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21:47 >    mirco| gildean: do you have an idea what I'll have to add to my xorg.conf to get altGR key working?
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22:01      mirco| phh: http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/phh-install.txt -> lid-switch-daemon doesn't seem to support the -d option! For me only -s or -b are working, where -b is the default > backlight off
22:04      mirco| I can't get wlan to work, even ifconfig ra0 down and up doesn't help!
22:04      mirco| what am I forgetting?
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22:06    gildean| <meta name="description" content="Link portal for installing ubuntu on the Toshiba AC100" />
22:06    gildean| oops
22:06    gildean| mirco: you did the echo 1 >
22:07      mirco| no didn't fully remember it! what do I echo where?
22:07    gildean| echo 1 > /proc/test_program/wifi3g
22:08      mirco| thx, and after that you're doing the down and up thing?
22:08    gildean| usually, yes
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22:24 >    mirco| gildean: Do have a hint for AltGr?
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22:33     turbo_| mirco, have you changed it in /l4t/etc/X11/xorg.conf as well?
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22:37      mirco| turbo_: I didn't mention the L4T version
22:37      mirco| what is needed: XkbModel, XkbLayout, XkbOptions or something else?
22:38        phh| model and layout
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22:39      mirco| phh: is it a 105?
22:40 moonlightl| my ac100-10D has 2.2 installed to get back to 2.1 do I need to reinstall all partitions (except 14)?
22:40      mirco| yeap
22:41        phh| mirco: yeah
22:41      mirco| thx
22:49    gildean| moonlightlycos: to be able to use ubuntu, yes
22:50 >    mirco| gildean: how can I connect to a wlan?
22:52      mirco| the menubar plugin doesn't show the local wlan
22:53   woglinde| hidden essid?
22:54      mirco| no? If that would be the case I'ld use the menu option...
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23:15      mirco| Tried to use the "connect to hidden network" menu option: NetworkManager: <warn> (ra0): link timed out.
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23:15   woglinde| yeah
23:15   woglinde| welcome to the unstable wlan driver
23:16      mirco| what can I do?
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23:48   mirco_ac| What would I do without 3G... I can't use Ctrl+C, any advice is very appriciated!!!
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23:49  shurdeek_| hey guys
23:50  shurdeek_| I'm writing this on my ac100 in xchat :-)
23:50     bsousa| did some one got jabber working?
23:51  shurdeek_| I want to get chromium (the browser) running. If I install it from the ubuntu repos, it dies with "Illegal instruction"
23:51  shurdeek_| I tried to compile it, but it always freezes the computer, even if I add swap
23:52  shurdeek_| Is there an easy way to crosscompile it or something?
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23:56   woglinde| shurdeek_ you will need another libqt
23:57   woglinde| shurdeek_ ask ogra tomorrow for an update ppa-repos
23:57   woglinde| dont remember where it is
23:57  shurdeek_| ok
23:57  shurdeek_| any idea why the machine freezes when I try to compile?
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23:58   mirco_ac| woglinde: is there nothing I can do to update the wlan-modul?
23:59   woglinde| mirco_ac hm I dont know if you are cable
23:59   mirco_ac| cable or able?
23:59   woglinde| you could try compat-wirless with rt2x00 git overlay
23:59   mirco_ac| how
23:59   woglinde| but for that you need to configuere a kernel sourcetree with your current running kernel
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00:00   woglinde| and copy some stuff later from compat-wireless
00:00   woglinde| or try load an reload the modul
00:00   woglinde| what kernel you are running now?
00:01   mirco_ac| default
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00:01   mirco_ac| I installed just a hour ago
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00:02   mirco_ac| Linux ac100 2.6.29-arm2-ac100-g4dd097f #45 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 16 12:17:23 CET 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux
00:08 CarolusMag| mirco_ac: Did you try switching the LED on and restarting the network-manager? There is a script at http://hmmm-mhinsch.blogspot.com/2011/02/ubuntu-on-toshiba-ac100.html
00:08 CarolusMag| This has worked for me.
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00:09   woglinde| sigh another crappy blog
00:10   mirco_ac| let's see what it can do for me!
00:13  shurdeek_| any idea how to get mplayer working with hardware acceleration?
00:14   woglinde| shurdeek_ not possible
00:14   woglinde| phh started
00:14   woglinde| but get attracted by other stuff
00:14  shurdeek_| ok
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00:26   mirco_ac| Any Idea why Ctrl-C doesn't work?!?
00:26   woglinde| worked here
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00:30   mirco_ac| what worked where?
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00:42   mirco_ac| woglinde: what did you mean with: worked here?
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00:43   woglinde| crtl+c worked on my ac100
00:43   mirco_ac| OK
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00:44   mirco_ac| but not on mine in gnome-terminal
00:46   mirco_ac| woglinde: thx for double checking: I was the dumpass in front of the screen!!! Changed the settings in gnome-terminal... :-(
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00:55   mirco_ac| CarolusMagnus: The blogentry worked for me, thx a ton!!!
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01:00   woglinde| o.O
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01:08   mirco_ac| anyone a hint how I can add a networkmonitor to the menu?
01:08   woglinde| ?
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01:09   mirco_ac| On my Desktop machine I've got a network-traffic monitor...
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01:33   mirco_ac| is it possible to get two finger scrolling on the touchpad to work?
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01:34    onestep| I double this question
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01:57   mirco_ac| damn it ran aptitude safe-upgrade and now I'm out of space...
01:59        phh| and hum
01:59    onestep| I really enjoy the toolchain of chromium OS
02:00        phh| you thought about installing nilfs-tools ? :D
02:00    onestep| cross-compilation made easy
02:00        phh| shurdeek: mplayer with hardware acceleration is possible but well ...
02:00        phh| onestep: who cares about cross compilation ?
02:01        phh| anyway
02:01        phh| two finger sounds impossible
02:01        phh| I tried to see if we can communicate with touchpad
02:01        phh| but all it says is that it's a mouse with wheel.
02:01        phh| not a synaptics, not a alps, not a whatever the linux kernel knows
02:04   mirco_ac| phh: thx for all your answers... Didn't install the tools till now :-(
02:05   mirco_ac| mplayer would be interesting, but well seems it needs some coding, not my part...
02:06   mirco_ac| I'ld love to use two finger scrolling but well main focus is Web, Mail, SSH and IRC...
02:07   mirco_ac| what can I delete to free some space, before the safe-upgrade I had more than one GB free, and aptitude load only 130MB...
02:08   mirco_ac| /var/cache/apt is already clean...
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02:11        phh| ***install nilfs-tools***
02:11        phh| without it, you can delete everything you want
02:11        phh| you won't free space
02:12   mirco_ac| ahh I remember something I read ... nilfs doesn't really delete deleted stuff... DAMN
02:13   mirco_ac| can I do this on my ubuntu desktop by mounting the SD?
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02:15        phh| yup
02:16   mirco_ac| super, off for it!
02:20      mirco| phh: nilfs_cleanerd freed only 24M's of space
02:20        phh| no
02:20        phh| you have to wait
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02:20        phh| I know it's annoying
02:20        phh| I still haven't found how to set it properly
02:20        phh| but it takes a lot of time to clean it
02:20      mirco| a I see
02:22      mirco| Is nilfs_cleanerd autostarting after install?
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02:35      mirco| Do I have to start nifs_cleanerd
02:36      mirco| ?!?
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10:48     macau_| hi all!
10:48     macau_| any one can help me with adb and arch host?
10:49   woglinde| what?
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10:51     macau_| cant connet to device via adb
10:51     macau_| usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
10:51     macau_| scsi6 : usb-storage 1-2:1.0
10:51     macau_| scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TOSHIBA  AC_AND_AZ        0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
10:51     macau_| sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
10:51     macau_| sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
10:52     macau_| but other android devices work fine
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10:54   Da_Blitz| did you enable debugging mode in the settings menu?
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11:23   mirco_ac| ubuntu looks quite useful to me, got WLAN & 3G working, standby seems to work too... Brightness keys would be very much appreciated! And sound and video with HDMI would be nice to have!
11:32   mirco_ac| If OpenVPN works as expected  I'ld like to install to the internal MMC...
11:32   woglinde| ?
11:32   woglinde| why should openvpn not work
11:33   mirco_ac| I can't see why not
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11:55 >    arune| gildean: can you update http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/ that the final setup includes instructions on installing nilfs-tools and reboot after that?
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12:14      arune| I'm also very satisfied with my ubuntu-setup on ac100
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12:23      arune| thanks a lot, everybody who was involved in the work go get here
12:26    Eruquen| a friend of mine got an ac100 with android 2.2 on it - is there an easy way to get back to 2.1? he seems to have problems installing ubuntu (possibly due to android 2.2?)
12:27   woglinde| Eruquen hm depends
12:27   woglinde| he needs to flashback most of partitions
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12:28    Eruquen| hm, thought so.. damn
12:28   woglinde| or waiting
12:29   woglinde| until the .36 support and u-boot is finished
12:29    Eruquen| I guess I'll give him a backup of my partitions
12:30   woglinde| read the wiki about
12:30   woglinde| some of the first partitions
12:30   woglinde| needs rawwrite instead of download
12:30    Eruquen| something else: my ac100 has a sticker on it that advertises a LED which is supposed to signal a new mail in android. where is it? :D
12:30    Eruquen| oh
12:31    Eruquen| thanks, I'll do that
12:31      arune| when I downgraded from 2.2 to 2.1 i just flashed part 2,4 and 5 than ran the restore (HOME + power)
12:31      arune| if I remember correctly
12:32    Eruquen| how long did it take?
12:33   woglinde| flashing dont takes long
12:33   woglinde| 5 minutes for all
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12:41       polg| Hello everyone. I bought a second hand AC100. It has already been updated to Android 2.2. I'd like to install Ubuntu. It will be easy to downgrade to Android 2.1? It will be enough to make possible the installation?
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12:41   woglinde| polg -> 11:30 < arune> when I downgraded from 2.2 to 2.1 i just flashed part 2,4 and 5 than ran the restore (HOME + power)
12:43       polg| Where I can get the 2.1 partition images?
12:43   woglinde| search with google
12:43   woglinde| or wait for someone will posting links for it
12:45       polg| I'll have a look on Google. Thank You
12:45   mirco_ac| polg check the channel logs someone posted a link to an torrent, I used it to downgrade my 10V model and am now writing from xchat on my ac100
12:47       polg| I'll try. It is the first time I use an IRC channel...
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13:00   woglinde| polg welcome ;)
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13:26       polg| I'm not able to see the page "http://husson.hd.free.fr/ac100logs.cgi" (I'm looking for the IRC logs). Someone could test it? Tahnk You.
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13:32    Eruquen| http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1757382/temp/%5Brutracker.org%5D.t3445760.torrent <- I think this might be the torrent you are looking for
13:33    Eruquen| it's for ac100-10d afaik but it seems to work for the 10V, too
13:36      arune| polg: which model do you have?
13:37       polg| Thank you, I've a 10d. I leave the chat: i've to mange a bit with the network to use a torrent :-)
13:38    Eruquen| I wonder if those backups might work for the 10K
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14:03   Linculte| Hi.
14:09      arune| Eruquen: probably for ubuntu, maybe not for dualbooting
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14:56      arune| hm, how do I change backlight without sudo? executing light_05 as user does not work, right?
14:57      arune| setuid? granting access in sudoers file?
14:58       ogra| write a proper dbus backend file for gnome-power-manager ;)
15:04      arune| yes, that would be the correct way :)
15:05      arune| where does light_05 come from?
15:06         * | ogra cant remember anymore who initially wrote it 
15:07       ogra| i dont use it here ..
15:12    Eruquen| http://pastebin.com/Seq9xhBW is this to be expected when backing up partition 14?
15:13      arune| Eruquen: Ive read somewherer that errors on backup for part 14 is expected
15:13       ogra| nvflash bug
15:14    Eruquen| hm, okay
15:14      arune| ogra: google found something: http://jigoku.muromec.org.ua:31580/ac100/ :)
15:14        phh| ogra: of course you don't use it, you can't use it.
15:15        phh| for backlight, get http://www.enst.fr/~husson/backlight.tar
15:15        phh| put those files in /usr/bin
15:15        phh| and edit sudoers properly
15:17      arune| phh: thanks, can you give me a hint on how what to add in sudoers?
15:18        phh| learn french ! :D
15:18        phh| (i posted it in some french forum)
15:18      arune| hehe
15:19        phh| which is dead. or my connect is dead
15:19        phh| mmmm
15:21        phh| sounds like second one.
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15:22        phh| arune: light_06 ? oO
15:23      arune| phh: what about it?
15:23        phh| last one i've got is _05 :p
15:23        phh| anyway
15:23        phh| arune: at the end of /etc/sudoers
15:23        phh| add
15:23        phh| %admin ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/increase_backlight, /usr/bin/decrease_backlight
15:24      arune| yes, I guess muromec knows the difference to _06
15:24        phh| then you'll be able to do sudo increase_backlight
15:24        phh| without password.
15:24      arune| thanks phh!
15:24        phh| and you can put sudo increase_backlight/sudo decrease_backlight
15:24      mirco| phh: nilfs is a pain in the ass... I resized from 4 to 6GB's and am again stuck with a full SD!
15:24        phh| as a shortcut from home+backlight decrease
15:24      mirco| Isn't there an alternative?!?
15:25        phh| mirco: tar c/tar x is the best way to resize a FS imho :D
15:25        phh| (when i've got the choice)
15:25      mirco| That's what I did last night to come from 4 to 6GB ...
15:26        phh| anyway, on .29 there is no better FS available.
15:26        phh| well, ogra says he is happy with ext4
15:26        phh| but no TRIM
15:27      mirco| And I can't just upgrade the kernel?
15:27        phh| lol.
15:28   Da_Blitz| oh hey, 2.6.38 is out
15:29      mirco| for TRIM we would need .33
15:29      mirco| http://cptl.org/wp/index.php/2010/03/30/tuning-solid-state-drives-in-linux/
15:29        phh| my nilfs2 port has trim
15:29   Da_Blitz| TRIM support for emmc and sd was onl just recently added
15:30   Da_Blitz| .37 if memory serves me corectly
15:30        phh| mmmm
15:30        phh| nvidia's .36 has it at least
15:31      mirco| phh: OK, but cleanerd isn't doing what he's supposed to do!
15:31        phh| mirco: it is ..
15:31   Da_Blitz| you could try listing the old snapshots
15:32      mirco| old snapshot's of what, nilfs-tools?
15:33   Da_Blitz| the nilfs snapshots
15:33   Da_Blitz| nls iirc
15:33        phh| nls ?
15:33        phh| lscp
15:33        phh| lscp |grep ss
15:35   woglinde| hi phh
15:35        phh| hi woglinde
15:38      mirco| what FS would you use to install on the internal?
15:39   woglinde| vfat16
15:39        phh| --'
15:39        phh| -_-'*
15:39   Da_Blitz| heheh
15:39      mirco| he he he
15:39        phh| everyone here is happy with nilfs2 ...
15:39      mirco| Nice one 8-)
15:39   woglinde| he camera are using it too
15:39         * | ogra isnt :P
15:40      mirco| ogra: I like ext4 too, any issues for you so far?
15:40       ogra| no, i only use it for home though
15:40      mirco| phh: how is your cleanerd configured?
15:40        phh| mirco: default setting ?
15:40         * | ogra curses natty
15:40        phh| I once tried to set it otherwise, but it just stopped cleaning -_-'
15:41      mirco| ogra: and rootfs? and how did you mount home: /etc/fstab or /L4T/etc/fstab?
15:41       ogra| my images dont use L4T or any other modifications
15:41       ogra| so yes, fstab
15:41      mirco| phh: seems this is what happened to me!
15:41        phh| lol
15:41        phh| don't worry it's /etc/fstab for me too
15:42      mirco| phh: I wasn't shure because I found the second version in /L4T ...
15:42        phh| yeah one day I'll clean it up ... I swear mom.
15:43       ogra| phh, when i provide a natty image and you add your stuff to it seems like a good time ;)
15:43      mirco| he he ;-)
15:43        phh| ogra: sounds highly unlikely :D
15:43      mirco| Oh that sounds great!
15:44       ogra| but first i need to track down that libc bug
15:45        phh| do a big grep mcr -r . |grep r15
15:45        phh| if you've got matches, tell the devs to use kernel's get_tls/set_tls.
15:45       ogra| well, first i have to identify the actual version it breaks on
15:46       ogra| currently i'm working on a chroot that i upgrade in pieces, once i found the version i have to find the commit ... then i can hand it to linaro
15:46      mirco| is there an alternative for this internal setup howto? http://ac100.gudinna.com/internal/ac100-10V-8GB/README
15:46   woglinde| o.O
15:47       ogra| they expect some info first
15:49      mirco| I'm going to setup on the internal eMMC during the next days, so any hint would be very much appreciated...
15:50        phh| mirco: with my version, you just need to use <some down link ATM> without any modification
15:50      mirco| phh: some what?
15:50        phh| well it's http://husson.hd.free.fr/plop.img
15:50        phh| but it's down
15:51      mirco| I already flashed this own last night!
15:51      mirco| so if I install to the internal it looks on SD and eMMC for a bootable part?
15:51        phh| well, then justextract it to internal
15:51        phh| yes
15:52      mirco| or rsync it from a backup I made from the SD on my desktop...
15:52        phh| yeah
15:52      mirco| would you use nilfs on the internal too?
15:52        phh| I do use nilfs2 on internal
15:53        phh| you can use ext3 if you want, but you'll comlain it's slow ...
15:53      mirco| hmm, I'll see how it work's I've just restored the dist nifls_cleanerd.conf and it's booting...
15:53      mirco| OK, thx for the info!
15:53        phh| ogra: the chromium-browser 10 in maverick-security
15:54        phh| does it happen to have webgl ?
15:54   steelrat| Hi everybody! Another day, another question... Is there any way to get an external bluetooth usb dongle working under Android 2.2?
15:54      mirco| where can I get those backlight_dimm tools you mentioned a few mins ago?
15:54      mirco| steelrat: shure plugin!
15:55   steelrat| mirco: No! It won'nt work on my ac100-10v! :( It's a Gembird BTD-MINI2... Grrrrmphhh...
15:56       ogra| phh, not in maverick i think
15:56      mirco| phh: any idea why it's booting so damn slow, this was not the case before I ran safe-upgrade last night!
15:56       ogra| you will need the natty version
15:56        phh| mirco: no clue
15:56        phh| phh@phh-laptop:~$ chromium-browser
15:56        phh| Illegal instruction
15:56        phh| phh@phh-laptop:~$
15:56        phh| yay
15:57      mirco| phh this is what I saw two hours ago too!
15:57       ogra| phh, weird, i talked to our chromium maintainer yesterday
15:57        phh| mirco: all Illegal instruction errors should go to ogra :p
15:57        phh| I mean if it's an ubuntu package
15:57   woglinde| *g*
15:58      mirco| steelrat: then have a look in the log's ... expecting you've already routed yours...
15:58       ogra| well, i will just point you to the devs :P
15:58      mirco| he he... just wanted to tell that I got the same behavior..
15:59       ogra| can you install the former version ?
15:59   steelrat| mirco: nope, not rooted until now...
15:59       ogra| i would have said it uses NEON but he showed me the buildlog which indicates NEON was off
15:59       ogra| http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66221823/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.chromium-browser_10.0.648.133~r77742-0ubuntu0.10.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
16:00      mirco| steelrat: then you could consider doing so, but it would only show you the log, but won't help setting the stick up!
16:00      mirco| All I know is that my 2.2 had the bluetoothd running
16:01   steelrat| mirco: maybe it is because of the 10v not having any bluetooth built in?
16:01       ogra| arm_thumb=1 arm_neon=0 target_arch=arm disable_nacl=1 linux_use_tcmalloc=0  armv7=1
16:01         * | ogra doesnt see anything wrong with that
16:01      mirco| I've got a 10V too!
16:01   woglinde| all ac100 runs bluetoothd
16:01   woglinde| the gsm ones for bt usb dongles
16:02         * | ogra is just listening to music with his bluetooth headset on a 10V
16:02       ogra| (using a dongle)
16:02      mirco| ogra: ubuntu or andro?
16:02       ogra| mirco, ubuntu indeed, i wont touch crappy android on a netbook :)
16:03      mirco| he he... Sorry!
16:03   steelrat| mirco: okay will try the rooting and take a look at the logs... maybe the dongle hardware is not supported? but it is bt 2.1+edr
16:03       ogra| i love android on a phone ... but having to use it on a netbook makes me as agressive as win95 did :P
16:04      mirco| that's exactly what I experienced... ;-)
16:05      mirco| where does nilfs store it's snapshot's?
16:05   steelrat| ogra: that's true! But i'll wait with the ubuntu install until it works under 2.2...
16:05      mirco| not even the cleanerd on my desktop is cleaning my 6GB SD
16:06       ogra| steelrat, that can take time ...
16:06        phh| mirco: everything in nilfs is snapshot !
16:06        phh| well checkpoint
16:06        phh| it's a journalized filesystem
16:06        phh| a real one
16:07      mirco| what can I do if there's only 8MB's left
16:08       ogra| apt-get clean is a good start
16:08        phh| ogra: that's not the problem -_-'
16:08        phh| mirco: cleanerd is started ?
16:08      mirco| this is always the first location I check... 8-)
16:08        phh| check with iotop if it does something
16:09       ogra| phh, not the problem, but might gain you some headspace ;)
16:12      mirco| but it isn't started... I start it manually but it doesn't stay in background...
16:13        phh| oO
16:16      mirco| damn: prob in front of PC... didn't use sudo: nilfs_ioctl_move_inode_block: conflicting node buffer: ino=110557, cno=183, offset=0, blocknr=8044, vblocknr=584825
16:17        phh| what kerenel on the pc ?
16:18      mirco| Linux ubuntu-desktop 2.6.32-29-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 11 20:52:10 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
16:19        phh| yeah
16:19        phh| I had many problems on .32
16:19      mirco| hmm...
16:20        phh| (nilfs2 isn't a stable FS.)
16:20        phh| (I mean stable as in on-disk data)
16:26      mirco| how about sqashfs wouldn't this be an alternative?
16:28       ogra| no
16:28      mirco| unionfs?
16:28       ogra| you would need unionfs to use squashfs
16:29      mirco| ogra: not that firm with those...
16:29       ogra| or aufs
16:29      mirco| Ok
16:29       ogra| squashfs provides a readonly image
16:29       ogra| to make that writable you need to add writeable space with aufs or unionfs
16:30      mirco| that's what I know about it... and that's it...
16:30       ogra| since your squashfs always stays the same your FS usage grows all the time, updates and everything you save go into the writable space
16:30      mirco| I'm just thinking loud because I feel pissed by using nilfs which kicked me more than once in only 24h
16:30       ogra| while the parts in squashfs dont get overwritten
16:31       ogra| squashfs/aufs is a helpful combo if you never install anything and dont upgrade
16:31      mirco| I know it from kanotix an other live images....
16:32       ogra| the real flash filesystem of the future is btrfs ... sadly far from being stable on a 2.6.29 kernel
16:32      mirco| and there's no chance to upgrade the kernel as long as we don't have the sources from toshiba... right?
16:33       ogra| there is an experimental 2.6.36 kernel
16:33       ogra| but i dont think its ready for day to day use
16:33      mirco| An Toshiba as the builder of fukushima currently has other probs then sending CD's ...
16:33       ogra| surely
16:33       ogra| they are not running it though
16:34      mirco| lukely, for them... but they built the reactor's!!!
16:34       ogra| you cant blame VW for the broken brakes on your car if the mechanic next door screwed them up
16:35      mirco| That's not what I was saying, it was more of there's lot's of trouble down in japan... they have enough other thing's to do!
16:35       ogra| definitely
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16:35      gipIt| hello
16:36      mirco| hey ho
16:36      gipIt| some new abaout Android 2.2, new bootloader and Ubuntu???
16:36       ogra| no
16:37      gipIt| :(
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16:50      mirco| I'm afraid I've to resize my SD on a regular basis...
16:51      mirco| sudo du -h /mnt/sd -> 2,2G    /mnt/sd/
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16:57        phh| ogra: it will have opengles support ?
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16:59      ogra_| phh, yes, but wont use anything of it (thus -2d)
17:00        phh| i meant for unity-non2d :p
17:00      ogra_| depends on compiz ... they are working on gles but its not clear if it will make the release
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17:07      ogra_| ah, thats better
17:08      mirco| better than ?
17:08     bambee| I used this wiki http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/ to install phh's lastest image, it works perfectly on usb stick but not for internal ssd (/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off) ... I already repacked the boot.img with correct arguments (ac100-114-16G)
17:08     bambee| suggestions ?
17:08      ogra_| mirco, the version before
17:08      mirco| K
17:09        phh| bambee: don't do that ?
17:09      mirco| bambee: check the channel logs and use plop.img
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17:09        phh| you're not supposed to repack anything
17:09        phh| mirco: the logs that are dead ? :D
17:10      mirco| hmm ..... ........ yeap
17:10     bambee| ah good to know (sorry but I'm a bit confused)
17:10      mirco| http://share1t.com/mkldor
17:10     bambee| mirco: http://husson.hd.free.fr/plop.img ?
17:10     bambee| (I suppose)
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17:11      mirco| which is down... or was it yesterday... phh: up or down today?
17:11        phh| today it's down :p
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17:11     bambee| aarrf
17:11      mirco| anyway the first link was uploaded yesterday is unmodified and worked for me last night
17:12        phh| ogra_: get a proper irc client ?
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17:12      ogra_| phh, irc client is fine ...
17:12        phh| ogra_: no
17:12        phh| proper clients throttle
17:12      ogra_| sure it is
17:12        phh| (unless the problem is your connection)
17:12      mirco| is it your desktop switching test, or wat?
17:13      ogra_| i was fiddling with the settings
17:13      ogra_| and apparently the Qt apps dont pick up gconf changes without restart
17:15      ogra_| now all bits seem to behave as they should :)
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17:25      mirco| my ac100 doesn't boot with only 8MB's free! I'm going to tar cfdisk untar for one last time right now!!!
17:28     bambee| mirco: plop.img it does not work too
17:28     bambee| s/it//
17:28      mirco| I flashed mine to part6 and you?
17:28     bambee| part5
17:29      mirco| give part6 a try!
17:30     bambee| mirco: it will destroy android.. nop ?
17:30      mirco| Oh yes it make's android unreachable...
17:30      mirco| you should better get a backup before you do so!
17:31     bambee| ok
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17:45      mirco| after just tar / untar I've now 3,1GB free... Could someone pls describe what nilfs does with my SD...
17:47    gildean| mirco: with nilfs, no data is overwritten
17:47    muromec| nvec sucks
17:48 >    mirco| gildean: OK, isn't there an alternative?
17:48      ogra_| it does ;)
17:48         * | muromec getting reponse 01 02 00 05  for ac request
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17:48    gildean| mirco: yes, you can use at least ext2 and ext3
17:48    gildean| and i think ext4 too
17:49      mirco| OK, phh told me those will be very slow...
17:49    muromec| 05 is "NvEcStatus_InvalidSize"
17:49    muromec| wtf?
17:49         * | muromec sending 02 01 00
17:50    gildean| mirco: compared to nilfs2, they are slower
17:51    gildean| noticeably
17:51    muromec| phh, should \x00 be escaped somehow?
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17:51 >    mirco| gildean: any info in % ?
17:51    gildean| no
17:52    gildean| but in my experience, using ext3 was bit too slow to be comfortable
17:52    gildean| but that was on a class 6 sd-card
17:52      mirco| That's enough... so you're on nilfs too?
17:52    gildean| yes
17:53      mirco| and on internal?
17:53    gildean| no
17:53    gildean| on sd
17:53      mirco| I'll give ext4 on eMMC a shot in some sec's
17:54    gildean| i like testing out different things, so i have multiple sd-cards
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17:54    gildean| mirco: you should ask phh if his image has support for ext4
17:54      mirco| he said something like this... what img are U running on?
17:59        phh| I might have ext4 support, but .29's ext4;
18:00      ogra_| not as bad as one might think though
18:00        phh| muromec: why would \x00 have to be escaped ?
18:00        phh| muromec: you're doing a battery driver ?
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18:01    gildean| i think the only time i've tested ext4 was in my ubuntu server with .32 kernel
18:01    gildean| seemed ok
18:01 >      phh| gildean: on a emmc ?
18:02    gildean| phh: lol, no
18:03        phh| muromec: 02 01 01 works ?
18:03        phh| iirc i tried it and it worked fine
18:03    muromec| what is 01 01 ?
18:03        phh| get voltage
18:03        phh| wait
18:04        phh| when you sadi you send 02 01 00
18:04        phh| the 02 is the size o rnot ,
18:04    muromec| yep, 02 is size
18:04        phh| ok
18:04        phh| yeah then your command should work
18:05    muromec| but ec responds with 01 02 00 05
18:05    muromec| where 05 is error code
18:05    muromec| 02 01 00 is "get system status"
18:05    muromec| as 01 is system and 00 is get status
18:05        phh| oO
18:05        phh| whatg
18:06        phh| i misread it again or what.
18:06    muromec| errr
18:06        phh| ah, starts at 1
18:06        phh| not 0.
18:07        phh| yeah well, original code calls get system status without any payload too
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18:09        phh| don't know  hen
18:09      mirco| after sudo mkfs.nilfs2 -L root /dev/mmcblk0p6 I can't mount:  mount: /dev/mmcblk0p6: can't read superblock
18:09        phh| mirco: mount -t nilfs2
18:09    muromec| damn
18:10      mirco| why that, on ubuntu-desktop it didn't care....
18:10        phh| dont' know why
18:13    muromec| phh, ah nice
18:13        phh| muromec: what ?
18:13    muromec| when i`m flooding ec with such request it finally responds with "01 06 00 00 01 00 00 00"
18:13        phh| lolwat
18:13    muromec| yeah, really
18:14    muromec| something from in mfd driver again
18:14    muromec| *wrong
18:14        phh| ah.
18:14     bambee| ohh damn... I totally forgot that but few days ago I accidently format the whole SSD (via usb-sharing) instead of the single partition... o_O
18:14        phh| usb-sharing doesn't format whole SSD ...
18:15        phh| I mean usb-sharing gives access to only one partition
18:15      mirco| mmcblk0p6
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18:18    gildean| or p10 or p14
18:18      mirco| ssh root@desktop "cat /ac100-bak/rootfs.tar" tar xvf - --numeric-owner -C /mnt/mmc -> rocks but on a damn slow way!!
18:18    gildean| however you want to look at it
18:18     bambee| so I formated only the first partition in this case... I probably forgot something
18:18 >    mirco| gildean: where can one choose which is served, Andro??
18:18    gildean| yes
18:19      mirco| ogra: which part do U use for /home?
18:19    gildean| bambee: if you did it by enabling usb sharing from android, you only formatted the /storage partition (p14)
18:20 >   bambee| gildean: ok
18:20      ogra_| mirco, an SD card :)
18:20    gildean| ogra_: you use the sd-card also as swap?
18:21      ogra_| yes
18:21      ogra_| but with swappiness set to zero so it only prevents OOM
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18:22      mirco| and it's mounted via the usual line: "/dev/mmcblk1pX /home           ext4    relatime                      0       2"
18:22    gildean| also cheaper to burn the sd cards than the internal drive
18:22      ogra_| mirco, right
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18:22      mirco| and how do you set the swappines, never heard of that before?
18:23      ogra_| in /etc/sysctl.d/ there is a file i put in place on my image
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18:23      ogra_|  /etc/sysctl.d/30-root-on-sd.conf
18:23      ogra_| that one
18:23      ogra_| it should default to 0 already
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18:24      mirco| ogra: it's the same in phh img... THX
18:25      ogra_| yeah, i thought so, he based on my image afaik
18:25      mirco| K
18:25      mirco| can  you tell the differences between his an yours?
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18:26      ogra_| L4T different kernel config, lots of kernel patches
18:27 >   bambee| gildean: I put everything on part14 (as explained on the wiki) ... I uploaded boot.img to part5 , then I cannot boot via SSD.. (it works perfectly via usb but it's slower)
18:27      ogra_| mine is a plain ubuntu image with the above file, an xorg.conf and xserver-xorg-input-kbd added ... additionally a diversion for pulseaudio
18:27      ogra_| my kernel is the plain toshiba source wiht an ubuntuized config
18:27      ogra_| and i use an original ralink driver
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18:27      mirco| OK
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18:28      mirco| and what would you say is the future path? Seeing the 2.2 sources CD arriving during the next days...
18:28      ogra_| i will provide a natty image with similar setup once the linaro guys fixed libc :P
18:29      ogra_| mirco, i think the future path is muromec_'s and marvin24's work on 2.6.36
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18:30      ogra_| ramana, see the topic, on gudinna.com you should find the different images and install instructions
18:30        phh| "original ralink driver" means not the on eprovided by toshiba, but one that is no longer available anywhere.
18:30    muromec| phh, pushed power driver
18:30      mirco| thx a ton for that ovwerview, and yes .36 sounds great. Is there an option to see their progress?
18:30      ogra_| phh, it is available at ralink
18:30        phh| ogra_: i've been told it no longer is
18:30    muromec| ah, forgot to update defconfig
18:31    gildean| the newer kernel sources should still provide some help, no?
18:31      ogra_| phh, why should they pull it off ? many distros use it
18:31 >    ogra_| gildean, for sure
18:31        phh| ogra_: that exact version ?
18:31        phh| i doubt it.
18:31      ogra_| no, a newer one
18:31      ogra_| they update it regulary
18:32     ramana| ogra_: Thanks.
18:33    muromec| now cat /sys/class/power_supply/ac/online triggers send of 02 01 00 and printks the answer
18:33     bambee| ogra_: what do you mean by "a diversion for pulseaudio" ? you directly use alsa ?
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18:34   traznaie| hi
18:34      ogra_| bambee, there is no working sound in the plain kernel
18:34      ogra_| bambee, for that you need to use phh's image
18:34        phh| yeah
18:34        phh| no.
18:35   traznaie| phh: hi
18:35      ogra_| no ?
18:35        phh| muromec: and gives back the result to console I hope ? :D
18:35      ogra_| no what ?
18:35        phh| ogra_: soud is so unstable that i'd rather say it doesn't work
18:35      ogra_| ah
18:35    muromec| phh, nope
18:35      ogra_| k
18:35    muromec| phh, just to printk()
18:36        phh| ogra_: I hope it will be stable on .32 ...
18:36   traznaie| phh: is there a boot image that when you use it , you can actually see the boot process, the one I'm using just displays 2 rats :)
18:36        phh| anyway i'll have to write a codec driver for .36 but that's another sotrry
18:36        phh| story*
18:36      ogra_| traznaie, just use /var/log/dmesg after boot ;)
18:37   traznaie| ogra_: yes, but it hangs..
18:37   traznaie| ogra_: can't dmesg
18:38     bambee| ogra_: ok, however your kernel seems more stable
18:38      ogra_| b ut has a lot less features
18:39      ogra_| or a lot more ... depends how you put it ;)
18:40      ogra_| (my kernel has everything thats buildable as a module enabled ... but is lacking all the good additional patches)
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18:42      mirco| and how realistic is gles?
18:44        phh| it's already working
18:44        phh| ogra_: my kernel has everytihng buildable as module as well ...
18:44      mirco| Wow
18:45      ogra_| phh, why doesnt lsusb not work then ... there are surely differences in our configs
18:45        phh| still lacking some usual stuff like timer tracing though
18:45      mirco| phh: so I could use netbook-3D in your image?
18:45        phh| ogra_: console kit doesn't like x in a chroot
18:45        phh| mirco: netbook-3D uses gles ?
18:45      ogra_| no, it doesnt
18:45      mirco| not shure, just asking... :-(
18:46      mirco| expected it to do so, as it's 3D...
18:46      ogra_| only GL
18:46      ogra_| no GLES
18:46      ogra_| unity GLES support is being worked on by linaro but its not sure yet it will make release
18:47        phh| mirco: but opengles compositing works
18:47        phh| just need to find a stable compositor.
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18:48        phh| kwin almost works. like opacity works, one window alt-tab works (really useful ! :D)
18:48      mirco| OK but what can I use it for, if not nice effect's or HD-Video?
18:48        phh| quake3 or tuxracer.
18:48        phh| wtf is the link with hd video ?
18:48      ogra_| HD video has nothing to do with GLES
18:49         * | woglinde confuses gles and video often too
18:49        phh| how could you confuse those ? oO
18:49      mirco| nothing I'm just trying to understand...
18:49        phh| it's like confusing svg and jpg ...
18:49      mirco| phh: thx that's a real good example!
18:50        phh| (we can embed hd videos in gles though.)
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19:06   woglinde| re muromec
19:06      ogra_| and there we go ... new unity-2d uploaded to natty :)
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19:07   woglinde| with wayland?
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19:08      ogra_| lol
19:08      ogra_| 2D
19:08      ogra_| not 3D :P
19:08    gildean| so qt?
19:08      ogra_| yep
19:08      ogra_| and super snappy on framebuffer
19:09      mirco| that's cool, how can one test this release?
19:10      ogra_| you would need to upgrade to natty, but thats very tricky due to breakage of libc
19:10     pm215_| libc> is that the TLS reg thing?
19:10      mirco| OK, so I'll better wait till libc is fixed...
19:10      ogra_| pm215_, yep
19:10     pm215_| is there a plan for fixing that?
19:10      ogra_| mirco, well, you can pin it in apt preferences
19:11      ogra_| pm215_, i havent filed a bug yet, but i plan to
19:11      mirco| ahh done this in times of woody...
19:11     pm215_| not sure the android "munge in kernel and libc" approach will work if we want to be able to run random binaries that might have inline TLS accesses
19:11      ogra_| pm215_, though it looks to me as if it needs fixes on two sides http://gitorious.org/ac100/kernel/commit/227af643e6253e9a5c2a2f74468f855686c44117?diffmode=sidebyside
19:12        phh| ogra_: what would be the fix on kernel side ... ?
19:12      ogra_| looks like
19:12        phh| kernel has working implementations of get_tls/set_tls
19:12        phh| well according to the commit message :p
19:12      ogra_| well, not our kernel atm
19:12        phh| .29 doesn't have that patch in ?
19:13     pm215_| unfortunately if you compile with 'gcc -O2 -mcpu=cortex-a9' it will happily inline 'mrc     p15, 0, r2, c13, c0, 3  @ load_tp_hard' for __thread variables
19:13      ogra_| is that the .29 tree ?
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19:13        phh| pm215_: aoutch
19:14      ogra_| pm215_, i dont think we use -a9 options anywhere in ubuntu atm
19:14        phh| i think a8 wuold do the same -_-'
19:14      ogra_| default should still be cortex-a8
19:14      ogra_| ah k
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19:19     pm215_| does anybody have the actual erratum text ?
19:25   woglinde| erratum?
19:25   woglinde| didnt know toshiba released something
19:30     pm215_| the kernel patch ogra linked to has an official erratum number (657451) so there must be a proper description of it. I don't know whether nvidia (or whoever) have released it, though.
19:30         * | stenzel__ tunnetaan nyt nimimerkillä stenzel
19:30   woglinde| ;)
19:32      ogra_| http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=android/platform/bionic.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=ccdb5c27b7c5e165aada6fdbbe398f2cc1c58bca
19:32      ogra_| gary king seems to be the author
19:32      ogra_| not sure if you will find anything more official than that
19:33      ogra_| (probably mail him for more informative stuff)
19:38   steelrat| mirco: about my bluetooth problem: what information from the logs do i need to identify my problem? Thank you...
19:39      mirco| grep for usb related msd's
19:39      mirco| msg's ... sorry
19:55      mirco| I'm off for today! ssh is to damn slow,have to leave all my machine's in the office...
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20:33  motorello| hello everybody
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20:49     bsousa| Hi all !
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22:29         * | muromec full of rage
22:33        phh| why ?
22:34         * | marvin24_DT thinks muromec fights with the ec
22:34    muromec| marvin24, HOW DID YOU KNOW????
22:35 marvin24_D| it can be even heard in germany (maybe to until france yet)
22:35    muromec| damn
22:35      ogra_| oh, that was this noise ?
22:35         * | ogra_ was wondering ...
22:35    muromec| dont mistake me with that earthquake
22:36         * | ogra_ goes to try getting the cat back from under the sofa 
22:36    muromec| it was phh who caster that disaster
22:36    muromec| *casted
22:36      ogra_| haha
22:36        phh| ah.
22:38         * | muromec cant figure out, is it ec problem or just myself stupidy
22:38      ogra_| blame toshiba
22:39 marvin24_D| muromec: what are you working on?
22:39 marvin24_D| power again?
22:39    muromec| yeah
22:39 marvin24_D| or cleanup?
22:39 marvin24_D| ok
22:39    muromec| i`m working on power, but this looks like problem in mfd driver
22:39    muromec| ... or ec bug
22:40 marvin24_D| I wish we had some firmware files
22:40    muromec| be free to steal one
22:40 marvin24_D| (of course, someone could try to read out the ec ram)
22:40        phh| muromec: there is nothing that looks like a workaround in nvidia's driver at least
22:41    muromec| phh, that crap responds correctly when i`m flooding it
22:41        phh| muromec: yes and ?
22:41    muromec| looks like race condition or timeots somewhere
22:41    muromec| *outs
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22:42        phh| i've had so much trouble getting a driver to work, that I'm pretty sure the problem is in our driver.
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22:48 marvin24_D| if the backlight is "whistler like", we need to backport the whole dc code (or switch to some other tree)
22:48        phh| ?
22:49 marvin24_D| harmony has some backlight code (but no driver?)
22:49 marvin24_D| which is different to whistler
22:49 marvin24_D| (latter uses some dc stuff)
22:49 marvin24_D| harmony uses ...?
22:51 marvin24_D| I wish we knew which interface the nvidia userspace graphics driver will target
22:51         * | marvin24_DT just found video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
22:51        phh| you know there is tegra driver in video/backlight ?
22:52 marvin24_D| yes, this is the whistler style type
22:53 marvin24_D| while pwm_bl is harmony style
22:53        phh| wut ?
22:53        phh| they aren't all pwms ?
22:53 marvin24_D| they are
22:54 marvin24_D| but looks like different hardware
22:55 marvin24_D| could also be that harmony cannot regulate backlight at all (beside on/off)
22:56 marvin24_D| sorry for the dumb question, but what does !!foo mean?
22:57 marvin24_D| something like give me 0 or 1?
22:57        phh| yes
22:57 marvin24_D| so looks like harmony does exactly this (on/off)
22:57 marvin24_D| wonder why they specified brightness ranges
22:58        phh| full_on != pwm always on
22:59 marvin24_D| they program via gpio which can only do 0/1
22:59 marvin24_D| maybe pwm has some default frequency
23:00 marvin24_D| look at board-*-panel.c
23:00 marvin24_D| the notify callback only does gpio
23:01      ogra_| on/off works with the default kernel without nvidia bits here
23:02      ogra_| sacling doesnt
23:02      ogra_| *scaling
23:03 marvin24_D| so lets assume we need to program the dc similar to whistler
23:03        phh| paz00-diag.c
23:03        phh| #define COMPAL_EC_BLCTL_ADDRESS_H               0xf4            // Command for back light control
23:03        phh| #define COMPAL_EC_BLCTL_ADDRESS_L               0xb9            // Command for back light control
23:03        phh| could be useful.
