell of a typo 20:11 < ogra_> heh 20:11 < ogra_> unumtu is ubuntu built out of unoptanium ;) 20:13 < ogra_> whoops ... seems i typoed that 20:13 < ogra_> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium 20:24 < stuw_> fly-away, hexdump -C -n 512 /dev/mmcblk3pX 21:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 21:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:39 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:41 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 22:41 <*> Quits ->]v[etalinjection [4db0d140@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.176.209.64] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:42 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:44 <*> Quits ->leonro [~leonro@bzq-84-109-219-89.red.bezeqint.net] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->jhg [973c3008@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.60.48.8] 23:05 <*> Quits ->jhg [973c3008@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.60.48.8] [Client Quit] 23:28 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:44 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g229045217.adsl.alicedsl.de] --- Day changed Sun Sep 16 2012 00:15 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178141239.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 00:49 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->turbo_ac100 [~turbo@port-92-206-100-184.dynamic.qsc.de] 00:50 <*> Quits ->turbo_ac100 [~turbo@port-92-206-100-184.dynamic.qsc.de] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->turbo_ac100_ [~turbo@port-92-206-100-184.dynamic.qsc.de] 00:50 <*> Quits ->turbo_ac100_ [~turbo@port-92-206-100-184.dynamic.qsc.de] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->turbo_ac100 [~turbo@port-92-206-100-184.dynamic.qsc.de] 00:51 <*> Quits ->turbo_ac100 [~turbo@port-92-206-100-184.dynamic.qsc.de] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->turbo_ac100 [~turbo@port-92-206-100-184.dynamic.qsc.de] 00:51 <*> Quits ->turbo_ac100 [~turbo@port-92-206-100-184.dynamic.qsc.de] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27 <*> Quits ->PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:57 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g229045217.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:59 <*> Quits ->fly-away [~fly@89.169.222.160] [Remote host closed the connection] 03:57 <*> Quits ->zombah [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->cobalt60 [~cobalt60@ip70-177-210-215.hr.hr.cox.net] 05:02 < cobalt60> is Debian harder to install than Ubuntu? 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I just installed Ubuntu 12. Im having some problems connecting to my wireless network; it sees it but tries forever to connect and never succeeds 06:44 <*> Quits ->cobalt60 [~cobalt60@ip70-177-210-215.hr.hr.cox.net] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->cobalt60 [~cobalt60@ip70-177-210-215.hr.hr.cox.net] 07:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] 07:47 < cobalt60> hello? 08:03 <*> Quits ->stuw_ [~stuw@87.255.14.112] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] 09:22 <*> Quits ->Vandroy [~quassel@88-149-149-11.v4.ngi.it] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Vandroy [~quassel@78.134.10.14] 09:48 <*> Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: nashpa, Mifun, cobalt60, gcst_, DaZ 10:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 10:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 10:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-204-128.adsl.inetia.pl] 10:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->nashpa [~nashpa@dliviu.plus.com] 10:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->cobalt60 [~cobalt60@ip70-177-210-215.hr.hr.cox.net] 10:11 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E43481.dip.t-dialin.net] 11:31 < marvin24> ogra_: capslock goes via nvec 11:31 < marvin24> maybe full crash? or does ssh still work? 11:33 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->tilmann [~t@e178139190.adsl.alicedsl.de] 12:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 12:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225166196.adsl.alicedsl.de] 12:46 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225166196.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:05 < ogra_> marvin24, will have to wait til it happens again, when i wrote that i was in berlin without any second machine on the net 13:06 < ogra_> i'm home now and, yay, cosmic rays, it didnt happen yet again (the ac100 ran over night) 13:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->paultrafalgar [~paul@host-78-149-182-145.as13285.net] 13:17 < paultrafalgar> here is Czech video of a guy running android 4.0.4 on ac100 including hdmi output i think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhpbUQwVJxE 13:20 < paultrafalgar> including down below some instructions which if you read czech might be useful 13:22 < paultrafalgar> someone here (forgot who) wanted to run android 4 on ac100 i think 13:23 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->godzila [bc206274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.32.98.116] 13:29 < paultrafalgar> any czechs on board who could translate? 13:30 < |jbrown|> paultrafalgar: you've seen http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/ac100-rom-development/3562-android-4-0-toshiba-ac100-firmware-review-installation-ice-cream-sandvich-4-0-a.html I assume? 13:31 < |jbrown|> I believe it's possible to dual-boot with ubuntu/whatever now -- I might have a go at setting that up on my machine at some point. 13:34 < |jbrown|> google's auto-transcribed captions are... interesting 13:34 < paultrafalgar> jbrown no i hadn't seen that thx for posting it. I wont use android on ac100 want fullfat linux 13:34 < |jbrown|> yeah I'm not the world's biggest android fan tbh. 13:35 < paultrafalgar> to build on linux and then not release source is not good i think 13:36 < paultrafalgar> or is android source available? 13:36 < |jbrown|> ish, it depends 13:37 < |jbrown|> there's at least enough for that 4.0.4 release to be built :-] 13:37 < |jbrown|> I'm not sure how many precompiled binaries it needs to use. 13:39 < paultrafalgar> intel "new processor wont run linux" + microsoft secure boot nono for arm on winders8 amounts to a big attack on linux to be deplored 13:40 < |jbrown|> there's enough machines which can run linux for it to not worry me immensely 13:42 < paultrafalgar> but once hardware is made for winders8 and intel new processors come in the cost of linux capable hardware will rocket 13:42 < |jbrown|> have you got a link about those processors? 13:43 < paultrafalgar> no - google it 13:43 < paultrafalgar> cedar trail wont run linux should get it 13:43 < |jbrown|> looks like a load of rubbish to me 13:44 < |jbrown|> it's not like intel "supported" linux on the *very first* machines which ran linux... 13:45 < |jbrown|> linux kind of does better without interference from commercial entities, imo 13:45 < paultrafalgar> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=112507&p=628771 13:47 < |jbrown|> oh, an Atom-ish thing. Forget it, use an ARM instead :-). 13:47 < paultrafalgar> d'accord ac100 uses 6 watts whoopie 13:48 < paultrafalgar> off-grid what-junkie here 13:49 < paultrafalgar> watt-junkie i mean 13:50 < paultrafalgar> or should that be lowatt junkie 13:55 < paultrafalgar> correction: Clover Trail CPU not cedartrail 14:04 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 14:06 < paultrafalgar> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2205462/idf-intel-says-clover-trail-will-not-work-with-linux 14:26 < |jbrown|> if the hardware's any good, it won't be long before people make it run linux anyway. 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Why r16 kernel set ~370mb free ram? 17:20 < zombah> marvin24: i changed pm mode to lp1 in userspace with /sys/power/suspend/mode, suspend/resume kind of work, but it seems that something wrong lp1 also as power consumption is very high is such suspend 17:20 < bmw_> cmd line same as 3.0.27 17:21 < bmw_> but on 3.0.27 i have 437mb 17:21 < zombah> marvin24: cpu only downclocked only to 216mghz 17:21 < marvin24> bmw_: 3.1 kernel needs mem=512M@0 17:22 < marvin24> zombah: lp1 does not full suspend the cpu 17:22 < marvin24> so the consumptions is high 17:23 < marvin24> zombah: search for lp0 lp1 on google. It describes what it does 17:23 < marvin24> e.g. here: http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=d9c01b3ce93ce4ab3bff842f726a1924ffdef860 17:23 < bmw_> oh thanks! And what can you say about vmalloc and nvmem? 17:23 < marvin24> vmalloc may still nedd 192M, nvmem is not used anymore 17:24 < zombah> marvin24: 17:24 < zombah> LP2 powers down both CPU cores and the GICs, but leaves the core 17:24 < zombah> peripherals, including the memory controller and the legacy 17:24 < zombah> interrupt controller, enabled. 17:24 < bmw_> thanks more and more (: 17:24 < zombah> LP1 is the same as LP2, but in addition turns off the memory 17:24 < zombah> controller and puts the DDR memory in self-refresh. 