23:03      ogra_| yeah
23:04 marvin24_D| also possible
23:04 marvin24_D| would make things easier
23:04 marvin24_D| but afaik the defines are not used anywhere
23:04         * | marvin24_DT checks
23:05 marvin24_D| yep
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23:05   woglinde| re muromec
23:05    muromec| re woglinde
23:06 marvin24_D| compat_ec_read -> reads ram address
23:06 marvin24_D| cool
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23:06    muromec| marvin24_DT, want to damp its fw?
23:07 marvin24_D| I read some posting from someone who did it for the olpc
23:07 marvin24_D| kb3700 ec
23:07 marvin24_D| same company (ene)
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23:11 marvin24_D| paz00_get_light_level looks interesting
23:11      ogra_| i think thats the brightness sensor though
23:11    muromec| marvin24_DT, its light sensor
23:12 marvin24_D| yes, but it shows how to use ec_read
23:12 marvin24_D| if there would be a set_light_level ...
23:13 marvin24_D| we could just replace it by backlight level
23:13         * | marvin24_DT wonders why noone implements set_light_level
23:14    muromec| is it something to use in dark room?
23:14    muromec| to make it light
23:14      ogra_| no, it reduces the weight i guess
23:14   woglinde| lol
23:15      ogra_| its a direct link to fill_with_helium
23:15 marvin24_D| ogra_: it's for home automation
23:16    muromec| ogra_, dont play with gravity
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23:23   shurdeek| hi guys
23:24   shurdeek| ogra: i think phh told me that I can ask you about chromium-browser not working and crashing due to "illegal instruction"? I got it from the arm ubuntu repo.
23:25    muromec| shurdeek, natty?
23:25        phh| no, maverick
23:25      ogra_| the maverick security update i guess
23:25    muromec| ok, thanks for warning
23:25      ogra_| has someone filed a bug already (i'm running natty here)
23:26   shurdeek| and I have one more question in general, I need to rebuild the kernel modules because I need to patch one. What would be the best way to do it?
23:26   woglinde| so ac100 arent the only one?
23:26      ogra_| just roll back to an older package i'd say
23:26   woglinde| shurdeek depends which kernel you are running
23:26      ogra_| woglinde, apparently only ac100
23:26      ogra_| i havent heard from anyone having issues on a panda or beagle xm
23:26   shurdeek| I'm running phh's kernel
23:27      ogra_| i guess the link from the topic works for that
23:27   shurdeek| I just need to edit one file and rebuild that one driver.
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23:28   shurdeek| also, is it normal that the machine freezes after some time? e.g. when I want to rebuild chromium but eventually even if I do something else.
23:28   woglinde| rebuild chromium on the ac100?
23:29   woglinde| muaha
23:29   shurdeek| I'll try an older chromium release then just to see if it's ok.
23:29   shurdeek| I know :-)
23:29   woglinde| shurdeek just rebuild the module
23:29   woglinde| make modules
23:29   shurdeek| yea but where do i get the source from
23:29   woglinde| type /topic
23:29   shurdeek| hmm from git?
23:30   woglinde| no from gitouris
23:30   woglinde| with git command
23:31   woglinde| shurdeek clone the git
23:31   shurdeek| ok will try that
23:31   woglinde| checkout the right branch
23:31   woglinde| copy over the config.gz from your running kernel
23:31   woglinde| to .config in the topdir
23:31   woglinde| get a crosscompiler
23:31   shurdeek| ok
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23:33      ogra_| woglinde, whats wrong with rebuilding chromium on the ac100 ?
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23:35   woglinde| its pain
23:36     gordan| Hi guys. Any news on the new kernel sources for 2.6.32.9 from Android 2.2?
23:36        phh| no
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23:37     gordan| :(
23:38      ogra_| phh, how about putting "NO !"" in the topic ? :)
23:38      ogra_| we can just point to it then ;)
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00:12    bsousa_| Hey, guys. If some one could helps me with my xorg.conf, I would be very glad! :)
00:13    bsousa_| What's the line I should uncomment to use HDMI ?
00:13    bsousa_| Tks
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01:17    muromec| marvin24, "NvEcControlSubtype_ReadFirmwareBytes"
01:28        phh| for backlight, you can try: OEM0/COMPAL_EC_COMMAND/0xf4/XX
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01:35      herny| HI
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01:45        phh| it's not our henry
01:45        phh| is it ?
01:45        phh| I mean the famous one
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09:06      arune| Im trying to connect an ftdi-device in ac100
09:06      arune| does not work
09:07      arune| no device in lsusb, no /dev/ttyUSBx
09:08      arune| dmesg log: http://pastebin.com/dPznFJmA
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09:15    gildean| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoLU6zKaws
09:19      arune| I think I need ftdi_sio and usbserial
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10:20      mirco| damn it my 10V crashed during the ssh|tar run...
10:20      mirco| can ping it but can't login via ssh nor does the screen come back...
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10:56   woglinde| hi polg
10:56       polg| hi
10:59       polg| woglinde, I don't remember exactly... do you yesterday suggest to me the torrent for the android 2.1 backup?
11:00   woglinde| might be
11:01       polg| in this case... thank you
11:02   woglinde| but I didnt tell you the link
11:05       polg| so it was someone else... I'm always not able to see the discussion log. Probably for the future I've to use a better chat instrument at least to save my conversation.
11:05   woglinde| ;)
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11:07       polg| anyone know if the partitions (from 2 to 13) have the same size both with android 2.1 and 2.2?
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11:09      mirco| polg: I used this torrent too, restored 2.1 after I've done the upgrade to 2.2 to fast... So it might work for you too!
11:09   woglinde| to fast?
11:09   woglinde| 2.2 has flash
11:13       polg| I'm not completely sure to go back to 2.1 to have also Ubuntu. My first problem is that with android the AC100 refuse to connect to my wifi router. I've tried to use a static IP as suggested in some forums but it doe's not work. To start I've done a backup of my system, now I've to decide
11:14   woglinde| polg has nothing todo with static adress
11:14   woglinde| its a problem with the driver and wpa_suplicant
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11:15       polg| and does exist a solution (other than change the router)?
11:16   woglinde| polg hm not at the moment
11:16   woglinde| we need sources from toshiba
11:16   woglinde| than it might be possible to build compat wireless
11:16   woglinde| and exchange the driver
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11:17   woglinde| but that needs to alter the initrd too
11:18      mirco| woglinde: in my case "to fast" means getting it from the shop, unwrapping in the car inserting the SIM and doing the upgrade while driving homewards... ;-)
11:19   woglinde| mirco via gsm?
11:19   woglinde| lol
11:19   woglinde| 200 mb
11:19     incred| don't understand, why we can't boot both 2.2 and ubuntu (work for 2.1 android only ) ?
11:19      mirco| woglinde: yeap via GSM...
11:19   woglinde| incred they changes the bootloader
11:19       polg| woglinde: the initrd is one of the partition?
11:19   woglinde| incred so part5 dont loads the kernel image anymore
11:20      mirco| incred: because the bootloader from 2.2 is not yet coompatible to ubuntu
11:20   woglinde| plog no part6 and part5 contains kernel and initrd
11:20   woglinde| and in the initrd specifies which driver is loading
11:20   woglinde| with insmod
11:20     incred| woglinde, hm, ok.
11:20   woglinde| maybee its possible to make a special script in the /system partition which removes the driver
11:21   woglinde| and than may load the compat-wireless driver
11:22       polg| woglinde: I suppose to try to do this I need to be the root
11:22      mirco| polg: shure
11:22      mirco| but you might be able to do it from the adb shell too
11:23   woglinde| args I meant unload instead of remove
11:24       polg| "adb shell" means to work on a dumped partition and then to upload on the AC100 the modified one?
11:24    gildean| woglinde: in the best case, you can get around 7mbps on a hspa
11:24   woglinde| no
11:24 > woglinde| gildean I know
11:25    gildean| so 200MB isn't thath big of a download
11:25 > woglinde| gildean but when you dont have a sane plan
11:25   woglinde| you are paying a lot for it
11:25    gildean| woglinde: not here, you can get cappless 3g quite cheap
11:26 > woglinde| gildean I pay 2,50 per but only when I am using it
11:26   woglinde| per day
11:27    gildean| ok
11:28    gildean| here you get 1mbps 3g for under 20€/month
11:28      mirco| I got a 5GB plan from T-Mobile... and I use it at Home for Dual-WAN in my router, the iPhone and with a surfstick/AC100
11:29   woglinde| mirco ah yes right
11:29      mirco| polg: adb shell means you use nvidia's dev's tools to get a shell to your android from your desktop via USB to your AC
11:29    gildean| fortunately we don't have caps or any download limits
11:30    gildean| i have a 24/2 adsl2+
11:30   woglinde| polg with nvflash you can download all partitions
11:31   woglinde| than loopmount them on the host
11:31   woglinde| or extract kernel and initrd
11:31   woglinde| modify it
11:31   woglinde| and flash it back
11:31      mirco| Wow I'm living so far out that I've only 768/128 ... But thx to DSL-RAM my line should be switched today to something up to 2MB...
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11:32       polg| mirco: with adb shell the system is running or I'm surfing a mounted "inactive" partition like an USB storage?
11:32   woglinde| polg just try it
11:32      mirco| no you only get a root shell on yoour android...
11:32   woglinde| its not a root shell
11:33   woglinde| until you use rage against the cage
11:33    muromec| phh, " Work around for AP20 New Slave Hw Bug. Give 1us extra"
11:34    muromec| from nvec_i2c_transport.c
11:34   woglinde| hw bug?
11:34   woglinde| let see
11:34    muromec| woglinde, lot of them everywhere
11:35   woglinde| printk?
11:35   woglinde| why you dont use the kernelframework
11:37   woglinde| but otherwise the patches are looking good
11:38   woglinde| thanks muromec
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11:45    muromec| woglinde, kernelframework?
11:46   woglinde| muromec hm arent they debug outout?
11:46   woglinde| ups output
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12:33    muromec| yeah, that was i2c bug
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12:33   woglinde| re muromec
12:34   woglinde| hm?
12:34   woglinde| only local changes?
12:35    muromec| yeah, not commited yet
12:35   woglinde| ;)
12:40    muromec| sent out
12:46   woglinde| ;)
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12:58    muromec| oh wow... http://pastebin.com/tCvVEanJ
12:58    muromec| something interesting with mouse
13:00   woglinde| hm whats with the usb?
13:01   woglinde| still not working?
13:14   marvin24| udc timeout?
13:16   marvin24| http://code.google.com/p/chromium-os/issues/detail?id=12473
13:17   marvin24| and I thought it was an ac100 problem only
13:19      mirco| mirco is currently booting his AC from eMMC...
13:19      mirco| for the first Time!!!
13:20   steelrat| mirco: congrats!
13:20      mirco| thx
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13:23   steelrat| mirco: do you have working video playback a la VLC?
13:24      mirco| steelrat: not yet tested... wait a min or two
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13:39      mirco| why the heck can't I shutdown or reboot the AC properly?!?
13:39      ogra_| you cant ?
13:40      mirco| most of the time's it hang's when I try to do so...
13:40      ogra_| shutdown should work fine
13:40      ogra_| reboot needs a hack
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13:41      mirco| five min's ago after I had rsync'd the sys to the eMMC it got unavailable via SSH, but gdm stayed alive, but I couldn't enter keys only the mouse was stilll functional!
13:41      ogra_| echo 1 >/proc/test_program/coldboot
13:42      ogra_| add that before the actual reboot call in /etc/init.d/reboot
13:42      mirco| I know everey reboot seems more like a halt, but I'm fine with that so far... but that the menu's don't even halt is really annoying!
13:42      ogra_| menus ?
13:42      mirco| I mean the menu option in GDM or Gnome...
13:43      mirco| How can I manipulate the boot order?
13:43         * | ogra_ has no probs with that, must be an L4T issue
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13:47      mirco| can I boot from eMMC with the SD card in the reader and how can I choose if I want to boot from SD
13:47   woglinde| ?
13:47   woglinde| you cannt
13:48    gildean| mirco: it will pick the first partition it can
13:48      mirco| can't what exactly?
13:48      mirco| and which is the first SD or eMMC
13:48    gildean| emmc
13:48   woglinde| with bootloader 2.1 you can choose booting from part6 or part5
13:48   woglinde| nothing more
13:49 >    mirco| gildean: so if I've install to eMMC I can't easily boot from SD?
13:50    gildean| you can't boot from sd with a working rootfs on emmc
13:50    gildean| at least with phh's image
13:50      ogra_| ??
13:50 >    mirco| gildean: no hack or workaround?
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13:50      mirco| is off for lunchbreak, but will read answer's when back!
13:51   woglinde| hm hm someone could make a gui into the initrd
13:51      mirco| ogra: reboot now work's thx a ton!
13:51   woglinde| choosing root
13:51      ogra_| if you use two different boot.img's on parts 5 and 6 you can easily boot from everything you like
13:51    gildean| ogra_: oh right, hadn't thought of that
13:52      ogra_| my original img from gudinna automatically scans USB and SD, Sd overrules USB if it has /sbin/init
13:52      ogra_| i use that one for part5
13:52      ogra_| and one that only boots from internal on part6
13:52      ogra_| that way i can either boot from USB, SD or internally
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15:17      arune| muromec: do you remember the difference between light_05 and light_06 here: http://jigoku.muromec.org.ua:31580/ac100/ ? :)
15:19      mirco| ogra: I've got phh's plop.img on 6, if I install your's on 5 how can I switch between booting from 5 or 6?
15:19      ogra_| hold down the home button during boot
15:19      ogra_| then press 1 and you will land in part5
15:20      mirco| top
15:21    muromec| arune, yeah
15:22    muromec| latest one expects actual light value
15:22    muromec| one before expects some random crap
15:22      arune| 0-255? instead of rgb?
15:22    muromec| 0-255, yeah
15:22      arune| ok, thanks
15:22      mirco| ogra: you mean this img: http://ac100.gudinna.com/tegra-2.6.29-arm2-ac100-boot.img ?
15:22      ogra_| yep
15:23      ogra_| you should use the according image on your SD
15:23      ogra_| or grab the modules from the kernel subdir
15:23      ogra_| (at gudinna)
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15:30      mirco| ogra: image according to SD? Do you mean I can flash plop.img to 5 too and then via pushed home-button can switch to boot from SD? Sorry but I'm not used to this... Have installed Debian on PPC, Sparc and intel but this is still confusing to me!
15:30      ogra_| no, i mean you should always use my boot.img with my rootfs and phh's image with phh's rootfs
15:31      ogra_| if you put my image in part5 you shoud use my rootfs on the SD/USB
15:31      ogra_| or if you feel like do your own rootfs but then use my modules tarball from gudinna.com on top of that so you have full functionallity
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15:38      mirco| Thx I'ld be very interested in merging your img with phh's but there are too many other project's currently in progress! Plan was to get a usable machine running linux, this seems to be reached only thing not yet working is keys for screen dimming
15:38   woglinde| merging?
15:38      ogra_| merge ?`
15:38      ogra_| my image is the base for phh's
15:38   woglinde| please do your other projects
15:39      mirco| phh's kernel patches and your clean ubuntu as I don't like to have L4T in my sys...
15:39   woglinde| ?
15:39   woglinde| you dont get it?
15:40      mirco| woglinde: get what?
15:40   woglinde| kernel/initrd ARE seperated from the rootfs
15:41      mirco| as they 're on part 5 / 6 ...
15:41   woglinde| yes
15:41   woglinde| where is the merge?
15:41      ogra_| mirco, well, just pick my rootfs and add phh's modules
15:41      ogra_| and boot with his boot.img
15:42      ogra_| our initrrds are largely the same, we only differ wrt modules and the kernel config here
15:42      mirco| ogra: good to know, this seems to be manageable in one eve! THX
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16:07      arune| mirco: I got dimming to work with a key-binding
16:08      arune| mirco: download and untar http://www.enst.fr/~husson/backlight.tar
16:08      mirco| arune: Thx
16:08      arune| mirco: put files in /usr/sbin/
16:09      mirco| shure
16:09      arune| then create new keyboard shortcuts to /usr/sbin/increase_backlight and /usr/sbin/decrease_backlight
16:09      arune| then run sudo visudo and at the end of the file add: %admin ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/increase_backlight, /usr/sbin/decrease_backlight
16:10      arune| sorry, create the keyboard shortcuts to sudo /usr/sbin/increase_backlight and sudo /usr/sbin/decrease_backlight
16:11      mirco| shure, no prob so far
16:11      arune| I also moved the backlight store to /etc/backlight istead of /tmp/backlight to be able to restore the backlight at startup
16:12      mirco| how is that done? not the MV part but where is this configured?
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17:47       ogra| just for everyone concerned about the broken chromium security update, the breakage has just been identified by the guys in #linaro
17:47   woglinde| ah
17:47   woglinde| whats it?
17:48   woglinde| error inside chromium?
17:48   woglinde| or build process
17:48       ogra| hardcoded -d32 in the build instructions
17:48       ogra| -mvfpv3 switches to 32 ... it is hardcoded in the build system
17:48       ogra| ubuntu uses vfpv3-d16 everywhere
17:49       ogra| (the chromium buildsystem is a maze)
17:49   woglinde| lol
17:49   woglinde| yeah
17:50   woglinde| but yesterday you wanted to compile it yoursel
17:50   woglinde| f
17:50       ogra| so it wasnt neon as i suspected
17:50       ogra| me?!?
17:50       ogra| i dont have time to compile chromium
17:50       ogra| i dont even use it
17:51       ogra| FF4 is so fast, there is no need to use chromium for me ... and my systems are busy building other stuff all day
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18:06      arune| mirco: to change from /tmp/backlight to /etc/backlight you need to edit the files in the tar package
18:06      arune| it's easy
18:08      mirco| arune: so it's only sh script...
18:09      arune| yes, they use the light_05-binary
18:13      mirco| and where's the difference between light_05 and light_06?
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18:31   hengelke| hey there
18:32   hengelke| so i tried the android update but apparently it interfered with the ubuntu installation i had installed to one of the internal partitions.
18:32   hengelke| result is that now, nothing boots any more
18:33   hengelke| e.g. i get a bash prompt that says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
18:33   hengelke| this should mean that partition 6 "LNX" is alive, but some other partitions are missing, right?
18:33   hengelke| i do have images that i did with nvflash, trying to restore 'everything
18:33   hengelke| hopefully i'll get back to a working system ..
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18:37   hengelke| umm
18:37   hengelke| "La mise à jour de votre Toshiba AC100 vers Froyo rendra impossible l’installation d’Ubuntu par la suite. D’après, Ogra, le bootloader a changé ce qui fait que le flashage de la partition 5 censée permettre de démarrer Ubuntu ne permettra pas de booter Ubuntu. Il faudra attendre la sortie des sources afin de débloquer la situation."
18:38   hengelke| so i /can/ restore everything including the bootloader to 2.1?
18:38   woglinde| and whats that mean in chinese?
18:38   hengelke| idk, i could google translate this for you.
18:38   woglinde| yes you can
18:38       ogra| or klingon :)
18:38   hengelke| it roughly means that the bootloader changed with toshiba's upgrade to froyo so ubuntu can't be installed
18:38   woglinde| hm partly
18:39   woglinde| is it the truth
18:39       ogra| no, its a lie, you can install it ...
18:39       ogra| ... it just wont boot :)
18:39   hengelke| sucks balls. i want youtube videos in android and terminals and gnome in ubuntu.
18:39   hengelke| aw, right :-)
18:39   hengelke| ok, which partition am i missing with this "can't access tty; job control turned off" message?
18:40   woglinde| this means the initrd didnt found an init in the partition you specified as rootpartion on ther kernelcmd
18:40   woglinde| line
18:41   hengelke| so basically the root partition does not match the init partition?
18:41   hengelke| which is which?
18:41   woglinde| dont know where you installed stuff
18:41   hengelke| hm
18:42   hengelke| i don't either. so i'll just restore everything and hope for the best.
18:42       ogra| usually mmcblk0p6 iirc
18:42   hengelke| yeah, i restored #6 first
18:42       ogra| restored with what ?
18:42   woglinde| o.O
18:43   woglinde| part6 is kernel + initrd
18:43   hengelke| nvflash from a backup i did two weeks ago
18:43       ogra| mmcblk0p6 != part6
18:43   woglinde| ogra do you know how to setup the mouse sensitive of a touchpad?
18:49      kottt| guys. Who is main at this topic?
18:51      kottt| can anyone put #ac100-ru with russian discussions in topic head?
18:51       ogra| woglinde, the gnome tool ?
18:51       ogra| kottt, phh
18:51      kottt|  ogra: 10x
18:52   woglinde| ogra hm yeah
18:52   woglinde| reminded it
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18:58   hengelke| ogra: so mmcblk0pX is not the -download X foo.img option in nvflash?
18:59   hengelke| beautiful.
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18:59   woglinde| no you can hide partitions to the system
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19:00   hengelke| ok
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19:02   dudedude| Hi
19:03   dudedude| Is it possible to install ubuntu on the MC in the AC100
19:03   dudedude| ?
19:04   woglinde| sure its possible
19:04   woglinde| -> /topic
19:05   dudedude| Which repository?
19:06   woglinde| -> http://ac100.gudinna.com/
19:06   woglinde| but beware if you have the 2.2 bootloader
19:06   woglinde| you will not be able to boot into it
19:09   dudedude| ?
19:09   dudedude| i have ubuntu install
19:10   dudedude| and android 2.1
19:10   woglinde| so it will work
19:10   dudedude| i need MC for ubuntu
19:11   woglinde| why?
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19:12   dudedude| Midniht commander
19:12      herny| Hi
19:12   dudedude| hi
19:13      herny| in usa there not many ac100
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19:14   hengelke| by the way, any word on when the EEE Transformer wil be available?
19:15   hengelke| i saw that thing on cebit ... very impressive
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19:16   woglinde| ?
19:16   woglinde| are we the cebit news channel?
19:18   hengelke| it's an arm netbook. sorry for leaving the channel's topic for a minute.
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19:22      arune| I also like the transformer
19:22      arune| but with a better os on it
19:23   hengelke| i asked the asus guy whether they'd support ubuntu or other operating systems ... he said they weren't sure
19:23   hengelke| i did my share of evangelizing, not sure if it helped
19:24      arune| better than nothing :)
19:24        phh| woglinde: I can give you raw PS2 commands to send if you want :D
19:25   woglinde| phh for what?
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19:25        phh| woglinde: touchpad sensitivity
19:25   woglinde| ah lol
19:25   woglinde| okay
19:25   woglinde| was not for the ac100 anyway
19:25         * | phh muutti kanavan #ac100 topikkia: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net
19:26        phh| oh.
19:26   woglinde| hehe
19:26   woglinde| outof lines
19:26      o6xcc| it's looking good :)
19:26   woglinde| hm wait for the price
19:26   woglinde| if they go with 400 euro
19:27   woglinde| it might be sell well
19:27   woglinde| I wonder how much xoom's were selled
19:27   woglinde| but I bet not this much
19:27   woglinde| ipad2
19:27        phh| 400€ still sounds a lot to me ...
19:27        phh| ac100 is almost the same thing
19:28        phh| and wait. it's half the price.
19:28   woglinde| xoom costs 700
19:28   woglinde| and dont have a keyboard
19:28   woglinde| phh no second akku in the keyboard
19:28   hengelke| phh: touch screen, gps/bluetooth/acc, full android support
19:28        phh| hengelke: touchscreen ~= keyboard in price
19:28        phh| bluetooth is there
19:28   hengelke| not with mine :)
19:28        phh| gps/acc, ok, 50€ more
19:29        phh| ac100 has bluetooth
19:29   hengelke| does it
19:29   woglinde| bt is not really needed
19:29        phh| and wtf "full android support" does here ?
19:29   hengelke| it's actually quite useful on tablets.
19:29        phh| to put keyboards ? :D
19:30   hengelke| tablets /with/ keyboard are useful. ok, now you've got me.
19:31        phh| i wouldn't take a tablet with a bluetooth keyboard ...
19:31        phh| totally unusable ...
19:31   hengelke| hence the transformer, it seemed a nice concept
19:32   hengelke| as soon as it's available you might find an ac100 on ebay ;-)
19:33   hengelke| given that i fix my os install.
19:33      o6xcc| macbook air based on tegra3 is nice concept ;)
19:34        phh| hengelke: I must agree
19:34        phh| the big problem for me is the price
19:34        phh| i'm still wondering why I bought the ac100 for 300€.
19:36        phh| ah yeah. I expected it to read all my 720p files -_-'
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19:36   woglinde| re muromec
19:36     pm215_| I use mine for irc, email and random webbrowsing ;-)
19:36   woglinde| hm acutal I am using mine
19:37   woglinde| for uboot
19:37   woglinde| haha
19:37   hengelke| phh: that's why i'm eager to have froyo running
19:37        phh| hengelke: ????
19:37   hengelke| flash support is nice.
19:37      arune| phh: does the ac100 have hardware to decode 720p?
19:37   hengelke| and just being able to boot into android for media playback
19:37   hengelke| arune: 1080p even over hdmi
19:37        phh| hengelke: wtf is the link ?
19:37        phh| arune: not the 720p files you find on err
19:37        phh| how to put that
19:37        phh| well you know.
19:37        phh| where people with real coders put their stuff :D
19:38        phh| real encoders I mean
19:38   hengelke| phh: sorry ... it's not froyo but rather any dual-boot system that just works[tm]
19:38        phh| hengelke: I still can't see what the link is.
19:38        phh| i'm saying the tegra2 is just not capable of doing that
19:38    muromec| phh, doing what?
19:38        phh| my only hope would be avc core for arm/o\
19:38   hengelke| oh.
19:39   hengelke| so you do have to re-encode everything for the ac100?
19:39        phh| hengelke: na, I just download SD versions :D
19:39        phh| on ac100's screen it's fine
19:39        phh| and nvidia has great scaler
19:39   hengelke| :-)
19:39        phh| muromec: sorry I had totally forgot that nvec workaround :s
19:40    muromec| phh, you suck
19:40        phh| yup
19:40        phh| muromec: still you've got PS2 bugs :p
19:40        phh| perhaps just disable printk :D
19:40    muromec| well, now we have problems with ps2
19:41    muromec| need to code nvec_write_sync()
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19:47    muromec| phh, its not just flood with printk() it sometimes looses sync
19:47        phh| sync with what ..?
19:48    muromec| with itself
19:48        phh| ah.
19:48    muromec| just run xorg with latest .36
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20:07   mirco_ac| after resume I've mouse probs
20:08   mirco_ac| color inverted box near mouse pointer
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20:09        phh| mirco_ac: add -softCursor to /etc/X11/Xph
20:09        phh| at the Xephyr line
20:09        phh| before the &
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20:12   woglinde| hi ggrandou
20:12   woglinde| long time not seen
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20:17 marvin24_D| phh: what about creating a .36 branch ontop of gitorious/ac100 ?
20:18 marvin24_D| I think it's no longer my personal project
20:18   woglinde| *g*
20:18 marvin24_D| and I need to space for something else
20:18 marvin24_D| also a u-boot tree wouldn't be wrong
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20:23    muromec| btw, whats with u-boot?
20:24       ogra| bootloader
20:24       ogra| the most common one in the arm world
20:24    muromec| i know what *is* u-boot :)
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20:25    muromec| i mean asking whats the status of its port
20:26   woglinde| ask pl9
20:26   woglinde| but seems he didnt checked in any  new patchtes in his tree
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20:27    muromec| marvin24_DT, what about display backlight?
20:27    muromec| have you found how to adjust its brightness?
20:28 marvin24_D| just now checking how to use your notifiers
20:28    muromec| ah
20:28 marvin24_D| sorry, I'm slow
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20:29    muromec| not sure yet
20:29 marvin24_D| I guess one could easily write some byte via nvec_write_async
20:29 marvin24_D| to check if it works
20:29    muromec| works what?
20:29 marvin24_D| but I wanted to test you nice infrastructure first
20:30 marvin24_D| the backlight
20:30    muromec| ah
20:30 marvin24_D| phh said something about the magic bytes yesterdax
20:30    muromec| iirc, its controlled by both gpio and nvec?
20:30 marvin24_D| backlog killed
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20:30 marvin24_D| I don't know
20:31 marvin24_D| the seems to be some byte sequences defined
20:31 marvin24_D| so the ec protocol has it
20:31 marvin24_D| but unsure if it is used
20:31    muromec| hmm
20:31    muromec| something in ODM request type?
20:32    muromec| this can be just bruteforced
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20:33 marvin24_D| I have to check the backlog on my remote computer
20:33        phh| [00:28:30] <phh> for backlight, you can try: OEM0/COMPAL_EC_COMMAND/0xf4/XX
20:34        phh| it's a total guess, based on #include's in nvec driver
20:34        phh| but I should trace I2C on .29
20:36 marvin24_D| / Command for Backlight Control
20:36        phh| yeah
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20:40 marvin24_D| so it's some "0x0d 0x1 0xf4 0xb9 xx yy"
20:40      dario| about eselect-ac100boot ... isn't everything before the MBR partition hidden from linux ? how can it write to the boot partition ?
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20:41        phh| marvin24_DT: uh ?
20:41 marvin24_D| OEM0, WRITE, BL_H, BL_L, xx, yy - no?
20:41 marvin24_D| request type?
20:42        phh| that would be more than unusual
20:42        phh| i'd say you need two writes
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20:44    muromec| 0x0d 0x10 0xf4 XX
20:45    muromec| like this
20:45        phh| yeah
20:45        phh| that's what I'd say too
20:45        phh| i don't really understand why there is a BL_H and BL_L though.
20:45 hyperlemmi| any chance of hacking a pixel QI display into the ac100? too thin?
20:45        phh| especially at totally different addressses
20:46    muromec| hmmm
20:46 marvin24_D| high and low, because the ec has more than 255 byte memory?
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20:47        phh| marvin24_DT: yeah could be
20:47    muromec| ah, its not EC_COMMAND
20:47        phh| ah ?
20:47 marvin24_D| I looks at the ambient light sensor
20:47 marvin24_D| (which is read only)
20:47 marvin24_D| but they send high + low
20:47        phh| marvin24_DT: well if there is something to read ... :p
20:48        phh| ah only the code
20:48    muromec| look at light sensor
20:48 marvin24_D| I don't know well the format of the string to write
20:49 marvin24_D| does it start with OEM0
20:49 marvin24_D| or do we need something else before?
20:49   woglinde| till later
20:49    muromec| nothing
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20:49    muromec| i think WRITE_ADDRESS should be used
20:50 marvin24_D| what's the differnce between ec_write and ec_write_address?
20:50 marvin24_D| ram/rom?
20:51 marvin24_D| I don't want to kill my ec firmware!
20:51    muromec| damn
20:51    muromec| just sniff that crap on old kernel
20:52 marvin24_D| ;-)
20:52 marvin24_D| no longer possible
20:52    muromec| hah?
20:52 marvin24_D| bootloader is 2.2
20:52 marvin24_D| I think I also have to downgrade again :-(
20:53 marvin24_D| f*k
20:54        phh| (don't look at me, don't look at me, don't look at me)
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21:16     turbo_| mmm still no logs?
21:17     turbo_| what's the news from the last 5 days? Are the .32 sources here?
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21:35    muromec| errr
21:39 marvin24_D| I put an emergency backlog at www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/ac100/yyyy-mm-dd.txt
21:40 marvin24_D| err, http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/ac100/yyyy-mm/yyyy-mm-dd.txt
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21:50    muromec| ec sucks
21:50    muromec| so nvec_write_async("\x0d\x00\xf6\x6b", 4); returns me zero
21:51    muromec| as we have no light sensor
21:51    muromec| nvec_write_async("\x0d\x00\xff\xb9", 4); returns zero too
21:51    muromec| nvec_write_async("\x0d\xb3\xff\xb9", 4); responds with error 4 (wrong op)
21:52    muromec| also tried to write (0d 00 ff b9 11)
21:52    muromec| no error reported and no visible effect
21:52    muromec| ah crap
21:52    muromec| where there is ff?
21:54     turbo_| thanks marvin24
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21:57       ZoX_| anyone have a skype client form ubuntu on ac100... ?
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21:57       ZoX_| or from other way...
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23:05   traznaie| phh: hi
23:05   traznaie| phh: there was a site somewere here, woth a bunch of links includinf a torrent file with the backups for a ac100 10d
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23:08     nicofs| hmm.. since the topic is on anyway... has anyone got a 10V backup...? i've got partitions 2-7, but i can't get them onto my ac because there is a size mismatch with partition 2 & 3...
23:08      kottt|  traznaie: hey
23:09      kottt| i have torrent with some universal backups
23:09   traznaie| that will do
23:09   traznaie| I just want the 5
23:09   traznaie| :)
23:09 hyperlemmi| http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/download/
23:10   traznaie| that's the one
23:10   traznaie| thanks
23:11      kottt| oh, so..
23:11      kottt| use it )
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23:12     ramana| any views on upgrading to android 2.2.5 ?
23:12   woglinde| what?
23:12   woglinde| go to xda
23:12   woglinde| donate them
23:19 hyperlemmi| speaking of restoring, the wiki just says flash x partition at corresponding sector. should't i be worried about having altered the partitions with fdisk or somesuch? what does the wiki mean with bootloader not working until part2 is restored if part4 was overwritten? (does it restart and we need to flash 4? do we need to flash 4 after 2 before restarting, or 2 and then 4?) What fastboot.bin are they talking about in the wiki (is it the 
23:21   woglinde| too much question
23:22     lenios| you can't change partitions with fdisk, bootloader will set partitions on boot
23:22   woglinde| at once
23:22     lenios| and flash 2 and 4, what's the point of having half the work done?
23:22 hyperlemmi| yeah, lots of questions, but getting it wrong would be a pretty big fail
23:23   woglinde| hm we no bricked ac100 so far
23:23   woglinde| +have
23:23 hyperlemmi| i got no ideea what the partitions hold, noone ever tells me :P
23:23   woglinde| ?????
23:23     lenios| just backup everything first
23:23   woglinde| its in the wiki
23:23     lenios| then there will be no risk to brick
23:23   woglinde| partition-layout
23:23 hyperlemmi| check. thanks to our good friend that provided us with http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/download/
23:25 hyperlemmi| so what's the deal with fastboot.bin that they mention in the wiki? is it supposed to be the default bootloader? because i had the impression nvidia's stock.fastboot.bin is the same with the added benefit of being able to boot your USB/SD
23:26     lenios| i'm using fastbook.stock.bin
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00:07     nicofs| has someone got the files i need to restore the original partition layout for a 10V?
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00:07      kottt| Nicofs: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1757382/temp/%5Brutracker.org%5D.t3445760.torrent
00:08     nicofs| kottt, is that the 10D torrent?
00:08      kottt| this torrent usefull for all models
00:08     nicofs| i just downloaded that - but it doesn'T exactly help - i started with partition 2 and it results in error
00:09      kottt| what message you get?
00:09     nicofs| "command failure: partition download failed (bad command)"
00:09     nicofs| "failed executing command 14 NvError 0x120002"
00:09      kottt| maybe because you use bad command?
00:09     nicofs| what would be the right one?
00:09      kottt| or something else
00:09   woglinde| nicofs you need rawrite for the firs partions
00:10   woglinde| not --download
00:10     nicofs| i fialed with that aswell a few days ago... but i can try... what's the rawdevicewrite command?
00:10     nicofs| i think that my partition layout does not reflect the image sizes i try to upload...
00:11    gildean| and doublecheck the numbers when you use rawwrite
00:11      kottt| no
00:12    gildean| nicofs: you can find the rawwrite instructions from the wetpaint wiki
00:13      kottt| if the size is wrong, you got ***.img is too small for writing 6291456 bytes
00:13      kottt| or somethig like this
00:13     nicofs| yes, i had that!
00:14      kottt| ok, show me your actusl command and actusl message (with bytes command)
00:15      kottt| the problem is that your sector size = 4094 bytes instead of 2048
00:15     nicofs| kottt, hang on, need to reproduce that...
00:16      kottt| and you can fix your problem if you use in start-sector/2 and sectors-count/2 in command sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./nvflash  -r --rawdevicewrite [start-sector] [sectors-count] [path]
00:17     nicofs| "tac100-part-3.img is too small for writing 3670016 bytes // command failure: writedeviceraw failed"
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00:19      kottt| show your command
00:21     nicofs| ah... found my mistakes... need to shut off the ac after every write...
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00:21      kottt| or just send boo6tloader only once
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00:22      kottt| try sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./nvflash  -r --rawdevicewrite 768 128 [path]
00:22     nicofs| using that
00:23     nicofs| but 1-4 are sent so far
00:26    muromec| http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/ecdump.bin
00:26   woglinde| muromec thats ec ram?
00:27     nicofs| ubuntu doesn't work after upgrade to 2.2, does it?
00:27    muromec| woglinde, eah
00:27   woglinde| partly
00:27    muromec| woglinde, ec read accepts two 8bit args
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00:28   woglinde| so its working with 16bit
00:28    muromec| dunno
00:32    muromec| there also are NvEcControlSubtype_GetFirmwareSize and NvEcControlSubtype_ReadFirmwareBytes
00:32   woglinde| *g*
00:32   woglinde| flashfirmware?
00:32    muromec| and ones update fw
00:33   woglinde| ;)
00:33    muromec| *for update
00:33     nicofs| How low do you think will prices for the ac100 get...? I bought my 10V for 260? - now i could get it for 190...
00:34    muromec| nobody except you, leeenups freeks would ever buy this crap
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00:35     nicofs| it's only crap because of android...
00:35    muromec| because of nvidia and toshiba
00:36    muromec| everything else here is brilliant
00:36      mirco| he he
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00:59   woglinde| what?
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01:00   ggrandou| ec is a 8051
01:00   woglinde| ugh
01:02   ggrandou| http://dl.free.fr/p9fX9GhW5
01:02   ggrandou| not that it would be usefull...
01:03   woglinde| I cannt read french
01:04   woglinde| xda is always fun
01:04   woglinde| http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11941177&postcount=3314
01:08   ggrandou| woglinde: french free url http://share.grandou.net/ac100/ec/ecdump.disass
01:09   woglinde| firmware dump
01:10   woglinde| what is DB 00h?
01:10   ggrandou| DataByte
01:13   ggrandou| pfff... I didn't touch my ac100 for 2 weeks, and I'm in lazy moo
01:13   ggrandou| mood
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01:16   woglinde| xda is really fun
01:21   woglinde| haha
01:21   woglinde| http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=c84fe51418ba33776a9dc188c8314c334e0c302e
01:22   woglinde| and typo
01:22   woglinde| http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=03bc8a7c8aec3ed2c2bbe60442df9d4789975f1f
01:22   woglinde| *sigh* why nobody reviews the patches
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01:32   woglinde| gk
01:32   woglinde| good nite
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10:58   steelrat| Hi Woglinde! Is the video acceleration and decoding working under Ubuntu?
11:00   woglinde| no
11:01   steelrat| woglinde: bad thing, so no good video playback... Mhhh, any chance to get it working?
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11:02   woglinde| steelrat not really
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11:03   woglinde| there is little support in all the freeplayers for khronos omx
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11:04   steelrat| woglinde: what about the 9.04 image mentioned in the tegra forum? Does it incorporate video acceleration?
11:05   woglinde| it hast all the codec files
11:05   woglinde| but still no player which can really use it
11:06   steelrat| woglinde: please can you explain? Why can't the players use the codecs? Are there not working system wide?
11:07   woglinde| the players has no support
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11:07   woglinde| phh started for mplayer
11:07   woglinde| but didnt come that far
11:07   woglinde| steelrat maybee xmbc is working
11:07   woglinde| search xmbc and tegra
11:07   woglinde| and try it
11:08   woglinde| but you have to try it in the chroot I guess
11:08   steelrat| woglinde: mhhhh, that sounds like a good idea! Thank you!
11:11   woglinde| there is a repos/for of xmbc somewhere on github or gitoroius
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11:12      Tesno| so
11:13      Tesno| is this nvflash supposed to give some feedback after nvflash started
11:13   woglinde| yes
11:13   woglinde| if you loadt fastboot
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11:13   woglinde| it returns to commandprompt
11:13   woglinde| be sure you executed as root
11:17      Tesno| how long should bootloader flash take?
11:17   woglinde| not long
11:17      Tesno| ok
11:18   woglinde| and you get progress
11:18   woglinde| maybee you forgot the go
11:18   woglinde| please read the wiki again
11:18   woglinde| about restore/backup
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11:22   steelrat| woglinde: there is a tegra2 xbmc... But why use chroot?
11:22      Tesno| I used the readme from http://ac100.gudinna.com/
11:22   woglinde| because the omx stuff isnt in normal ubuntu
11:23   steelrat| woglinde: aha!
11:23      Tesno| but
11:24      Tesno| am I experiencing this: Note: Apparently some people are having problems when backing up and writing the boot image right after another.
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11:34      Tesno| there also seems to be difference in file names
11:34      Tesno| readme says fastboot.stock.bin, wiki says fastboot.bin
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11:38     Kos-ru| Hi all!
11:38      Tesno| hi
11:38     Kos-ru| does anyone know what keyboard model in ubuntu used ?
11:39     Kos-ru| I want to use multiplied keyboard layout, but it changes keyboard model
11:39     Kos-ru| What is it default?
11:42     Kos-ru| or maybe someone know how to view keyboard model driver used at the moment?
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11:59   marvin24| muromec: you were again genious, thanks for the dump
11:59   marvin24| http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/ecdump.d52 has a (simple) dump
11:59   marvin24| looks very good
12:00   woglinde| marvin -> thats from ggrandou
12:00   woglinde| http://share.grandou.net/ac100/ec/ecdump.disass
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12:00   marvin24| woglinde: no nmemorics
12:02   woglinde| hm yes
12:02   woglinde| yours are looking better
12:02   mirco_ac| has someone aa hint relating the mousepointer issue -i asked for last night
12:02   woglinde| what?
12:03    muromec| marvin24, have you found something usefull?
12:03   marvin24| no time yet
12:03   marvin24| but it makes sense
12:05   marvin24| need a better dump
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12:07     Kos-ru| does anybody know what keyboard model used in linux for ac 100???
12:09   woglinde| kos-ru?
12:09    muromec| marvin24, better dump?
12:09   woglinde| kos-ru load the kbd map yourself
12:13   marvin24| muromec: I meant decoding of the dump
12:13    muromec| ah
12:13     Kos-ru| I anderstand, but initial kbd model has for example PgUp and PgDn keys, and when I use en,de,ru layouts it changes and more keys doesn't work
12:13    muromec| marvin24, is it arm?
12:13   marvin24| no, 8051 variant
12:13   marvin24| donno which
12:14   marvin24| maybe I can find the i2c communication routine
12:17   marvin24| maybe similar to http://wiki.laptop.org/images/a/ab/KB3700-ds-01.pdf
12:39     Kos-ru| aren't there any ready working variant?