17:25 < zombah> if im understand right, cpu must be shuted down even in lp1 17:26 <*> Quits ->godzila [bc206274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.32.98.116] [Quit: Page closed] 17:27 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->godzila [bc206274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.32.98.116] 17:30 < marvin24> lp0 shuts down everything except the ec 17:31 < marvin24> waiting for a key press 17:33 < zombah> so 216mghz is ok for lp1? i thought its too high. maybe some excess clock init we have 17:35 < marvin24> zombah: 216 is the lowest clock tegra can run on 17:36 < marvin24> zombah: can you test something like this: http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/commit/312cef53a6ebfbe1f09b8a053fdc726515861d22 on android? 17:36 < marvin24> needs CONFIG_WAKELOCK and CONFIG_FB_EARLYSUSPEND 17:37 < zombah> marvin24: ah i see, its fine then. but as r16 release notes says LP0 broken when we can do? 17:37 < marvin24> broken for harmony 17:38 < marvin24> but harmony isn't really supported anymore 17:38 < zombah> marvin24: thanks gonna try it. sure android kernel have all this stuff. 18:15 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225146237.adsl.alicedsl.de] 18:26 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->stroughtonsmith [~steven@86-42-135-116-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] 18:37 <*> Quits ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:00 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-204-128.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:01 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->karadas [~karadas@net-93-66-105-220.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] 19:02 <*> Quits ->karadas [~karadas@net-93-66-105-220.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] [Client Quit] 19:03 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->gcst__ [~stenzel@pD9E438BE.dip.t-dialin.net] 19:04 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:06 <*> Quits ->gcst_ [~stenzel@pD9E43481.dip.t-dialin.net] [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:17 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@159-205-229-164.adsl.inetia.pl] 19:18 <*> Quits ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 19:24 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] 19:25 < bmw_> marvin24, hmm after boot r16 take 250mb on ram. 3.0.27 ~100mb. 19:27 < Dr_Azrael_Tod> http://liliputing.com/2012/09/zero-devices-z2c-mini-pc-with-dual-core-rockchip-cpu-1gb-ram-8gb-storage.html 19:28 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] 19:30 < bmw_> hmm and r16 kernel + r16 driver i have Error: fragment shader did not compile! 19:31 < marvin24> bmw_: using tegrafb? 19:32 < marvin24> tegrafb consumes a lot of mem, nvidia binary blob save some mem 19:32 < marvin24> and " fragment shader did not compile" is a know issue 19:35 < bmw_> [ 15.313] (II) LoadModule: "tegra" 19:35 < bmw_> [ 15.313] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/tegra_drv.so 19:35 < bmw_> [ 15.430] (II) Loading sub module "fb" 19:35 < bmw_> [ 15.430] (II) LoadModule: "fb" 19:37 < bmw_> i think it's tegra blob 19:37 < bmw_> on 3.0.27 i use r15 19:40 <*> Quits ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] 19:48 < bmw_> marvin24, how can i check this? 19:49 < marvin24> yes, if it isn't unloaded later on 19:54 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->moa5505 [bc3ec304@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.62.195.4] 19:57 < moa5505> hello ! 20:00 < moa5505> just a question I saw some where that there are new drivers for tegra available (but notusable for the moment because of the incompatibility with xorg abi 13 ) 20:01 < moa5505> If Nvidia makes an usable one, what will change for our ac100 ? :) 20:04 <*> Quits ->DaZ [~derp@159-205-229-164.adsl.inetia.pl] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:05 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:05 <*> Quits ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:05 < marvin24> moa5505: you may install ubuntu 12.10 with accelerated X 20:05 < marvin24> (or any other modern distro) 20:06 < marvin24> on the other hand, you can stay on 12.04 with kernel 3.0 and older driver 20:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] 20:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->DaZ [~derp@87-205-169-240.adsl.inetia.pl] 20:12 < moa5505> ok thank you 20:14 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->clopoff [~Miranda@broadband-46-188-7-2.2kom.ru] 20:31 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225146237.