12:39     Kos-ru| =(
12:40     Kos-ru| But in default it load some keymap that works with all keys
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12:40     Kos-ru| what variant is it?
12:40      arune| swedish works on my ac100, I also had to edit xorg.conf
12:41     Kos-ru| and what model did you sign?
12:41      arune| 10d
12:41     Kos-ru| no, i mean keyboard model
12:41     Kos-ru| in xorg.conf
12:41      arune| pc105 and se
12:42     Kos-ru| hm
12:42     Kos-ru| ok
12:42     Kos-ru| I'll try
12:42      arune| there should be more ppl here with your version of ac100
12:44     Kos-ru| I set pc105, but some buttons doesnt work anywhere (
12:45     Kos-ru| maybe the problem is in my debian (
12:45     Kos-ru| but shouldn't be
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13:57      arune| how does gnash or lightspark work on the ac100? for flash...
13:58   woglinde| only a bit
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13:59      arune| does it work worse than on x86?
13:59      arune| ... or as bad?
13:59   woglinde| worser
14:00      arune| to bad
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14:13      arune| where can I download the source for kernel modules ftdi_sio and usbserial for .29?
14:13       ogra| arenet they in your rootfs already ?
14:14       ogra| they definitely are in my images and phh said yesterday he built all possible modules
14:14       ogra| so they should be in his image too
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14:14      arune| hm, strange, I did locate ftdi and only found a module called ftdi-elan.ko
14:15       ogra| well, i use ftdi serial converters nearly every day with my ac100
14:15       ogra| but using my image indeed
14:16      arune| grrr
14:18      arune| yep, ftdi_sio.ko is in your image but not in phhs image
14:19       ogra| blame phh then ;)
14:19   woglinde| but phh has a modules.tar somewhere
14:20      arune| woglinde: not included in http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/2011-01-16/ either
14:22   woglinde| ask him this evening
14:22      arune| usbserial.ko is included in modules-4dd097f.tbz2
14:22   woglinde| he might build them for you
14:22      arune| maybe I can use ftdi_sio from ogras image?
14:23   woglinde| no
14:23       ogra| i doubt the symbols will match
14:23   woglinde| diffrent kernel
14:23      arune| aha
14:23      arune| then Ill ask phh, thanks for the info
14:24        phh| ask me what ?
14:24      arune| phh: for the kernelmodule ftdi_sio
14:25      arune| its included in ogras image but not in yours (what I can find anyway)
14:25        phh| funny
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14:30        phh| woglinde: xbmc should work
14:30        phh| no need to chroot
14:30        phh| but you won't have sound
14:30        phh| of course.
14:30   woglinde| hm okay
14:30   woglinde| wasnt sure
14:32      arune| phh: do you think you could compile ftdi_sio for me? should I ask you later instead?
14:32        phh| would be complicated
14:34      arune| aha :/
14:34        phh| i should make a new release
14:34   woglinde| ;)
14:34      o6xcc| new release?
14:35      o6xcc| .36 ?
14:36   woglinde| no
14:36        phh| no .36 release until google or nvidia released something that can use it
14:37        phh| well, if sound and suspend works, I might reconsider that.
14:37   woglinde| hm
14:37         * | ogra hopes we have something before natty releases
14:37   woglinde| sound dont works too
14:37   woglinde| I thougt it works
14:37   woglinde| with .36
14:37       ogra| i would roll an image with 36 asap
14:37        phh| woglinde: we need to code a codec driver at least -_-'
14:37   woglinde| and the new alsa drivers
14:37   woglinde| damn codec
14:37        phh| it's not magical
14:38        phh| well, there are quick and dirty and easy way of getting codec up :D
14:38        phh| but hum, later
14:38        phh| need to sleep
14:38   woglinde| hehe
14:38   woglinde| its lunch time
14:38        phh| yes and ?
14:39   woglinde| you didnt sleep at night?
14:39        phh| I did, but not enough
14:39        phh| the sun wakes me up everyday at 7am.
14:40   woglinde| okay
14:40      arune| I noticed that the modules from modules-4dd097f.tbz2 ends up in /lib/modules/2.6.29-arm2-ac100-g4dd097f/ when all others lies in /lib/modules/2.6.29-arm2/, will the kernel load modules in any of those?
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14:41        phh| no
14:41        phh| it's not meant for the same kernel
14:42      arune| aha
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14:58      o6xcc| http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
15:06 moonlightl| http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/17/will-a-200-asus-eee-pc-finally-ship-with-googles-help/
15:06 moonlightl| does this mean that chrome os is going to be releassed for arm in june...
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15:19      o6xcc| phh: new release will include 200-lines kernel patch?
15:27   woglinde| why?
15:27   woglinde| configure cgroup yourself
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17:34      ogra_| phh, FYI Riddell> kunal and I are looking at packaging the kwin with gles for natty
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18:08    muromec| http://paste.ubuntu.com/581651/
18:08    muromec| this looks like list of ec vars
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18:10    muromec| here more readable http://paste.ubuntu.com/581652/
18:10    muromec| most FEA5 looks nice
18:11    muromec| ones with 255 too
18:11    muromec| extracted with this script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/581653/
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18:18      dario| what's ecdump.bin ?
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18:19     lenios| hi there
18:20     lenios| i have a good news, i got the 2.2 source code
18:21      ogra_| lenios, can you push the tgz somewhere so we can mirror it ?
18:22     lenios| i will
18:22     lenios| i need to rip the cd first
18:22      ogra_| there is no kernel tarball on it ?
18:23      ogra_| it was on the last one
18:23     Dahaka| what can you do with the 2.2 soure code? :)
18:23     Dahaka| *source
18:24    gildean| Dahaka: new kernel
18:25     lenios| no idea what's on the cd, it's written "Android 2.2 source code" though
18:27     Dahaka| i hope, there will be full Linux support for the AC100 in future :O
18:27    gildean| lenios: if you need, i can host the file on a 100/100 server
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18:28         * | ogra_ will happily provide a mirror
18:31     lenios| i'm uploading binary-source.tgz
18:32     scoopr| delightful oxymoron =)
18:32      ogra_| heh
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18:50        phh| ogra_: cool :)
18:50        phh| lenios: \o/
18:50      ogra_| Qt in natty already defaults to GLES for all GL stuff on arm
18:51        phh| ah, Qt provides a realy abstraction ?
18:51        phh| didin't know
18:53     lenios| http://lenios.free.fr/ac100/
18:53     lenios| check the md5, upload timed out at the end
18:53        phh| free.fr ? aoutch.
18:54        phh| 100kB/s, ok I expected it to be worse.
18:54     lenios| don't you have free?
18:54        phh| only at my parents' home
18:54        phh| oh I've got a dedibox available
18:54        phh| should be "kind of" faster.
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18:55        phh| ah yeah. that dedibox's dead. ok I'll just wait at 100kB/s
18:58     scoopr| I have an average of 200k/sec
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18:58       yoyo| hi
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19:01     lenios| no one else having illegal instruction on starting chromium-browser?
19:01        phh| everyone else you mean ?
19:01        phh| ogra_: when will it be rebuilt ?
19:01      ogra_| yes, its known, linaro is working on a fix
19:01      ogra_| no idea
19:02        phh| ah they don't have the fix yet ?
19:02      ogra_| i just know they identified the breakage
19:02        phh| k
19:02      ogra_| they have to rework bits in the build system
19:02        phh| a big old sed -e 's/-d32/-d16/g' should be enough
19:02        phh| *ahum*
19:03      ogra_| no, becaause its vfp3 not vfp3-d32 that sets it to d32 ;)
19:03      ogra_| that will be a bit trickier
19:03        phh| ok then s/vfvpv3/vfpv3-d16/g
19:03      ogra_| and you need to make sure that you dont change the stuff thats actually for building qith vfp3 :)
19:04      ogra_| you really have to look at every occurence
19:05        phh| it has support for both in the same runtime ? oO
19:07      ogra_| no idea, it might have differejt build paths for different hardware
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19:16   woglinde| hm
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19:16   woglinde| I guess phh will push the kernel sources
19:16        phh| that's kind of likely.
19:16   woglinde| thats the only sutff I need from the cd
19:17        phh| oh, really ? :)
19:17        phh| you don't need as-is busybox sources ?
19:17   woglinde| lol
19:17   woglinde| no
19:17        phh| or as-is webkit sources
19:17   woglinde| wpa_spullicant sources I dont need
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19:18        phh| what about dbus sources ?
19:18        phh| or libext2
19:19     lenios| can you confirm uploaded file is correct?
19:19        phh| or iptables, or iproute2, or e2fsprogs,
19:19        phh| just double checking, but it seems so yes
19:19        phh| yup
19:19     lenios| with md5
19:19        phh| well, it gunzip
19:19        phh| ah.
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19:20        phh| phh @ phh-desktop ~ % curl http://lenios.free.fr/ac100/binary-source.md5                                                                                                        (17718)
19:20        phh| b9bfd52b750f58af3914a58699f12d9d  binary-source.tgz
19:20        phh| phh @ phh-desktop ~ % md5sum binary-source.tgz                                                                                                                                  (17719)
19:20        phh| b9bfd52b750f58af3914a58699f12d9d  binary-source.tgz
19:20        phh| phh @ phh-desktop ~ %
19:20        phh| fuck, it takes a while to extarct -_-'
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19:20     lenios| ok good
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19:21        phh| ah no
19:21     lenios| there's like almost 600mo in 122mo file
19:21        phh| it's just that my data storage partition crashed
19:21        phh| ah no
19:21        phh| it's really just fucking slow.
19:26        phh| copying back from extracted point to git ...
19:26        phh| pfffff
19:30 marvin24_D| looks like they ran to code through the coverity checker
19:30        phh| ah ?
19:30 marvin24_D| paz00_diag:   2010/12/30; lance; for coverity check err
19:30 marvin24_D| and after that some additional kfrees
19:31 marvin24_D| ;-)
19:31        phh| **hint** paz00_set_lback
19:31        phh| lolwat
19:31 marvin24_D| Wolfson?
19:31        phh| it's wm8961
19:31   woglinde| marvin hehe
19:31 marvin24_D| ?
19:32 marvin24_D| that's new
19:32        phh| wtf is that
19:32        phh| they've got two codecs or what -_-'
19:32 marvin24_D| how do you kow if it's a wm8961?
19:32        phh| google wolfson 8961 ?
19:33 marvin24_D| I mean from the source
19:33        phh|     guid = NV_ODM_GUID('w','o','l','f','8','9','6','1');
19:33        phh| could be just some really bad hacks to make alc compatible with wm8961 :D
19:33        phh| but na.
19:33         * | marvin24_DT hasn't that part yet
19:33 marvin24_D| na?
19:33 marvin24_D| you never now
19:34 marvin24_D| is the driver activated in the config?
19:34        phh| WriteWolfsonRegister, which uses that guid
19:34        phh| is in paz00-diag.c
19:35 marvin24_D| also pi3-hdmi ...
19:37   woglinde| so phh will really made a new release today
19:37        phh| woglinde: unlikely
19:37   woglinde| ;)
19:37        phh| I've got a robot to get to work.
19:37   woglinde| ah
19:38        phh| /  LVDS LCD Display
19:38        phh| static const NvOdmIoAddress s_LvdsDisplayAddresses[] =
19:38        phh| {
19:38        phh|     { NvOdmIoModule_Display, 0, 0, 0 },
19:38        phh|     { NvOdmIoModule_I2c, 0x00, 0xA0, 0 },
19:38        phh|     { NvOdmIoModule_Pwm, 0x00, 0, 0 },
19:38        phh|     { NvOdmIoModule_Vdd, 0x00, TPS6586xPmuSupply_LDO4, 0 },    /* VDDIO_LCD (AON:VDD_1V8) */
19:38        phh| };
19:38        phh| i doubt that's new
19:38        phh| but **hint** **pwm**
19:38 marvin24_D| *it is new*
19:38 marvin24_D| also the hdmi stiff
19:39 marvin24_D| *stuff
19:39        phh| ok i delete what I said earlier
19:39        phh| no wolf8961.
19:39   woglinde| wo whats than?
19:39   woglinde| so
19:40        phh| woglinde: bah they make code that is never called :D
19:40   woglinde| lol
19:40   woglinde| but centry
19:40   woglinde| maybee thats why the rage against cage stuff dont works anymore
19:40        phh| ok, i've got 1h20 ~ to make a release
19:40        phh| and eat
19:40        phh| let's go
19:40   woglinde| push it
19:41        phh| it's still copying.
19:41   woglinde| hm
19:41        phh| well i'm trying to do it clean, so rm -Rf then push back :D
19:42   woglinde| till later
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19:47    muromec| wtf?
19:47    muromec| 2.2 sources here?
19:47 marvin24_D| yes
19:48        phh| http://lenios.free.fr/ac100/
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19:49     scoopr| This is on a slightly faster pipe: http://scoopr.fi/dump/binary-source.tgz
19:50        phh| yeah, slightly
19:50        phh| like x10
19:51     scoopr| (ovh/kimsufi dedicated)
19:51        phh| ok so ovh has good pipes with renater
19:51        phh| good to know
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19:53        phh| froyo support without device mapper oO
19:55    muromec| phh, what?
19:55        phh| muromec: for app2sd, froyo requires device mapper
19:55        phh| (dm-crypto)
19:55        phh| and it's not enabled here it seems
19:55        phh| or the defconfig they gave is wrong :s
19:55    muromec| phh, O_O
19:57 marvin24_D| so, MACHINE_START has VENTANA, HARMONY and TEGRA_GENERIC
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20:02        phh| ok, one side is building, the other is copying, the other is extracting
20:02        phh| I think i have enough time to eat \o/
20:04        phh| commiting ...
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20:08        phh| wow
20:08        phh| pushed was fucking fast
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20:08        phh| ah
20:08        phh| of course
20:08        phh| I did it wrong
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20:10   woglinde| *g*
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20:11        phh| ok i'll push to eclair-tosh
20:11        phh| noone will notice :D
20:11 marvin24_D| looks like to be based on 10.9.7 release
20:13        phh| ah
20:13        phh| pushing
20:13        phh| for real
20:13        phh| and well, it won't be in eclair(tosh
20:13        phh| but froyo-tosh
20:13   woglinde| *g*
20:14        phh| i'm doing code changes while it's still pushing original code
20:14        phh| of course.
20:14   woglinde| lol
20:14   woglinde| go eat
20:14     o6xcc_| phh: new release will be based on froyo kernel?
20:14        phh| i'm eating
20:14   woglinde| and make the robot run
20:14   woglinde| kernel can wait
20:14   woglinde| no one pushes you
20:14        phh| na ! :D
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20:15        phh| ok, kernel ready, now I need a usb key to boot on.
20:15        phh| that has been carefuly put ......
20:15        phh| no clue where.
20:15   woglinde| why usbkey?
20:16        phh| my mmc reader is dead
20:16        phh| and i've got some useful stuff in internal
20:16        phh| for the robot :D
20:16        phh| well AFAIK there is only one line change that is not already available somewhere online.
20:17        phh| it started compression objects \o/
20:17   woglinde| yes
20:18   woglinde| git garbage collector
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20:18   woglinde| hm what you pushed?
20:18   woglinde| the clone
20:18        phh| toshiba's sources
20:18        phh| as is
20:18   woglinde| ah still see a clone from eclaire
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20:19        phh| Writing objects:   9% (1698/18866), 1.38 MiB | 2.68 MiB/s
20:19        phh| stupid ssh buffer.
20:23    muromec| phh, trace damn backlight command already
20:24        phh| later, later.
20:24        phh| (if everything works fine, i'll be ready in time \o/)
20:24        phh| (which is *of course* what will happen)
20:26        phh|  wut
20:26        phh| screen goes blank at start
20:26   woglinde| ugh
20:26   woglinde| misscompiled
20:28        phh| i can't see how -_-'
20:29        phh| arch/arm/mach-tegra/nvec/nvec.c:1333: warning: 'and' of mutually exclusive equal-tests is always 0
20:29        phh| "lol"
20:30    muromec| that always been there
20:30    muromec| henry is stupid
20:30        phh| ah yeah
20:30        phh| it's that line :)))
20:31   woglinde| lol
20:31   woglinde| poor henry again?
20:32         * | muromec wishes that guy to eat flaming death from deeps of libc
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20:32        phh| lol
20:32    muromec| libc have lot of it
20:32    muromec| just grep it
20:32         * | woglinde is using uclibc
20:33   woglinde| at least for the beagle
20:33   woglinde| phh how many percent uploaded?
20:33        phh| woglinde: still 9%.
20:33   woglinde| what?
20:33        phh| i'm considering ctrl-cing.
20:34   woglinde| hm hm
20:34        phh| ..... vanilla kernel doesn't boot.
20:35        phh| blackscreen etc
20:35   woglinde| vanilla?
20:35        phh| I mean the one provided by toshiba.
20:36        phh| with provided config
20:36   woglinde| not good
20:36      ogra_| which bootloader ?
20:36        phh| 2.2's of course
20:36   woglinde| hm diff with /cat/config.gz ?
20:36   woglinde| ups
20:36   woglinde| /proc/
20:36 boringname| phh: am I right that you are talking of the kernel from android 2.2?
20:36        phh| boringname: yes
20:36        phh| woglinde: you've got it ? :D
20:36        phh| i don't
20:36   woglinde| phh not at hand
20:36   woglinde| need to flash too
20:37   woglinde| still runs u-boot
20:37      ogra_| "runs", heh
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20:38 boringname| I don´t want to push you all, but means that, that ubuntu is running now with android 2.2?
20:38       ogra| read above ?
20:38        phh| % diff .config .config.orig                                                                                          (17866)
20:38        phh| 4c4
20:38        phh| < # Thu Mar 17 19:29:07 2011
20:38        phh| ---
20:38        phh| > # Tue Feb 15 13:56:30 2011
20:38        phh| %
20:38        phh| ok.
20:38        phh| next idea ?
20:38        phh| boringname: no
20:39   woglinde| toshiba suckz
20:39        phh| we won't be able to dual boot
20:39        phh| well not immediatly I mean
20:39       ogra| phh, android has fbcon builtin by default ?
20:39        phh| ogra: no
20:39        phh| ogra: that would just lead to black screen
20:39       ogra| did you enable it ?
20:39        phh| not powered off screen
20:39       ogra| aww
20:39         * | ogra didnt get it was powered off
20:39        phh| could be a wrong cmdline
20:39    muromec| lolwoot?
20:40    muromec| backlight powers off?
20:40        phh| yes.
20:40        phh| i really can't see how that's possible
20:40    muromec| oh...
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20:40   woglinde| wrong cmdline?
20:40        phh| ok
20:40 marvin24_D| I wonder what they send
20:40        phh| works better with proper cmdline
20:40        phh| wtf.
20:41   woglinde| what?
20:41   woglinde| lol
20:41    muromec| "better" ?
20:41       ogra| videoram ?
20:41        phh| let's rerevert my stuff.
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20:41   woglinde| hm 448 vs. 384 maybee
20:41        phh| my cmdline was console=tty0 mem=384M@0M nvmem=128M@384M
20:41        phh| it should work no ?
20:41       ogra| console is a kernel default
20:41        phh| FUCK
20:41        phh| I pushed to eclair-tosh
20:41        phh| not froyo-tosh
20:41   woglinde| oh no
20:42        phh| and this time pushing worked
20:42   woglinde| revert
20:42    muromec| phh, just git reset it and push back with -f
20:42        phh| git reset <id of the last patch> ?
20:42        phh| of the wrong patch*
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20:43   woglinde| you will fix it
20:43        phh| (pushed to froyo-tosh)
20:43   woglinde| I will do dinner now
20:43        phh| pff I hate paris. there are bike stations everywhere.... they are just empty where you need it, and full where you need to stop
20:44        phh|  + eec20f8...034567d froyo-tosh -> froyo-tosh (forced update)
20:44        phh| lolwat.
20:45        phh| it rested froyo-tosh, not eclair-tosh ...
20:47        phh| rested*
20:47        phh| resetd*
20:47 moonlightl| ogra : I tried your installation for usb audio on http://ac100.gudinna.com/kernel/usb-sound/ , sound is now getting out of the speakers but the sound is really distorsed (the usb chip in my dac is the TE7022)
20:47 moonlightl| is there some fix for this ?
20:48       ogra| not reallyy
20:49        phh| yay
20:49        phh| two penguins \o/
20:49       ogra| congrats
20:49        phh| yeah no. I should have got that 15minutes before.
20:52        phh| does someone have the cmdline of froyo somewhere ?
20:52        phh| a console would be "kind of" useful
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20:53     Dahaka| so, what ure doing right now phh? :) im not fimiliar with linux :>
20:54       ogra| trying to boot the new kernel
20:54     Dahaka| ah ok
20:54     Dahaka| are there any improvements?
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20:55        phh| god knows
20:55        phh| in best case, everything works
20:56        phh| that's a rather optimistic point of view thouogh
20:58        phh| funny.
20:58        phh| either X has started
20:58        phh| or console went to suspend.
20:58        phh| but the penguins disappeared
20:59        phh| if it's X, it's a fail though.
20:59        phh| nothing gets displayed
21:01     Dahaka| good luck phh :O
21:02        phh| who needs luck ? :D
21:02        phh| hum, 8pm
21:02        phh| last try
21:02     Dahaka| skills <3
21:05        phh| ok, fail
21:05        phh| gtg
21:05     Dahaka| n8
21:06        phh| who talked about sleeping ?
21:06     Dahaka| haha :D
21:06     Dahaka| so ure german? :3
21:06        phh| no
21:07        phh| french
21:07     Dahaka| ah ok :)
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21:12      bigla| hello someone here having a ac100-10v backup with android 2.1?
21:13      bigla| i accidentaly updated to android 2.2 -- what can i do?
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21:15      arune| bigla: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1757382/temp/%5Brutracker.org%5D.t3445760.torrent
21:16      arune| its for 10D but will probably work for you
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21:19   woglinde| accidentaly?
21:20      bigla| yeah i didnt knew i couldnt install ubuntu with android 2.2.
21:21      bigla| has anybody an idea which partition i need to recover (Partition 2)? would that brick my flash mode?
21:22      arune| do you want to dualboot ubuntu with andoird 2.1
21:23      bigla| torrent - 404s me
21:23      arune| just to get ubuntu working you need to restore 4 and 2 (with rawdevicewrite)
21:23      arune| yikes, it does for me to now
21:24      bigla| i want to make an internal ubuntu installation (kick out android 2.2)
21:24     lenios| hopefully, booting ubuntu once updated to 2.2 will work soon
21:24    gildean| then you need parts 2 nad 4
21:24     lenios| now that we have the sources
21:24    gildean| *and
21:25   woglinde| lenios and it dont works
21:25   woglinde| hm maybee we need the newer nvdaemon
21:25   woglinde| or they one from the android image
21:25     lenios| get it to work, damn it!
21:25   woglinde| for gles X
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21:27      arune| bigla: Ill fix the images to my webserver in a few minutes
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21:30   woglinde| haha ogra
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21:31      bigla| sorry got disconnected
21:31      arune| bigla: Ill fix the images to my webserver in a few minutes
21:32   woglinde| hm still something wrong on gitouroius
21:32      bigla| perfect thanks!
21:33      bigla| did anyone succeed with installing ubuntu despite of having android 2.2?
21:33      arune| bigla: http://arune.se/temp/ac100/
21:33   woglinde| ?
21:33      arune| bigla: not yet, there is some work to be done before that works
21:34      bigla| okay... so you're givin me android 2.1 back again, right? thank you so much!!
21:34      arune| no problem
21:34      bigla| where are the differences between 10D and 10V ?
21:35      arune| bigla: http://linad.org/index.php?title=Toshiba_AC100
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21:35   woglinde| another blog?
21:36      arune| woglinde: another wiki
21:36   woglinde| yeah spread information
21:37      arune| the information is everywhere
21:38      bigla| nice wiki!
21:38      arune| but not complete
21:39      arune| no site is complete
21:39      arune| so lets start another one
21:39   woglinde| right
21:39   woglinde| and one time its outdated
21:40   woglinde| and nobody knows whats rught
21:40   woglinde| right
21:40      arune| now I know why toshiba had that guy on the europe forum to collect infomation on ubuntu, he wanted to understand how to make 2.2 not work with ubuntu anymore
21:40      arune| he did not do the opposite as he said anyway
21:41   woglinde| arune lol
21:41   woglinde| he cannt
21:41     lenios| hey, toshiba are good guys
21:41   woglinde| why the closed the forum?
21:41     lenios| i don't know
21:41     lenios| maybe to promote irc
21:44   woglinde| what?
21:44   woglinde| promote irc?
21:44   woglinde| you are kidding
21:49      bigla| :D
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21:51    gildean| nah, they just though that there were too many sites about the ac100 and decided to cut one
21:52 > woglinde| gildean *g*
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22:06      bigla| thanks for the backupfiles it workeD!!!
22:06      bigla| and now... can somebody point me to a good internal installation manual?
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22:09      arune| bigla: maybe http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
22:10      arune| bigla: for that guide you need to run android to share the storage-partition
22:16   ggrandou| yo
22:16   woglinde| he ggrandou
22:16   woglinde| sources today
22:17      bigla| if its working with 2.2 its ok
22:17   ggrandou| seems to be a great day
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22:17   ggrandou| any source url under the hand ?
22:18   woglinde| ggranndou -> http://lenios.free.fr/ac100/
22:18   woglinde| http://lenios.free.fr/ac100/binary-source.md5
22:18      arune| bigla: you need to restore part 5 and the boot while holding home-button and then run the restore of 2.1
22:18   ggrandou| thanks!
22:19     scoopr| ggrandou, This is on a slightly faster pipe: http://scoopr.fi/dump/binary-source.tgz
22:19   ggrandou| I'm in France on the free.fr network, so ;)
22:19     scoopr| aha =)
22:20     scoopr| so, it's actually fast for someone =)
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22:20      arune| haha
22:21     scoopr| actually, scoopr.fi is in france too
22:21   woglinde| lol
22:22     scoopr| could not resist 18.5e/month for dedicated..
22:22   ggrandou| yep, yes it's hosted in OVH
22:22   ggrandou| 1.70MB/s
22:22   ggrandou| it's capped by my adsl line
22:22   ggrandou| done
22:23   woglinde| +g*
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22:26      bigla| i have doubts doubts about restoring because i have a 10v and not a 10D
22:28   woglinde| compare the sizes
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22:41      bigla| are the manuals from wetpaint up to date?
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22:41   woglinde| not all
22:43      bigla| the internal install
22:43      bigla| all to the nand
22:43   woglinde| hm there is none
22:43      bigla| http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/HOWTO
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22:47      bigla| so best way to get it on the internal is following this manual... right? http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
22:47      bigla| just connecting to android 2.2 via usb
22:47      bigla| and doing all of the stuff again
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22:53      bigla| android is up and connected with my pc
22:54      bigla| the device is detected but there is no partition recognized
22:55      bigla| fixed
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23:14     Dahaka| n8 guys
23:14     Dahaka| have fun with 2.2 :)
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23:18       dan9| Hello, can anyone send me their partitions for a AC100-10Z? I seem to have done something bad to my unit...
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23:28    gildean| dan9: i think arune uploaded the 2.1 backup
23:28    gildean| yeah, here it is http://arune.se/temp/ac100/
23:28    gildean| there was also a torrent, but it seems it was deleted
23:29    gildean| if someone has downloaded the actual .torrent file, i'm sure still are seeds for it tho'
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23:33 moonlightl| magnet link for torrent : magnet:?xt=urn:btih:AP6M6VROBVMEJJD7JLW5IH5RH6JKVKHM
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23:47      bigla| got another problem... how can i reformat part 14?
23:47     robsch| Hi! Where can I find tegra for linux from nvidia? It seems to have disappeared from the usual download link. Thanks in advance.
23:47      bigla| cuz we nilfsked it and now android cannot read it
23:47   woglinde| robsch read it right
23:47   woglinde| http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/downloads
23:47   woglinde| Please check for OS images on the specific Tegra development kit pages
23:49    gildean| bigla: boot it with a sd or usb to ununtu
23:49      bigla| good idea
23:50    gildean| http://developer.download.nvidia.com/tegra/files/linux_for_tegra_os_pack_rel_20101029_10.9.3.run.tar.gz
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23:55       dan9| that's great, thanks guys, I hope i'll be able to get it back up and running!
23:55 >   robsch| gildean: tnx
23:57       dan9| on a related note, does anyone know how the work at http://gitorious.org/ac100 is coming along? is there likley to be a new release?
23:57   woglinde| wait for weekend
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00:22      bigla| cant access tty
00:22      bigla| ?
00:22   woglinde| initrd
00:22   woglinde| rootpartion not found
00:23      bigla| what now?
00:23      bigla| cuz we put the ubuntu on part 14
00:23   woglinde| dmesg
00:23   woglinde| and look where it fails
00:23   woglinde| or dont find the partitions
00:24      bigla| invalid maximum block size?
00:24      bigla| maybe that a problem?
00:24      bigla| i cant manually mount mmcblk0p6
00:24   woglinde| yes could be
00:25      bigla| what can we do about that?
00:25   woglinde| hm right phh's kernel has tegra-partition patch from ggrandou on
00:25   woglinde| that has problems when 2048 bytes block is used
00:25   woglinde| use ogra's stuff
00:25   woglinde| do you want it install internally?
00:25      bigla| could you give me a link?
00:25      bigla| yeah
00:25      bigla| internally!
00:26   woglinde|  /topic
00:26   woglinde| the ac100gudinna.com site
00:26      bigla| okay
00:27      bigla| we are using it right now
00:27      bigla| the internal boot loader
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00:31      bigla| i can boot using external usb drive but not with internal install
00:32      bigla| on internal always cant access tty
00:32      bigla| is there a better way than rsyncing the entire stick to the internal memory?
00:32   woglinde| hm its not ther realbootloader
00:33   woglinde| its linux kernel + initrd in a partition
00:34      bigla| the partition 14 is always reset to fat32 when using nvflash - how to fix that?
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00:35   woglinde| dont know
00:35   woglinde| wait for one who did internal install
00:37   ggrandou| woglinde: heeek?
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00:38   woglinde| ggrandou what?
00:38   ggrandou| <woglinde> hm right phh's kernel has tegra-partition patch from ggrandou on
00:38   ggrandou| <woglinde> that has problems when 2048 bytes block is used --> ???
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00:39   woglinde| ggrandou wasnt that the case?
00:39   woglinde| I am close at sleep
00:39   woglinde| so my mind plays tricks or something
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00:40   ggrandou| hmmm... that's true that phh has several kernel img in the field...
00:41   ggrandou| I'm not sure to remind correctly as well ;p
00:42   ggrandou| I don't know what phh has played with its froyo-tosh branch
00:42   ggrandou| it's like if he has put back its eclair kernel...
00:42   woglinde| yes
00:43   woglinde| I think he will fix it tomorrow
00:43   ggrandou| just reading the patch vs 10.9.7, it's much more clean
00:43   ggrandou| but the ec code /o\
00:43   ggrandou| which is still stamped by Henry
00:44   woglinde| yeah
00:44   woglinde| poor henry
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00:52   ggrandou| hmmm... in fact it's mostly the same mess
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01:02      bigla| is there a tac100-part-5-load.img spinoff for internal boot?
01:02   woglinde| ?
01:02      bigla| or who wrote the tac100-part-5-load.img boot loader?
01:02   woglinde| didnt you read the docu for internal?
01:02      bigla| where? i read lots of them
01:02   woglinde| again its kernel and initrd inside a partition
01:03   woglinde|  /topic
01:03   woglinde| ups
01:03   woglinde| http://ac100.gudinna.com/internal/README
01:03   woglinde| http://ac100.gudinna.com/internal/README.repackinstructions-for-new-ac100-models
01:03      bigla| i got an ac100-10v
01:04      bigla| ok... right now situation is like this:
01:05      bigla| partition 5 is loaded with: tac100-part-5-linux-load.img
01:05      bigla| and partition 6 is loaded with: tegra-2.6.29-arm2-ac100-internal-boot.img
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01:10      bigla| rsyncing worked!!
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02:12    Unseen2| Does anyone here have an idea what may have gone wrong if the recovery option still deletes the Android user data instead of booting Ubuntu? The (hopefully correct) boot.img is on partition 5, reading it back returns the file that was flashed.
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10:31   woglinde| hi
10:38   steelrat| hi
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13:02        phh| Unseen2: you're using android 2.2
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13:08    gildean| Unseen2: flash part 2 and 4 with the partitions from 2.1
13:09      ogra_| phh, so how is the new kernel doing ?
13:09        phh| ogra_: not enough time atm
13:09      ogra_| ah, k
13:09        phh| haven't done anything since the 2 penguins
13:09    gildean| this is the magnet link to a torrent with the backups: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:AP6M6VROBVMEJJD7JLW5IH5RH6JKVKHM
13:09      ogra_| i wonder if it boots with the 2.1 bootloader
13:10   woglinde| hi phh
13:10   woglinde| phh fix git
13:10        phh| woglinde: yes, tonight
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13:10   woglinde| okay
13:10        phh| or ask ggrandou to do it :D
13:17    Unseen2| What if I don't have a backup of those partitions from 2.1? (10V model)
13:17    Unseen2| Oh, magnet link. Ok, thanks =)
13:19    gildean| Unseen2: that backup is from a 10D but should work for you
13:20    gildean| remember that you have to use rawwrite for those parts, and check your models partition table carefully
13:21    Unseen2| Is it known what the new boot loader does differently? It doesn't look like a signature because I could still boot a modified stock image (swapped graphics in the initramfs) on partition 6
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13:23    gildean| Unseen2: afaik it's still unknown
13:24    gildean| maybe they just deliberately blocked us from booting ubuntu
13:25   woglinde| no
13:25    gildean| so instead of verifying that there is an android system, the bootloader checks if there is an unknown modification and refuses to boot
13:25   woglinde| no
13:25   woglinde| u-boot works
13:26      ogra_| you booted the new kernel with u-boot ?
13:27   woglinde| not yet
13:27 >      phh| gildean: ......
13:27      ogra_| but the old one ?
13:27 >      phh| gildean: where the fuck did you get that ?
13:27        phh| we talked about it many times
13:27        phh| it's just changing mtype
13:27    gildean| phh: just joking around
13:27 >      phh| gildean: they would want to block us, rolling back to 2.1 would just be impossible
13:28        phh| Unseen2: if you write kernel on partition 6 it will """"""work""""" (meaning it will try to boot it.)
13:28        phh| it's just that the same kernel is used for both recovery and normal boot
13:30    gildean| hmm, so the 2.2 doesn't have a different kernel on part 5 and 6?
13:30    Unseen2| Yes, I noticed that when I disected the initrd. Modifying the .png files in res/images/, rebuilding the initrd and flashing it to 6 resulted in the new pictures displayed during recovery.
13:31 >      phh| gildean: it does have two different kernels
13:31        phh| it's just that it's always part6 that is booted*
13:36    gildean| so with vanilla 2.2  even if we boot with the home key, it first loads part 6 and only after selecting 1 it boots 5?
13:38    Unseen2| I suspect it always boots 6, just with an additional parameter on the kernel command line for recovery mode.
13:39        phh| Unseen2: yup
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14:40   ggrandou| phh: I would have done it yesterday, but I was not sure of what was your intent
14:42   woglinde| ggrandou pushing new kernelsources to froyo-branch
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14:42   woglinde| but he messed it up
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14:42   ggrandou| yes, I understood ;p
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14:43   woglinde| and pushing the changes as overlay
14:43   woglinde| is maybee not a good idea
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14:43   ggrandou| why?
14:44   woglinde| who will you do it?
14:44   woglinde| delete all files before?
14:44   woglinde| unpack new files?
14:45   ggrandou| git co tag tegra-10.9.7
14:45   ggrandou| tar xf kernel.tar.gz
14:45   ggrandou| git add
14:45   ggrandou| git commit
14:45   ggrandou| git push
14:45   woglinde| ah hm
14:45   ggrandou| ?
14:45   ggrandou| no ?
14:45   woglinde| yes
14:45   woglinde| may work
14:45   ggrandou| will work
14:46   woglinde| hm proably I will make a diff to the folio sources
14:47   ggrandou| from memory, folio vs ac100 patches are really different beasts
14:47   ggrandou| and as ac100 2.2 patches look similar to ac100 2.1 ones...
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16:42     nicofs| what was the program, that i can use to "unpack" and modify the boot.img?
16:43      ogra_| look in the internal subdir on gudinna.com
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16:48     nicofs| that's not quite what i used last time... there was this tiny program/script to unpack the img...
16:48       ogra| well, the tarball there has all tools you need, but feel free to look for something else
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16:50     nicofs| maybe i'm a bit slow today - but what tarball are you referring to?
16:51         * | ogra sighs
16:52     nicofs| sry. matter settled... mea culpa
16:52     nicofs| after all, it is friday...
16:52       ogra| http://ac100.gudinna.com/internal/bootimg.tar.gz
16:52       ogra| that one
16:52   woglinde| abootimage
16:52   woglinde| ogra thats the old one
16:52   woglinde| the newer is nicer
16:52       ogra| woglinde, well, i use the old one and have no probs :)
16:53   woglinde| http://gitorious.org/ac100/abootimg
16:53     nicofs| i just dld it... sorry... i think, i AM a bit slow today...
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16:58 boringname| is there a way to get to the uboot console?
16:59   woglinde| yes
17:00   woglinde| https://github.com/chpec/uboot-ac100/commits/
17:00   woglinde| http://pecourt.ovh.org/wiki-tegra/doku.php?id=uboot
17:01 boringname| thx, I will have a look at these ...
17:01   woglinde| no keyboard
17:01   woglinde| be aware
17:01 boringname| thats not so good
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17:02 boringname| I´m asking because, I want to try somethings on my ac100 as it is the only arm board I have and I would like to play with it
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17:03   woglinde| buy a beagle or panda
17:04 boringname| that was my plan, but I needed something I can use and carry around, so I bought an ac100
17:04   woglinde| ;)
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17:06      arune| I ordered a panda some time ago but got mail today about it being shipped from digi
17:06 boringname| is there a place where I can get some info how a boot-up is working on tegra2 or arm boards?
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17:15    gildean| boringname: the ac100 has it own system
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17:16    gildean| in short, the device bootloader is located at part 2, it loads up kernel from part 6 and part 7 provides the mbr
17:17 >boringnam| gildean: the only thing I would need for the start, would be how to load a file to specific address, how to get the framebuffer address (and infos) and how the i/o is mapped
17:19    gildean| boringname: you can use the rawwrite option in nvflash to write to a particular address, the rest i have no idea
17:19    gildean| boringname: have you read the links in the /topic
17:19   woglinde| boringname quickest maybee is to look at he u-boot patch
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17:20 boringname| woglinde: just did that, but I have to learn more about uboot and how it is working at first
17:21 >boringnam| gildean: what to you mean with the links in the /topic?
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17:21    gildean| boringname: wetpaint for example
17:22 >boringnam| gildean: yeah, I read all info that is there
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17:24 boringname| for the start, I will try to get a file loaded at a specific address, get the framebuffer infos from uboot and put a pixel onto the lcd/framebuffer, I think this will be very difficult, if I get there I can go on
17:24    gildean| woglinde has done the most work with uboot
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17:26   woglinde| no
17:26   woglinde| pl9
17:26   woglinde| was it
17:26    gildean| ok
17:26   woglinde| or better his colleuge
17:27 boringname| ;)
17:28 boringname| when I got my new laptop I will have a look at the uboot source and hope that I need not to modify it to much
17:29    gildean| hopefully phh has time this weekend and he'll get us a new boot.img
17:30 boringname| if it would work with android 2.2 this would be cool
17:31    gildean| yeah, that's one of the main points atm.
17:31    gildean| also it would be cool if things just started to wor
17:31    gildean| +k
17:31    gildean| like sound
17:32 boringname| may I ask what the problem with that all is, I mean why is it so difficult to use the linux from nvidia with working x-server?
17:33    gildean| i think the main problem is toshiba
17:33 boringname| ;)
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17:35    gildean| i'm hoping that we'll have a working kernel around when natty gets released
17:35 boringname| maybe I´m too naive, but why not take the android 2.2 kernel from toshiba and "mix" it with the drivers from nvidia (both should be based of the same kernel version)
17:36    gildean| so ogra could make us a fully working install
17:36    gildean| boringname: yes, that's how it's done
17:36 boringname| so what´s the problem ;)
17:36    gildean| the .29 kernel is originally the android kernel
17:36    gildean| we got the source for .32 yesterday
17:36 boringname| yeah I know
17:37    gildean| no one has had the time to work with it yet
17:37    gildean| but as i said, i hope phh has time this weekend to work on it
17:39    gildean| if you think you can contribute, grab the sources here: http://scoopr.fi/dump/binary-source.tgz
17:39 boringname| the point I have not understood was, why you all where trying to get a newer kernel working, when there was/is a working kernel and a x-server and base on that
17:39 >boringnam| gildean: I already have it
17:40    gildean| the .29 kernel isn't really that good
17:40 boringname| but w/o working computer (I´m sitting on the ac100) it is difficult ;)
17:40 boringname| but it works ;)
17:41    Unseen2| I remember seeing a hint for fixing the AltGr key in xorg in one of the many howtos, but I can't seem to find it. Does anyone have a pointer?
17:41 boringname| so I will be looking in here the weekend to see what is going on
17:41    gildean| .32 should have a lot of improvement, as it should be more friendly towards armv7 architecture
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17:43      arune| Unseen2: edit /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf
17:43      arune| Unseen2: Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
17:43      arune| Option "XkbLayout" "se"
17:44    Unseen2| Thanks, I was looking at the wrong xorg.conf
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17:49    gildean| arune: i added the point you had to the how-to at: http://ac100.tunk.org/wiki/phh
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17:52 >    arune| gildean: great
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17:58    gildean| also updated the article on wetpaint
17:59    gildean| it should be comprehesive enough for now
18:00    gildean| i'll write another how-to at least when we get a new release
18:00    gildean| hopefully that'll be natty with a newer kernel and things like sound working
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18:25 CarolusMag| Hi! How can I use the omxplayer2 from phh's Ubuntu image?
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18:29   woglinde| it dont works really
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18:37 CarolusMag| Is there no chance to get it running?
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18:41   woglinde| no
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19:01     bigla1| hy folks
19:02     bigla1| can anyone point me to some alternatives for the phh ubuntu?
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19:03     bigla1| i want to have hardware video acceleration
19:03     bigla1| i saw there was open max support... is there a ppa for it?
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19:06    gildean| bigla1: phh's version is the only one with somewhat working ogles afaik
19:07    muromec| bigla1, open max?
19:07     bigla1| ogles
19:07       ogra| media playback codec
19:08    muromec| anyone figured out, what is avp and how to use it?
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19:08     bigla1| how can i use it?
19:08    muromec| bigla1, you cant
19:09     bigla1| what then?
19:09     bigla1| is gildean wrong?
19:10    muromec| ah, ogles
19:10    muromec| sorry, dont know much about it
19:13     bigla1| is there a possibility to get rid of the netbook remix gui
19:13    gildean| my bad, i was talking about 3d acceleration, and bigla1 was talking about video decoding
19:16       ogra| bigla1, just select the std desktop at login
19:16      arune| bigla1: which image are you running? you can switch UI at login
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19:16     bigla1| i am running this: http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
19:16      arune| bigla1: ogras image works with the netbook UI, phhs image does not
19:17      arune| yes, then switch UI at login
19:17     bigla1| k i'll try
19:18     bigla1| how can i do that? thers no button or sthg on login screen
19:18       ogra| ther is
19:19       ogra| after you click your user
19:19    Unseen2| Select the user, then an option to select the session type should show up on the bottom bar.
19:19    Unseen2| Not sure what will happen if you don't have a password set though
19:19     bigla1| ah ok
19:19     bigla1| so standard desktop
19:19     bigla1| right?
19:19    Unseen2| Yes
19:19    gildean| arune: ? phh's image does work with normal desktop
19:20    gildean| and should work with netbook as well
19:20    gildean| slowly tho'
19:20    gildean| something in it hogs up the memory
19:21     bigla1| so which ui is best for having good video acceleration?
19:21       ogra| the netbook image doesnt get along well with GLES drivers
19:21       ogra| s/image/UI/
19:21    gildean| bigla1: desktop
19:21     bigla1| k
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19:23 marvin24_D| looks like fastboot plays tricks on us
19:23 marvin24_D| (or I'm totally dumb)
19:23 >    arune| gildean: he was running the netbook remix gui => switch to normal desktop
19:23     bigla1| and mplayer is best for it or totem?
19:25 marvin24_D| fastboot: if (kernel_ver == 2.6.32) machine_id = 2731;  else  machine_id = 3128;
19:25    Unseen2| Interesting, logging in on the phh image seems to hang if I boot a modified phh-boot.img that just has an additional parameter for the internal flash partitions.
19:25     bigla1| is it normal that one of my cpu is always on 100% ?
19:27 marvin24_D| problem is, they did it wrong ... .36 does not start if there is no MACHINE_START(harmony, ...) *AND* MACHINE_START(paz00, ...)
19:27       ogra| they are toshiba, what do you expect :)
19:28    muromec| bigla1, nope
19:28   ggrandou| marvin24_DT: wtf ? how can bl know kernel version ? don't say me that they parse the boot img...
19:28     bigla1| when i am running htop or gnome-system-monitor ... one of them is always at 100%
19:28    muromec| marvin24_DT, how can this be?
19:28 marvin24_D| ggrandou: I guess so
19:28    muromec| bigla1, kill something
19:29 marvin24_D| (or I'm dumb, as I said)
19:29     bigla1| i rebooted
19:29 marvin24_D| I donno much about the bl thing, but everyone (with .36) can try
19:29 marvin24_D| remove either paz00 or harmony
19:29 marvin24_D| (legacy can be removed now with 2.2 bl)
19:30   ggrandou| muromec: avp, it's the audio-video-processor
19:30    muromec| ggrandou, ... and?
19:30   ggrandou| and that's all I know /o\
19:31      arune| bigla1: also check cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
19:35    gildean| bigla1: i think it's normal, as the cpu freq is controlled dynamically
19:35    gildean| bigla1: also, the problem could be pulseaudio
19:36    gildean| if the system feels slow, it's prolly pulseaudio
19:36       ogra| depends on the image
19:36       ogra| in my images pulse is linked to /bin/true by default
19:36      arune| I removed pulseaudio (apt-get remove pulseaudio)
19:36    gildean| ogra: as i understood, he installed phh's image by my instructions
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19:37 >     ogra| gildean, then i wonder how he got the netbook UI by default
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19:37    gildean| i think it is selected by default
19:37       ogra| in phh's image ?
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19:37      arune| yes
19:38       ogra| i thought it isnt
19:38       ogra| ah
19:38    Unseen2| It is
19:40     bigla1| yeah it could be pulseaudio cause i have no sound working
19:40       ogra| sound doesnt work properly anywhere
19:40     bigla1| ah .... hm...
19:41       ogra| in my image it is completely disabled, in phh's its very unstable
19:41    gildean| hopefully the new kernel will help in that regard
19:41     nicofs| when i try to pack a boot.img i get a segfault from make_bootimg...
19:41       ogra| it works with a bluetooth headset and in my image you can also use any USB audio stick (not sure about phh's in that regard)
19:42    Unseen2| nicofs: make_bootimg expects that the new boot.img already exists. Just copy the old one over.
19:43     bigla1| is there better support in debian? or did you choose to work with ubuntu for a reason?
19:43     bigla1| for a certain reason i mean
19:44       ogra| getting debian running might impose some challenges :)
19:44       ogra| you will have to bootstrap it manually
19:44       ogra| all debian packages are built for armv4t ... that will make you lose 5-10% preformance
19:45       ogra| *performance
19:45    gildean| also ubuntu suits more needs of a bigger userbase
19:45       ogra| you prob is the kernel though, doesnt matter if you run a debian, ubuntu, fedora or gentoo userspace
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19:46     bigla1| can i build a gentoo for cortex a9 ?
19:47       ogra| it will not behave any diffferent under any other distro
19:47       ogra| not sure where gentoo stands wrt compiler support in arm ... but you should
19:47       ogra| woglinde might know
19:48       ogra| there are no differences between a8 and a9 though afaik
19:48    gildean| aas i've said before: gentoo is for people who have too much free time
19:48       ogra| heh, yeah
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19:50       ogra| bigla1, nobody will stop you if you want to provide a gentoo build though :)
19:51    gildean| yes, if you have too much free time, please contribute
19:51       ogra| i doubt though that you can keep up with ubuntu arm optimizations with a gentoo build (many upstreams wont have thumb2 fixes etc)
19:51     bigla1| my friend is thinking about it but only if video acceleration works and sound works too
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19:52     bigla1| (thinking about getting a ac100-10v and building gentoo)
19:52    gildean| bigla1: won't work no matter which distro you choose atm
19:52       ogra| then he should probably resort to android or write a letter to nvidia
19:53     bigla1| and what about nvidias ubuntu 9.10?
19:53       ogra| doesnt run with the existing kernel
19:53    gildean| you need a working kernel for the ac100 first
19:53       ogra| well, it kind of runs
19:54       ogra| it is partially what phh used to add that stuff
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19:54       ogra| nvidia only provides binaries built against certain libs and kernel headers
19:54       ogra| (on a sidenote 9.10 is EOL next month or so)
19:55    gildean| ogra: what was the release date for natty?
19:56       ogra| we'll release on april 28th
19:56    gildean| i should change the system disk on my work desktop (intel c2 quad) and at the same time reinstall the os
19:57    gildean| perhaps i'll wait until then
19:57         * | ogra runs natty happily on his laptop
19:57       ogra| and partially upgraded on the ac100
19:57       ogra| (to test unity-2d)
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19:58    gildean| yeah, i have 10.10 in my home server, one internal production server at work and one older laptop at home
19:59    gildean| also the work desktop dualboots to ubuntu
19:59     bigla1| the reason for the 100% cpu: is the echo 1 stuff for getting wifi to work
19:59     bigla1| echo 1 > /proc/test_program/wifi3g
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20:01     bigla1| it seems
20:01     bigla1| because i put it in the rc.local
20:02    gildean| i haven't had any problems with that
20:03     bigla1| on mine it never terminates
20:03     bigla1| the echo 1 > blablbalbla
20:03    muromec| whats is "nvidias ubuntu 9.10" ?
20:04     bigla1| i thought i heard somewhere that somebody said, that nvidia hat some spinoff of ubuntu working for ac100
20:04     bigla1| had
20:04    muromec| just wait for chromes os release
20:04    muromec| *chrome os
20:05     bigla1| but chrome os won't have anything but a browser right?
20:05    muromec| yeah
20:05     bigla1| with working flash?
20:06    muromec| bigla1, http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=board-overlays.git;a=tree;f=overlay-tegra2/x11-drivers;h=86c1ff772c147e7fa9a67995de1f461d2dd06e44;hb=master
20:06     Dahaka| windows 8 will support ARM ;D
20:06    muromec| Dahaka, linux support arm now, so what?
20:06    muromec| *supports
20:06    muromec| damn
20:06     Dahaka| i like linux more than windows
20:07    muromec| bigla1, here you see "ssh://tegra2-private@git.chromium.org:6222/home/tegra2-private"
20:07    muromec| Dahaka, arm is not tegra
20:07    muromec| its just instruction set
20:07     Dahaka| i think it will support tegra too :>
20:07    muromec| not some real hardware
20:07    muromec| Dahaka, tegra is soc
20:08    muromec| not any real divice
20:08    muromec| we spent more than 3 month to get recent linux working here
20:08     Dahaka| tegra is maybe the best option for mobile solutions, i think microsoft wont ignore that
20:08    muromec| when lunux was "supported tegra"
20:09    muromec| this words just dont mean anything
20:10     Dahaka| in fact, i hope there will be a full working linux for the AC100
20:10      arune| do you think linaro will make it easier to get linux working on different platforms, its their goal right?
20:11      arune| maybe wont help when the design details are hidden (how cpu etc is connected and so on)
20:13    muromec| arune, this is not a problem
20:14    muromec| knowledge of how soc is connected will not help you get hw accelerated video ;)
20:15      arune| hehe, no, but maybe easier to set up the backlight?
20:15       ogra| arune, linaro already helped a lot with that and will do more, but nvidia isnt part of linaro
20:15      arune| I guess the biggest problem is closed drivers yes
20:15       ogra| not really
20:15     bigla1| apropos backlight
20:16     bigla1| what can i do about it?
20:16       ogra| linaro has access to these (since the vendors are part of linaro)
20:16     bigla1| i got phh's ubuntu
20:16    muromec| bigla1, trace it
20:16      arune| bigla1: there is a binary called light_05
20:16    muromec| ... and light_6
20:16      arune| :)
20:16       ogra| so for any platform thats a member of linaro you will also get the drivers for the HW for a recent linux
20:16    muromec| both are crap
20:17      arune| bigla1: check http://www.enst.fr/~husson/backlight.tar
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20:17    muromec| bigla1, would be nice if you will compile kernel with ec debug enabled and me with logs
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20:18      arune| ogra: they actually deliver closed drivers to linaro?
20:18     bigla1| i'm sorry, i am not to good with linux
20:18       ogra| arune, thesy deliver whole teams to it ...
20:18     bigla1| so i dont know how to compile etc.
20:18       ogra| and drivers alongside, yes
20:18     bigla1| but i have to go now --- for about an hour
20:18     bigla1| i'll be back :D
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20:19      arune| ogra: yes, Ive heard that to be part of linaro you need to support with man-hours, I really like the setup of linaro
20:19       ogra| right, thats the design
20:19       ogra| there is a core team of devs and each vendor adds people for the different tasks
20:20      arune| but thought they would be more picky to use open source drivers
20:20       ogra| so you get proper support across vendors as well as for specific HW
20:20       ogra| opensource is preferred indeed
20:20       ogra| but the closed drivers are usually available
20:20       ogra| and integrated
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20:20      arune| I guess by time some could be persuaded to go for open :)
20:21       ogra| no
20:21       ogra| most driver issues are in the graphics area
20:21     scoopr| is there any modern arm soc that has opensource graphics drivers? .. I think mali had something, but dunno if it was the whole driver
20:21       ogra| simply due to the fact that the best available graphics stack on arm is owned by imagination (powervr)
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20:22       ogra| scoopr, someone announced a mali based board a few weeks ago
20:22      arune| powervr vs nvidia, both very keen on closed source I guess :/
20:22       ogra| powervr is owned by most of the big HW vendors ...
20:23       ogra| TI, apple, intel etc etc
20:23       ogra| a company like apple will never agree on opensorcing the drivers
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20:25       ogra| nvidia has other probs that would be easily solved if they used the same concept for arm that they use for x86
20:25       ogra| but they decided not to
20:25      arune| to bad, Intel gpus works well on ubuntu normally
20:25       ogra| not poulsbo
20:25       ogra| (which is ... guess ... powervr)
20:25      arune| yes
20:25      arune| :)
20:25      bgm80| intel think different :p
20:25     scoopr| didn't someone just start an opensource driver for poulsbo (even if only 2d)?
20:26      arune| I have very little faith in open source graphics drivers which arent blessed by the supplier
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20:27      arune| blessed / supported
20:27    muromec| scoopr, that "someone" was Alan Cox ;)
20:28      bgm80| if atleast they release compiled linux drivers after payment like connexant did
20:28    gildean| speaking about apple: http://zakalwe.fi/~shd/pics/we-shall-call-it-a-mac.jpg
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20:30      bgm80| funny gildean ..they can baptize it also ac100
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20:30    gildean| bgm80: yeah, luckily i didn't pay for mine
20:31    gildean| the company i work for, got a bunch of them dirt cheap so they gave one to all of us working in the techcenter
20:31    gildean| as a christmas present
20:32   woglinde| alan cox only copied the existing stuff around
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20:38      arune| and was it really a complete open source driver or was it a wrapper for the closed driver?
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20:51        phh| [19:25:27] <ogra> nvidia has other probs that would be easily solved if they used the same concept for arm that they use for x86 <---- meh ? they use some better concept /o\
20:51        phh| no closed-source kernel stuff at all
20:53    muromec| phh, ah?
20:53        phh| muromec: you've seen any nvrm_gpu in .32 ?
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20:55    muromec| phh, nope
20:55    muromec| i even not seen it in .29
20:56        phh| .
20:56    muromec| as its closed source
20:56    muromec| i either dont know how nvrm_gpu exactly works
20:57        phh| i don't either
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20:57        phh| anyone did any progress on .32 today ?
20:59    muromec| anyone except you even interested in this?
21:00        phh| too bad i'm the only dev interested in getting things working
21:00    muromec| *getting ugly crap working
21:00        phh| edontcare ?
21:01        phh| it's the only way to have it actually working
21:01    muromec| is there any difference which one to use, .29 or .36 ?
21:01    muromec| * 29 or 32
21:01    muromec| err
21:01        phh| newer, hopefully more stable, driver
21:02        phh| and no more nvrm_gpu
21:02        phh| but that's mostly hope.
21:02         * | muromec would be happy just with sound codec and backlight on .36
21:03    muromec| hmm
21:03      bgm80| i am watching if i can plug the head to make electric shaver
21:03    muromec| phh, how new nvrm works on .32 ?
21:03        phh| what do you mean ?
21:03        phh| it's still the same thing
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21:03        phh| just not nvrm_gpu, but nvhost
21:03    muromec| ah...
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21:32        phh| yayyyyyyyyyyyy
21:32        phh| doing tests without actually flashing the kernel i've changed
21:33    gildean| how?
21:34        phh| doing mkbootimg in another folder than the one used by the nvflash's cmdline
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21:45     bigla1| what does that mean?
21:45     bigla1| doing mkbootimg in another folder than the one used by the nvflash's cmdline
21:46        phh| pwd
21:46        phh| /plop1
21:46        phh| abootimg blabla
21:46        phh| *anoter shell*
21:46        phh| nvflash --download /plop2/plop.img
21:47     bigla1| k
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22:01    muromec| phh, oh you...
22:02     bigla1| can you tell me something?
22:02        phh| bigla1: something
22:02     bigla1| xD
22:02     bigla1| why did any1 write this? By combining all current work in progress then: Sound work. 
22:02     bigla1| OpenGl ES work. 
22:02     bigla1| hdmi work. 
22:02     bigla1| Suspend work. 
22:02     bigla1| wifi leds work. 
22:02     bigla1| stability: experimental.
22:03     bigla1| how can i see opengl ES is working? how can i see audio is working?
22:03        phh| ok audio doesn't work
22:03     bigla1| how can i enable suspend?
22:03        phh| closing lid
22:03        phh| opengles, install openarena or tuxracer available on kotelett
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22:04     bigla1| how do i do that? do i need to compile it or sthg?
22:04        phh| download it
22:04        phh| extract it
22:04        phh| run it
22:05     bigla1| ok i'll ask u if i can't do any of these steps... i am so sorry being a total noob :((
22:05        phh| http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/Games/ (for a more precise url)
22:05        phh| .....
22:05        phh| even better
22:06        phh| bad initramfs
22:07    muromec| phh, why do we even need it?
22:08         * | muromec wants do drop initrd out
22:08        phh| current linux isn't meant to be booted without initramfs
22:08        phh| and initramfs != initrd
22:09    Unseen2| With a static root= parameter on the kernel command line you can boot exactly one device, an initramfs can scan multiple devices to find the root file system (or mount by label/UUID)
22:09        phh| Unseen2: iirc, kernel can scan
22:09    Unseen2| It can even drop you into a shell to figure out the problem and maybe fix it if something does go wrong
22:09    Unseen2| phh: Oh, ok. I haven't booted without an initrd/initramfs in years.
22:09    muromec| Unseen2, thanks captain!
22:10        phh| Unseen2: same here :p
22:10         * | muromec sure booted openezx without initramfs last year
22:10         * | Unseen2 would like to note that mounting by UUID/label is broken in the usual AC100 initramfs's because a library required for vol_id is missing.
22:11    muromec| *broken as usial
22:11    muromec| everything in ac100 is broken "as usial"
22:11        phh| Unseen2: ah ? I'll see that with ogra
22:12        phh| muromec: yeah
22:12        phh| including booting
22:12        phh| ah no, only on what you're working on.
22:12    Unseen2| I don't think it's important though, to use that you'd have to rebuild the initramfs first anyway
22:20     bigla1| do you guys think anything will change with ubuntu 11.04?
22:21        phh| what would change ?
22:21    muromec| mark will bring us magic
22:21     bigla1| i mean about hardware recognition of ac100?
22:21    muromec| bigla1, why it would?
22:22    muromec| all the work is done by people here on channel
22:22     bigla1| i don't know... i am just desperate about not knowing anything about linux xD
22:22    muromec| 11.04 works here
22:22    muromec| well.. not works
22:22     bigla1| yeah and i feel really honored to be in direct contact with phh ogra and all of them!!
22:22     bigla1| really!
22:23    muromec| as it need libc (core library) from 10.10
22:23    muromec| also chromium in 11.04 is nonworking
22:23    muromec| and wmii
22:23        phh| same on 10.10 -_-'
22:23    muromec| phh, what?
22:23        phh| any news concerning libc ?
22:23        phh| for chromium
22:23    muromec| phh, should you ask ogra?
22:24        phh| ogra: any news ?
22:24    muromec| phh, chromium 8 from maverick works ok
22:24    muromec| why it shouldnt?
22:25        phh| because chromium has been updated to version 10 in maverick ?
22:25    muromec| really?
22:25    muromec| in maverick-updates?
22:25        phh| better
22:25        phh| maverick-security
22:25    muromec| wow
22:25    muromec| pushing new major version via security...
22:26    muromec| not a debian way (tm)
22:26        phh| well, it's not a LTS
22:26    muromec| but its fixed release
22:27         * | muromec didnt think it even possible to do such "security updates"
22:27        phh| it's not a LTS, so they won't backport security fixes of chromium
22:27        phh| so to be safe they have to update
22:28    gildean| chromium
22:29    gildean| nice
22:29    gildean| how about ff4?
22:30    gildean| ogra said it works on his image, i couldn't get the latest build to run
22:30        phh| it works with ubuntu's image
22:31    gildean| that's okay tho, as i surely will update to natty as soon as it's available
22:31     bigla1| uhm... how can i watch h.264 videos? i mean with .mkv ending... and 720p  ?
22:32     bigla1| on the ac100 with phh's ubuntu
22:32        phh| bigla1: it depends on the quality of the mkv
22:32        phh| most of the time they are correctly encoded, so the hardware just can't
22:33    muromec| bigla1, no way
22:33     bigla1| okay ... there are no codecs to install?
22:34    muromec| 420p blows single core to 100%
22:34        phh| bigla1: it's not a matter of the codec
22:34    muromec| bigla1, its not pc here
22:34     bigla1| ah ok... i see
22:34        phh| muromec: oO
22:34    muromec| on "pc" common way to decode video is to use cpu
22:35    muromec| phh, should i say "ibm-compatible x86" ?
22:35        phh| muromec: the Oo was about the 420p part.
22:35    muromec| or "mass market win-powered computer"
22:35    muromec| ah
22:35        phh| for the pc part, i'm waiting for the end of your explanation
22:35        phh| which is already quite wrong
22:35        phh| but i think it's going to be even more wrong
22:35    muromec| ah, lol
22:36    muromec| whats wrong with 420p ?
22:36        phh| well, all 420p videos have got, can be hardware-decoded
22:36    gildean| it's actually quite common these days to use hd decoding
22:36    muromec| phh, by hardware you mean what? ;)
22:36        phh| muromec: DSP of course
22:36    gildean| gpu
22:37    muromec| hm
22:37        phh| well even software actually
22:38    muromec| i tried to play some with mplayer on fbdev xorg (not l4t)
22:38        phh| ah yeah, of course you need a proper video output driver
22:39    muromec| -vo fb is sort of proper ;)
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22:39        phh| if I wrote my omx output for mplayer, it isn't without an actual reason ...
22:39        phh| it's because it's the only proper output I could think of
22:39     bigla1| omx  ???
22:39        phh| openmax ?
22:39     bigla1| how can i use that to?
22:40     bigla1| mplayer -vo omx??
22:40        phh| http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/Multimedia/
22:40        phh| download mplayer and overlay
22:40        phh| extract overlay in /
22:40    muromec| this works on l4t only, right?
22:40        phh| and then yes, mplayer -vo omx
22:40        phh| after a chmod a+rw /dev/{,k}nv*
22:40        phh| you'll still have sound problem thouogh ...
22:40        phh| muromec: yup
22:40     bigla1| is it a problem if i already installed mplayer from the repositorys?
22:41        phh| muromec: framebuffer output should work quite fine though
22:41        phh| if properly built
22:41    muromec| bigla1, sure!
22:41    muromec| bigla1, you will have two mplayers
22:41     bigla1| ok i'm gonna uninstall it then
22:41    muromec| such a mess
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22:41    muromec| easy to mix folders
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22:43     bigla1| what should i do with the downloaded mplayer file?
22:43    muromec| run it
22:43    muromec| first chmod +x on it
22:44    muromec| then run from console
22:44     bigla1| okay thx
22:45         * | muromec should stop afterbeer flood and trolling...
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22:45        phh| wtf am i doing wrong ...
22:45    gildean| phh: ?
22:46        phh| .32 just behaves stupidly.
22:48        phh| well of course I must be doing some wrong
22:49   woglinde| hm
22:52     scoopr| maybe it was toshiba doing something wrong? =)
22:52 marvin24_D| anyone knows how to create an u-boot image?
22:52 marvin24_D| I mean something that is bootable
22:52 marvin24_D| pl9 used it in some android partition
22:53 marvin24_D| but mkbootimg wants a ramdisk
22:53 marvin24_D| :-(
22:53    Unseen2| Have you tried an empty file?
22:53    Unseen2| (random guess)
22:54 marvin24_D| mmh
22:54     bigla1| lilibjpeg.so.8: cannot open shared object file...
22:54 marvin24_D| /dev/null seemed to be empty enough
22:55        phh| install libjpeg ? :D
22:55     bigla1| xD i'll try
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22:58     bigla1| u know sometimes i wish puppy linux would work on my ac100 xDD because i wouldn't expect anything to work... that'd be just fine :DD
22:59     bigla1| u know... when i run my file with -vo omx  ... no windows pops up...
23:00     bigla1| :7
23:00     bigla1| i'll try a reboot
23:00        phh| you did the chmod cmd I told you to ?
23:01     bigla1| yeah ... this one: chmod a+rw /dev/{,k}nv*
23:02        phh| ok
23:02        phh| mplayer prnts anything on the console ?
23:03     bigla1| nope... i started it like this:
23:03     bigla1| ./mplayer /path/to/file.mkv -vo omx
23:03 marvin24_D| seems to work
23:04        phh| marvin24_DT: mkbootimg on a uboot thing ?
23:04        phh| funny
23:05 marvin24_D| it's written to part6, so ...
23:05     bigla1| but u know... htop only shows one of my 2 cpus now :D
23:05 marvin24_D| maybe not required on part4
23:05     bigla1| i'll better reboot
23:05     bigla1| aaaaaaah
23:05     bigla1| got an output from mplayer:
23:05     bigla1| failed to get the file handle for nvrm_gpu
23:06     bigla1| but the program didn't terminate yet
23:06    gildean| bigla1: it shuts the other core down when it's not needed
23:06     bigla1| it printed out another "failed to get the file handle for nvrm_gpu"
23:07     bigla1| ah nice =D
23:07     bigla1| i'll reboot the ac100 for now
23:07    gildean| so you'll have only 1 core most of the time
23:07        phh| bigla1: it's just that you need to redo the chmod.
23:08     bigla1| and it is normal for reboot not to work... right? i have to start it manually
23:08     bigla1| right?
23:08        phh| marvin24_DT: well, parttion 6 and 4 won't have the same way of working
23:08        phh| one actually inits hardware
23:08        phh| the other just loads kernels
23:08        phh| bigla1: yeah
23:08    gildean| bigla1: use sudo halt
23:08 marvin24_D| phh: it's good to have something that inits the hw
23:09     bigla1| niiiicee... he threw me to the tty
23:09 marvin24_D| I don't know if u-boot can already
23:09        phh| marvin24_DT: even if it's) closed ? :D
23:09     bigla1| login:
23:09        phh| bigla1: lolwat.
23:09    gildean| ??
23:09 marvin24_D| yeah, the 0-stage bootloader is also closed
23:09    gildean| sudo halt did that?
23:09 marvin24_D| can we cannot flash it
23:09     bigla1| i just rebooted my ac100
23:09 marvin24_D| but it works
23:09        phh| marvin24_DT: yeah well
23:09 marvin24_D| fastboot doesn't
23:09        phh| I really DON'T want to change that one :D
23:09 marvin24_D| (no dual boot, messy machine-id)
23:10     bigla1| and after trying to boot he sent me to tty login
23:10     bigla1| how can i startx?
23:10        phh| wtf have you done oO
23:10    gildean| i've never seen that one
23:10 marvin24_D| phh: I think it changes the machine id based on the kernel it loaded
23:10    gildean| didn't know that it was even possible
23:10        phh| marvin24_DT: oo
23:10     bigla1| failed to load usr lib xorg modules drivers tegra_drv.so
23:10        phh| bigla1: wtf x2
23:10     bigla1| failed to load module tegra (loader failed, 7)
23:10     bigla1| no drivers available
23:10    gildean| haha, you did the chmod wrong then
23:11     bigla1| giving up.
23:11     bigla1| then:
23:11    gildean| you changed the permissions so it can't load the file on boot
23:11    gildean| or at least it seems so
23:11     bigla1| xinit: no such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server
23:11     bigla1| xD so i fucked it up again xD
23:12    gildean| can you login from tty?
23:12     bigla1| unpack the tar gz on my usb ... boot... and then rsync the stuff to part 14 right?
23:12 >   bigla1| gildean: yeah!! i am logged in
23:12     bigla1| and executed startx
23:12     bigla1| then there were all the error messages
23:13    gildean| hm is the file tegra_drv.so still there?
23:13     bigla1| i'll check
23:13    gildean| and what permissions does it have?
23:13        phh| and wtf have you done ?
23:14     bigla1| yeah... it's there... how can i check permissions?
23:14        phh| ls -l
23:14     bigla1| phh: i simpy don't have a clue...
23:14     bigla1| thx
23:15     bigla1| -rw-r--r-- 500 500   (instead of root root)
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23:16    gildean| ah, i think i know what has happened
23:17    gildean| this happened to me too with 2.2 
23:17    gildean| all the files on the internal drive get 500 permissions
23:18    gildean| only formatting the drive helped
23:18     bigla1| the rest *.so files have root root permission
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23:18        phh| lolwat.
23:18    gildean| even if you copied a new file to the part, it had 500 permissions
23:18    gildean| and trying to change them from rooted terminal inside android didn't work
23:18     bigla1| how to change the permissions of the tegra file?
23:19    gildean| it executed the command and no change
23:19    gildean| i found that formatting the drive helped
23:20    gildean| dunno if it's the same problem
23:20    gildean| as i think my problem was that i stabbed the android too much
23:21    gildean| to the point where even factory reset didn't change the behavior with part 14
23:22     bigla1| yeah... at this point i think u need to boot ubuntu from the stick and format part 14 and rsync :D
23:22     bigla1| i forgot to mention: fatal server error: no screens found
23:25    Unseen2| Isn't the original part 14 vfat?
23:29     bigla1| http://mt4.es/ac100/   whats on this server? stuff for ubuntu?
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23:39     bigla1| did u try to search in different languages for sound hacking the ac100?
23:40     bigla1| Pour le son, j'utilise padevchooser pour balancer le son lu sur l'AC100 sur les enceintes de mon pc de bureau via le réseau local.
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23:46     bigla1| http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3961379
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00:11     bigla1| booted from usb stick... then said rsync -av / /mnt   (where /mnt is the place i mounted part 6 into)
00:11     bigla1| sounds right?
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00:12     bigla1| and / is the root of the usb stick
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00:15    Unseen2| Uh, partition 6 shouldn't have a file system?
00:16     bigla1| i formated it with gparted to ext3
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00:16     bigla1| (thats the way we did it last time -- and it worked)
00:20     bigla1| ah... phh is french guy??
00:20     bigla1| *facepalm* i didn't know that
00:21        phh| I know that does happen often, but some french guys aren't bad
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00:22     bigla1| no its not like being unfriendly
00:22     bigla1| i just didn't know
00:23     bigla1| i thought maybe there were no people trying to search in other common languages like french
00:23     bigla1| italian ... spanish etc.
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00:34   ggrandou| does anyone has the android 2.2 config.gz or should I boot my ac100 to retrieve it ?
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00:40        phh| ogra: any easy way to install an openssh server on an arm rootfs from an x86 ?
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00:41       ogra| phh, on SD ?
00:41        phh| usb key
00:41        phh| well sd card that is on a sd reader.
00:42       ogra| sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm-extras-static; sudo cp /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static <mountpoint>/usr/bin; sudo chroot <mountpoint>
00:42       ogra| mount it manually, nautilus will mess up permissions to install packages
00:43       ogra| (mounts with nodev,nosuid)
00:43        phh| ok, what I kind of what I expected
00:43        phh| just that i'm running mandriva but nvm
00:43       ogra| ouch
00:43        phh| it still exists ! :D
00:43        phh| ok, not really.
00:43       ogra| heh
00:46        phh| ogra: it's in main ?
00:47       ogra| yes
00:47       ogra| ah, no, not -extras
00:47       ogra| universe
00:48        phh| ah there is direct link on packages.ubuntu.com
00:48        phh| nvm :D
00:49       ogra| i doubt it will work with mandriva
00:49       ogra| you need to register a binfmt handler to make it work and have binfmt support in yuor kernel
00:50        phh| chroot /mnt /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static sh should do the trick :p
00:51       ogra| i dont think so .... unless you have a static busybox as sh
00:51        phh| why that ?
00:52        phh| oh fuck, alien checks dependencies :d
00:52        phh| while my rpm database is dead
00:52        phh| that's going to be fun
00:52       ogra| your linker is x86 ...
00:53        phh| and .... ?
00:53        phh| for the sh, the linker will be in /lib/ld-linux.so, which is the one in /mnt
00:53        phh| which is the arm one
00:53       ogra| well, try it
00:54       ogra| i dont think it will work
00:55        phh| root@phh-desktop /home/phh # chroot /pt /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static /bin/sh
00:55        phh| %B%F{blue}%n%b%f @ %B%F{green}%m%b%f %~ %(?..[%?] )%#
00:55        phh| I love my PS1.
00:56       dan9| hey guys, are you planning a new release of ubuntu for the ac100?
00:56        phh| there is "planning" and "planning"
00:57       ogra| libc6 is broken in natty
00:57     bigla1| dan9: i think they're trying to do their best already
00:57       ogra| (on tegra)
00:58       dan9| heh, well i was very impressed with the one already, i understand the problem is the closed-source nvidia drivers?
00:58       ogra| so for now it doesnt look like a good idea to roll an image
00:58       ogra| no, the other closed source nvidia stuff
00:58       ogra| the drivers are the smallest prob
00:59       ogra| nvidia decided to remove much of the kernel functions from the kernel and put them into a daemon ...
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01:01       dan9| the current ubuntu release has the daemon from the android system *sort of* working? i guess no documentation from nvidia on that?
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01:04        phh| ogra: ok, I actually needed binfmt, but because qemu's exec() uses exec() syscall as is
01:06        phh| Creating SSH2 RSA key; this may take some time ...PRNG is not seeded
01:06        phh| that's going to be a fun one
01:07        phh| ah no
01:07        phh| with proper /dev it's fine
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01:22     bigla1| is wetpain.com/page/sound up to date?
01:22     bigla1| *wetpaint.com
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02:49        phh| yay, network switch dead \o/
02:49        phh| anyway.
02:49        phh| .32 is a total fail
02:50        phh| toshiba's nvrm_daemon is incompatible with last L4T release (I guess they broke communication between 10.9.3 and 10.9.7 ...)
02:50        phh| so no X
02:50        phh| or omxplayer
02:50        phh| but sound works.
02:50  hengelke_| looks like a braille terminal would come in handy.
02:50     bigla1| xD
02:51     bigla1| uhmm... isnt there already an 11.2  ??
02:51     bigla1| http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=summary
02:51     bigla1| or is this something absolutely different?
02:51        phh| yes but no but yes ;)
02:52        phh| i'm expecting this kernel to be for chrome os
02:52        phh| but still, there is just no userland release of this version
02:52        phh| we've got only kernel
02:53        phh| which is not really useful
02:53     bigla1| and another question... why is there a L4T folder in the root of your SD-Card fs  (Ubuntu5.tar.lzma)
02:53     bigla1| ah understand
02:53     bigla1| is this normal?
02:53        phh| the X driver is only available for really old X server
02:53        phh| like ubuntu 9.04
02:53        phh| so /L4T is a "tiny" ubuntu 9.04
02:53        phh| and I use its X
02:54  hengelke_| now that's a hack. very nice.
02:55        phh| would anyone mind asking a L4T release for 10.9.7 on nvidia's forum ? :D
02:55        phh| just in case ...
02:55     bigla1| but as often as i try to boot from my sd card it stops... something about IRQs etc...
02:56  hengelke_| phh: i'll put that on my list of fake enquiries for tomorrow
02:56  hengelke_| just add some details and i'll maybe reactivate my half-nonexistent but 100% inactive nvidia account
02:58        phh| details ? like what ?
02:59        phh| Fetched 13.7MB in 1s (9898kB/s)
02:59        phh| it's always nice to see that
02:59  hengelke_| 100 mbit internet is awesome, yeah
02:59        phh| (no, not a local mirror.)
02:59  hengelke_| i'll have that next month when i'm moving back into a university dorm
02:59  hengelke_| kinda looking forward to that
02:59        phh| so downloading was really fast
02:59        phh| now extracting
02:59        phh| on ext3.
03:00        phh| "not exactly" the same speed :D
03:00     bigla1| phh: what are u doing? testing your own Ubuntu5.tar.lzma?
03:00        phh| testing .32 with L4T 10.9.3
03:01     bigla1| mkay
03:03     bigla1| is it bad if i get that fail while booting? could not load lib/modules/2.6.29-arm2-ac100/modules.dep: no such file or directory?
03:03        phh| no it's fine
03:03     bigla1| :DD
03:04     bigla1| last thing he says before doing nothing is: dfs requested cpu1 off
03:04     bigla1| and... one line before: nvrm_gpu: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
03:04     bigla1| ^^
03:07        phh| it's ""normal""
03:07     bigla1| =D
03:08     bigla1| so in essence you're telling me what i already know all to well: i am too dumb to extract a rootfs to a sd-card and boot from it...
03:08     bigla1| *sigh*
03:09     bigla1| :(
03:10        phh| you did use tar xf bla --numeric-owner ?
03:11     bigla1| i used this: sudo tar xavf Ubuntu5.tar.lzma --numeric-owner -C /mnt
03:11     bigla1| with the right paths
03:14        phh| funny
03:17     bigla1| card is formatted in ext3
03:17        phh| how the hell do we reboot a switch on which we've lost all remote control, and that is 20minutes away ? :D
03:17    gildean| call the power company
03:17        phh| haha
03:18  hengelke_| investing 40 minutes
03:18  hengelke_| ok, not at this time of day i'll admit
03:19        phh| :p
03:20        phh| not mentioning that i'd like to get logs
03:20        phh| that the room is at ~ 15°C
03:20        phh| that I need to find an configure a serial port
03:21  hengelke_| so the solution would be: find someone else to do that? :)
03:22        phh| look at the time ? :D
03:22     bigla1| i'm from upper austria
03:22     bigla1| so its too far away i think
03:22        phh| there is just one guy that is still up.
03:22        phh| he is with his girlfriend.
03:23     bigla1| poor boy...
03:23     bigla1| you could help him about that situation
03:23     bigla1| so tell him about his new job :)
03:23  hengelke_| so if he is interested in having working ethernet from that switch ...
03:24  hengelke_| "girlfriend" or "100 mbit internet" should be an easy decision.
03:25     bigla1| i think so too
03:25        phh| (that switch is needed for the whole building's internet connection)
03:26  hengelke_| get that guy up already.
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03:57     bigla1| did he go to turn the switch on again??
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15:26 Guest23694| how i could install ubuntu on my ac100-10d?
15:26 Guest23694| it's possible?
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16:04 >    arune| gildean: yes, see topic?
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16:28    muromec| 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 0f 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 e5 ff ff ff
16:28    muromec| guess where is checksum here
16:28    muromec| and how its computed
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16:29    muromec| and other example: 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 28 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 c9 ff ff ff
16:29    muromec| phh, wanna some quiz?
16:38   ggrandou| where does this come from ?
16:40    muromec| ggrandou, dump of usb traffic
16:40    muromec| when running nvflash
16:41   ggrandou| seems to be 32bit word aligned
16:41   ggrandou| little endian
16:42    muromec| eah
16:42   ggrandou| and hex(sum(words)^-1) == 0xffffffe3
16:42   ggrandou| which is almost e5 ;)
16:42   ggrandou| I should have made a typo somewhere
16:43    muromec| first 01 not checksummed
16:44   ggrandou| so it match
16:45   ggrandou| checksum == -1 ^ (sum(data[2]..data[n-1]))
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16:45   ggrandou| too easy :p
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17:04      arune| muromec: are you reverse engineering nvflash?
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17:04    muromec| arune, sort of
17:05      arune| cool
17:06    muromec| i doubt if i really should do this
17:06    muromec| as fastboot looks like generic android tool
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17:20 marvin24_D| muromec: fastboot refers to some standard protocol
17:21    muromec| eah
17:21 marvin24_D| nvidia just named the program the same way
17:24 marvin24_D| muromec: some other topic, would it be ok to return something else (not 0) in the notifier chains?
17:24 marvin24_D| something like NOTIFIER_{DONE,STOP,OK}
17:25 marvin24_D| I want to attach a notifier to the end of the list to report something which is not handled
17:26    muromec| marvin24_DT, yep, something from this
17:26    muromec| not sure which one
17:27 marvin24_D| STOP if the event is handled
17:28 marvin24_D| or OK?
17:28 marvin24_D| docu isn't very clear
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17:32 marvin24_D| NOTIFY_STOP if the event is handled, NOTIFY_DONE if we didn't care about, NOTIFY_OK if we cared, but want the rest of the chain to be continued
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17:37    muromec| marvin24_DT, STOP i think
17:37    muromec| easy to check notifier sources
17:37 marvin24_D| well, it depends
17:38 marvin24_D| http://book.chinaunix.net/special/ebook/oreilly/Understanding_Linux_Network_Internals/0596002556/understandlni-CHP-4-SECT-5.html
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17:38 marvin24_D| btw, http://mobrepair.ru/files/Computers/Notebooks/Datasheet/IC/KB926D-ds-11.pdf ;-)
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19:20      dario| phh's ubuntu image ... what kernel src is used for it ?
19:22      dario| the ones from the toshiba archive on kotelett.no/ac100 ?
19:22      dario| what about the nvrm_gpu module loading hack ?
19:25 marvin24_D| dario: http://gitorious.org/ac100
19:34      dario| how far off that are ggrandou-kernel/yours/roberts-kernel ?
19:36 marvin24_D| I think ggrandou attempt to clean up the code to make it more readable
19:36 marvin24_D| mine is totally different (+ not usefull for normal users)
19:36 marvin24_D| donno about roberts
19:37      dario| how is yours different ? is that the .32 one ?
19:38      dario| ah, .36 even
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23:00    Unseen2| Interesting, my AC100 has started swapping like mad - nm-applet is at 386MB, gnome-panel 106MB, gome-power-manager 303MB
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01:05      bigla| is there any expirience with this rootfs? linaro-n-ubuntu-desktop-tar-20110302-1.tar
01:05      bigla| it hangs at modem manager somehow
01:06      bigla| i mean... it won't start x
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03:03      bigla| does anyone have a natty rootfs ?
03:10      bigla| or a ubuntu with xfce
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12:41       p3m_| hey can some point out if i am doing something wrong
12:42       p3m_| because the ac100 will not boot ubuntu from the internal ssd
12:42    Unseen2| Did you update to Android 2.2 before?
12:42       p3m_| no
12:42    Unseen2| Good
12:42       p3m_| hehe yes i heard about that
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12:43       p3m_| i put the kernel boot image on partition 6
12:43    Unseen2| Which one and where is the root fs?
12:43       p3m_| when it boots there are a lot of error messages
12:43       p3m_| the storage partition
12:44       p3m_| i followed this instruction: http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/phh-install.txt
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12:45    Unseen2| IIRC the boot.img from phh doesn't have the command line parameter for setting up the internal storage partitions, so it probably won't see your rootfs
12:45       p3m_| i used an other boot.img
12:45       p3m_| wait a second
12:46       p3m_| http://ac100.gudinna.com/internal/ac100-10V-8GB/
12:46       p3m_| this one
12:46       p3m_| so the funny thing is, it worked with the fedora-arm rootfs
12:47    Unseen2| Sorry, no idea right now
12:47       p3m_| ok thanks
12:47 CarolusMag| I have installed phh's mplayer and now the sound doesn't work any more. Is this a known problem?
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12:52 elofturtle| a general question: I can make a backup from a partition, but whenever I try to flash the new boot loader onto the machine, nvflash will do nothing until force-beak. Any thoughts?
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12:55    gildean| CarolusMagnus: sound doesn't work
12:56    gildean| elofturtle: you ran it as root?
12:56 Strogino5_| Hello all. Anybody got ADHoc WIFI at AC100? I explored a few, got patched wpa_supplicant v0.6.10 but without success.
12:56    gildean| elofturtle: and only sent the bootloader once in a sessios?
12:57 elofturtle| yes, I ran as root. And I think I only sent it once (last try was a few days ago). Should it be giving an error message of some kind, usually?