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:43 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@g225144038.adsl.alicedsl.de] 20:52 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:57 < bmw_> marvin24, i don't see tegrafb in Xorg.log :| 21:08 <*> Quits ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] [Quit: Leaving] 21:10 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] 21:24 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Read error: No route to host] 21:34 <*> Quits ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] 21:50 < bmw_> marvin24, how i can unload it manually? 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I just installed ubuntu 12. I uninstalled unity and a bunch of other stuff and now I have a crunchbang clone. using conky (a system monitor i HIGHLY recommend), I am unable to display battery time remaining. any suggestions on how to fix? 22:26 <*> Quits ->savalik [~urka@176.99.70.21] [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28 < zombah> cobalt60: probably conky looking for battery time in wrong place, check it settings or strace it 22:30 < marvin24> bmw_: post the complete to xorg.log to some pastebin 22:31 < cobalt60> zombah: thanks. I should have pointed out; I have the battery bar working properly, and the battery time does seem to display when I have the ac adaptor plugged in. Do you know the proper file that it should be directed to? 22:31 < bmw_> marvin24, http://pastebin.com/pNMtCkV6 22:35 < marvin24> bmw_: everythings fine, you are using the tegra binary driver 22:35 < zombah> cobalt60: /sys/class/power_supply/battery all stuff here in different files 22:36 < marvin24> or upower -d 22:37 < bmw_> but why it uses so much memory? 22:41 < cobalt60> zombah: thanks! 23:15 <*> Quits ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] 23:20 <*> Quits ->tilmann [~t@e178139190.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Quit: Leaving.] 23:41 <*> Quits ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] [Read error: No route to host] 23:47 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] 23:55 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] --- Day changed Mon Sep 17 2012 00:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lenios [~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios] 00:02 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->eric_ [47872a5e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.135.42.94] 00:08 <*> Quits ->godzila [bc206274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.32.98.116] [Quit: Page closed] 00:11 <*> Quits ->eric_ [47872a5e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.135.42.94] [Quit: Page closed] 00:39 <*> Quits ->bmw_ [~makc@46.20.177.214] [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw [~makc@46.20.177.214] 01:03 <*> Quits ->clopoff [~Miranda@broadband-46-188-7-2.2kom.ru] [Quit: clopoff] 01:04 <*> Quits ->woglinde [~henning@g225144038.adsl.alicedsl.de] [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:05 < cobalt60> OK so just got Ubuntu installed. 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Can you modprobe fuse on r16-ac100? 17:22 <*> Quits ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:25 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] 17:30 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:30 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] 18:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->e-ndy- [~e-ndy@fantomas.bestit.cz] 18:18 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] 18:19 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:20 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->infinity_ [adconrad@66.79.167.154] 18:22 <*> Quits ->e-ndy [~e-ndy@fantomas.bestit.cz] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:22 <*> Quits ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:22 <*> Quits ->infinity [adconrad@loki.0c3.net] [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@213.222.233.194] 18:37 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Tequila [~tequila@sub.pkg.fr] 18:37 < marvin24> bmw: I think it's not enabled in paz00_defconfig 18:37 < marvin24> what's the problem? 18:38 < bmw> FUSE_FS = m 18:38 < bmw> .ko file exists 18:40 < ogra_> anbd what does dmesg tell you if you load it ? 18:41 < bmw> nothing 18:43 < bmw> no error. No warnings. No fuse in lsmod 18:43 < PaulFertser> bmw: depmod? 