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12:58    Unseen2| elofturtle: Writing to partition 2 or 4? That seems to work only with --rawdevicewrite and the correct sector numbers for me
12:59    gildean| did you reboot the ac100 after taking backup+
12:59    gildean| ?
13:00    gildean| elofturtle: what partitions are you trying to flash?
13:01 elofturtle| No I did not reboot it, and I was trying to follow the instructions found n the wetpaint forum. I believe I tried partition 4, and later 6. I've got the 10D (D10?) model.
13:01    gildean| did you update to 2.2+
13:02    gildean| hmm, my shift doesn't work
13:03 elofturtle| Unfortunatley I have to do this by live-cd, so I haven't got the machine on right now, but before I tried this the original OS had been fully updated...
13:03    gildean| so you have android 2.2
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13:03    gildean| which doesn't support dualboot atm
13:04 elofturtle| Any way to reverse?
13:04    gildean| so first you have to flash at least partitions 2 and 4
13:04    gildean| yes, you can find the full backup from http://ac100.tunk.org
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13:05    gildean| and use rawwrite on those partitions
13:06    gildean| that will give you ubuntu bootability, but android won't work unless you also revert back the other partitions
13:07 elofturtle| Sounds fantastic - the nadroid OS is pretty useless on a laptop so far :) I'll give this a new try tonight!
13:07    gildean| you can find a more comprehensive how-to from the url above
13:08 elofturtle| (and apparently I'm keyboard dyslectic :-/)
13:08 elofturtle| Thank you so much for your time :)
13:08    gildean| np
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13:09 >CarolusMa| gildean: Was the mplayer the reason, why there is no sound or was this only a coincidence. Sound has worked before (sometimes)
13:09    gildean| CarolusMagnus: yeah, the sound just doesn't want to work
13:09    gildean| you can disable pulseaudio
13:10 CarolusMag| How?
13:11    gildean| either just uninstall it, or mv pulseaudio to pulseaudio.old for example
13:12    gildean| as in mv /usr/bin/pulseaudio /usr/bin/pulseaudio.old
13:12    gildean| with sudo
13:15 CarolusMag| OK, what exact effect will this have? I'm not an expert for linux audio things.
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--- Log opened Sun Mar 20 13:46:16 2011
13:48   >>> yoyo!~yoyo@c20-97.icpnet.pl
13:48 < yoyo> hi
13:49 < bigla> hi
13:53 < bigla> is it right i cant extract ubuntu5.tar.lzma to my sd card and boot it? (a bootloader is already installed)
13:54 < gildean> ?
13:55   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
13:55 < bigla> i want to reinstall my already working ubuntu... and for that i exctracted phh's ubuntu5.tar.lzma to sdcard and usbstick
13:56 < bigla> when i tried to boot from sdcard it didn't work...
13:57 < gildean> did you also include the modules?
13:57 < bigla> oops.... i'll try that first
13:57 < gildean> bigla: this how-to should have the commands you need: http://ac100.tunk.org/wiki/phh
14:05   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
14:09 < bigla> but it shouldn't matter if i use ext3 instead of nilfs, right?
14:11 < gildean> i don't think so
14:12 < gildean> but nilfs is faster
14:12 < gildean> noticeably
14:13 < bigla> okay... then i'll start over with the whole howto - if the now created sd card (with extracted ubuntu5.tar.lzma & modules) won't boot
14:14 < bigla> ok... it says: Fatal: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.29-arm2-ac100/modules.dep: no such file or directory
14:14 < bigla> /etc/rc.local: 14: /button: not found
14:15 < bigla> nvrm_gpu: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
14:15 < Unseen2> /button is normal, it's a bug in the rootfs. Just change it to /usr/sbin/button.
14:15   >>> lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1
14:15   <   lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1 [Changing host]
14:15   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
14:15 < gildean> it's noted in the how-to
14:15 < bigla> juppp --- but i should be at least able to boot up the system, right?
14:15 < Unseen2> Maybe...
14:15 < bigla> it says something like: irq53 no longer affine to cpu1
14:16 < gildean> what's it saying now?
14:16 < gildean> it takes a while to boot
14:16 < bigla> and something like could not open display
14:16 < bigla> assertion gdk is screen (screen) failed
14:17 < gildean> ?
14:18 < bigla> the last thing he says is: DFS requested CPU1 OFF
14:18 < gildean> that's normal
14:18 < yoyo> if you can't load modules there is no display :)
14:19 < Unseen2> Are you sure the modules you extracted are the ones for the kernel you're booting?
14:19 < gildean> and that you extracted the modules in the root of your sd-card?
14:19 < bigla> i used the two files in this howto:http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
14:19 < bigla> jup
14:21 < gildean> umounted the card correctly before ejecting it?
14:21 < bigla> sync and then umount yeah
14:21   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Remote host closed the connection]
14:22 < gildean> i would suggest starting from the beginning 
14:23 < gildean> it doesn't take long, and if you remember to install nilfs-tools to your ac100 afterwards, it'll work better
14:23 < bigla> you know whats strange? when i use tegra-rootfs.tgz with modules  --> it works flawlessly!
14:23 < gildean> then you're using the wrong boot.img for phh's ubuntu
14:24 < bigla> which one should i use? tegra-2.6.29-arm2-ac100-internal-boot ?
14:24 < bigla> i have ac100-10v
14:24 < gildean> use the boot.img in the how-to to boot phh's ubuntu
14:24 < bigla> okay... then i'll start all over :)
14:26   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
14:26 < bigla> but i think this boot_img is the one i used!
14:26 < bigla> ah... nvm --- i'll try from the start
14:41   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:42   <   kottt-ac100!~android@host-122-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
14:42 < bigla> step 11.
14:43   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
14:43 < bigla> when i flash part 6 --- can i boot from an usb key if i press home on reboot?
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14:47   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
14:53   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:53   >>> lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1
14:53   <   lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1 [Changing host]
14:53   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
14:56 < gildean> bigla: if you have a different boot.img on part 5, then yes
14:56 < bigla> ok
14:58 < lenios> hi there
15:03 < bigla> ok... i have to disconnect for a min... i'll be back :D
15:07   <   bigla!~bigla@a-83.vc-graz.ac.at [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
15:11   >>> stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-16-222.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr
15:17   >>> bigla!~bigla@e-4.vc-graz.ac.at
15:17 < bigla> re
15:20   >>> muromec!~muromec@212-178-22-116.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua
15:20 < muromec> hi all
15:20 < bigla> hi
15:20 < muromec> fyi: just now successfully loaded fastboot without nvflash
15:24 < muromec> here is the code: https://github.com/muromec/putusb
15:24   <   muromec!~muromec@212-178-22-116.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua []
15:28   >>> xujianbo!~xujianbo@49.140.88.20
15:29   <   Strogino5_!b28c2998@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.140.41.152 [Quit: Page closed]
15:29   >>> kottt!~kottt@host-45-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
15:30   >>> Strogino5!b28c2998@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.140.41.152
15:30 < Strogino5> join #ac100-ru
15:30 < phh> fail.
15:31   >>> martin_!~martin@78-105-160-133.zone3.bethere.co.uk
15:32   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
15:34 < bigla> xD
15:37 < bigla> "sudo mkfs -t nilfs2 /mnt/blabla" is this for formatting ?
15:37 < phh> urd
15:39 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net
15:39 >>> Topic set by phh ~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Wed Mar 16 19:25:58 2011]
15:39   >>> turbo_!~turbo@e177216105.adsl.alicedsl.de
15:41   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
15:42 < bigla> phh: urd?
15:42 < phh> I think that was a yes
15:42 < Snark> simple translation on an azerty keyboard
15:42 < phh> double translation
15:42 < Snark> some sort of Caesar cypher
15:43 < phh> both translation in the opposite way
15:43 < phh> which is funny.
15:43 < bigla> :DD
15:43 < bigla> i see
15:43 < Eruquen> are there any power savings to be gained from setting the cpu frequency to something less than 1GHz?
15:43   >>> hectorvector!~hectorvec@softbank220033228024.bbtec.net
15:43 < gildean> phh: as there seems to be no public log, i started loggin last monday and put the open log to: http://ac100.tunk.org/ac100log.txt
15:43 < phh> gildean: it's updated in real time ?
15:43 < gildean> it's open as in updates real time
15:43 < phh> Eruquen: theorically, no
15:43 < phh> gildean: no
15:43 < phh> ok*
15:44 < Eruquen> too bad
15:44 < phh> gildean: you need to add a "little" logfile
15:44 < phh> the log is becoming huge fast.
15:44   ChanServ sets +o phh
15:44   >>> topic changed by phh: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/ac100log.txt
15:44   phh sets -o phh
15:44 < gildean> hmm, i can rotate the logfile automatically
15:45 < gildean> a ne log for each day for example
15:45 < gildean> *new
15:45 < phh> i'd rather say a week
15:47 < gildean> irssi has a great logging system inbuilt
15:47   <   xujianbo!~xujianbo@49.140.88.20 [Quit: 暂离]
15:50   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.10.248
15:57   <   turbo_!~turbo@e177216105.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
16:02   <   kottt!~kottt@host-45-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
16:05 < gildean> phh: ok, weekly rotated logs are now in: http://ac100.tunk.org/logs
16:05 < bigla> do i have to use a different boot.img to boot from part 14?
16:06 < phh> no but yes
16:06 < bigla> http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/2011-01-16/boot.img
16:07 < bigla> i am using this now...
16:07 < phh> it depends on which android version you're using
16:07 < bigla> i have backups for both
16:07 < bigla> but... i am using 2.2 for now
16:07 < phh> well, 2.2 won't work for along time :D
16:07 < phh> but there are two 2.1 versions actually
16:07   >>> kottt!~kottt@host-45-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
16:08 < bigla> but i had 2.2 working and then installed ubuntu after writing the backups from sdy else to my ac100
16:08 < bigla> i am writing too confusing
16:08 < bigla> :((
16:18   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.10.248 []
16:18 < bigla> i am flashing back to 2.1
16:18 < bigla> then i'll start over again ... 3rd time today :D
16:25 < lenios> phh, i remember the time you said "sources released time + 30 min max." :D
16:35 < bigla> Internal setupInstalling on the internal emmc works the same way.
16:35 < bigla> Just use usb and androids usb-file sharing to connect the ac100 partition 14 to your linux-machine and don't create a new partition, just format it and follow instructions above.
16:35 < bigla> this is not true
16:36 < bigla> what bootloader should i use and to which partition i have to write it? (i have an ac100-10V
16:38 < bigla> fyi: now i have android 2.1
16:48   >>> lc_!~lc@80.251.113.51
16:48 < bigla> no answers?
16:50 < arune> sorry, I use SD-card
17:01 < bigla> http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/2011-01-16/kernel.txt says: The boot.img can be flashed on either rescue partition (5) or standard partition (6). It should be able to boot from internal eMMC on any AC100.
17:01 < bigla> but where do i have to install ubuntu to in the emmc to have it boot?
17:02   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Remote host closed the connection]
17:04   <   kottt!~kottt@host-45-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
17:10   >>> kottt!~kottt@95-24-131-162.broadband.corbina.ru
17:11   ~ kottt is now kottt-ac
17:11   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95-24-131-162.broadband.corbina.ru
17:12   <   kottt-ac!~kottt@95-24-131-162.broadband.corbina.ru []
17:13   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121
17:17 < marvin24_DT> bigla: the bootloader sits in part4, so don't need to touch it
17:17 < marvin24_DT> (except you are downgrading)
17:17 < marvin24_DT> the kernel is in part5 (sos kernel) or part6 (normal boot)
17:25 < bigla> ah ok...
17:26 < bigla> and which bootimage do i need to put there to make phh's version boot from part 14 on emmc?
17:30   <   lc_!~lc@80.251.113.51 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
17:32 < gildean> bigla: i gave you the link to the how-to, the same boot.img goes and either part 5 or 6, either one should be fine
17:33   >>> lc_!~lc@80.251.113.51
17:35   >>> lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1
17:35   <   lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1 [Changing host]
17:35   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
17:38 < bigla> yeah i tried that, but it didnt work out for me for an internal install
17:52   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:58   <   bigla!~bigla@e-4.vc-graz.ac.at [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:09   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:10   >>> Incred!~dmitry@94.50.46.145
18:15   >>> hengelke_!~hengelke@p5B03BB82.dip.t-dialin.net
18:18   <   hengelke!~hengelke@p5B03C764.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
18:19   >>> bigla!~bigla@e-191.vc-graz.ac.at
18:19   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:22   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B23D.dip.t-dialin.net
18:22   <   stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-16-222.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
18:25   <   stenzel__!~stenzel@p5DC6BC9F.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
18:35   >>> stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-85-194.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr
18:41   >>> ramana!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
18:45   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
18:49   <   ramana!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303171539]]
18:51   <   lc_!~lc@80.251.113.51 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:58   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host117-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
19:05 < bigla> what can i do if i screwed up my part14?
19:08 < lenios> restore it with android restoration
19:08 < bigla> with recovery stuff? - doesn't work...
19:08 < lenios> what doesn't work?
19:08 < bigla> and in android it shows there is 0.0 space
19:08 < bigla> lenios: what do u mean by restore?
19:08 < bigla> i have no backup from part-14
19:08   ~ kottt is now kottt_afk
19:09 < lenios> boot partition 5, get to the rescue menu
19:09 < lenios> and select restore to factory state
19:09 < lenios> or whatever it's called
19:09 < bigla> lenios: i did that... but part 14 didnt change ... in android i wasnt able to create a folder
19:10   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225005149.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:10 < lenios> can you mount it on another pc?
19:10 < lenios> with usb share enabled
19:10 < bigla> nope... thats the problem
19:11 < lenios> can you boot on sd?
19:11 < bigla> yes ... but last time i tried ubuntu said the memory on the emmc was unallocated
19:14 < bigla> can i create a fake image of part-14?
19:15 < lenios> maybe
19:15 < bigla> but how?
19:16 < lenios> dd if=/dev/zero of=file.img bs=1M count=(number of MB)
19:17 < bigla> how many mb is it?
19:17 < bigla> PartitionId=14
19:17 < bigla> Name=UDB
19:17 < bigla> DeviceId=18
19:17 < bigla> StartSector=1002240
19:17 < bigla> NumSectors=2905344
19:17 < bigla> BytesPerSector=2048
19:17 < bigla> i have 10V
19:18   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
19:18 < lenios> that's dd if=/dev/zero of=file.img bs=2K count=2905344
19:24 < bigla> this is going to take a lot of time :D
19:32   <   ktro!~tro@as69-215.tontut.fi [Remote host closed the connection]
19:38 < bigla> does anyone have a backup of partition 14 for the ac100-10V? just in case...
19:43   >>> ktro!~tro@as69-215.tontut.fi
19:47 < bigla> lenios: can i mount the fake file and format it to ext3 or something?
19:49   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:50   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
19:50   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:53 < bigla> no ned
19:53 < bigla> no need
19:53 < bigla> lenios: its working thanks!!
19:56   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
19:56   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:56   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
20:03   >>> o6xcc_!~o6xcc@nat-210-39.etelecom.ru
20:04   <   o6xcc_!~o6xcc@nat-210-39.etelecom.ru [Client Quit]
20:07   >>> pl9!~pl9@mx306-1-88-173-33-31.fbx.proxad.net
20:09   <   pl9!~pl9@mx306-1-88-173-33-31.fbx.proxad.net []
20:17   <   martin_!~martin@78-105-160-133.zone3.bethere.co.uk [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20:19   <   kml!~kml@subseo.pl [Quit: brb]
20:20   >>> kml!~kml@subseo.pl
20:25   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@mek33-1-82-66-31-175.fbx.proxad.net [Quit: Quitte]
20:26   >>> bigla1!~bigla@a-97.vc-graz.ac.at
20:27   <   bigla!~bigla@e-191.vc-graz.ac.at [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20:50   >>> phh_!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
20:51   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:55   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20:57   <   yoyo!~yoyo@c20-97.icpnet.pl [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20:57   >>> alter2!~kvirc@188.232.153.38
20:59 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/ac100log.txt
20:59 >>> Topic set by phh ~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Sun Mar 20 15:44:41 2011]
21:03   >>> flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81
21:07 < gildean> phh_: have you had any time to work on the newer kernel?
21:08   <   flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
21:08 < bigla1> boot.img is bigger now... what are changes?
21:08 < bigla1> (i mean the boot.img of phh)
21:09 < bigla1> false information sorry
21:12   >>> flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81
21:12   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@mek33-1-82-66-31-175.fbx.proxad.net
--- Log closed Sun Mar 20 21:14:42 2011
--- Log opened Sun Mar 20 21:14:42 2011
21:14   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
--- Log closed Sun Mar 20 21:22:09 2011
--- Log opened Sun Mar 20 21:22:09 2011
21:24 < bigla1> ok.... i can't install phh's ubuntu internally
21:24 < bigla1> i tried everything!
21:25 < bigla1> now its saying: can't access tty: job control turned off
21:26   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
21:26 < gildean> bigla1: then you need the other boot.img
21:26 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/ac100log.txt
21:26 >>> Topic set by phh ~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Sun Mar 20 15:44:41 2011]
21:27 < gildean> plop. img is here: http://share1t.com/mkldor
21:29 < bigla1> is this the boot imag which checks for /sbin/init on the right partition (mmcblk0p6) ?
21:29 < gildean> they both do, this one iirc is ment for specific models
21:30   >>> sousa!~sousa@sal63-1-89-89-241-26.dsl.club-internet.fr
21:30 < bigla1> and i have to download it on 5 or 6?
21:30 < gildean> which ever
21:30 < gildean> either should work
21:31 < gildean> with part 5, you can still have android as backup
21:32 < bigla1> ubuntu 10.10 localhost.localdomain tty1
21:32 < bigla1> localhost.localdomain login:
21:32 < bigla1> away again
21:32 < bigla1> wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it works!!! :DD  finaaaalllyyyy
21:33 < gildean> lol
21:35 < bigla1> is it a problem i installed it on ext3 because formatting partition 6 with nilfs2 didn't work for me
21:36 < gildean> shouldn't be any problem
21:36 < gildean> it's just slower
21:36 < gildean> i think someone talked about disbling journal and something else to make it faster
21:37 < bigla1> how can i do that?
21:37 < gildean> dunno, use google
21:37 < bigla1> okay :)
21:39 < bigla1> in essence they say ext3 without journaling is ext2
21:40   >>> hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
21:40 < bigla1> for the log: We can disable journaling (i.e convert EXT3 to EXT2) using tune2fs command.tune2fs -O^has_journal /dev/xdy
21:42   <   o6xcc!53f3478c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.243.71.140 [Quit: Page closed]
21:53 < gildean> bigla1: afaik ext3 without journaling != ext2
21:56   <   bigla1!~bigla@a-97.vc-graz.ac.at [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:57   >>> bigla!~bigla@a-206.vc-graz.ac.at
21:59   >>> bgm80!~yaaic@87.13.64.22
22:04   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 []
22:05   >>> martin_!~martin@78-105-160-133.zone3.bethere.co.uk
22:06   <   bigla!~bigla@a-206.vc-graz.ac.at [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
22:15   <   kottt_afk!~Anton_Sel@95-24-131-162.broadband.corbina.ru [Quit: Leaving.]
22:15   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95-24-131-162.broadband.corbina.ru
22:20   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95-24-131-162.broadband.corbina.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
22:31   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
22:33   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
22:37   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
22:38   >>> bigla!~bigla@e-200.vc-graz.ac.at
22:45   <   ktro!~tro@as69-215.tontut.fi [Remote host closed the connection]
22:45   <   Guest23759!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Read error: Operation timed out]
22:47   <   Lebedev!~user@195.234.110.195 ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"]
22:49   ~ phh_ is now phh
22:50 < phh> gildean: yup. it's a total fial.
22:50 < phh> fail*
22:52 < gildean> nice
22:52 < gildean> http://i.imgur.com/NjFrU.png
22:57 < bigla> gildean: ymmd :DD
23:03   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
23:06   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95-24-131-162.broadband.corbina.ru
23:09   <   bigla!~bigla@e-200.vc-graz.ac.at [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
23:12   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225005149.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
23:13   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B23D.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
23:13   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052229189.adsl.alicedsl.de
23:16   >>> bigla!~bigla@e-14.vc-graz.ac.at
23:26   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B23D.dip.t-dialin.net
23:32   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
23:33   ~ Zaek is now Isakk
23:41   <   moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102 [Quit: Page closed]
23:41   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
23:42   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051015169.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
23:46   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:50   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052229189.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zeapp]
23:51   <   hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no []
23:53   <   Strogino5!b28c2998@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.140.41.152 [Quit: Page closed]
--- Day changed Mon Mar 21 2011
00:00 < bigla> how did you guys solve the shutdown problme?
00:02 < scoopr> which problem?
00:05 < bigla> when pressing the shutdown button in the gui it doesn't shut down but just log me out
00:05 < gildean> use sudo halt
00:06 < scoopr> halt doesn't always halt for me, so I reboot (which doesn't work as reboot, but does shutdown)
00:08 < bigla> can i bind it somehow to this button in the gui?
00:08 < bigla> ah... i could choose reboot
00:13 < bigla> everytime i plug in a usb stick it says "Failed to mount -- Not Authorized"
00:13   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@mek33-1-82-66-31-175.fbx.proxad.net [Quit: Quitte]
00:15 < bigla> is there any group i could add my username to, to gain mount-rights?
00:19   >>> turbo_!~turbo@e177217040.adsl.alicedsl.de
00:28   <   turbo_!~turbo@e177217040.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Bye]
00:37   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Remote host closed the connection]
00:54   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B528D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:06   <   sousa!~sousa@sal63-1-89-89-241-26.dsl.club-internet.fr [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
01:13   >>> maxjezy!~nik@unaffiliated/maxjezy
01:13 < maxjezy> hello
01:13 < maxjezy> i was thinking of getting me a ac100
01:13 < maxjezy> is it good with ubuntu?
01:13 < maxjezy> nvidia, is there a good 3D support?
01:16 < Unseen2> What do you want to do with it?
01:16   <   ojn!ojn@mail.lixom.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
01:16   >>> ojn!ojn@mail.lixom.net
01:17 < maxjezy> watch videos
01:18 < maxjezy> and maby some blender 3D
01:18 < maxjezy> if the grafics are great
01:19 < Unseen2> You do know that the CPU is noticably slower than even the lowest-end Atom?
01:21 < maxjezy> okey
01:22 < maxjezy> i'm on a atomprocessor right now
01:22 < maxjezy> on my 10.1" samsung
01:26   <   stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-85-194.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
01:28   >>> ZoX_!d9805104@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.128.81.4
01:33   >>> dl9pf_!~quassel@p5B214C82.dip.t-dialin.net
01:34   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
01:40   <   bigla!~bigla@e-14.vc-graz.ac.at [Quit: Leaving.]
01:49   >>> AndroUser!~androirc@89.112.7.20.pppoe.eltel.net
01:53   <   ZoX_!d9805104@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.128.81.4 [Quit: Page closed]
01:57   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
01:58   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121
01:58   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121 [Client Quit]
01:58   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121
02:00   >>> bigla!~bigla@78.104.81.164
02:01 < bigla> is there any more lightweight window manager than gnome available?
02:02 < bigla> or can i install xfce somehow?
02:22   <   bigla!~bigla@78.104.81.164 [Quit: Leaving.]
02:38   <   AndroUser!~androirc@89.112.7.20.pppoe.eltel.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:47   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host117-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
03:17   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
03:20   <   martin_!~martin@78-105-160-133.zone3.bethere.co.uk [Quit: Leaving]
04:21   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95-24-131-162.broadband.corbina.ru []
04:33   <   lanthan_!~ze@p54B7F95B.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat]
04:35   <   bgm80!~yaaic@87.13.64.22 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
04:55   <   Isakk!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net []
07:34   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
07:35   <   Incred!~dmitry@94.50.46.145 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
07:51   >>> Incred!~dmitry@188.17.10.131
07:54   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Quit: Leaving.]
07:54   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
08:24   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@213.138.89.213
08:25   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
08:26   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
08:28   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
08:36   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121
08:38   >>> o6xcc!539503cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.149.3.207
08:39   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:40   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
08:43   <   kalemas!~kalemas@213.138.89.213 []
08:56   >>> Belna!~Thomas@DSL01.212.114.252.242.ip-pool.NEFkom.net
09:02   <   o6xcc!539503cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.149.3.207 []
09:05   >>> struger!~user@217.69.221.99
09:12   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Remote host closed the connection]
09:14   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
09:23   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:48   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B23D.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
09:50   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
10:06   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
10:13   >>> moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3
10:14 < bmw> Hi, where i can read about build cross compilation environment for ac100?
10:20   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Remote host closed the connection]
10:24   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:28 < marvin24> bmw: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
10:28 < struger> bwm: i have not done it, but as i know you might use android toolchain to compile the kernel http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/Kernel+compilation and cross toolchain from distro that you use (buildroot, ubuntu, gentoo etc)
10:31 < bmw> thanks! (:
10:33 < bmw> I try build helloword with gcc-4.4-arm, but binary crashed in device. :|
10:42   >>> woglinde!~henning@p5DDC0992.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:06 < woglinde> hm flashplayer 10.2 offical released
11:07 < woglinde> with hw decoding and smp support
11:07 < woglinde> for android
11:08   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Quit: Quitte]
11:13   >>> ramana!~chatzilla@fw-unat.cambridge.arm.com
11:31   <   hectorvector!~hectorvec@softbank220033228024.bbtec.net [Remote host closed the connection]
11:45   >>> kottt-ac100!~android@host-89-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
11:46 < bmw> in abootimage what is the key -r <ramdisk>?
11:54   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-rcufwdxeeurvqaxd
11:55 < woglinde> ?
11:55 < woglinde> the inited
11:55 < woglinde> ups initrd
11:58   >>> gipIt!~Miranda@host217-137-static.43-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
11:58 < gipIt> hi
12:00 < gipIt> some news about Android 2.2, bootloader and Ubuntu?
12:01   >>> AndIrc!~android@host-52-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
12:02   <   kottt-ac100!~android@host-89-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
12:02   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B5196D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:03 < bmw> woglinde, i compiled the kernel, how can I get the initrd?
12:05 < woglinde> gipIt not really
12:05 < woglinde> bmw which initrd do you want?
12:05 < woglinde> android uuntu?
12:06 < bmw> ubuntu
12:06 < woglinde> use abootimage to extract it from the partition
12:08   <   ramana!~chatzilla@fw-unat.cambridge.arm.com [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
12:08 < bmw> but new kernel is 2.6.36, kernel from image is 2.6.29
12:09 < bmw> this is not a fatal?
12:12 < gipIt> woglinde : thx... some
12:12 < woglinde> bmw what?
12:13 < woglinde> bmw .36 has problems with emmc and usb
12:13 < marvin24> woglinde: ?
12:13 < marvin24> no problems here
12:14 < woglinde> marvin is it working now?
12:14 < woglinde> okay
12:14 < woglinde> my last info from you was there are some problems
12:14 < woglinde> and didnt reallys see that the latest commits fixes that
12:16 < scoopr> is the .36 inching towards usable state already?
12:16 < bmw> woglinde, extract from which partition?
12:17   ~ AndIrc is now kottt-ac100
12:18 < bmw> tegra-2.6.29-arm2-ac100-boot.img?
12:18 < woglinde> bmw yes
12:19 < bmw> ok, thanks.
12:19   >>> bigla!~bigla@a-109.vc-graz.ac.at
12:20   >>> ramana!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com
12:20   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
12:21 < bigla> does anyone have an idea of how i could clean up a bit of my space with nilfs?   (cleanerd) how do i use it properly on the ac100?
12:22   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
12:23   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
12:23   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:23   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
12:26 < marvin24> woglinde: emmc and usb work since two weeks now ...
12:26 < woglinde> marvin I didnt touch my ac100 for 2 weeks now
12:26 < marvin24> ah
12:26   <   kottt-ac100!~android@host-52-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Quit: -a-]
12:27 < woglinde> okay I will try it maybee this evening
12:27   >>> AndIrc!~android@host-52-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
12:27 < woglinde> with my external sd-card
12:27   ~ AndIrc is now kottt-ac100
12:28 < marvin24> btw. the framebuffer console should be switched off to get Xorg fbdev
12:28 < woglinde> ieehks
12:29 < marvin24> blame NV
12:29 < woglinde> I tought fb is fb
12:30 < marvin24> they have some kind of lock in their driver
12:30 < marvin24> so you cannot have both, fbcon + fbdev
12:32   >>> ZoX_!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34
12:40   >>> AndIrc_!~android@host-48-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
12:40   <   kottt-ac100!~android@host-52-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
12:41 < arune> bigla: install nilfs-tools, reboot and it will clean, not vary fast but just wait
12:42 < arune> you can check if cleanerd has started with ps (ps aux|grep cleanerd)
12:42 < arune> (it should always be started after the first reboot)
12:46 < arune> my pandaboard has arrived
12:47   <   Belna!~Thomas@DSL01.212.114.252.242.ip-pool.NEFkom.net [Remote host closed the connection]
12:47 < bigla> arune: i edited the conf file because normally it would wait an hour until first clean
12:48 < bigla> an i just switched from gnome to xfce (lots of data)
12:50   >>> ogra!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:50   ~ ogra is now Guest34611
12:51   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
12:52   <   Guest34611!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
12:52   >>> Guest34611!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
12:52   ~ Guest34611 is now ogra_
12:52 < bigla> wheeee cleaned up... from 1,4 gb to 3 gb space
12:52 < bigla> yeah!
12:53   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:54 < woglinde> bigla what?
12:54 < bigla> i cleaned with new config file for cleanerd --> i freed up about 1,5gb of space
12:55   >>> mirco_ac!~mirco@pD9E57D32.dip.t-dialin.net
12:55 < mirco_ac> hi hi
12:56   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Excess Flood]
12:56   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:56   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
12:56   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
12:57   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
12:59   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Client Quit]
13:00   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
13:02 < arune> hello mirco_ac
13:06 < mirco_ac> I've asked the question twice before, but was disconnected everytime, this time I'm not on the road...
13:08 < mirco_ac> Is it a know'n bug that I've a color inverted corner on the right below my mouse pointer?
13:08 < woglinde> use soft cursor
13:09 < mirco_ac> woglinde: you mean I shall change xorg.conf?
13:09   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B5196D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:11 < woglinde> yes
13:11   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B5196D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:12 < mirco_ac> woglinde: Option "SWCursor"  ?
13:12 < woglinde> yes
13:12 < woglinde> lunch now
13:13 < steelrat> hello mirco_ac, please, can you tell me what bt dongle you are using under Andro? I bought a second one, but unfortunately it's based on the same chipset. dmesg says that in my case a 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle has been attached...
13:13 < mirco_ac> woglinde: thx, I'll reboot to test it now
13:14   <   bigla!~bigla@a-109.vc-graz.ac.at [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:15 < mirco_ac> steelrat: I don't have a bluetooth dongle or android installed. But I've two bluetooth dongles on spare at home which I might test with ubuntu next week when I'm back at home...
13:15 < mirco_ac> mirco is rebooting
13:15   >>> boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
13:17 < steelrat> mirco_ac: sorry, I thought we spoke about my bt problem before...
13:19   <   mirco_ac!~mirco@pD9E57D32.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:20   >>> mirco_ac!~mirco@pD9E57D32.dip.t-dialin.net
13:34   <   Incred!~dmitry@188.17.10.131 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
13:34   >>> Incred1!~dmitry@188.17.24.162
13:36 < bmw> woglinde, abootimg --create  -k vmlinux or -k arch/arm/boot/zImage?
13:36 < woglinde> zImage
13:39 < bmw> need -c "bootsize"?
13:41   <   AndIrc_!~android@host-48-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:45 < woglinde> not really
13:46 < bmw> thanks
13:49   >>> bigla!~bigla@e-116.vc-graz.ac.at
13:54 < bmw> no boot :|
13:54 < bmw> freez on restore select
14:02   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B5196D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:12   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B5196D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
14:16   >>> CarolusMagnus1!~mocar@p57B50171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
14:16   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B5196D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:24   <   bigla!~bigla@e-116.vc-graz.ac.at []
14:25   <   CarolusMagnus1!~mocar@p57B50171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:27   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
14:41   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
14:48   <   lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
14:50   >>> lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net
14:57   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
14:59   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-rcufwdxeeurvqaxd [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
15:12   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-eidyimjfizbodmfm
15:23 < boringname> is anyone there, who is working on ubuntu (getting it to work)?
15:23 < woglinde> what?
15:23 < boringname> ah ...
15:23 < woglinde> ubuntu is working
15:23 < woglinde> depends on your bootloader and kernel
15:24 < boringname> so my question was, if the new tegra2 tablets would help with ubuntu (because they have a newer kernel)?
15:24   <   mirco_ac!~mirco@pD9E57D32.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:25 < boringname> and with working I mean 3d and video acceleration ;)
15:25 < boringname> sound would also be good
15:26   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.45.184
15:27 < boringname> I discovered that the folio is getting newer version of android from the community, so how easy/difficult would it be to port a newer android (2.3.3) to the kernel of android 2.2?
15:28   <   a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Quit: Ex-Chat]
15:28   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
15:28   ~ ogra_ is now ogra
15:29 < woglinde> boringname but they dont get a newer kernel
15:29 < woglinde> most people here arent intressted in android
15:32 < boringname> yeah I know, but as I want to use the ac100 for surfing (with flash), multimedia (video/music) and some small programming I would need android and ubuntu
15:32 < boringname> and so a newer android version would not hurt and if I would learn something more of linux would also not hurt ;)
15:33 < woglinde> ?
15:36 < boringname> I mean if I would try to port a newer android to an older kernel
15:36 < boringname> for the beginning I would try to compile the android 2.2 kernel from toshiba by myself and add some more "features" (like more filesystems)
15:38 < boringname> and my question still is, if a newer kernel from an tegra2 tablet (e.g. motorola xoom) would help with ubuntu?
15:38 < woglinde> ?
15:40 < boringname> woglinde: the "?" doesn´t help ;)
15:40 < ogra> woglinde, !
15:41 < woglinde> boringname read through the wiki
15:41 < woglinde> and look the ac kernel dris
15:41 < woglinde> ups git
15:41   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
15:41   ogra cries a bit and files https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/739374
15:43 < woglinde> use uclibc
15:43 < ogra> haha
15:43 < ogra> you are funny
15:44 < woglinde> ;)
15:44 < woglinde> hm maybee we need the patch too
15:44 < woglinde> ah no
15:45 < ogra> the kernel part is there
15:47 < woglinde> I thought about uclibc
15:47 < woglinde> but right I didnt test it with a kernel which has the errata activated
15:47 < ogra> uclibc isnt an option in ubuntu
15:48   ogra isnt eager to recompile the whole archive against it :P
15:50   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.45.184 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:50 < woglinde> ogra I know
15:50 < woglinde> ;)
15:50   >>> clopoff!~Miranda@ppp91-76-6-83.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
15:53 < pm215_> I'm not convinced that "require gcc not to emit inline TLS register accesses" is an option in ubuntu either, mind you
15:54 < ogra> pm215_, well, i wanted to have it recorded ion LP ... i kno wmy chances are pretty low to get a fix
15:54   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.45.184
15:54 < ogra> which is really sad knowing that the majority of enduser devices are tegras out there atm
15:56 < pm215_> I guess you'd need a runtime test to see if the core you were running on had the erratum
15:57 < pm215_> but I really can't see a good fix for the inline cp15 accesses, there's no way to trap them
15:59   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.45.184 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
16:03   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.47.247
16:15   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B50171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
16:16   >>> br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
16:22 < ogra> pm215_, what bothers me is that the prob is newly showing up in natty, we didnt have it in maverick, neither the HW nor the kernel changed
16:23 < pm215_> presumably libc/gcc have moved to using MRC directly rather than compiling everything to go through the kernel high-page functions
16:24 < pm215_> one of the toolchain folk on #linaro would probably know what the relevant transition was
16:25 < ogra> well, i guess they will see the bug at some point ;)
16:25 < pm215_> tegra2's not in linaro's current platform set...
16:25 < ogra> i know
16:25 < ogra> but linaro will never get nvidia to sign up if the SW cant work on their HW
16:26 < ogra> its not in ubuntus set either, still we dont build with hardcoded NEON for example to make sure the apps run on tegra
16:29   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.47.247 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
16:30 < pm215_> I agree linaro should care, I just mean that they're not going to run into it in practice until/unless they make tegra a tested platform
16:30 < ogra> indeed
16:31 < ogra> though the head of the toolchain team uses an ac100 ... that possibly gives it some drive ;)
16:32   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-eidyimjfizbodmfm [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
16:34 < pm215_> you might try posting to linaro-toolchain asking if anybody has a bright idea for a workaround
16:43   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-aiejjexulgetfvnd
16:46   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:58 < woglinde> ogra who is it?
16:59 < ogra> woglinde, ?
17:00 < woglinde> -> < ogra> though the head of the toolchain team uses an ac100
17:01 < ogra> https://wiki.linaro.org/EngineeringTeam
17:01 < pm215_> ramana and I both have one as well
17:01 < ogra> yeah
17:02 < pm215_> I must get it sorted out to do suspend/resume before next uds so I don't have to take the huge laptop
17:03 < ogra> use phh's image, it has all the nvidia l4t crap on it
17:03   ogra doesnt really need suspend, if i dont use the ac100 for more than 4h i can as well shut it down
17:04 < pm215_> it's nice to be able to just close the lid, stick it in your bag and go to lunch/get off the train/whatever
17:04 < ogra> thats what i do :)
17:04 < ogra> i just leave it on
17:04 < ogra> battery is good for 4h
17:04   woglinde shakes fist at the icedtea people
17:05 < woglinde> 3 hours to get a workaround
17:05 < pm215_> I was wondering if the screen being permanently on might cause heating issues?
17:06 < ogra> not for me
17:06 < Unseen2> Mine was on for about 3 days before I shut it down this morning, lid closed, screen on. Slighytly warm case, nothing alarming.
17:06 < pm215_> cool
17:06 < woglinde> pm215 so you have an ac100 too?
17:06 < pm215_> yeah, have done since tail end of last year
17:06 < woglinde> ah
17:07 < woglinde> but didnt found the time to looking into here
17:09   >>> lil_pete!~jimmy@2001:638:202:3fe:216:eaff:fef0:5d42
17:10 < pm215_> I did at the time, but I got ubuntu installed on an sdcard which was enough to get started
17:10 < lil_pete> hey guys. does anybody know about the differences between the ac100 and toshiba folio 100 tablet?
17:10 < lil_pete> i got a folio and my usb doesnt want to hotplug... :-(
17:11 < woglinde> lil_pete wifi card
17:11 < woglinde> and some sensors
17:11   ogra guesses the display too
17:11 < lil_pete> so the usb-system is about the same, right?
17:11 < lil_pete> yeah i got the display / touchscreen running just fine
17:11 < lil_pete> sound is dead, but i dont mind
17:11 < woglinde> usb should be the same
17:12 < lil_pete> ogra: phd doesnt seem to be present?
17:12 < ogra> phh not phd :)
17:12 < lil_pete> :D
17:13 < lil_pete> i see
17:13 < lil_pete> =)
17:13 < lil_pete> phh you there?
17:15 < lil_pete> ogra: which kernel version is the ac100 running on? 2.6.36 or .32?
17:15 < ogra> .29
17:15 < lil_pete> oohhhh
17:16 < lil_pete> hhmmm ok, ill check for config changes/differences. :)
17:16 < ogra> there are .32 sources since a few days but nobody rolled a kernel image yet afaik
17:16 < lil_pete> okay
17:16 < ogra> and there is work on making the chromium .36 one work
17:16 < lil_pete> i got a tegra developer board here that runs .36, but i couldnt get that kernel to boot on the folio with *buntu
17:16 < ogra> not fifnshed yet though
17:17 < ogra> you will need the toshiba patches for your device waved in
17:17 < ogra> the dev board is just generic
17:18 < lil_pete> yeah its kinda confusing to me, the tegra-tree made it into kernel.org (mainline kernel), but somehow it doesnt seem to just work on all tegra-based systems. i wonder if theres so many changes in the spu itself... id understand non-running stuff like wifi n so on, but i _thought_ that the kernel at least, maybe even sd-cards (since theyre directly plugged to the chip) should be running
17:18 < lil_pete> hmmm you dont happen to know what toshiba tweaked, do you?
17:19 < ogra> lots and lots ;)
17:20 < marvin24> lil_pete: we have sources for .29 and .32 and patches against the nv-tegra android trees
17:20 < marvin24> porting to .36 isn't so easy, as the whole infrastructure has changed
17:21 < marvin24> and no userspace drivers are available (e.g for 2d/3d graphics), at least not yet
17:21 < lil_pete> okay... i dont actually _need_ .36, i was just wondering
17:21 < woglinde> lil_pete look at marvin trees
17:21 < woglinde> for .36
17:21 < marvin24> there is a tree at gitorious.org/ac100
17:21 < marvin24> if you want to play with it
17:21 < marvin24> it boot fine, but has no sound and no hw accel for graphics
17:21 < woglinde> and you should be able to do it yourself for the folio
17:22 < lil_pete> woglinde: do what exactly? port .36? :o
17:22 < woglinde> yes
17:23 < woglinde> hm maybee the sensors could be hard bit harder
17:23 < woglinde> but not that hard
17:23 < lil_pete> uhhhh i dont think i got the knowledge to do that
17:23 < woglinde> kernelsources for .32 folio are on github too
17:23 < lil_pete> yeah i got .32 compiled for my folio
17:24 < lil_pete> thats what im working on usb-hotplugging doesnt work as intended
17:24 < lil_pete> and im ok with .32 if i can get my devices working... most of which should
17:24 < woglinde> which usb hotplugging?
17:24 < lil_pete> i was just "just" wondering why hotplugging is not an issue for the ac100 and the developer board
17:25 < lil_pete> when booting my folio with a usb hub, i can plug/unplug everything i want to, if i unplug the hub its like usb is dead
17:25 < woglinde> and on what android or ubuntu?
17:25 < lil_pete> booting with a keyboard works fine, if i unplug it its gone and i dont get any dmesg messages when i plug it back in
17:25 < lil_pete> ubuntu
17:25 < woglinde> is it a powered hub?
17:26 < lil_pete> nope
17:26 < lil_pete> its the most simple 4-port usb hub you could think of, nothing special
17:26 < woglinde> hm
17:27 < lil_pete> if you like you can take a look at dmesg: http://pastebin.com/CWh81Vqh
17:27 < woglinde> does the keyboard works fine on the usb connector only?
17:27 < lil_pete> everything works fine as long as its plugged in @ boot time
17:27 < woglinde> thats wasnt my question
17:27 < lil_pete> i can boot with the hub and then when its running connect everything to the hub... works.
17:27 < lil_pete> ?
17:28 < ogra> let me do a wild guess and assume SIGNALFD isnt set in your kernel config ;)
17:28 < woglinde> my question was works the keyboard with hotplugging when you using only the usb connetor on the ac100
17:28 < woglinde> not the hub
17:29 < lil_pete> ogra: CONFIG_SIGNALFD=y
17:29 < ogra> hmmk
17:30 < lil_pete> woglinde: my problem occurs with the toshiba folio 100 tablet that only has one usb port. if i boot with keyboard plugged in, i can use the keyboard. as soon as i unplug it, its gone. if i reconnect it, nothing happens.
17:30   <   ramana!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
17:31 < woglinde> okay
17:32 < lil_pete> "okay i found the problem" ? :)
17:32   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
17:32   <   moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3 [Quit: Page closed]
17:33   >>> ramana!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com
17:34 < lil_pete> brb
17:41   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
17:43 < lil_pete> so... any ideas? 8D
17:43 < woglinde> no
17:43 < woglinde> I wanted only to be sure the hub isnt the problem
17:44 < woglinde> there are many usb fixes since .32 in the diffrent tegra trees
17:44 < woglinde> so maybee one would fix your problem
17:44 < lil_pete> hhmmm
17:44   >>> hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
17:44 < lil_pete> okay, im comparing the .config-files
17:45 < lil_pete> the sources come from the original folio-android where hotplugging is not a problem. well see if i can get it running by looking through "usb"-entries and comparing to the ac100
17:46 < woglinde> hm ah so on android its all working?
17:46 < woglinde> didnt saw you mentioned it
17:46 < lil_pete> not the _exact_ same kernel, meaning with a different config
17:59   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:09   >>> boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
18:10   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B50171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:15   >>> hengelke!~hengelke@p5B03C05A.dip.t-dialin.net
18:17   <   lil_pete!~jimmy@2001:638:202:3fe:216:eaff:fef0:5d42 [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
18:18   <   hengelke_!~hengelke@p5B03BB82.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
18:19   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
18:21   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Quit: Leaving.]
18:38   >>> lil_pete!~jimmy@dyn-vis-237.hlrs.de
18:39   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@g227081051.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:42   >>> stombi!~stombi@free.icom-com.fr
18:45   <   stombi!~stombi@free.icom-com.fr [Client Quit]
18:50   <   struger!~user@217.69.221.99 [Remote host closed the connection]
18:51   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
18:52 < phh> lil_pete: i'm here now.
18:52 < lil_pete> oh... hi. :)
18:52 < lil_pete> i heard you did some experimenting with folio 100 / ac100 kernels?
18:52 < woglinde> lol
18:53 < lil_pete> ?
18:53   <   gipIt!~Miranda@host217-137-static.43-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
18:53   lil_pete didnt mean to offend anybody
18:55 < phh> yeah
18:55 < woglinde> no I wonder where you heard that phh experiments with the folio kernel
18:55 < phh> yeah only ac100
18:55 < lil_pete> phh: i got a folio 100 that doesnt want to detect usb devices when plugged in after booting
18:55 < phh> folio100 costs too much.
18:56 < lil_pete> woglinde: i think ogra told me?
18:56 < lil_pete> oh ok then i guess youve never come across that issue
18:56 < phh> you're speaking of android ?
18:56 < phh> I think someone had that issue here
18:57 < lil_pete> no, ubuntu linux
18:57 < lil_pete> in android it just works fine
18:57 < phh> ah
18:57 < phh> what's the actual problem then ?
18:57 < phh> and what ubuntu are you using ?
18:57 < lil_pete> the fact that i need to run *buntu on the folio .)
18:57 < lil_pete> :)
18:57 < lil_pete> its a 10.04, created with rootstock
18:58 < lil_pete> everything works fine when i plug in a usb hub an boot. if i boot without the usb hub, the folio wont recognize it. not even a dmesg
18:58   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B50171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:58 < lil_pete> its like the usb bus is in suspend / energy save mode and never wakes up
19:03 < phh> don't know
19:04   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Quit: Leaving.]
19:04   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
19:05 < lil_pete> thats ok, seems like nobody on the whole internet knows... maybe some chinese / japanese guys, but i dont understand a single letter on their pages... and im afraid they got bigger problems in japan... :(
19:11   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
19:15   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-aiejjexulgetfvnd [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:16   <   ramana!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303171539]]
19:20   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
19:24   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@g227081051.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
19:26   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@g227081051.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:28   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:28   >>> boringname_!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
19:28   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:29   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
19:49   <   lil_pete!~jimmy@dyn-vis-237.hlrs.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
19:57   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B50171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:01   <   Incred1!~dmitry@188.17.24.162 [Quit: Leaving.]
20:12   ogra didnt mean to say phh experimented with a folio, but i thought i remembered you played with their kernel for tests
20:16   <   hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:16   >>> hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
20:31 < br3schweiz> Hi there...
20:32   >>> br3schweiz|2!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
20:32   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B50171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
20:32 < woglinde> hi
20:33 < br3schweiz|2> Is the GPS subsystem in Android stripped...?
20:33 < woglinde> from ac100?
20:33 < woglinde> yes
20:33 < br3schweiz|2> yes...
20:33 < br3schweiz|2> any chance to get it back...?
20:34 < woglinde> only with recompiling android
20:35 < woglinde> and some tricks
20:35 < br3schweiz|2> hehe...
20:35 < br3schweiz|2> lot of work (at least for me)
20:35 < gildean> does the 3g-modem contain gps-unit?
20:35 < woglinde> hm ah yeah recompiling of kernel-modules too
20:35 < woglinde> or compiling at least
20:35 < br3schweiz|2> i've already done that - that was bearable
20:35 < woglinde> I got my gps usb at least working on the kernel side
20:35 < br3schweiz|2> me too
20:36 < br3schweiz|2> but nothing more...
20:36 < woglinde> when I am at home I can give you link
20:36 < br3schweiz|2> the programs can't "see" it...
20:36 < br3schweiz|2> thank you...
20:36 < gildean> how about in ubuntu?
20:36 < woglinde> gildean no gps
20:36 < woglinde> in 3g
20:36 < gildean> ok
20:36 < gildean> so external gps-dongle
20:36 < br3schweiz|2> i used an external usb gps receiver (pl2303)
20:37 < gildean> which should work in ubuntu
20:37 < br3schweiz|2> that works in ubuntu
20:37 < br3schweiz|2> woglinde, is it more difficult to recompile android than the kernel...?
20:38   <   br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"]
20:38 < woglinde> yes
20:38 < gildean> why do you need to recompile the whole android, wouldn't an app that supports your hw suffice?
20:39 < br3schweiz|2> hehe, i expected that...
20:39 < woglinde> gildean because its a build in jar
20:39 < gildean> ah, like in the framework
20:39 < woglinde> dont know if it will work when you only exchange the jar
20:39   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
20:39 < gildean> it might
20:39 < gildean> doesn't hurt to try
20:41 < br3schweiz|2> hehe... the joy about the success with the kernel was too early....
20:42 < br3schweiz|2> btw, is it deactivated in both, 2.1 and 2.2 ...?
20:47   >>> br3schweiz|3!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
20:48   <   br3schweiz|2!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/]
20:48   <   br3schweiz|3!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Client Quit]
20:48   >>> br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
20:54   >>> lc_!~lc@80.251.113.51
20:56   >>> moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102
21:02   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B50171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
21:06   >>> turbo_!~turbo@e177206254.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:06   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.96.99
21:07   <   lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:10   <   woglinde!~henning@p5DDC0992.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: zapp]
21:19   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
21:20   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.96.99 []
21:21   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
21:32   <   hengelke!~hengelke@p5B03C05A.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Lost terminal]
21:40   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-220-155.pools.arcor-ip.net
21:59   <   lc_!~lc@80.251.113.51 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:59   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-220-155.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
22:05   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6AC53.dip.t-dialin.net
22:05   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
22:06   >>> lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net
22:06   <   turbo_!~turbo@e177206254.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Bye]
22:14   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
22:17 < bmw> marvin24: Where i can get .config for .36 kernel?
22:22   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
22:27   <   moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102 [Quit: Page closed]
22:29   <   boringname_!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:35   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052066208.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:37   >>> ramana!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
22:38   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-220-155.pools.arcor-ip.net
22:39   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:48   <   ogra!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:00   >>> bigla!~bigla@a-108.vc-graz.ac.at
23:02   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
23:03   >>> ogra!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
23:03   ~ ogra is now Guest27445
23:04   >>> Bronislas!~pierre@val59-8-78-243-131-65.fbx.proxad.net
23:05   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-220-155.pools.arcor-ip.net []
23:28   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
23:34   <   Bronislas!~pierre@val59-8-78-243-131-65.fbx.proxad.net [Quit: Quitte]
23:41   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-130-203-197.cust.tele2.se
23:53   >>> nelix1!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
23:54   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
23:55   >>> lenios!~lenios@82.225.102.129
23:55   <   lenios!~lenios@82.225.102.129 [Changing host]
23:55   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
23:57   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
--- Day changed Tue Mar 22 2011
00:03   >>> gogabr!~goga@108-73-1-185.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net
00:21 < woglinde> hm ice
00:21 < woglinde> while kernel compiling
00:22 < woglinde> args wrong branch
00:23 < kottt> woglinde: maybe you know, where i can get .config for .36 kernel?
00:25 < woglinde> sure
00:25 < woglinde> arch/arm/configs/paz00_defconfig
00:25 < woglinde> copy it to .config
00:25 < kottt> ok, thanx
00:25 < woglinde> and run the usual menuconfig to configure it to your needs
00:26 < woglinde> for instance I dont care for small
00:26 < woglinde> we have plenty space
00:26 < woglinde> in the partitions
00:26 < woglinde> my image is 2335276
00:26 < kottt> maybe you also know the reason of this error while kernel compiling: arm-linux-gnueabi-ld: no machine record defined ?
00:26 < woglinde> ups zImage
00:27 < woglinde> your toolchain is to old?
00:27 < woglinde> I am using a gcc-4.5 one
00:27 < kottt> ok, try to use it
00:31   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
00:34 < marvin24_DT> Hi muromec!
00:34 < muromec> hi
00:35 < marvin24_DT> I tried some cleanups
00:35 < marvin24_DT> but things seems to be worse now than before ...
00:35 < marvin24_DT> will try to fix it tomorrow
00:38 < woglinde> hm seems nvidia didnt test gagdet drivers as module
00:39 < muromec> woglinde, nor as =y
00:39 < muromec> marvin24_DT, yeap, tons of cleanup
00:39 < muromec> marvin24_DT, ... but what did you clean in i2c-tegra?
00:39 < marvin24_DT> was some old code of mine
00:40 < muromec> ah
00:40 < marvin24_DT> (tried to put the slave init into i2c-tegra)
00:40 < woglinde> muromec?
00:40 < woglinde> build in it compiles at leasr
00:40 < woglinde> t
00:40 < muromec> woglinde, gadget mode is nonworking for me
00:41 < woglinde> both?
00:41   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-130-203-197.cust.tele2.se [Quit: Leaving.]
00:41 < woglinde> console and net?
00:41 < marvin24_DT> np here with gadget (console + network)
00:41 < woglinde> hrms
00:41 < woglinde> damn I dont know how the crossarch/arm/mach-tegra/
00:41 < woglinde> args
00:42 < woglinde> arch/arm/mach-tegra/
00:42 < woglinde> hrms
00:42 < woglinde> so
00:42 < muromec> marvin24_DT, what magic do you use?
00:42 < woglinde> hm anyone knows how symbol's in moduls can be resolved?
00:42 < marvin24_DT> magic?
00:42 < marvin24_DT> forgot the hex codes
00:43 < muromec> i have usb0 interface on tegra, but no usb device just detected on host
00:43   woglinde knows to little about kernel lnking stuff
00:43 < marvin24_DT> the gadget should work out of the box
00:43 < marvin24_DT> with defconfig
00:43 < muromec> errr
00:43 < woglinde> hm I dont want them build in
00:44 < kottt> woglinde: i've installed gcc-4.5 and got same problem again: arm-linux-gnueabi-ld: no machine record defined :(
00:44 < woglinde> lets see how freescale solved this
00:44 < marvin24_DT> kottt: you need to select at least one board to compile for
00:44   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
00:44   <   nelix1!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:44 < woglinde> kott mybee you defined somethinwrong
00:44 < kottt> oh
00:44 < kottt> the board
00:44 < muromec> marvin24_DT, looks nice. but what did you broke?
00:44 < kottt> which version?
00:45 < marvin24_DT> I guess it was broken before, but hidden
00:45 < marvin24_DT> the tx buf gets overwritten I think
00:45 < marvin24_DT> if timing is bad
00:46 < woglinde> marvin24_DT which component?
00:47 < marvin24_DT> good old ec
00:47 < muromec> ah... eah, that thing should be rewrtitten more and more times before it will not cause any problems
00:47 < woglinde> so which is the bad commit?
00:47 < muromec> woglinde, HEAH
00:48 < woglinde> ?
00:48 < muromec> * HEAD
00:48   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Client Quit]
00:48 < muromec> both are true
00:48 < woglinde> hm
00:48   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
00:48 < marvin24_DT> it is not totaly broken
00:49 < marvin24_DT> kbd and mouse are working
00:49 < marvin24_DT> but lots of errors
00:49 < woglinde> muromec you now see how marvin changed your printk's
00:49   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121
00:49   muromec works on nvflash rewrite now
00:49 < woglinde> ?
00:50 < woglinde> really
00:50   <   br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Read error: Operation timed out]
00:50 < muromec> eah
00:50 < marvin24_DT> muromec: why you want your own nvflash?
00:51 < marvin24_DT> we'll have u-boot sooner or later
00:51 < marvin24_DT> in the weekend I got the u-boot to read the mbr from internal emmc
00:51 < marvin24_DT> (just the typical offset problem)
00:51 < muromec> marvin24_DT, because i dont want to run that crap via pipe
00:52 < woglinde> marivn ah
00:52 < muromec> and i want nice easy-to-use program for kickstart
00:52 < marvin24_DT> ok, downloading the whole sdk isnt user friendly
00:53 < muromec> marvin24_DT, https://github.com/muromec/putusb
00:53 < woglinde> marvin but you didnt yet commit anythin for uboot?
00:53 < marvin24_DT> muromec: yes, tried it yesterday but failed
00:53 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: nothing to commit yet
00:53   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Quit: Leaving.]
00:54 < marvin24_DT> (not before it's booting)
00:54   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
00:54 < muromec> marvin24_DT, well... now it sicks less :)
00:54 < muromec> *sucks
00:55 < woglinde> hm python
00:55 < marvin24_DT> need some sleep now
00:55 < woglinde> oh old method
00:56 < woglinde> no .ui file
00:56 < woglinde> hmhm
00:56 < marvin24_DT> cu
00:56   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@g227081051.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
00:56 < woglinde> nite marvin
00:56 < woglinde> to late
00:56 < muromec> woglinde, qt part is old and still moto-oriented
00:57 < bmw> woglinde, no ui - is old method?
00:57 < woglinde> muromec hm I would suggest use the designer makw the gui stuff via an .ui file
00:57 < woglinde> makes the real logic more readable
00:57 < muromec> eah
00:58 < muromec> i`m really good with gui programming
00:58 < muromec> *not
00:58 < muromec> err
00:58   muromec need some sleep too
00:59 < woglinde> I could help you with it if you want
00:59 < woglinde> by the way the newest way is to use qick/qml
01:00 < woglinde> but py-qt dont support it yet
01:01 < muromec> woglinde, can you make easy and nice looking gui part after i finish backend?
01:01 < bmw> woglinde, pyqt has support qml
01:01 < woglinde> dont know if it will nice looking
01:02 < woglinde> but its better when the window code is seperated
01:02 < woglinde> bmw ah
01:02 < woglinde> okay
01:02   >>> SMut7!~steffen@88.130.219.217
01:02 < SMut7> ui, what a lot of people...
01:02 < woglinde> ?
01:02 < woglinde> all sleeping
01:02 < SMut7> woglinde: tss...
01:03 < bmw> since 4.7
01:03 < SMut7> woglinde: maybe you could help me out then guys...
01:03 < muromec> woglinde, "nice-looking" is when program not looks like terrifying crap from 80x
01:03 < SMut7> anybody tried ChromiumOS on the AC100?
01:03 < muromec> and user not kills himself after seening it
01:04 < muromec> SMut7, ac100 sucks
01:04 < SMut7> I think this OS was made for this device, but unfortunately my first build doesn't want to boot.
01:04 < SMut7> muromec: why does it suck?
01:04 < muromec> SMut7, donno, i just so
01:04 < muromec> *it
01:04 < muromec> err
01:05 < bmw> herr (:
01:05 < SMut7> herr schmeiss hirn vom himmel?
01:05 < muromec> no xorg drivers - no party :(
01:05 < woglinde> muromec hm maybee I will try qml
01:05 < woglinde> wanted that anyway
01:06 < woglinde> testing on smoething
01:06 < SMut7> muromec: er, there is a tegra2 prebuildt kernel inside the sources of chromium os, the build went through but the damned thing doesn't boot frm the USB-stick
01:07 < muromec> woglinde, can we just write on qt with css and js only?
01:07 < muromec> SMut7, it shouldnt
01:07 < bmw> woglinde, maybe pyside? (:
01:07 < muromec> tegra is not ac100
01:07 < woglinde> bmw I am searching for examples
01:07 < woglinde> the normal tegra kernel has no ac100 support
01:07 < woglinde> form chromeos
01:08 < woglinde> only ventana harmony kain seabord
01:08 < muromec> any kernel has no ac100 support
01:08 < SMut7> muromec: but the ac100 got a tegra2 arm-based nvidia CPU inside doesn't it ?
01:08 < bmw> woglinde, i don't know about sql with pyside.. :|
01:08 < bmw> *qml
01:08 < muromec> SMut7, eah
01:08 < muromec> SMut7, but "tegra support" not means "ac100 support"
01:09 < woglinde> http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/static/Docs/PyQt4/html/qml.html
01:09 < woglinde> here we go
01:09 < SMut7> muromec: well there is android on the device, this kernel boots, so there is defenitely a kernel which boots.
01:09 < muromec> SMut7, eah, but not one you built
01:09 < SMut7> muromec: I saw ubuntu running on this device. So it works
01:10 < muromec> you should apply ton of crappy patches and downgrade kernel to 2.4.0 to make it work
01:10 < SMut7> what you need is a patched bootloader and it boots from USB devices, but it doesn't like my chomium OS
01:10 < bmw> SMut7, fake (:
01:10 < muromec> well, 2.4
01:10 < woglinde> muromec hm this looks I will watch the video twice and than we can make a gui with nice effects
01:10 < muromec> ah, 2.4 was about moto
01:10 < woglinde> okay
01:10 < woglinde> time to sleep
01:10 < muromec> woglinde, video?
01:11 < woglinde> qml/quick video from last qt-dev days
01:11 < muromec> SMut7, its not patched and not bootloader
01:11   >>> clopof!~Miranda@ppp91-76-4-234.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
01:11 < muromec> and it not boots from usb
01:11 < woglinde> are you intressted I would search the link as last task
01:11 < SMut7> muromec: it does boot.
01:11 < woglinde> ah its already in tab open
01:11 < SMut7> wait a second.
01:12 < woglinde> http://qt.nokia.com/developer/learning/online/talks/developerdays2010/tech-talks/meet-qt-quick
01:12 < muromec> woglinde, thanks
01:12 < woglinde> http://qt.nokia.com/developer/learning/online/talks/developerdays2010/tech-talks/qt-quick-rapid-user-interface-prototyping
01:12 < muromec> woglinde, i`l see at working code later ;)
01:12 < woglinde> http://qt.nokia.com/developer/learning/online/talks/developerdays2010/tech-talks/qt-quick-for-c-developers
01:12 < woglinde> and
01:12 < woglinde> http://qt.nokia.com/developer/learning/online/talks/developerdays2010/tech-talks/qt-3d-qml-scripting-for-ui-designers-and-hackers
01:13 < woglinde> but the last 3 I didnt saw yet
01:13 < woglinde> good nite
01:13 < woglinde> have fun
01:13 < SMut7> http://www.linux-community.de/Internal/Artikel/Online-Artikel/So-installieren-Sie-Ubuntu-auf-dem-Toshiba-AC100
01:14   <   clopoff!~Miranda@ppp91-76-6-83.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
01:14 < bmw> woglinde, Perhaps this is too much dependence, use qml?
01:14 < woglinde> bmw what?
01:14 < woglinde> bmw -> http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/static/Docs/PyQt4/html/qml.html
01:14 < SMut7> this works, I had it booting and running but I want ChromiumOS
01:16 < muromec> SMut7, so get chromium here same way, whats the problem?
01:17 < bmw> woglinde, biiiiig lib for this toolse.
01:18 < woglinde> bmw?
01:18 < woglinde> 3440316  9. Mär 18:28 /usr/lib/libQtDeclarative.so.4.7.2
01:18 < woglinde> 3 mb isnt that big
01:19 < bmw> Is that all?
01:19 < bmw> hmm
01:20 < woglinde> na he
01:20 < woglinde> no
01:20 < woglinde> you need a bit more
01:20 < woglinde> the python wrappers
01:20 < woglinde> and normal qt-stuff
01:21   <   hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:21 < woglinde> so now really off
01:21   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052066208.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
01:22 < muromec> woglinde, last time i saw that crap running it was 3-5 MB all
01:22 < bmw> too late)
01:23 < muromec> ah, its 2011 now so we need 1GB disk space and 800MB ram to display nice-looking window popup
01:24   muromec totally forgot about time
01:24   SMut7 n8!
01:24   <   SMut7!~steffen@88.130.219.217 [Quit: leaving]
01:25 < bmw> qt-embedded? :D
01:30 < muromec> bmw, qt-embedded 2 rocks
01:32   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@p5B212A7B.dip.t-dialin.net
01:32   <   dl9pf!~quassel@p5B212A7B.dip.t-dialin.net [Changing host]
01:32   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
01:34   <   dl9pf_!~quassel@p5B214C82.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
01:37 < ggrandou> $ uname -a
01:37 < ggrandou> Linux ac100 2.6.32.9-00001-g4419be4-dirty #3 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 21 23:35:37 CET 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux
01:38 < ggrandou> time to bed now :p
01:38 < muromec> ggrandou, its one toshiba released?
01:39 < ggrandou> yes
01:40 < muromec> nice
01:50 < Eruquen> what do I have to do to get the new kernel?
01:52 < bmw> блин чет у меня флешка не монтируется =\
01:52 < bmw> sorry
01:54   <   clopof!~Miranda@ppp91-76-4-234.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
02:21   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
02:30   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net ["Leaving"]
02:40 < bigla> hey does anyone have the right tun.ko file for froyo on ac100??
02:43   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
03:08   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6AC53.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
03:08   <   bigla!~bigla@a-108.vc-graz.ac.at []
03:16   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6AC53.dip.t-dialin.net
03:26   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Remote host closed the connection]
03:45   >>> alexript!~alexript@89.112.7.20.pppoe.eltel.net
03:48   <   alexript!~alexript@89.112.7.20.pppoe.eltel.net [Client Quit]
03:51   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
04:08   <   gogabr!~goga@108-73-1-185.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:23   <   sraue_!~stephan@230-56-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch [Quit: Ex-Chat]
04:23   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
06:01   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
07:11   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.178.121 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
07:35   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 []
07:54   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
08:27   >>> moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102
08:38   <   moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102 [Quit: Page closed]
09:03   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.46.50
09:09   >>> struger!~user@217.69.221.99
09:12   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:41 < bmw> can you give me cmdline for 36 kernel?
09:42   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6AC53.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
09:42 < bmw> on 117
10:09   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:20   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.46.50 []
10:22   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.46.50
10:22   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.46.50 []
10:24   <   ramana!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303171539]]
10:26   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.46.224
10:39   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
10:39   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
10:47   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-conuvucjkmcqfrvt
10:52   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
10:53   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
11:01   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
11:02   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
11:09 < marvin24> which kernel?
11:09   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-206-11.mcn.bellsouth.net
11:09 < marvin24> for .36 you need just "mem=448@0M"
11:14 < bmw> hmm
11:34   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-conuvucjkmcqfrvt [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
11:41   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
11:46   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-rdceuimpqwvjthab
11:53   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Remote host closed the connection]
11:58   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-rdceuimpqwvjthab [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
12:00   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-206-11.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
12:09   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-gnovohjybexdvjxt
12:10   <   Guest27445!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
12:10   >>> ogra!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:11   ~ ogra is now Guest67326
12:11   <   Guest67326!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
12:11   >>> Guest67326!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
12:11   ~ Guest67326 is now ogra_
12:14   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-206-11.mcn.bellsouth.net
12:16   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Excess Flood]
12:17   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:18   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
12:26   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@mek33-1-82-66-31-175.fbx.proxad.net
12:37   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
12:48   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
12:50 < steelrat> Hello there! Who of you has been using bt usb dongle under Andro on the 10V (I always forget names :)?
12:50 < phh> i don't remember of anyone mentioning he did it mmm
12:51 < steelrat> Spoke to someone a few days ago... (Note to myself: write down names!)
12:51 < phh> if it's really *few* days
12:51 < phh> check logs in topic ? :D
12:53   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51774.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:53   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
12:54 < steelrat> phh: Ahhh, they're working again... It's been mirco who told me just to plug the dongle in but unfortunately it does not to seem so easy...
12:56 < phh> reboot after that ? :D
12:56 < phh> but yeah i've read the init scripts, it's not that easy
12:56 < phh> (it's fairly easy though)
12:57 < phh> (should be.)
13:02 < muromec> plug usb in and reboot?
13:02   muromec proud of whole IT
13:03 < steelrat> muromec: nope does not work...
13:04 < phh> read init scripts, you'll find out how to enable i t:D
13:05 < steelrat> phh: why is there never an easy way?
13:05 < phh> i said it's easy :D
13:05 < ogra_> use ubuntu, it just works ;)
13:05 < phh> or that :)
13:06 < phh> (ok i wouldn't bet on my version)
13:06 < steelrat> ogra: but i don't have proper video playback and that's a freal drawback...
13:06 < ogra_> phh, did you ever try to boot .32 on the old bootloader ?
13:07 < phh> ogra_: na
13:07 < ogra_> hmm, i'd like to know if it works
13:07 < phh> ogra_: why ?
13:07 < phh> flashing part4 is no big deal
13:07 < ogra_> because if people like me dont have 2.2 installed and want to do an ubuntu upgrade that would be helpful
13:08 < ogra_> its one step less for the upgrade
13:13   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51774.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
13:28   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.46.224 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
13:40 < steelrat> phh: please give me a hint... where to look for the bt... i'm just looking at the init.rc...
13:54   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:56   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.189.85
13:58   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
14:06   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
14:11   >>> hectorvector!~hectorvec@softbank220033228024.bbtec.net
14:23   ~ ogra_ is now ogra
14:23   <   ogra!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
14:23   >>> ogra!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
14:30 < ggrandou> ogra: booting using the 2.1 bl is on my target list :p
14:30 < ogra> awesome !
14:30 < ggrandou> should be only a matter of machinetype and faking/fixing atags
14:31 < ogra> yeah, i thought so
14:31 < ogra> i was just wondering if it was somehow backwards compatible ootb ... but doesnt seem to be the case
14:32   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-206-11.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
14:35 < ggrandou> I've seen one commit in the .29 branch (post our kernel) where they have changed the expected structure of video tag, making it impossible to boot on our legacy bootloader
14:35 < ggrandou> I don't know how many other things have changed since
14:36   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-207-233.mcn.bellsouth.net
14:46   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
14:55   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@62.233.33.53
14:58   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.189.85 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
15:06   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
15:26   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
15:28   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
15:36 < marvin24> ggrandou: I even seems that the machine id depends on the kernel version the bootloader detects
15:36 < marvin24> but maybe not relevant for .32
15:40 < ggrandou> it's the thing I would like to see by myself ;)
15:40 < ggrandou> Not that I don't trust you, it's just that it's so weird
15:41 < ggrandou> (but not really more weird than the variable mmc offset on 2.1)
16:04   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
16:05   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:05   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@mek33-1-82-66-31-175.fbx.proxad.net [Quit: Quitte]
16:05 < muromec> wow, bootloader detects kernel version?
16:17   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225144151.adsl.alicedsl.de
16:45 < marvin24> muromec: at least it seems so
16:46 < marvin24> on .29/.32 it prints the harmony id, while with .36 it prints the paz00 id
16:46 < muromec> marvin24, which magic the use to guess kernel version without loading?
16:46 < muromec> *they
16:49 < marvin24> do I have the fastboot source?
16:49   muromec not sure if its fastboot
16:50 < marvin24> what is this fastboot anyway
16:50 < marvin24> lets call it binary blob
17:02   <   struger!~user@217.69.221.99 [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
17:02   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-80-222.bb.netbynet.ru
17:07   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-80-222.bb.netbynet.ru [Client Quit]
17:17   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
17:18   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
17:29   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-207-233.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
17:34   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-220-209.mcn.bellsouth.net
17:40   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-220-209.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
17:44 < steelrat> phh: you there? my bt problem drives me crazy! Pls give some advice...
17:45   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-223-154.mcn.bellsouth.net
17:48   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Quit: Leaving.]
18:15   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Remote host closed the connection]
18:19   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
18:20   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
18:20   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
18:22   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
18:28   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
18:29   >>> client3424!~client342@2a02:200:2003:1:214:c1ff:fe43:9a2d
18:49   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
18:49   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
18:50   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051171132.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:12   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:14 < woglinde> re#
19:15 < woglinde> steelrat whats the problem?
19:16 < steelrat> woglinde: sorry, have to leave my place now... will contact you later! Thank you!
19:16   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
19:20   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
19:21   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
19:21   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
19:29   <   client3424!~client342@2a02:200:2003:1:214:c1ff:fe43:9a2d [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
19:31   >>> o6xcc!~o6xcc@nat-210-39.etelecom.ru
19:36   >>> steelrat!~androirc@89.204.153.97
19:38   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
19:38 < steelrat> woglinde: my bt dongle is not working under Androhung 2.2
19:38 < steelrat> Andro 2.2
19:39 < woglinde> hm
19:39 < woglinde> recompile the bluez modules
19:39 < woglinde> you have the source luke
19:40 < steelrat> woglinde: never Seen bluez in my system ...
19:41 < woglinde> which dongle you have?
19:41 < woglinde> and it worked under .29?
19:42 < steelrat> i updated on the spot to 2.2 ...
19:44   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-gnovohjybexdvjxt [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:46   >>> steelrat2!~androirc@89.204.137.117
19:47   >>> ale6!~alexis@2a01:e35:1392:2080:2::25
19:47 < steelrat2> woglinde: it is a 0a12:0001 device...
19:48   <   steelrat!~androirc@89.204.153.97 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
19:48   ~ steelrat2 is now steelrat
19:48 < woglinde> lsusb output?
19:49 < woglinde> you need the hci_usb driver
19:49 < woglinde> according to this site http://www.klabs.be/~fpiat/linux/bluetooth/bluetooth_HOWTO.html
19:50 < steelrat> just showing the device with its vendor id (typing on my phone and hatong it...)
19:52 < steelrat> woglinde: read this article before but could not make much out of it regarding andro...
19:52 < woglinde> ?
19:52 < woglinde> again you need this kernel modul
19:53 < steelrat> and there are ac100 with bt out there...
19:53 < woglinde> sure
19:54 < woglinde> but they have other modules
19:54 < steelrat> lsmod shows me bt_usb... not enough?
19:57 < steelrat> is it possible to copy the needed modules from a model with bt built in?
20:01   >>> hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
20:03 < woglinde> no
20:03 < woglinde> hci_usb
20:06 < steelrat> woglinde: no - copy or no - bt_usb?
20:08   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@f052224249.adsl.alicedsl.de
20:08 < woglinde_> ????
20:08 < woglinde_> try to compile hci_usb
20:10   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225144151.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20:13 < steelrat> woglinde: okay, will try... never compiled anything for Andro before....
20:14   <   steelrat!~androirc@89.204.137.117 [Quit: steelrat]
20:14   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
20:26   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
20:30   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-223-154.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:38   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.96.99
20:45   >>> kottt_ac!~android@host-91-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
20:50   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
20:56   >>> zedrok!~marco@ip-80-226-221-157.vodafone-net.de
20:58   <   zedrok!~marco@ip-80-226-221-157.vodafone-net.de [Client Quit]
21:01   <   kottt_ac!~android@host-91-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:01   >>> AndIrc!~android@host-139-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
21:07   <   AndIrc!~android@host-139-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
21:09   >>> AndIrc!~android@host-139-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
21:14   >>> moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102
21:15   ~ AndIrc is now kottt_ac
21:22   <   kottt_ac!~android@host-139-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
21:22   >>> AndIrc!~android@host-129-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
21:26   <   AndIrc!~android@host-129-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Remote host closed the connection]
21:33   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.96.99 []
21:34   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6A68B.dip.t-dialin.net
21:34   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.96.99
21:36   <   moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102 [Quit: Page closed]
21:46   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@62.233.33.53 [Remote host closed the connection]
21:48   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:51   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.96.99 []
21:53   <   o6xcc!~o6xcc@nat-210-39.etelecom.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:53   >>> bgm80!~yaaic@87.13.64.22
22:04   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
22:04   ~ Zaek is now Isakk
22:07   >>> artemmakhutov!~artem@2001:6f8:115f:0:224:d7ff:fe2e:9974
22:12   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-119-140.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
22:19   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
22:22 < artemmakhutov> ping
22:24 < Isakk> pong
22:24 < marvin24_DT> pong
22:24 < marvin24_DT> we have an ip conflict
22:24 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
22:24 < Isakk> ^^
22:24 < artemmakhutov> arp
22:24 < Unseen2> Are you sure it wasn't a broadcast ping? ;)
22:25 < artemmakhutov> I have seen your great efforts of getting kernel 2.6.39 work on the ac100
22:25 < artemmakhutov> I would like to do the same with my folio 100
22:26 < marvin24_DT> well, .39 is far future ...
22:26 < marvin24_DT> still working on .32 and .36 at the moment
22:26 < artemmakhutov> yes, but at least you have made the kernel patches for it
22:26 < marvin24_DT> yes, it's a beginning
22:26 < marvin24_DT> for folio, you should also target .36
22:26 < marvin24_DT> (android version)
22:27 < marvin24_DT> maybe you can get honeycomb running later on it (requires .36)
22:27 < artemmakhutov> yes, sure
22:27 < artemmakhutov> we are targetting 2.636
22:27 < artemmakhutov> do you have sources for the AC100?
22:27 < marvin24_DT> yes
22:27 < woglinde_> artemmakhutov ah you are the artem from the xda forum
22:28 < marvin24_DT> eg. gitorious.org/ac100
22:28 < artemmakhutov> ah ok
22:28 < artemmakhutov> yes, exactly
22:29 < marvin24_DT> I guess you have the folio source already ...
22:29 < woglinde_> marvin .32 yes
22:29 < artemmakhutov> one guy is telling that the ac100 kernel can be run on the folio .... some time ago I tried this, but I was not able to boot the device ...
22:29 < woglinde_> its on github
22:29 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: no
22:29 < marvin24_DT> you need to change some things
22:29 < artemmakhutov> we have also kernel 2.6.32 toshiba sources availible
22:29 < marvin24_DT> best is to start from the begining
22:30 < woglinde_> hm but folio has no stupid ec
22:30 < marvin24_DT> I mean copy the harmony board to board-folio and change the gpio's
22:30 < artemmakhutov> https://github.com/tsh/folio100
22:30 < marvin24_DT> woglinde_: no ec?
22:30 < marvin24_DT> sure?
22:30 < marvin24_DT> what lucky people ...
22:31 < artemmakhutov> ok ... you are writing in the your sources that it is not possible to boot the ac100 with toshiba bootloader ...
22:31 < woglinde_> hm I am not 100% sure
22:31 < woglinde_> but for the sensors you dont really need it
22:31 < artemmakhutov> what do you mean with ec?
22:31 < marvin24_DT> kind of chip to rule you
22:31 < artemmakhutov> hmm, ok ..
22:32 < marvin24_DT> the keyboard and the touchpad is connected to it via ps2
22:32 < marvin24_DT> I don't think the folio touch is ps2
22:32 < woglinde_> no
22:32 < artemmakhutov> no, its not
22:32 < woglinde_> lol
22:32   ~ woglinde_ is now woglinde
22:33 < artemmakhutov> why can't you boot the pre 2.6.39 kernel with the toshiba bootloader?
22:33 < marvin24_DT> who said we can't?
22:33 < artemmakhutov> I am wondering if I will have the same problem on the folio ...
22:33 < marvin24_DT> all kernels are booting
22:33 < marvin24_DT> more or less good of course
22:34 < artemmakhutov> "The code will not be able to boot the machine as the proprietary bootloader uses a different machine type..."
22:34 < artemmakhutov> http://news.spinics.net/lists/linux-tegra/msg01194.html
22:34 < marvin24_DT> ah, thats old news
22:34 < artemmakhutov> ah, thats good to hear
22:35 < marvin24_DT> for .39 I'm not sure if it boots, but we'll see later on
22:35 < marvin24_DT> the machine id problem is that bootloader changes the machine id based on the kernel version
22:35 < marvin24_DT> at least that's what I think
22:36 < marvin24_DT> maybe toshiba/compal didn't want us to copy their faults
22:36 < artemmakhutov> hmm, how does the kernel knows what board-config to use?
22:36 < marvin24_DT> but forgot to tell us
22:36 < marvin24_DT> the bootloader handles a so called machine it to the kernel
22:36 < artemmakhutov> are there some kind of board-ids?
22:36 < marvin24_DT> yes
22:36 < marvin24_DT> you should register a machine id first
22:36 < artemmakhutov> ok, can you tell me little more about this? :)
22:37 < marvin24_DT> see arch/arm/tools/mtypes.h ...
22:37 < marvin24_DT> btw, what does folio print as the "Machine: ..." ?
22:38 < woglinde> I bet harmony too
22:38 < woglinde> now
22:38 < artemmakhutov> yes, somewhere I saw harmony ....
22:38 < marvin24_DT> Machine: Tegra 2 Development System
22:38 < marvin24_DT> mmh
22:38 < woglinde> lol
22:38 < artemmakhutov> or this one ....
22:38 < artemmakhutov> let me check this ....
22:38 < marvin24_DT> http://tegramid.com/wiki/Folio_dmesg
22:38 < artemmakhutov> where is it visible? During boot?
22:39 < woglinde> marvin24_DT hm but thats before the update
22:39 < marvin24_DT> 5th line
22:39 < marvin24_DT> it's .32
22:39 < artemmakhutov> Machine: Tegra 2 Development System
22:39 < artemmakhutov> yes ...
22:39 < woglinde> marvin24_DT yes but they got kernel updates too
22:39 < marvin24_DT> donno
22:39 < marvin24_DT> doesn't matter much anyway as you can add several machine id to the same board file
22:40 < woglinde> hm
22:40 < artemmakhutov> ok, so the first this I have to do is to find out the machine id, right?
22:40 < woglinde> I wanted try kexec
22:41 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: if you don't want to get the kernel to mainline, you can just use the old machine id without registering a new one
22:41 < marvin24_DT> did toshiba said something about honycomb support later?
22:41 < artemmakhutov> Machine: Tegra 2 Development System
22:42 < artemmakhutov> tegra_generic           MACH_TEGRA_GENERIC      TEGRA_GENERIC           3333
22:42   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B51774.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
22:43 < marvin24_DT> yes, that's what they also use for the first ac100 bootloader
22:43   >>> kindred2!~chatzilla@mon75-2-81-57-111-81.fbx.proxad.net
22:44 < woglinde> ah fine no big lock's anymore in .39
22:49 < artemmakhutov> What the best way to find out the board id?
22:51   <   hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no []
22:52   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B51774.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:52   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B51774.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
22:52 < artemmakhutov> do you have the ac100 2.6.36 kernel somewhere on github?
22:54   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
22:54   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
22:54   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B51774.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Client Quit]
22:57 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: yes, look for marvin24's kernel
22:57 < marvin24_DT> no
22:57 < marvin24_DT> in gitorious/ac100
22:57   marvin24_DT doesn't know anymore where he pushes the stuff
22:57   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B51774.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
22:58   >>> hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
22:58   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
23:00   >>> nopy!~kvirc@www.nopy.org
23:01 < artemmakhutov> hi nopy :)
23:01 < nopy> hi
23:03 < artemmakhutov> I will start my work from git://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/linux-2.6.git
23:05 < artemmakhutov> what files have you changed for the ac100 only board-paz00.c board-paz00.h board-paz00-pinmux.c or something else?
23:06 < gildean> oh, it seems ff4 has been finaly released
23:07 < arune> gildean: did you just wake up? ;)
23:09 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: Makefile/Kconfig ?
23:09 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: you can get the pinmux from the debugfs
23:09   <   kindred2!~chatzilla@mon75-2-81-57-111-81.fbx.proxad.net [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303170030]]
23:09 < marvin24_DT> or by searching in the source
23:09 < marvin24_DT> (I recommend the first way ;-)
23:10 < marvin24_DT> looks like the ec sends the mouse id after the reset
23:10 < marvin24_DT> and ignores the id request by the linux ps2 layer
23:10   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
23:10 < marvin24_DT> crap
23:11 < lenios> is it going from .29 to .36 or there will be a .32 release?
23:12   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
23:12 < marvin24_DT> .32 should be the short term solution
23:12 < marvin24_DT> depends how fast phh or ggrandou can work
23:15 < gildean> marvin24_DT: ggrandou got .32 working at least to some point
23:15 < gildean> 01:37 < ggrandou> $ uname -a
23:15 < gildean> 01:37 < ggrandou> Linux ac100 2.6.32.9-00001-g4419be4-dirty #3 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 21 23:35:37 CET 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux
23:16   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
23:17 < marvin24_DT> gildean: I have only seens what he pushed to gitorious
23:17 < marvin24_DT> is it the same source?
23:18 < marvin24_DT> (there is no patch history)
23:21   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
23:25 < artemmakhutov> what kind of problems are you fighting with?
23:25 < marvin24_DT> well, where to begin ....
23:25   marvin24_DT want a proper mouse init
23:26 < marvin24_DT> it's somehow wrong on .36
23:27 < artemmakhutov> but USB mouse and stuff like that is working?
23:27 < woglinde> sure
23:27 < marvin24_DT> touchpad is also working, but only after a certain timeout ...
23:28 < marvin24_DT> just then the linux layer gives up on requesting the mouse id
23:28   >>> torwag!~user@dslb-188-100-034-213.pools.arcor-ip.net
23:30 < torwag> Hi, I'm looking for the present status for running a Linux distro on a the AC100
23:31   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
23:32 < lenios> when you say mouse, you imply X server, right?
23:33 < woglinde> kernel
23:33 < torwag> Websources are quite different, sound, power management, etc.