18:44 < PaulFertser> bmw: or try insmod'ing that .ko directly 18:44 < ogra_> yeah, i would have suggested the latter too 18:44 < ogra_> to get more output 18:44 < bmw> Did not helped. 18:45 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:45 < PaulFertser> bmw: it can't be the way you describe ;) 18:45 < bmw> i don't know parameters for insmod 18:45 < PaulFertser> bmw: just the filename 18:46 < bmw> Error: could not insert module /lib/modules/3.1.10/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko: Invalid parameters 18:47 < PaulFertser> bmw: now dmesg 18:48 < marvin24> bmw: maybe your modules don't fit to the kernel 18:48 < bmw> Too many MC errors; throttling prints 18:48 < bmw> Only (: 18:49 < bmw> marvin24, no. i copy that manually 18:49 <*> Quits ->gcst__ [stenzel@nat/ibm/x-swcgsgfkffjhljxs] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49 < bmw> and have same thing 18:50 < ogra_> you copy binary modules around ? 18:50 < ogra_> thats asking for trouble :) 18:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] 18:53 < bmw> i copy all modules. I have handmade kernel. (: 18:54 < ogra_> so why didnt you build the modules for it too ? 18:54 < bmw> i build modules too. 18:55 < ogra_> then i dont get what you are doing there 18:55 < ogra_> did you run make modules_install ? 18:56 < bmw> sooo hard read irc with trottled fonts (: 18:57 < bmw> ogra_, yes i did. 18:58 < ogra_> so what exactly are you copying around there then ? 18:59 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] 19:01 < bmw> ogra_, http://pastebin.com/piUNGGAk 19:02 < bmw> and then untar it in / 19:03 < ogra_> and that actually lands in /lib even though you tell it to be in /modules ? 19:04 <*> Quits ->ppisati [~ppisati@2-230-238-136.ip204.fastwebnet.it] [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04 < ogra_> (at least thats how i read your env var mangling) 19:05 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:06 <*> e-ndy- is now known as e-ndy 19:08 < bmw> ogra_, i don't say about /modules 19:08 < ogra_> ah, right, i forgot to scroll. i see you are cd'ing into ../modules then 19:09 < ogra_> before tarring up 19:10 < bmw> yes. i am interesting in it's only my problem with r16 or not. 19:36 <*> infinity_ is now known as infinity 19:50 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->Mifun [~Miranda@95.215.102.18] 20:01 <*> Quits ->wapmorgan [~wapmorgan@213.222.233.194] [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 20:10 < marvin24> bmw: fuse refuses to load because it pretends it is loaded already here 20:13 < bmw> marvin24, ohh. yes i have /dev/fuse. 20:13 < ogra_> does /proc/filesyystems agree ? 20:14 < ogra_> -y 20:15 < bmw> but sshfs error: device notfound 20:16 < bmw> ogra_, filesystems does not contain fuse 20:17 < ogra_> intresting 20:17 < bmw> ja ja 20:21 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->lucky_luchiano [~CLDX@89.169.131.212] 20:29 <*> Quits ->Alex[sp3dev] [d5551202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.85.18.2] [Quit: Page closed] 20:32 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->eric___ [d8e47015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.228.112.21] 20:34 bmw go home \ё/ 20:39 <*> Quits ->bmw [~makc@46.20.191.35] [Quit: Leaving] 20:46 <*> Quits ->mjw [~mark@2001:980:a314:413a:224:81ff:fea0:94b7] [Quit: Leaving] 21:05 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] 21:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF8E27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] 21:16 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@p4FDF8E27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] [Changing host] 21:16 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] 21:22 <*> Quits ->Snark [~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:21f:d0ff:fede:376b] [Quit: Quitte] 21:34 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->woglinde [~henning@f052233135.adsl.alicedsl.de] 22:09 <*> Quits ->jbrown__ [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:12 <*> Joins[#ac100] ->jbrown__ [~jules@78-86-200-147.zone2.bethere.co.uk] 22:46 <*> Quits ->juliank [~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank] [Quit: Verlassend] 22:52 <*> Quits ->afaerber [andreasf_@nat/suse/x-rjbqmoqgsxozllzv] [Quit: Verlassend] 23:09 <*> Quits ->zombah-home [~zombie@194.165.0.6] [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12 < cobalt60> is there a guide on using the nVidia proprietary driver? 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