23:33 < marvin24_DT> lenios: yes
23:34 < marvin24_DT> e.g. on login screen, mouse only starts to work after some time hammering the touchpad
23:34 < lenios> i don't need a mouse on login  screen
23:36 < lenios> torwag, you can get ubuntu 10.10 running with some hacks, sound and video acceleration doesn't work that well though
23:36 < torwag> lenios: how about power-management and suspend... thats most important for me
23:37 < arune> phh image have functional power-management and suspend
23:37 < arune> cpu-scaling at least
23:38 < arune> sometimes I need to reset wifi after suspend
23:38 < torwag> hmmm sounds good
23:39   Unseen2 usually has a corrupted mouse pointer after suspend
23:39 < lenios> bug with wifi after suspend yes
23:39 < torwag> is there any prefered model
23:39 < torwag> how about the umts modul?
23:40 < Unseen2> standard Ericsson module connected internally over USB
23:41 < torwag> Unseen2: I mean is it working under Linux
23:42 < Unseen2> It should work
23:42 < woglinde> its working
23:42 < woglinde> with modem-manager
23:46 < torwag> nice, o.k. last question ;) I read somewhere that the internal memory is "only" a 8GB MMC. How about the speed of the internal storage?
23:47 < woglinde> up to 25 mb/s
23:51   >>> lc_!~lc@80.251.113.51
23:53   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:54   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
  ------------------- Day changed to 03/23/11 -------------------
00:05 < torwag> ok very last question really... battery-life time for a working+programming scenario?
00:05 < woglinde> programming?
00:06 < torwag> well I would like to use it as a ultra-mobile emacs station
00:06 < woglinde> programming which lang?
00:06 < torwag> some programming, some LaTeX, some Python, some C
00:06 < woglinde> you dont really want to compile on
00:06 < woglinde> it
00:07 < woglinde> only ogra does it
00:07 < woglinde> but not for fun
00:07 < torwag> no compiling is not really necceary more code reviewing...
00:07 < woglinde> 4-5 hours
00:07 < torwag> what one could do on the move
00:10   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051171132.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
00:14 < woglinde> hm
00:14 < woglinde> http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/tegra.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7f9c567e6b95074087584672773a167224608d3
00:17 < woglinde> and
00:17 < woglinde> http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=87a9efe751716ca741caac72b9061fdfdcec540a
00:21 < artemmakhutov> gitorious.org[0: 2a02:c0:1014::1]: errno=Connection refused   --- IPv6 seems to be broken
00:22 < woglinde> use ipv4
00:24   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-119-140.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
00:27   <   lc_!~lc@80.251.113.51 [Read error: Operation timed out]
00:28   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-119-140.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
00:41   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@f052232073.adsl.alicedsl.de
00:42   <   nopy!~kvirc@www.nopy.org [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
00:43   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052224249.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
00:53   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B51774.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:53   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-119-140.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
00:58   >>> ramana!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
01:01 < artemmakhutov> wuhaha
01:02 < artemmakhutov> the kernel booted on my folio ;D
01:04 < bmw> how disable fb in 2.6.32?
01:04 < woglinde_> ?
01:05 < woglinde_> why you want disable the fb?
01:05 < woglinde_> artemmakhutov which kernel=
01:05 < woglinde_> ?
01:10 < woglinde_> okay good nite
01:10 < artemmakhutov> 2.6.36
01:10 < woglinde_> ah nice
01:10 < woglinde_> with machine id fix?
01:11 < artemmakhutov> but the screen is still black
01:11 < artemmakhutov> only usb is working
01:11 < woglinde_> hm
01:11 < artemmakhutov> serial console over usb :)
01:11 < woglinde_> check the timings
01:11 < woglinde_> g_composite driver?
01:11 < woglinde_> g_composite make both
01:12 < woglinde_> serial console and net
01:12 < artemmakhutov> I have missed a few things in the kernel
01:12 < artemmakhutov> will try again
01:12 < woglinde_> maybee the display is diffrent
01:13 < woglinde_> okay
01:13 < woglinde_> I am off
01:13   <   woglinde_!~heinold@f052232073.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
01:16 < artemmakhutov> me too
01:16 < artemmakhutov> good night
01:16   <   artemmakhutov!~artem@2001:6f8:115f:0:224:d7ff:fe2e:9974 []
01:26   >>> lc!~lc@80.251.113.51
01:28   >>> bigla!~bigla@a-116.vc-graz.ac.at
01:29 < bigla> I dropped by to say thank you to all the hard working developers here for their efforts and work time getting (ubuntu-)linux to work on the ac100! Keep up
               the good work!
01:30   Isakk smiles at bigla
01:31 < Isakk> I didnt do anything
01:31 < Isakk> I'm just agreeing with you
01:31 < phh> marvin24: .32 is no solution actually.
01:32 < phh> marvin24: latest L4T is incompatible with toshiba's release
01:32 < phh> but alsa sound works !
01:33   >>> dl9pf_!~quassel@p5B2155E7.dip.t-dialin.net
01:33   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:39   <   lc!~lc@80.251.113.51 [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:39   <   bigla!~bigla@a-116.vc-graz.ac.at []
01:53   >>> cxxxxx!~yaaic@cs27028174.pp.htv.fi
01:59   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
02:03   <   shurdeek!~shurdeek@89.100.37.93 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:23   <   cxxxxx!~yaaic@cs27028174.pp.htv.fi [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org]
03:00   <   hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:37   >>> torwag`!~user@dslb-188-100-042-230.pools.arcor-ip.net
03:41   <   torwag!~user@dslb-188-100-034-213.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
05:36   <   flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
05:41   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-213-181.mcn.bellsouth.net
05:53   <   bgm80!~yaaic@87.13.64.22 [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
07:10   >>> grandrew!~andrew@95-27-159-247.broadband.corbina.ru
07:12   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-213-181.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
07:18   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
07:19   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Remote host closed the connection]
07:36   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
08:24   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.44.68
08:35   >>> antonl!~anton@213.33.220.118
08:40   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051110133.adsl.alicedsl.de
08:42   <   torwag`!~user@dslb-188-100-042-230.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
09:03   >>> struger!~user@217.69.221.99
09:17   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-200-168.mcn.bellsouth.net
09:20   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
09:23   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:24   <   Dahaka!~Dahaka@178-25-171-25-dynip.superkabel.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:55   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051110133.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
10:01   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:04   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Read error: Operation timed out]
10:05   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B509BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:06   <   ramana!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303171539]]
10:19   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
10:19   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6A68B.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
10:20   <   armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76 [Read error: Operation timed out]
10:21   >>> armin76!~armin@beluga.ia64.dev.gentoo.org
10:21   <   armin76!~armin@beluga.ia64.dev.gentoo.org [Changing host]
10:21   >>> armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76
10:24   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
10:26 < marvin24> phh: incompatible with toshiba release?
10:26 < marvin24> you mean the Xorg driver?
10:30   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
10:34   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.44.68 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
10:35   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
10:36   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.44.37
10:36   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-119-140.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
10:37   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Client Quit]
10:38   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
10:45   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
10:49   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
10:52   >>> Snark_!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
10:54   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
11:07   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-200-168.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
11:11   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
11:12   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:23   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-kdqwjgsiskekvcuo
11:41   <   ogra!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Excess Flood]
11:41   >>> ogra!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:42   ~ ogra is now Guest42038
11:42   <   Guest42038!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
11:42   >>> Guest42038!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
11:42   ~ Guest42038 is now ogra_
11:45   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:53 < CarolusMagnus> Is there anybody working on a new image with the .32 kernel?
12:06 < marvin24> yes, but status is unclear
12:06 < marvin24> I mean if it ever will work similar as .29 did/does
12:11   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-198-161.mcn.bellsouth.net
12:21 < CarolusMagnus> And the .36 Kernel? It isn't ready for use?
12:23 < scoopr> I believe one complicating factor is that there is no newer driver etc. release from nvidia that would work with the newer kernels
12:24   >>> o6xcc!53950362@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.149.3.98
12:27   <   antonl!~anton@213.33.220.118 []
12:38   >>> boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
12:45   <   dl9pf_!~quassel@p5B2155E7.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
12:46   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
12:49   <   lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
12:49   >>> lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru
12:50   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Remote host closed the connection]
12:57   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
12:57   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
12:57   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
12:59   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B509BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
13:00   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
13:04   >>> lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net
13:06   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:10   <   lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
13:12   ~ Snark_ is now Snark
13:14   <   lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:15   >>> lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net
13:18   >>> antonl!~anton@213.33.220.118
13:20   >>> ChaoZero!c1acbb93@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.172.187.147
13:20 < ChaoZero> hey guys
13:21 < ChaoZero> can anyone please provide me with a nand-backup of part2 and part4 for my ac100-10T?
13:22   >>> moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3
13:22 < ChaoZero> or any other way to downgrade (the bootloader) back to 2.1?
13:22 < phh> marvin24: Xorg, 3D, omxplayer
13:22 < phh> mostly everything
13:23 < marvin24> phh: is the kernel interface different?
13:23 < phh> no
13:23 < phh>  /dev/nvrm_daemon protocol
13:23 < marvin24> ah, we require the android daemon
13:24 < marvin24> and the l4t daemon has no sound ...
13:24 < phh> well now I think i'll try to get sound to work with L4T daemon.
13:24   ogra_ thgought he heard phh say sound works in .32
13:24 < phh> ogra_: sound works.
13:24 < ogra_> but ?
13:24 < phh> with android's nvrm_daemon
13:24 < phh> bah only sound works -_-'
13:24 < ogra_> ah
13:25 < marvin24> do you want to copy the sound stuff from the android daemon to the l4t daemon?
13:25 < phh> marvin24: god no
13:26 < phh> marvin24: but I'm hoping that the only problem is the codec
13:26 < marvin24> ok, I was just wondering
13:26 < marvin24> ah, so port the codec to the kernel?
13:26 < phh> na
13:26 < phh> userland is better :D
13:27 < ogra_> port it to gstreamer ;)
13:27 < phh> you know what you're saying is just stupid right ?
13:27 < ogra_> why ? thats what omap4 does
13:28 < ogra_> the codecs live in the gstreamer packages for various bits
13:28 < phh> codec = DAC/ADC
13:28 < phh> it's wired to tegra audio system, i can't control that
13:28 < phh> I can only control I2C registers of the codec.
13:28 < ogra_> ah
13:34   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B509BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:40   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.44.37 [Quit: ????? ? ?? ??? (xchat 2.4.5 ??? ??????)]
13:42   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
13:43   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
13:44   >>> lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru
13:45   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:49   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B509BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:56   <   lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:59   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
13:59   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Client Quit]
14:00   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
14:14   >>> lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru
14:15 < ChaoZero> hmm still noone around to point me to a 2.1 partition 2+4 backup for my ac100-10T?
14:19   <   moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:19 < dario> ChaeZero: 1. i dont know why nobody has put any online yet, is there some legal issue ?
14:20 < dario> 2. i have backups of an ac100-10V, if they help you i'd upload them somwhere
14:20   <   ChaoZero!c1acbb93@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.172.187.147 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:20 < dario> ... strike 8-)
14:33   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
14:33 < pm215_> legal issue> I'd be highly surprised if there was not at least some bit of code in there where making only a binary available was a problem
14:34   ogra_ bets these issues will be ignored until someone complains though ;)
14:34 < ogra_> especially for partition dumps
14:35 < pm215_> yeah, in practice the worst that will happen is that toshiba might come along and say "please stop that"
14:35 < pm215_> but it would in fact be illegal
14:35 < ogra_> or nvidia
14:35 < ogra_> yeah, indeed it is
14:35 < pm215_> or perhaps Linus for GPL violation for binary-only redistribution :-)
14:36 < ogra_> for the bootloader ? nah :)
14:36 < ogra_> part 2+4 are bootloader stuff only
14:36   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
14:37 < dario> what if i put a note on it "only download if you legally own the device and need it for recovery" ?
14:37 < pm215_> that's still illegal
14:37 < dario> otoh, screw it and wait for them to tell me no
14:45   <   o6xcc!53950362@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.149.3.98 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:48   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
15:00   <   [df]!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:03   <   lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:04   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-198-161.mcn.bellsouth.net []
15:15   >>> [df]!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa
15:18   >>> lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru
15:25   >>> moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3
15:35   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225007081.adsl.alicedsl.de
15:37   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Quit: Leaving.]
15:38   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
15:55   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
15:59   <   lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:02   <   moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:12   >>> moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3
16:14   <   antonl!~anton@213.33.220.118 []
16:15   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
16:19   <   struger!~user@217.69.221.99 [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
16:21   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
16:23   >>> struger!~user@217.69.221.99
16:35   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:47   >>> o6xcc!53f3478c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.243.71.140
16:52   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
17:05   <   moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:09   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
17:16   >>> moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3
17:18   >>> boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
17:19   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
17:46   <   moonlightlycos!c1355803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.53.88.3 [Quit: Page closed]
17:48   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:49   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
17:49   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B509BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:12   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
18:20 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/ac100log.txt
18:20 >>> Topic set by phh ~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Sun Mar 20 15:44:41 2011]
18:30   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051110133.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:33 < woglinde> hi marvin
18:34 < Pechnet> any news about ubuntu with 2.2?
18:34 < woglinde> try marvins .36 kernel
18:41   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225147169.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:42 < Pechnet> means?
18:42 < Pechnet> is possible?
18:42 < woglinde_> whats wrong with trying
18:43 < woglinde_> maybee X will not work
18:43 < woglinde_> but you have to find out it your self
18:43   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225007081.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:44   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-kdqwjgsiskekvcuo [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
18:44   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B509BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:44 < marvin24_DT> X works when you disable fbcon
18:44 < woglinde_> *g*
18:44 < woglinde_> marvin did you review the commits I posted yesterday?
18:45 < woglinde_> after you left
18:45 < woglinde_> or is the channel log still broken?
18:46 < marvin24_DT> woglinde_: I've seen something in my backlog at work
18:46 < marvin24_DT> not here anymore
18:46 < marvin24_DT> something interesting?
18:46 < woglinde_> http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/tegra.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7f9c567e6b95074087584672773a167224608d3
18:47 < Pechnet> just wanted to know is there is any option
18:47 < Pechnet> im pretty noob
18:47 < Pechnet> ill have to ask help to someone then..
18:47 < woglinde_> oh I didnt saw this patch from collin too
18:48 < woglinde_> http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/tegra.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bc517b59d5cc44e10f173ea96d9686053ab0bcd
18:48 < marvin24_DT> kernel.org is a little slow today
18:48 < woglinde_> yes
18:48 < woglinde_> noticed it too
18:48 < woglinde_> reloads helps often
18:49 < woglinde_> marvin hm your last commit dont compiles here
18:50 < gildean> woglinde_: the log should work
18:50 < gildean> http://ac100.tunk.org/logs
18:51 < marvin24_DT> I don't know what these patches do
18:51 < woglinde_> hm
18:51 < woglinde_> hm hm
18:51 < marvin24_DT> anyway, we should thing to move to .37 ...
18:51 < woglinde_> which tree?
18:51 < marvin24_DT> the first seems to read out the emc manufacturer
18:51 < marvin24_DT> and the second does something with dma
18:51 < marvin24_DT> mmh
18:52 < woglinde_> chromium again?
18:52 < marvin24_DT> yes
18:52 < marvin24_DT> android does not support X
18:52 < woglinde_> hm
18:52 < marvin24_DT> but their dc interface is mostly indentical to the chromium interface
18:52 < woglinde_> cannt see the commits are X releated
18:53 < marvin24_DT> well, I mean the drivers/video/tegra stuff
18:53   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B509BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:53 < marvin24_DT> if we want the tegra_drv.so running, we need the correct interface
18:53 < marvin24_DT> if it will every be released
18:54 < marvin24_DT> and .36 is a little dated (and no longer been maintained in case of chromium)
18:54 < marvin24_DT> so either we switch to the android tree or move to .37 of the chromium tree
18:54 < woglinde_> ah okay
18:55 < woglinde_> the question is do we want it
18:55 < woglinde_> or stick with fbdev
18:55 < marvin24_DT> without userspace drivers the answer is easy
18:55 < marvin24_DT> but if they happen, we should be prepared
18:57 < woglinde_> hm the nvec_power stuff needs a little rewrite
18:58 < woglinde_>      nvec_write_async("\x01\x00", 2
18:58   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
18:59 < woglinde_> args I hate the gitouris interface
18:59 < woglinde_> I cannt switch to the file which changed directly
18:59 < marvin24_DT> havn't looked at power yet, only kbd and mouse
18:59 < bmw> Pechnet: It is possible, but I have not seen the implementations.
18:59 < marvin24_DT> mouse still doesn't init correctly
19:02   <   chrissbx!~chrissbx@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com [Remote host closed the connection]
19:03   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
19:07 < gildean> woglinde_: was the log down at some point, or did you try to load phh's log, which is still down?
19:07 < gildean> i started logging last monday and it logs both weekly and full file real-time
19:08 < woglinde_> I didnt tested it
19:08 < woglinde_> hm
19:08   >>> struger`!~user@195.234.110.195
19:09 < gildean> in irssi you just need to put a strftime switch in the filename, and it starts a new file when the number changes
19:10 < gildean> and you can open two logs on the same channel in different files
19:10   >>> muromec!~muromec@83.143.238.80
19:11 < woglinde_> he muromec
19:12 < muromec> re
19:12 < woglinde_> muromec I tried to fix the power driver
19:12 < woglinde_> just now
19:12 < muromec> and?
19:12 < woglinde_> hm
19:12 < woglinde_> I peeked at the nvec.c change
19:13 < woglinde_> this seems to compile
19:13 < woglinde_> at least
19:13 < woglinde_> http://pastebin.com/Xy9EzEvr
19:14 < muromec> woglinde_, looks ok
19:14 < muromec> have you tried to run it?
19:14 < woglinde_> not yet
19:14 < woglinde_> hm there still two warnings
19:14 < woglinde_> drivers/power/nvec_power.c: In function 'nvec_power_probe':
19:14 < woglinde_> drivers/power/nvec_power.c:134:33: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
19:14 < muromec> about notifier?
19:14 < woglinde_> drivers/power/nvec_power.c:142:47: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
19:15 < muromec> hmm..
19:15 < muromec> have marvin24 fixed this in kbd?
19:15 < woglinde_> let me see
19:17   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-119-140.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
19:18   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
19:19 < marvin24_DT> seems I never compiled the power driver :-(
19:19 < marvin24_DT> sorry, forgot to fix it
19:20 < marvin24_DT> muromec: there is still something wrong with the mouse init
19:20 < muromec> marvin24, ah, yep
19:20 < woglinde_> marvin looks the patch correct?
19:20 < muromec> its not really mouse init
19:20 < muromec> its lack of nvec_write_sync
19:28 < marvin24_DT> woglinde_: ok, fixed the power driver (compiled only)
19:28 < marvin24_DT> muromec: it seems the mouse/ec is not responding to the f2 command (read id)
19:28 < marvin24_DT> will debug it further
19:29 < muromec> marvin24_DT, can we just disable ps2 autodetect?
19:29 < marvin24_DT> I prefer a "clean solution"
19:29 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
19:29 < marvin24_DT> looks like the f2 never makes it to the i2c bus
19:36 < woglinde_> hm stops at the pengiuns
19:36 < woglinde_> ah console to acm
19:37 < marvin24_DT> woglinde_: looks like your patch oopses
19:37 < woglinde_> no
19:37 < woglinde_> oh
19:37 < woglinde_> hm
19:37 < woglinde_> will disable power here too
19:39   >>> hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
19:40   >>> flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81
19:40   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
19:41 < marvin24_DT> ah, found it
19:42 < flesh1911> guys, i've formatted partition 14 with nilfs2 and now i can't get access to it - android always "checks for errors", when i push "Turn on usb storage". And then the button reappears again.
19:42 < flesh1911> what can i do?
19:42 < woglinde_> marvin?
19:43   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B509BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:43   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-119-140.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
19:43 < gildean> flesh1911: android doesn't support nilfs, so you have no way of reading it
19:44 < marvin24_DT> woglinde_: you need to submit nvec to the register_notifier to get it back
19:44 < marvin24_DT> but how to get nvec ...
19:45 < flesh1911> gildean: so, i can't get access to this partition even through usb connection? I have to install a terminal and format part14 to, for example, ext3 from there?
19:45 < gildean> flesh1911: boot from an sd-card or an usb-stick to ubuntu
19:46 < gildean> then you can mount it
19:47 < flesh1911> gildean: ok, thanks for help!
19:47 < gildean> with phh's at least, iirc ogras current image doesn't have the support
19:47 < woglinde_> marvin24_DT could you please pastebin the cmdline your are using?
19:47 < woglinde_> or paste here
19:48 < marvin24_DT> 'mem=448M@0M tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800 console=tty0 console=ttyGS0,115200n8'
19:48 < gildean> flesh1911: http://ac100.tunk.org/wiki/phh/ you can use this how-to for sd or usb install
19:48 < woglinde_> thanks
19:48 < marvin24_DT> the power driver need to know to which nvec it is connected
19:49 < woglinde_> I will leave it to you
19:49 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
19:50 < muromec> marvin24_DT, have you tried to wipe part 3?
19:50 < marvin24_DT> 3?
19:50 < marvin24_DT> what is 3?
19:50 < muromec> ebt
19:50 < marvin24_DT> why?
19:50 < marvin24_DT> I'm booting from mmc
19:50 < marvin24_DT> the 10V has some different layout
19:51 < marvin24_DT> and some different "hidden" space
19:51 < marvin24_DT> 4MB hidden
19:51   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052064179.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:51 < muromec> well, layout differences are too interested for me
19:52 < marvin24_DT> muromec: maybe you can help me to find a way to get the power driver knowing which nvec it is connected to
19:53 < marvin24_DT> and I can help you with the partition layout
19:53 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
19:53 < marvin24_DT> maybe not fair
19:53 < muromec> hah
19:53 < muromec> there should be nvec_power struct
19:54 < marvin24_DT> yes, which should be filled with a pointer to nvec
19:54 < muromec> just keep pointer to nvec_chip
19:54 < muromec> and, whats the problem?
19:54 < marvin24_DT> you made the power driver standalone
19:54 < marvin24_DT> no connection to nvec
19:54 < marvin24_DT> or am I missing something?
19:54 < woglinde> :)
19:54 < muromec> hmmm
19:55 < muromec> there always is parent in probe()
19:55   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225147169.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:55 < marvin24_DT> yes - I've seen it
19:55 < marvin24_DT> ok
19:55 < marvin24_DT> lets try
19:56 < woglinde> uh damn
19:56 < woglinde> the kexec initrd dont runs too
19:56 < woglinde> damn fb
19:57 < woglinde> error opening /dev/fb0 device or ressource busy
19:57 < marvin24_DT> no, that gives me the pointer to nvec_power, not nvec_chip
19:57 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: disable fbcon
19:57 < woglinde> lol
19:57 < muromec> marvin24, what?
19:57 < woglinde> marvin than I will not have any output
19:58 < woglinde> and cannt select the kexec image
19:58 < woglinde> or do I miss something
19:58 < marvin24_DT> muromec: wait
19:59 < marvin24_DT> power is a child of nvec
19:59 < muromec> yeah
20:00 < woglinde> okay dish needs some cleanup
20:00 < woglinde> till later
20:00 < gildean> i think the framebuffer is made to lock with single process and shit should be thrown at to it through tegrafb
20:00 < muromec> marvin24, so you can use container_of on parent to get pointer to nvec
20:01 < muromec> hmm
20:02 < muromec> nope
20:03 < muromec> marvin24, you should nvec as drv_data for mfd device
20:03 < muromec> and then get in back
20:04   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Remote host closed the connection]
20:04 < muromec> container_of would not work here
20:04   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
20:04 < marvin24_DT> at least pdev->dev.parent doesn't work
20:05 < muromec> as dev.parent is not nvec, but its device
20:05 < muromec> dev_get_drvdata(pdev->dev.parent); should return nvec pointer
20:06   muromec clearly resembles pcap2 design
20:06 < muromec> marvin24, same should be done for ps2 and kb
20:07 < marvin24_DT> ... when they are converted to platform devs
20:07 < marvin24_DT> next step
20:07 < muromec> yeah
20:08 < muromec> its not so complex, i`m just lazy
20:09 < marvin24_DT> at least it boots now
20:09 < marvin24_DT> thanks!
20:09 < marvin24_DT> how to read out the status
20:09 < marvin24_DT> /sys/class something?
20:09 < marvin24_DT> will find it
20:10 < muromec> cat /sys/class/power_supply/ac/online
20:10 < muromec> cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity
20:10 < marvin24_DT> doesn't work without battery :-(
20:11 < muromec> hah?
20:11   marvin24_DT needs to find one
20:11 < marvin24_DT> I removed it
20:16   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-204-175.mcn.bellsouth.net
20:16   <   hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:19 < marvin24_DT> seems it does not update if nothing polls it
20:20 < muromec> it should
20:20 < muromec> there is schedule work too pool battery
20:20 < muromec> 1Hz
20:22   <   muromec!~muromec@83.143.238.80 [Remote host closed the connection]
20:22 < arune> Pechnet: on ubuntu with 2.2: the sources did arrive for 2.2 but there has been some rework which make the ubuntu porting more difficult then expected
20:23 < Pechnet> k ty
20:23 < Pechnet> i let ppl work waiting for an ezer solution...
20:42   >>> ZoX__!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34
20:42   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20:42   <   ZoX_!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20:57   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
21:00   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
21:02   >>> muromec!~muromec@83.143.238.80
21:02 < marvin24_DT> muromec: works now
21:03 < marvin24_DT> and I *hate* pointers!
21:03 < muromec> i hate container_of
21:03 < muromec> damn magic
21:03 < marvin24_DT> instead if fiddeling with these helpers, I just copied the nvec pointer to power struct
21:05 < marvin24_DT> I fear ps2 send command has the same problem
21:06 < marvin24_DT> mmh, no
21:13   >>> lc_!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru
21:16 < muromec> marvin24_DT, but where did you got nvec pointer for the first time?
21:16 < marvin24_DT> from the probe
21:16 < marvin24_DT> but I need it in the worker
21:16 < marvin24_DT> so the worker gets it from the power struct
21:16 < muromec> its ok
21:17   <   muromec!~muromec@83.143.238.80 [Remote host closed the connection]
21:17   <   o6xcc!53f3478c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.243.71.140 [Quit: Page closed]
21:21 < bmw> how disable fbcom?
21:23 < marvin24_DT> make menuconfig?
21:24   >>> nopy!~kvirc@www.nopy.org
21:28 < bmw> where? i can't find :(
21:31 < marvin24_DT> device driver->graphics->console display driver
21:35 < bmw> marvin24, oh, thanks. (:
21:40   >>> boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
21:43 < marvin24_DT> setting "CONFIG_FBCON is not set" in .config should also work
21:46   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:48   >>> mirco!~mirco@pD9E57492.dip.t-dialin.net
21:51 < mirco> Hi all
21:51   <   lc_!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru [Quit: Ухожу я от вас]
21:55   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
21:58 < flesh1911> gildean: sorry, but when i follow the guide, putting new boot.img on partition 5, and then selecting 1 in "rescue boot" menu, the actual android recovery process starts
22:03 < gildean> flesh1911: then you didn't flash it properly
22:04 < gildean> or have updated to 2.2
22:04 < flesh1911> yes, i have, is it fatal?
22:05 < gildean> for ubuntu atm, you have to flash back to 2.1
22:06 < flesh1911> i have downloaded 2.1 partition images, should i flash them with nvflash?
22:06 < gildean> at least parts 2 and 4, and with rawwrite
22:07 < gildean> nvflash, but use rawwrite instead of download
22:08   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
22:20   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
22:23   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
22:23 < flesh1911> gildean: is it right, that following that guide i can boot either from sd card, or (if no card is present) from partition 14? I'd like to try ubuntu from sd, but install gentoo to emmc.
22:26 < gildean> it boots the first part it can
22:27 < gildean> but you can put ogras boot.img on the other part and use it to boot gentoo
22:28 < gildean> if you can get gentoo booting
22:29 < gildean> and gentoo is still for people who have too much free time
22:30 < mirco> gildean: where can I get info's about gentoo on th AC
22:32   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6AC2C.dip.t-dialin.net
22:37   <   struger`!~user@195.234.110.195 [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
22:37   >>> struger`!~user@195.234.110.195
22:38   <   struger`!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:38   >>> struger`!~user@195.234.110.195
22:39   <   struger`!~user@195.234.110.195 [Client Quit]
22:42   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:52 < gildean> mirco: /topic
22:52   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
22:53   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
22:57 < mirco> gildean: using google I found this: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/thread/4254095/Gentoo
22:58   muromec got dumper working
22:58 < mirco> what's dumper`
22:58 < mirco> ?
22:59 < muromec> bootloader client
23:04   >>> artemmakhutov!~artem@2001:6f8:115f:0:224:d7ff:fe2e:9974
23:05 < artemmakhutov> hi
23:05 < artemmakhutov> Can someone drop me a .config for kernel 2.6.36?
23:07 < mirco> has someone tried firefox 4?
23:07 < Isakk> In general or on the ac100?
23:07 < muromec> mirco, using it here
23:07 < muromec> one from natty even dons fault
23:07 < muromec> *dont
23:08 < mirco> isakk: on the ac...
23:08 < Isakk> Sorry if it was obivous. :(
23:08 < mirco> muromec: did you install it or compile it?
23:08 < muromec> install from repo
23:08   muromec lazy
23:10   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-204-175.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:13 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: make paz00_defconfig
23:13   marvin24_DT learns how to use strings in C
23:18 < muromec> oh...
23:19 < marvin24_DT> honestly, I'm more a power user, not a developer
23:19 < marvin24_DT> 25 year ago I would have called myself a hacker
23:19 < marvin24_DT> but C wasn't so popular at that time
23:19 < marvin24_DT> I remember some company releasing MSC 1.0
23:23 < woglinde> re
23:24 < mirco> my internal install doesn
23:25 < mirco> t boot any longer, I see the two TUX's and then the screen stays black...
23:26 < mirco> With "CTRL-ALT 2" I can switch to a second console but there's no login running!
23:26 < mirco> All I see is the blinking cursor...
23:28 < woglinde> mirco and you didnt changed something?
23:29 < mirco> hehe: good question... From my rememberrence I only changed the xorg.conf, but I already commented that change out after booting with SD
23:30 < mirco> and I added home and swap to /etc/fstab but I already boooted with that change included
23:32 < mirco> isn't it possible to enable tty1?
23:33 < woglinde> ?
23:33 < woglinde> and now magicly it dont works anymore?
23:35 < mirco> Shure is I didn't mess with other system files, I still have some thing's I'ld like to change...
23:35   >>> bigla!~bigla@e-39.vc-graz.ac.at
23:35   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95-26-75-139.broadband.corbina.ru
23:36 < mirco> woglinde: is it possible to enable a tty so I don't need X
23:38 < mirco> for me the prob is that I only have wlan connected when logged in... All system's I had before have a LAN interface...
23:39 < woglinde> ?
23:39 < woglinde> welcome to the adventures of network-manager
23:41 < bmw> ^.^
23:41 < mirco> bad thing is without a tty and/or network machine is unreachable...
23:42 < bigla> has anyone ever tried using ubifs or logfs for ubuntu?
23:42 < bigla> yaffs, or wafl?
23:44 < woglinde> bigla?
23:44 < woglinde> dot make sense for the ac100
23:44   >>> benob!5d1dc3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.29.195.180
23:45 < mirco> woglinde: how about TTY's?
23:46 < woglinde> mirco what?
23:46 < woglinde> I dont what you are talking about
23:46 < woglinde> with phh's images no X
23:46 < woglinde> ups no console
23:46 < woglinde> you could try g_serial
23:46 < woglinde> so have serial console over usb
23:46 < mirco> what's g_serial?
23:46 < mirco> ah thx
23:47 < woglinde> driver for console over serial cable
23:47 < woglinde> ups usb cable
23:47 < mirco> shure
23:47 < woglinde> for a console you need to change upstart
23:47 < woglinde> to listen on ttyGS0
23:47 < bigla> woglinde: i mean different file systems
23:47 < woglinde> bigla for what?
23:48 < bigla> reducing writes and saving memory
23:48 < woglinde> ?
23:48 < bigla> nilfs needs lot of memory IMHO
23:48 < woglinde> again ubifs and yaffs are for nand
23:48 < woglinde> not emmc
23:48 < woglinde> try google and read about it
23:49   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95-26-75-139.broadband.corbina.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
23:49 < bigla> ah ok... so emmc... thanks (didn't think about it)
23:50 < woglinde> o.O
23:50   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Remote host closed the connection]
23:51   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@93-80-200-61.broadband.corbina.ru
23:55   >>> ac100owner!51ae0bf8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.174.11.248
--- Day changed Thu Mar 24 2011
00:00 < benob> Hi. What's the deal with android 2.2? Flashing partition 5 or 6 won't boot to ubuntu anymore?
00:01 < mirco> woglinde: what kind of usb-cable do I need to use?
00:01 < mirco> and how do I mod upstart?
00:02 < bmw> a lot of questions after menuconfig, it's normal?
00:03 < woglinde> mirco miniusb to normal
00:03 < woglinde> mirco google self for console tty upstart
00:09 < bigla> and why is ext2 bad except the missing journaling?
00:11 < bigla> ah... because of missing TRIM
00:11   <   benob!5d1dc3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.29.195.180 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:11 < woglinde> nobody said ext2 is bad
00:11 < woglinde> its slow
00:11 < woglinde> and yes it has no trim
00:16 < mirco> woglinde: thx I expected that I'ld need a special cable...
00:17 < woglinde> ???????
00:17 < woglinde> where did you live the last5 years?
00:18 < woglinde> you clearly see on the case of the ac100 a mini usb and normal usb connector
00:19 < mirco> woglinde: I live near frankfurt ... 8-)
00:22 < bigla> best performance file system should be ext3 with disabled journaling... right?
00:24 < woglinde> dont know
00:24 < woglinde> make some test
00:30 < bigla> okay... because with nilfs my system just died gradually
00:34   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:42   >>> lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1
00:42   <   lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1 [Changing host]
00:42   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
00:45 < woglinde> good nite
00:45 < Isakk> nn!
00:45   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052064179.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
00:46   >>> muromec!~muromec@83.143.238.80
00:47 < muromec> ok, now i have both dumper and flasher
00:48 < muromec> anybody want to test this crap?
00:49   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051110133.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
00:51 < ggrandou> yo
00:52 < ggrandou> muromec: I've a kernel to flash in a couple of minutes :p
01:01   <   bigla!~bigla@e-39.vc-graz.ac.at []
01:03   <   ac100owner!51ae0bf8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.174.11.248 [Quit: Page closed]
01:03 < mirco> muromec: what is the crap for?
01:05   >>> soulrebel!~soulrebel@frnk-5f747411.pool.mediaWays.net
01:05 < muromec> mirco, nvflash replace
01:06   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-119-140.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
01:06 < mirco> ah I see!
01:07 < mirco> sounds great! where can I load it?
01:07 < muromec> https://github.com/muromec/putusb
01:07 < muromec> its still not userfriendly
01:08 < mirco> someone who has g_serial running? When I try to modprobe is I see that there's no module..
01:09   <   nopy!~kvirc@www.nopy.org [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
01:12   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Remote host closed the connection]
01:27 < ggrandou> muromec, hum: http://pastebin.com/SAkgc0uL
01:28 < ggrandou> anyway, time to sleep, I will look tomorrow
01:29 < muromec> ggrandou, looks like temporary error but bootloader sent successfully
01:46 < mirco> muromec: what do I need to compile the g_serial kernel module?
01:48 < muromec> mirco, ah?
01:49 < muromec> same tools used to compile kernel
01:49 < muromec> generally all the modules are build with kernel
01:49 < muromec> *at same time
01:49 < mirco> but I can't load / find the g_serial modul...
01:50 < mirco> prob is not to compile a kernel, but to setup a CC env...
02:24   <   artemmakhutov!~artem@2001:6f8:115f:0:224:d7ff:fe2e:9974 []
02:37 < muromec> mirco, CC env?
02:37 < mirco> crosscompilation
02:37   >>> soulrebel27!~soulrebel@frnk-4d01ce5b.pool.mediaWays.net
02:40   <   soulrebel!~soulrebel@frnk-5f747411.pool.mediaWays.net [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
02:41   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@93-80-200-61.broadband.corbina.ru []
02:49   <   soulrebel27!~soulrebel@frnk-4d01ce5b.pool.mediaWays.net [Quit: Leaving]
03:00   <   maxjezy!~nik@unaffiliated/maxjezy [Read error: Operation timed out]
03:01   >>> maxjezy!~nik@unaffiliated/maxjezy
03:23   >>> kottt-ubuntu!~ubuntu@93-80-200-61.broadband.corbina.ru
03:33   <   kottt-ubuntu!~ubuntu@93-80-200-61.broadband.corbina.ru []
03:52   <   maxjezy!~nik@unaffiliated/maxjezy [Quit: Lämnar]
05:25   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-200-67.mcn.bellsouth.net
06:47   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-200-67.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
07:31   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 []
07:34   <   flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
07:37   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
07:40   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
07:53   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
08:56   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-202-5.mcn.bellsouth.net
08:58   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.45.223
09:02   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
09:12   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:14   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Client Quit]
09:16   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:20   <   muromec!~muromec@83.143.238.80 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:31   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303171539]]
09:37   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-202-5.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
09:41   <   mirco!~mirco@pD9E57492.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: mirco]
09:41   >>> kottt-ac!~android@host-108-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
09:41   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6AC2C.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
09:42   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
09:50   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
09:57   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
09:57   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
09:58   <   kottt-ac!~android@host-108-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
09:58   >>> AndIrc!~android@host-50-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
09:59   ~ AndIrc is now kottt-ac
10:02   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
10:08   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
10:08   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
10:21   <   kottt-ac!~android@host-50-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
10:25   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:25   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052237124.adsl.alicedsl.de
10:37   >>> MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-214-232.mcn.bellsouth.net
10:42   >>> mirco_!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:42   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-biddcskqmvyctayv
10:45   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:45   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
10:46   >>> kottt!~kottt@host-117-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
10:51   <   kottt!~kottt@host-117-146-66-217.spbmts.ru []
11:15   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Excess Flood]
11:15   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:16   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
11:16   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
11:38   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Read error: Operation timed out]
11:38   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
11:44 < woglinde> ogra -> http://www.cyberport.de/?DEEP=1E05-115&APID=14
11:46 < ogra_> wow
11:47 < ogra_> intresting, they are the first ones i see who get the eMMC part right
11:53 < woglinde> hm hm should I buy a second one
11:53 < woglinde> for my wife
11:55 < Unseen2> Yay, just a week after I bought it the thing gets cheaper. =(
11:57 < woglinde> Unseen2 hm they were at 230-240
11:57 < woglinde> the last 3 months
11:57 < chrisq> Unseen2: depending on the consumer laws in your country you might be able to return it
11:57 < chrisq> and order the cheaper one
11:57 < Unseen2> chrisq: I know
11:57 < Unseen2> woglinde: Same store, 215EUR last week
11:58 < chrisq> hm, if difference is so small i doubt i'd bother :)
12:06   ogra_ has seen them for 199
12:06 < ogra_> since a while already
12:06 < woglinde> ogra the V?
12:06 < ogra_> i think so
12:11   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
12:14   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
12:16 < grandrew> hi all! What do you think of an idea to create a full-featured linux distro to run on top(side-by-side) of android os and kernel? Like have firefox or whatever software while running all the android stuff in background windows?
12:17 < ogra_> good idea
12:17 < ogra_> :P
12:17 < ogra_> just making it happen wont be easy
12:17 < ogra_> (and i think you are not the first one to have it :) )
12:17 < woglinde> *g*
12:18 < grandrew> I am running this exact configuration right now and it is actually easy except for no sound and very laggy graphics output which can be fixed by writing a couple of simple drivers - x11 and sound
12:18 < ogra_> grandrew, you just need to write an xserver that runs on android
12:19 < grandrew> xserver already runs on android ok, it just needs to be VNC'd to it using AndroidVNC via loopback connection
12:19 < ogra_> did you ever use that ?
12:19 < grandrew> this is why it is currently laggy but pretty usable
12:20 < grandrew> I use that every day :-)
12:20 < ogra_> right, its unusable
12:20 < woglinde> o.O
12:20 < ogra_> buut yeah, my first ubuntu install on this ac100 was a chroot with vnc as well
12:21 < ogra_> it lasted about 2h before i started porting ubuntu proper to the device
12:21 < grandrew> right. But I use debian with icewm it has a bearable overhead and is pretty usable
12:22 < ogra_> heh
12:23 < ogra_> why dont you use ubuntu with icewm then ?
12:23 < grandrew> I am thinking of it from another point of view: ac100 is not the one and only ever netbook-like android device; and also such a distribution could run even on high-end smartphones which will appear in a yearand will be capable of running heavy linux apps
12:23 < ogra_> ubuntu binaries are optimized for cortex-a8, debian is aout 10-20% slower in execution
12:24 < ogra_> and takes about the same amount of more ram
12:24 < woglinde> ac100 is the cheapest tegra consumer device
12:24 < grandrew> *currently*
12:24 < ogra_> well, nobody will stop you from rolling such an overlay for android
12:25 < ogra_> buuut i would really recommend the other way round and just run android apps on top of ubuntu
12:25 < grandrew> nobody will stop, I know.. but will anybody help? :-)
12:25 < woglinde> I am not
12:26   ogra_ wont touch android 
12:26 < mirco> Hi all, has one of you g_serial running? It was recommended to me yesterday but I can't get it to work cause there's no such modul in the /lib/modules Dir...
12:26 < woglinde> check your config.gz maybee its build in
12:26 < woglinde> mirco whats lsusb saying on your desktop when you connect the ac100?
12:27 < mirco> woglinde thx, I'll do sa later but as it wasn't listed when running lsmod I don't expect it to be built in... is it possible replaced by g_cdc?
12:27   ogra_ thinks he remembers there were build issues with tegra OTG on the original .29 kernel
12:27 < mirco> sorry lsmod...
12:28 < mirco> woglinde: on my mac there was a device recognized... I'll check that later when I'm back home!
12:28 < grandrew> ogra_, ubuntu drivers support is far from complete and toshiba guys are working hard on new hardware and drivers for android integration.. I personally wouldn't recommend trying to catch up doing everything from scratch - but rather allying with BB's efforts
12:29   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
12:29 < woglinde> hm mac
12:30 < mirco> woglinde: don't worry I'll try with ubuntu too, got a thinkpad T60 today for which I'm currently downloading maverick...
12:31 < ogra_> grandrew, well, as i said, nobody will stop you
12:32 < ogra_> i personally prefer having a usable OS on my ac100
12:32 < ogra_> and i can live with some missing features for that
12:33 < grandrew> and with 2x-3x shorter battery life?
12:33 < grandrew> Or is the problem already fixed?
12:33   ogra_ is happy with 4h battery life as long as i can do my work
12:33 < ogra_> but on phh's image battery life should be as on android
12:36 < grandrew> ow! he uses android kernel, great
12:36 < woglinde> no
12:36 < woglinde> just the daemon
12:36 < woglinde> which makes pm in userspace
12:37 < grandrew> http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/ -- said here "combine the Nvidia Linux 4 Tegra drivers with the Toshiba android kernel and Ubuntu"
12:37 < woglinde> hm sources is meant
12:38 < grandrew> phew that might be a tremendous amount of work
12:41 < ogra_> ha! finally my panda headless images work
12:49   >>> dl9pf__!~quassel@p5B2146A7.dip.t-dialin.net
12:49   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
12:59   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.45.223 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
13:15   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
13:44   >>> Laurenceb_!~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk
13:45 < Laurenceb_> hi
13:45 < Laurenceb_> whats the current state of ubunu on ac100?
13:45 < Laurenceb_> does sound work?
13:46 < Unseen2> At least the login sound does ;)
13:47   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
13:47 < Laurenceb_> heh
13:48 < Laurenceb_> how long does the battery last?
13:49 < Unseen2> No idea, haven't run down mine yet to test that
14:06   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
14:20   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
14:22   >>> kenws!~ken@elliptique.net
14:22   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
14:23   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:23   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
14:24   >>> Incred!~incred@188.232.166.79
14:29   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
14:33   <   MUILTFN_!~MLINTH@adsl-80-214-232.mcn.bellsouth.net [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
14:34   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
14:41   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
14:53   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
14:56 < marvin24> http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/linux-support-becoming-unsupported
14:58 < woglinde> ?
14:58 < woglinde> let se
14:58 < woglinde> e
14:58 < woglinde> ah okay
15:02 < marvin24> yeah, support is now unsupported
15:02 < marvin24> not really a change ...
15:03 < ogra_> not that this forum ever provided much useful stuff
15:09   >>> polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171
15:12 < woglinde> ;)
15:14   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
15:17 < polg> woglinde: hello, now my AC100 is running Ubuntu Linux
15:17   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
15:21 < woglinde> polg fine
15:24 < woglinde> haha
15:24 < woglinde> http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/tegra-2-chip-sales#comment-6361
15:25 < polg> woglinde: yes, and not complicated at all (phh and all the other people working on the ac100 have done an excellent work)
15:26 < woglinde> polg this seems to include me a little bit too
15:27 < phh> not complicated ? lolwat.
15:27 < polg> woglinde, for sure!
15:33 < polg> phh: yes, with the information on http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ , these instruction http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Installation and your package from http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/
15:41 < woglinde> hi phh
15:41 < woglinde> hm this damn fb
15:41 < woglinde> in .36
15:55   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
15:56 < marvin24> woglinde: everything ok?
15:57 < marvin24> did you test mouse/kbd/battery?
16:06 < woglinde> no not yet
16:06 < woglinde> cannt understand why the fb can only run the fbconsole
16:08   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-biddcskqmvyctayv [Remote host closed the connection]
16:13   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-snmalyagyecxmnjj
16:15 < woglinde> we setup a test
16:15 < woglinde> ups
16:15 < ogra_> setting up tests is always good :)
16:34 < marvin24> woglinde: you need to disable fbcon
16:34 < marvin24> they have some lock inside their driver to allow only one client
16:34 < marvin24> and detaching doesn't work
16:43   <   polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171 []
16:43   >>> Dahaka!~Dahaka@178-25-171-25-dynip.superkabel.de
16:46   >>> imtmp!~andreyev@92.241.108.11
16:49   >>> civvo!9ee38cd5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.158.227.140.213
17:13   <   civvo!9ee38cd5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.158.227.140.213 [Quit: Page closed]
17:30   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
17:33   <   imtmp!~andreyev@92.241.108.11 [Quit: Leaving]
17:35   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
18:05   >>> imtmp!~andreyev@92.241.108.11
18:05   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
18:05   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
18:07   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
18:12   <   arune!~arune@h-163-226.A155.priv.bahnhof.se [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
18:14   >>> arune!~arune@h-163-226.A155.priv.bahnhof.se
18:17   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
18:20   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:22   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@g226143067.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:23 < dario> marvin24: i'm running X with fbdev driver, and have fb console enabled, dunno if that is exactly what you were talking about though
18:24 < ogra_> dario, on 2.6.36 ?
18:24 < dario> no
18:24 < phh> grrr too slow
18:24 < ogra_> :)
18:28   <   imtmp!~andreyev@92.241.108.11 [Quit: Leaving]
18:39   ~ dl9pf__ is now dl9pf
18:39   <   dl9pf!~quassel@p5B2146A7.dip.t-dialin.net [Changing host]
18:39   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
18:50   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-snmalyagyecxmnjj [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
18:52   >>> struger`!~user@195.234.110.195
19:04   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Excess Flood]
19:04   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:06   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
19:06   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
19:18   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Excess Flood]
19:19   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:19   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
19:25 < woglinde> re
19:25 < woglinde> I disabled the fbcon but the kexec gui didnt work
19:28 < marvin24_DT> mmh, works here
19:28 < phh> kexec gui .... ?
19:28 < phh> you need a gui for kexec ?
19:28 < phh> and hum, kexec works ?
19:28 < woglinde> hence I didnt try it
19:28 < woglinde> phh the gui is nice so you can select the kernel which is found on any medium
19:28 < woglinde> but seems I need to go without it
19:29 < phh> ok, s/works/has any chance to do anything properly/ ?
19:29   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
19:29 < woglinde> we will see
19:31   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
19:31 < marvin24_DT> phh: depends on what you want
19:31 < phh> activating at least one device that enables us to communicate with it.
19:31 < marvin24_DT> btw, backlight on/off works automaticly
19:31 < marvin24_DT> wifi works
19:31 < marvin24_DT> usb console/net works also
19:31 < marvin24_DT> so you have the choice
19:32 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
19:32 < phh> after kexec ? oO
19:32 < muromec> backligt?
19:32 < woglinde> lol
19:32 < marvin24_DT> ah, kexec
19:32 < marvin24_DT> I misread that
19:32 < phh> marvin24_DT: yeah. context.
19:33 < phh> marvin24_DT: i know your kernel is usable -_-'
19:33 < muromec> marvin24_DT, what about backlight?
19:33 < marvin24_DT> muromec: well it switches off here when idle
19:33 < muromec> how?
19:33 < marvin24_DT> and on keyboard
19:33 < marvin24_DT> donno
19:33 < phh> rtfsc ? :D
19:33 < marvin24_DT> just started to work
19:33 < muromec> o_O
19:34 < phh> but yeah i'd like to know that too.
19:34 < phh> diming should be near on/off :p
19:34 < marvin24_DT> there is code in board-paz00-panel.c
19:34 < marvin24_DT> very old
19:34 < muromec> marvin24_DT, keyboard?
19:34 < marvin24_DT> but suddenly starts to work
19:34 < marvin24_DT> I mean on keyboard / mouse action
19:34 < phh> marvin24_DT: and you updated your basecode ?
19:34 < marvin24_DT> not a special key
19:34 < phh> (to have hdmi)
19:34 < muromec> hmm
19:34 < marvin24_DT> phh: no hdmi
19:35 < marvin24_DT> (not tried)
19:35 < phh> marvin24_DT: I know there is no hdmi.
19:35 < phh> you need updated kernel for that
19:35 < marvin24_DT> yes, I think we need to move to .37
19:35 < marvin24_DT> also for the backlight regulation
19:35 < phh> ???
19:35 < phh> there is a tegra .37 kernel ?
19:35 < marvin24_DT> chromium again
19:35 < woglinde> chromeos stuff is now at .37
19:36 < marvin24_DT> .36 is no longer maintained for chromium
19:36 < phh> pffff
19:36   muromec wants xorg
19:36 < phh> and when are they going to release -_-'
19:36 < marvin24_DT> either switch to android .36 or chromium .37
19:36 < marvin24_DT> I prefer the latter
19:36 < woglinde> but again not really syncing btw. the android or nvidia treee
19:36   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
19:36   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
19:36 < woglinde> or cherry-picks
19:37 < phh> cherry picking to .37 ?
19:37 < phh> easy !
19:37 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: it's a nightmare to maintain
19:37 < marvin24_DT> better to port forward as to backport patches
19:37 < woglinde> hm rt2x00 has some nice patches again
19:37 < marvin24_DT> it was stable last time I tried
19:38 < scoopr> is there currently any xorg driver that works in anything past .29?
19:38 < marvin24_DT> fbdev
19:38 < muromec> scoopr, fbdev
19:38 < muromec> lol
19:38 < phh> scoopr: on .32, with L4T's nvrm_daemon
19:38 < scoopr> grr ;)
19:38 < scoopr> phh, oh, does that actually work?
19:38 < muromec> *on crap with crap with crap
19:38 < marvin24_DT> I got .37 booting, but it didn't detect the mmc
19:38 < phh> scoopr: yup
19:39 < marvin24_DT> I guess the regulators are switched off by default
19:39 < phh> muromec: sorry if it's something that works
19:39 < woglinde> .o(wonders when phh will fix .32
19:39 < phh> I know you hate stuff that works.
19:39 < muromec> phh, i never really got this running on my box
19:39 < phh> muromec: that's what i'm saying
19:39   marvin24_DT thinks stuff that works is just boring
19:40   muromec dont get
19:40 < woglinde> *g*
19:40 < phh> marvin24_DT: internal or external mmc ?
19:40 < phh> marvin24_DT: internal mmc should be on at startup
19:40 < phh> you're loading kernel from it :D
19:40 < marvin24_DT> phh: both
19:40 < marvin24_DT> yes, maybe kernel disables the regulators
19:41 < marvin24_DT> there are warnings in .36 that they will do it
19:41 < phh> disable TPS driver ? :D
19:41 < muromec> lol
19:41 < marvin24_DT> phh: too simple
19:41 < muromec> btw, anybody got exact boot sequence?
19:41 < phh> marvin24_DT: -_-'
19:41 < phh> muromec: ?
19:41 < phh> like the order of clock enabling ?
19:42 < muromec> nope
19:42 < muromec> i still dont know how many bootloaders do we have
19:42 < muromec> assume one in irom, and one in mmc (ebt)
19:42 < muromec> maby another one in mmc
19:43 < marvin24_DT> no, that's all
19:43 < marvin24_DT> maybe one before the 2nd partition
19:43 < muromec> yeah
19:43 < marvin24_DT> in the "hidden" space
19:43 < muromec> does it actually exist?
19:44 < muromec> sort of black magic
19:44 < marvin24_DT> u-boot also cannot see the hidden space
19:45 < marvin24_DT> ok, loaded by fastboot
19:45 < marvin24_DT> havn't tried to replace it
19:46 < muromec> well
19:46 < marvin24_DT> in fact I tried, but got no backlight
19:46 < muromec> what we talk to when booting into ctrl-esc?
19:46 < marvin24_DT> and I don't have a serial cable
19:46 < muromec> to irom one?
19:46 < marvin24_DT> don't think so
19:47 < marvin24_DT> but be the 1st stage bl
19:47 < marvin24_DT> irom is zero stage
19:47 < marvin24_DT> fastboot 2nd stage
19:47 < marvin24_DT> or so
19:47 < muromec> and what happens after flashing crap to ebt part?
19:48   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
19:49   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:50 < phh> muromec: boots to "ctrl-esc" mode
19:50 < muromec> when wiping kernel partition we talk to some other
19:52   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
19:52   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
19:52 < marvin24_DT> oh, the nightmare begins
19:52 < marvin24_DT> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=65b935aa998f8df4d96ea746110af0ad7a6f8e76
19:53 < scoopr> nice =)
19:54 < phh> have fun
19:56 < marvin24_DT> yes, that most important
19:56 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
19:56 < phh> :)
19:58 < muromec> wow
19:58 < muromec> we hit mainline?
19:59   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
19:59 < phh> sounds so :p
19:59 < marvin24_DT> thanks to ojn
20:01 < marvin24_DT> another reason for .37 is that it makes forward porting easier
20:03 < muromec> marvin24_DT, what machid used?
20:04 < marvin24_DT> the one I registered 6 month ago
20:04 < marvin24_DT> rmk marked it as "expired" already
20:04 < muromec> hah
20:04 < marvin24_DT> now I don't need to care for it anymore
20:05 < marvin24_DT> btw. there is still this bootloader oddity
20:06 < marvin24_DT> bl detects <=.32 -> machine id is harmony
20:06 < marvin24_DT> bl detects > .32 -> machine id is paz00
20:07 < marvin24_DT> but still requires a harmony machine_start entry
20:07 < marvin24_DT> (an empty one)
20:08 < muromec> sounds like misunderstanding
20:09 < marvin24_DT> on my side?
20:09 < marvin24_DT> or compal?
20:09 < woglinde> yeah collin cross requested merge for .39
20:10 < muromec> marvin24_DT, on your
20:10 < marvin24_DT> muromec: you can test it yourself
20:10 < marvin24_DT> .36 prints the machine id on boot
20:10 < marvin24_DT> and it print 3128
20:10 < marvin24_DT> I added a patch to .32 and it prints whatever harmony is
20:11 < marvin24_DT> so it is clearly modified by the bootloader
20:11 < marvin24_DT> I donno what else can cause this
20:11 < muromec> what is 3128?
20:12 < muromec> machid you registered?
20:12 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:12 < marvin24_DT> paz00
20:13 < muromec> emmm.. and how legacy bootloader knows of it?
20:13 < marvin24_DT> compal wanted to do something good for us
20:13 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
20:14 < muromec> no, really?
20:14 < marvin24_DT> unfotunately, they forgot to inform us
20:14 < marvin24_DT> must be
20:14 < woglinde> marvin24_DT hm how did you figure out that compal is the supplier?
20:14 < ogra_> compal is the odm
20:14 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: ask ogra :-)
20:14 < ogra_> not sure they take care of bootloaders though
20:14 < muromec> marvin24_DT, sounds like you hardcoded machid and forgot about this ;)
20:14 < ogra_> might be toshiba
20:15 < marvin24_DT> I don't think anyone at toshiba knows how this machine works
20:16 < ogra_> henry does for sure
20:16 < ogra_> at least how to break it
20:16 < marvin24_DT> who is henry?
20:16 < marvin24_DT> :-)
20:16 < muromec> marvin24_DT, only relable place to check machid is R0 (R1?) just after bootloader jumps to it
20:16 < marvin24_DT> there are sometimes german like comments in the code
20:16 < muromec> "henry++ tons of indish crap --"
20:16 < woglinde> marvin haha
20:16   >>> flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81
20:17 < marvin24_DT> e.g. ist instead if is
20:17 < marvin24_DT> *of
20:17   ogra_ imagines henry as a chinese guy 
20:17 < marvin24_DT> and robert?
20:17 < muromec> Marvin`s real name is henry
20:17 < ogra_> lol
20:17 < woglinde> lol
20:17 < marvin24_DT> oh - you got me
20:17   muromec sure
20:17 < muromec> you will be fired for this
20:17 < woglinde> phh's real name is robert
20:18 < muromec> i wont tell mine
20:18 < ogra_> so you guys cheated all the time and run properly suspending kernels with sound and HD video support and only give us some fallout ?
20:18 < ogra_> :)
20:19 < muromec> fallout is some nuclear disaster?
20:19 < muromec> *some sort
20:19 < ogra_> i meant it in the wider scope
20:19 < ogra_> :)
20:21 < woglinde> hm is the framebufferdevice /dev/fb0?
20:21 < muromec> yeah
20:22 < woglinde> hm okay
20:22 < ogra_> for X it has to be
20:22 < woglinde> wanted to be sure kexec image makes the device
20:22 < ogra_> fbdev only scans /dev/fb[1-9]
20:23 < ogra_> hardcoded
20:23 < woglinde> ?
20:23 < ogra_> xfbdev
20:23 < woglinde> whats fbdev in this case
20:23 < woglinde> ah hm
20:28 < woglinde> hm ah
20:28 < woglinde> kexecboot has textui
20:28 < woglinde> I will try it
20:29   >>> gordan_!~gordan@78-86-195-86.zone2.bethere.co.uk
20:29   ogra_ would be surprised if it works at all
20:30 < woglinde> ogra?
20:30 < woglinde> fbconsole works
20:30 < woglinde> so why shouldnt it work?
20:30   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B5194F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
20:30 < gordan_> Hi guys.
20:30   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com
20:30 < ogra_> i have seen kexec work twice in 3 years of working with 5 arm arches
20:30 < gordan_> You can probably guess what I'm about to ask. ;)
20:31 < ogra_> and it was broken again by release time in ubuntu due to upstream changes
20:31   ogra_ thinks kexec has a builtin randomizer that makes it fail and only work occasionally
20:31 < gordan_> Is the new kernel from Android 2.2 available yet?
20:32 < ogra_> since a while yet
20:32   ogra_ doesnt have the download link though
20:32 < ogra_> s/yet/, yes/
20:32 < gordan_> Oh aye?
20:32 < muromec> http://lenios.free.fr/ac100/binary-source.tgz
20:32 < gordan_> Ta very much. :)
20:33 < woglinde> ogra we will see
20:33 < ogra_> woglinde, indeed
20:33 < ogra_> good luck (i think you need it)
20:36   ~ ramana_ is now ramana
20:38   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
20:40   <   ramana!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com []
20:41   <   gordan_!~gordan@78-86-195-86.zone2.bethere.co.uk [Remote host closed the connection]
20:44   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g230117125.adsl.alicedsl.de
20:45 < marvin24_DT> looks similar to .36: http://pastebin.com/Ng1p1LuN
20:45 < marvin24_DT> just no sdhci detected
20:45 < woglinde_> gnoring unrecognised tag 0x41000801?
20:46 < woglinde_> machine_constraints_voltage: override 'REG-SM_0' min_uV, 625000 -> 725000
20:46 < woglinde_> hm
20:46 < marvin24_DT> I think I found the problem ...
20:46   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052237124.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:46 < marvin24_DT> I killed the atags struct
20:46 < marvin24_DT> no use
20:47 < woglinde_> yeah right atags
20:48 < woglinde_> but dont looks this bad
20:48   marvin24_DT should compile in a driver if he wants to use it
20:48 < marvin24_DT> they changed the configs a bit
20:49 < marvin24_DT> no longer separate tegra driver
20:52 < marvin24_DT> ok, this time the internal emmc is not detected
20:52 < ggrandou> yo
20:53 < woglinde_> he ggrandou
20:54 < flesh1911> hello, how can i access partition 14 from ubuntu? I only have mmcblk0 in /dev
20:54 < ggrandou> <muromec> what we talk to when booting into ctrl-esc? --> you talk to fastboot on part4 ;)
20:54 < ggrandou> hello woglinde_
20:55 < woglinde_> flesh1911 you dont see all partitions
20:55 < woglinde_> from ubuntu
20:55 < woglinde_> and part14 should be there
20:55 < woglinde_> look at the contens of ther parts
20:55 < Unseen2> flesh1911: Check if there is a tegrapart=(lots_of_hex_numbers) parameter in /proc/cmdline
20:56 < flesh1911> yea, there is no such thing there. I use phh rootfs with sd card.
20:57 < ggrandou> <muromec> i still dont know how many bootloaders do we have -->
20:57 < ggrandou> bootstrap code (hidden at 0 offset in emmc)
20:57 < ggrandou> (maybe) pre-fastboot code, as seen in your putusb stuff
20:57 < ggrandou> fastboot (part4)
20:57 < ggrandou> (optionnaly) 2nd stage on part5/6
20:57 < ggrandou> kernel on part5/6
20:57 < muromec> emmc cant be initial boot
20:57 < muromec> as mmc is not mapped to mem
20:58 < ggrandou> u-boot also cannot see the hidden space --> expected as long as you don't know how to disable it ;)
20:58 < muromec> yeah, looks like black magic inside emmc itself
20:59 < muromec> i`l be not surprised if its fw have yet another "start offset" internally
20:59 < ggrandou> oops, ctrl-esc -> initial bootstrap before part4 fastboot
20:59 < ggrandou> in the hidden space
21:00 < flesh1911> how can i correct that cmdline?
21:00 < muromec> flesh1911, via hexedit
21:00 < ggrandou> marvin24_DT: congratulation ! your first appearance in kernel tree ?
21:01 < ogra_> flesh1911, unpack and repack the boot.img and play it back
21:01 < woglinde_> ggrandou is it really mergede now?
21:01 < marvin24_DT> donno, maybe yes
21:01 < woglinde_> okay
21:01 < muromec> marvin would now receive special kernel-level spam
21:01 < woglinde_> kernel compiled
21:01 < woglinde_> with aes
21:01 < woglinde_> now lets update part and flash
21:02 < marvin24_DT> I get ~1000 mails per day from kernel-devel
21:02 < marvin24_DT> so more or less don't make a difference
21:02 < muromec> its just flood, not spam
21:02 < marvin24_DT> muromec: I'm still looking for some volunteer to submit the nvec driver ...
21:02 < Unseen2> There is special kernel-level spam? (except for the "We're doing some statistics, are you a paid/just-for-fun contributor")
21:02 < marvin24_DT> ah, spam
21:02 < marvin24_DT> my filter is pretty good
21:03 < muromec> Unseen2, yeah, that one
21:03 < ggrandou> <woglinde> marvin24_DT hm how did you figure out that compal is the supplier? --> $ git grep -i compal arch/arm/mach-tegra/ ? ;P
21:04 < woglinde_> hm
21:04 < woglinde_> hehe
21:04 < muromec> ggrandou, and drivers/paz00
21:04   ogra_ was told so by the two compal guys that built it :)
21:05 < marvin24_DT> ggrandou:  arch/arm/mach-tegra/odm_kit/Kconfig:       bool "COMPAL PAZ00 (NVIDIA T20) system"
21:05 < ogra_> or two of the team that built it ... not sure, their english wasnt very good
21:06 < ogra_> i think i told here that i met them at UDS
21:07 < woglinde_> hm my brain has big holes
21:07 < Unseen2> Is there any way to read the Extended CSD of the eMMC from Linux?
21:08 < ogra_> someone hacked the kernel driver up iirc
21:08 < ogra_> ggrandou wasnt that you ?
21:09 < woglinde_> yes he did
21:09 < woglinde_> but didnt works in all cases
21:09 < phh> woglinde_: robert ? oO
21:09 < woglinde_> phh we just joked
21:09 < phh> ah ok
21:09 < ogra_> but we know who you are !
21:10 < phh> of course it's in my commit authors -_-'
21:10   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
21:12   >>> lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1
21:12   <   lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1 [Changing host]
21:12   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
21:12 < ggrandou> <muromec> as mmc is not mapped to mem --> well, you can have either a very small initial ROM to read emmc or a DMA set up (my guess) to do it automagically upon reset ...
21:13 < lenios> hi there
21:13 < woglinde_> hi lenios
21:13 < ggrandou> Unseen2: CSD ? what's that ?
21:13 < muromec> ggrandou, if you carefully look at nvflash output, you can notice thing such as "boot device"
21:14 < Unseen2> Card Specific Data
21:14 < ggrandou> the BCT part ?
21:15 < woglinde_> I think Unseen2 is mixing
21:15 < woglinde_> stuff
21:15 < muromec> ggrandou, such common chip as tegra cant be booted only from mmc
21:15 < Unseen2> According to the specs eMMC cards may support a special boot mode (reconfigurable size from the host) and if I'm reading the specs right the space reserved for it is not visible in user mode. One of the things in the Ext. CSD is the field which shows if that mode is enabled.
21:15 < muromec> should have more options
21:16 < ogra_> muromec, tell that to the manufacturers :P
21:16 < ogra_> omap4 can also only boot from mmc
21:16 < muromec> hah?
21:16   <   struger`!~user@195.234.110.195 [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
21:16 < ogra_> well, there are some hoops you can jump through to get MUSB netboot working
21:16 < woglinde_> okay
21:16 < woglinde_> textmode works so far
21:16 < muromec> omap is such a crap not capable of booting from nand?
21:16 < woglinde_> now I need to test an image
21:17 < ogra_> muromec, no more NAND on new omap boards :)
21:17 < ggrandou> tegra2 harmony boots from nand
21:17 < ogra_> eMMC costs half of NAND
21:17 < woglinde_> muromec?????
21:17 < muromec> woglinde_, ??????
21:18 < woglinde_> chromeos uboot has support for nand for tegra
21:18 < ogra_> it would surely be able to boot from NAND if someone created a board with it
21:18 < woglinde_> omap3 has nand
21:18 < woglinde_> on the beagle
21:18 < ogra_> thats why i was saying omap4 above
21:18 < ogra_> XM doesnt anymore
21:18 < woglinde_> sure
21:18 < ogra_> nor does panda or blaze
21:18 < muromec> ggrandou, so this (boot only from mmc) cant be hardcoded into mmc
21:18 < woglinde_> ogra they wanted to simplify the boot-process
21:19 < ogra_> woglinde_, nope, non NAND on the XM ... there were some rare pre-prod. board that had it
21:19 < woglinde_> to many user which weren cable to use the nand right
21:19 < ggrandou> sure, so let's say we don't know ;)
21:19   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:19 < muromec> ggrandou, we can speculate looking at nvflash binary
21:19 < woglinde_> ogra jkridner says there are few batches which have nand
21:19 < flesh1911> why make_bootimg segfaults after `make_bootimg newboot.img zImage initrd.img -c "mem=448M@0M nvmem=64M@448M vmalloc=320M video=tegrafb tegraboot=sdmmc"` ? on Gentoo amd64
21:19 < ogra_> woglinde_, yes, the pre production ones i referred to above, i dont think you can buy them
21:20 < woglinde_> flesh1911 use abootimg
21:20 < muromec> "emmc, spi, ide, nand" string one after other sure interesting
21:20 < ggrandou> don't know enough, but is there any possible way to have mmc mapped as memory, even if bandwidth is crap ?
21:20 < muromec> *strings
21:20 < woglinde_> ogra I would have done the same
21:20 < ggrandou> I thought to have already seen that
21:20 < woglinde_> booting from sd or microsd is okay
21:20 < ogra_> woglinde_, sure, its cool
21:20 < ogra_> i like it too
21:20 < ogra_> i would more like to have proper USB disk boot though
21:20 < ggrandou> flesh1911: 'cause you're using a very old bootimg release
21:21 < flesh1911> ok, thanks
21:21 < muromec> ogra_, try to reconfigure zero-level boot
21:21 < ggrandou> http://gitorious.org/ac100/abootimg
21:22 < muromec>    --setbootdevconfig N
21:22 < muromec>        sets the boot device config fuse value either hex or decimal
21:22 < muromec> fuse
21:23 < ggrandou> yes, but you still need something running to set it up ;)
21:24   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
21:25 < ggrandou> I know one founder brave enough to build initial bootstrap code in embedded ROM (and live with embedded bugs)
21:25 < ggrandou> I don't know for others
21:25 < muromec> motorola does so
21:25 < muromec> well, freescale
21:25 < ggrandou> not the one I was thinking about ;)
21:26 < Unseen2> Microsoft/nVidia on the original Xbox?
21:26 < muromec> ggrandou, where can bootstrap code reside except rom and nor?
21:26 < muromec> as we have no nor
21:28 < flesh1911> excuse me, but why abootimg complains about "mem: bad config entry" when i try to update existing boot.img with new cmdline?
21:28 < ggrandou> memory mapped flash ?
21:28 < muromec> ggrandou, "nor" ?
21:28 < ggrandou> flesh1911: because your command line is buggy ? what's your command line ?
21:29 < flesh1911> for now, it's a copy of old one:
21:29 < flesh1911> "mem=448M@0M nvmem=64M@448M vmalloc=320M video=tegrafb tegraboot=sdmmc"
21:29 < ggrandou> I'm still not sure that mmc cannot be seen as memory mapped
21:29   >>> clopof!~Miranda@ppp91-76-35-133.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
21:29   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
21:29 < muromec> ggrandou, nere seen such a design
21:30 < ggrandou> flesh1911: abootimg -u newboot.img -c "cmdline=mem=448M@0M nvmem=64M@448M vmalloc=320M video=tegrafb tegraboot=sdmmc"
21:30 < ggrandou> RTFM ;)
21:30 < flesh1911> sorry mate
21:31   muromec remembers nice embedded bug in netpunes rom
21:32 < muromec> guys just missed usb buffer address, so all traffic from bootloader was zeroed
21:33   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6A860.dip.t-dialin.net
21:34   ggrandou back in a couple of hours
21:37 < muromec> marvin24_DT, can our .36 go to suspend?
21:38 < muromec> welll.. and return back
21:38 < marvin24_DT> no - yours?
21:38 < marvin24_DT> I think suspend is the last thing to get working
21:38 < marvin24_DT> from the difficulty point of view
21:38 < muromec> never checked this
21:39 < marvin24_DT> it requires some bootloader magic
21:39   >>> gogabr!~goga@108-73-1-185.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net
21:39 < muromec> ah...
21:39 < muromec> return point address?
21:39 < marvin24_DT> e.g. some special code submitted by the bl (lp0_vec= ...)
21:39 < marvin24_DT> I thinks it's both, enter and leave
21:40 < marvin24_DT> but I don't know the correct address
21:40 < marvin24_DT> (maybe in the atags or so)
21:41   muromec have atags dumped
21:43 < marvin24_DT> the format of the struct (or longs) is docu in some setup file
21:43 < marvin24_DT> donno where anymore
21:43 < marvin24_DT> but the last was a pointer to lp0
21:43 < marvin24_DT> was it?
21:45 < muromec> [42949373.580000] tag: 10000=0x1c032000
21:45 < muromec> [42949373.580000] tag: 10001=0x1c29c000
21:45 < muromec> [42949373.580000] tag: 10002=0x1c29e000
21:45 < muromec> [42949373.580000] tag: 4=0x10001 (SHMOO ????)
21:45 < muromec> [42949373.970000] tag: 7=0x10002 (WARMBOOT)
21:45 < muromec> [42949374.320000] tag: 3=0x10000 (FBMEM)
21:46 < scoopr> boot shmoot
21:47 < muromec> shmoo should be for inter-processor communication
21:47   muromec just guessed
21:54   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
21:54   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:57 < marvin24_DT> mmh, complicated stuff
21:59 < woglinde_> hm I hope my sdhc reader will work today
22:03   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
22:06 < woglinde_> hm okay
22:06 < woglinde_> kexec didnt works
22:09 < woglinde_> hm or cmdline is wrong
22:20 < scoopr> man.. with the ac100, I've come to appreciate the various fullscreen modes several apps have.. latest is in pdf viewer
22:26   >>> Jhaal!~jhaal@sln87-1-78-246-88-24.fbx.proxad.net
22:26   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
22:27 < Jhaal> b'soir
22:28 < woglinde_> what?
22:28 < woglinde_> glück auf
22:29   <   Jhaal!~jhaal@sln87-1-78-246-88-24.fbx.proxad.net []
22:42 < woglinde_> hm someone has the cmdline for the android 2.2 athand?
22:43   >>> kottt!~kottt@host-134-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
22:44   ~ kottt is now kottt-ac
22:47 < Unseen2> woglinde_: <5>[    0.000000] Kernel command line: mem=384M@0M nvmem=128M@384M vmalloc=256M video=tegrafb console=ttyS0,115200n8 usbcore.old_scheme_first=1 tegraboot=sdmmc tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800,system:1f00:25800:800,cache:27700:32000:800,misc:59700:400:800,store:59c00:9a600:800,userdata:f4300:2c5500:800
22:48 < woglinde_> unseen which model you have?
22:48 < Unseen2> 10V
22:49 < woglinde_> okay
22:49 < woglinde_> I have this too
22:49 < woglinde_> lets try kexec again
22:52 < woglinde_> okay
22:52 < woglinde_> dont works
22:52   <   kottt-ac!~kottt@host-134-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
22:53   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
23:00   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:01   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
23:05   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@g226143067.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
23:08   <   clopof!~Miranda@ppp91-76-35-133.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
23:08   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Remote host closed the connection]
23:10   >>> kottt!~kottt@host-73-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
23:32   <   kottt!~kottt@host-73-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
23:40   >>> playmobitch!~playmobit@5th88-1-78-241-216-44.fbx.proxad.net
23:49   <   playmobitch!~playmobit@5th88-1-78-241-216-44.fbx.proxad.net []
23:59   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g230117125.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
--- Day changed Fri Mar 25 2011
00:27   <   Dahaka!~Dahaka@178-25-171-25-dynip.superkabel.de []
00:42   >>> frox!~frox@pD957337F.dip.t-dialin.net
00:43   <   frox!~frox@pD957337F.dip.t-dialin.net ["Verlassend"]
00:46   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B5194F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Leaving.]
01:20   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
01:40 < muromec> marvin24, http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=cbootimage.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/master;hb=master
01:45   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
02:25   >>> blues-man!~bluesman@host228-116-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
02:25 < blues-man> hi all
02:26 < blues-man> do you know which wifi chipset is there in the ac100?
02:44   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
02:48   <   blues-man!~bluesman@host228-116-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
03:15   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
03:16   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
03:31   >>> hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
03:47   <   hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
04:02   <   Incred!~incred@188.232.166.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
04:06   >>> incred!~incred@188.232.166.79
04:06   ~ incred is now Incred
04:08   <   Incred!~incred@188.232.166.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
04:11   >>> incred!~incred@188.232.166.79
04:11   ~ incred is now Incred
04:54   *.net <-\-> *.split: [vvid_work, chrisq, dario, svp, lepanen, scoopr, ogra_, gg, zod]
04:57   >>> [svp, lepanen, vvid_work, gg]
05:00   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
05:00   >>> chrisq!chrisq@193.69.165.197
05:00   >>> dario!~dario@domina.zerties.org
05:00   >>> zod!~zod@smitty.knid.net
05:00   >>> scoopr!scoopr@et.vaan.osaa.fi
06:06   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
06:11   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.185.223
06:35   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 []
06:54   <   SerzZ!serzz@xob.kapsi.fi [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
06:55   >>> SerzZ!serzz@xob.kapsi.fi
07:07   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.185.223 []
07:34   >>> struger`!~user@217.69.221.99
07:36   <   struger!~user@217.69.221.99 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
07:52   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.44.17
07:56   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
08:04   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
08:56   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
09:03   >>> hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
09:09   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:12   <   hyperlemming!~Vlad@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:12   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
09:15   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
09:18   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:20   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
09:20   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Excess Flood]
09:20   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
09:27   >>> kottt!~kottt@host-116-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
09:28   ~ kottt is now kottt-ac
09:39   <   kottt-ac!~kottt@host-116-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Remote host closed the connection]
09:40   >>> kottt!~kottt@host-116-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
09:40   ~ kottt is now kottt-ac
09:45   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
09:47   <   gogabr!~goga@108-73-1-185.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:47   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
09:50   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
10:13   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
10:22   <   kottt-ac!~kottt@host-116-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
10:25   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6A860.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:27   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
10:32 < marvin24> muromec: wtf?
10:32 < marvin24> I havn't seen any bct docu until now
10:33 < marvin24> is this the 1st stage bootloader?
10:33 < muromec> nope
10:33 < muromec> its flashcard calibration data
10:34 < muromec> http://paste.ubuntu.com/585262/
10:34 < muromec> something interesting: Version       = 0x00020001;
10:34 < muromec> resembles nvflash message rcm version 0X20001
10:37   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.44.17 []
10:38   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.44.17
10:38 < marvin24> why is the sdmem type ddr2?
10:41 < muromec> dunno
10:41 < marvin24> it is the sdram type
10:41   muromec not familiar with such hw
10:41 < marvin24> other is sdmmc
10:42   >>> woglinde!~henning@p5DDC0822.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:45 < marvin24> "cbootimage is a tool used to combine binary .bct, bootloader
10:45 < marvin24> and google's component to a spi rom image file."
10:45 < muromec> in chromium they generate bct from config files
10:46 < woglinde> hi marvin and muromec
10:47 < muromec> hi
11:03   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.44.17 []
11:07   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-hhyaequumwdmfswr
11:08   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:08 < muromec> hmmm http://paste.ubuntu.com/585272/
11:09 < muromec> bct dump for 32gb and 8gb is same
11:10 < muromec> but binary files differ
11:25 < muromec> breaking news!
11:25 < muromec> # Bootloader[0].Start block  = 224;
11:26 < muromec> BlockSize     = 0x00004000;
11:26 < muromec> its from bct
11:26 < muromec> now 0x4000 * 224 - offset
11:26 < muromec> guess where?
11:27 < muromec> its exactly EBT start
12:36   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.46.102
12:38   <   lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:39   >>> lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net
12:49   >>> dl9pf_!~quassel@p5B214CC5.dip.t-dialin.net
12:49   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
12:50   >>> legostein!c06482e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.100.130.229
12:53   <   legostein!c06482e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.100.130.229 []
13:24   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:24   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
13:25   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
13:25   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
13:29   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
13:32   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
13:41   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
13:42   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
13:42   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
13:42   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
13:53   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@83.149.46.102 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
13:57   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:59   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
14:33   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B508ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
14:46   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
14:47   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
14:47   >>> kottt-ac!~kottt@host-64-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
14:53   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B508ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:06   <   kottt-ac!~kottt@host-64-146-66-217.spbmts.ru []
15:20   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:26   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
15:27   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
15:30   >>> kottt1!~kottt@host-117-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
15:30   ~ kottt1 is now kottt-ac
15:54   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
16:01   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
16:04   <   kottt-ac!~kottt@host-117-146-66-217.spbmts.ru []
16:21   <   Laurenceb_!~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk ["Leaving"]
16:32   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@g230140016.adsl.alicedsl.de
16:40   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
16:43   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
16:45   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
17:14   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Quit: Leaving.]
17:38   >>> Baybal!~baybal@142.232.145.54
17:56   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-hhyaequumwdmfswr [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
17:56   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-csxghnajhfouemzq
18:01   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:12   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-csxghnajhfouemzq [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
18:18   <   Baybal!~baybal@142.232.145.54 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
18:22   <   kml!~kml@subseo.pl [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
18:26   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-dyizeguxouefxlgt
18:31   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:38   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-dyizeguxouefxlgt [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:43   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
18:48   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
18:48   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-tmhjbnzsfoynjvoj
18:52   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
18:53   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-tmhjbnzsfoynjvoj [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
18:56   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
19:01   >>> lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1
19:01   <   lenios!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1 [Changing host]
19:01   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
19:05   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B508ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:07   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
20:02   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
20:03   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20:06   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
20:11   >>> imtmp!~andreyev@92.241.108.13
20:18   <   imtmp!~andreyev@92.241.108.13 [Quit: -a-]
20:18   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
20:19   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
20:44   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B508ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
21:17   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
21:27   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
21:49   >>> ArtemMakhutov!~ArtemMakh@ip-95-223-212-90.unitymediagroup.de
22:00   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC69C9D.dip.t-dialin.net
22:04   <   woglinde!~henning@p5DDC0822.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: zapp]
22:06   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
22:07   <   ArtemMakhutov!~ArtemMakh@ip-95-223-212-90.unitymediagroup.de [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
22:09   <   harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
22:12   <   ZoX__!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34 [Quit: bye]
22:28   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Remote host closed the connection]
22:58   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225075211.adsl.alicedsl.de
23:00   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:03   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
23:18   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
23:19   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:20   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
23:21   >>> gogabr!~goga@108-73-1-185.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net
23:21   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B508ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
23:35   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B508ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
23:39   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:41   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
23:47   >>> guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-39-82-255-52-161.adsl.proxad.net
23:53   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@g230140016.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
23:54   <   guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-39-82-255-52-161.adsl.proxad.net [Quit: Bye !]
--- Day changed Sat Mar 26 2011
00:21   >>> mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru
00:25   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
00:26   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
00:48   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
01:38   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225075211.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
01:58 < mmarc__> hi guys, could somebody please explain the ac100's wifi magic? When issuing echo 1 to wifi3d test_program, led comes red, that seems to be a right thing. Still, how could we make the wifi device visible by ifconfig?
02:04 < mmarc__> please ...
02:04 < Isakk> I think you'll have better luck posting in the day mate
02:05 < Isakk> Most people here are working folks
02:05 < Isakk> regardless of it beeing weeken
02:05 < Isakk> d
02:05 < mmarc__> hm, ok
02:34   <   mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
03:21   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Remote host closed the connection]
03:25   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
04:53   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
07:31   <   lhl!~lhl@74.81.70.122 []
07:34   <   flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
07:35   >>> turboNOMAD!~turbonoma@77-52-236-41.dialup.umc.net.ua
10:19   >>> kml!~kml@subseo.pl
11:14   >>> ale6_!~alexis@2a01:e35:1392:2080:2::25
11:16   *.net <-\-> *.split: [ale6, lepanen]
11:17 < kenws> Hi there, it looks like nvidia remove the L4T packages:
11:17 < kenws> http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/l4t-removed-downloads-page
11:18 < kenws> Any ideas on where to get it these days?
11:19 < kenws> s/remove/removed/
11:23 < kenws> I'm particulary interested on the nvflash utility (plus its dependencies) to backup the partitions.
11:24   >>> [lepanen]
11:24 < gildean> kenws: i guess someone has to upload the package somewhere
11:29 < scoopr> I don't have the original archive, but I have the installed dir
11:30 < scoopr> there is l4t still here http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/devkit-250tango
11:32 < kenws> scoopr: where? It states "N/A" for the L4T
11:32 < kenws> plus "returning soon" : )
11:33   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:33   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
11:35 < kenws> it looks like there going to fix http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.tegra/543
11:35 < kenws> +are
11:36 < kenws> but probably not on the weekend : )
11:38 < scoopr> ah, I misread
11:43 < scoopr> kenws, I packed whatever I had installed here: http://scoopr.fi/dump/linux4tegra_10.9.3.tar.gz
11:47   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
12:04   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
12:04   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
12:08   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
12:21 < kenws> scoopr: thanks!
12:21 < scoopr> np
12:38   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052239170.adsl.alicedsl.de
12:38 < woglinde> jo
12:47   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B50061.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@p5B2121CD.dip.t-dialin.net
12:49   <   dl9pf!~quassel@p5B2121CD.dip.t-dialin.net [Changing host]
12:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
12:49   <   dl9pf_!~quassel@p5B214CC5.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
12:51   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f050238194.adsl.alicedsl.de
13:01   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
13:08 < gildean> re
13:08   >>> turboNOMAD1!~turbonoma@77-52-204-111.dialup.umc.net.ua
13:08   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:09   <   turboNOMAD1!~turbonoma@77-52-204-111.dialup.umc.net.ua []
13:10   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
13:10   <   turboNOMAD!~turbonoma@77-52-236-41.dialup.umc.net.ua [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:15   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:17   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
13:17   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 []
13:17   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
13:25   >>> CarolusMagnus1!~mocar@p57B50061.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:49   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B50061.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
14:14   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.101.27
14:27   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.101.27 []
14:29   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
14:57   >>> boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
14:58   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:59   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:06   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
15:09   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
15:12   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@p5B2121CD.dip.t-dialin.net
15:12   <   dl9pf!~quassel@p5B2121CD.dip.t-dialin.net [Changing host]
15:12   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
15:13   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:16   <   gogabr!~goga@108-73-1-185.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:18   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Remote host closed the connection]
15:19   <   CarolusMagnus1!~mocar@p57B50061.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:22   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Ping timeout: 241 seconds]
15:23   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223
15:37   >>> muromec!~muromec@188.115.190.139
16:16   <   muromec!~muromec@188.115.190.139 [Remote host closed the connection]
16:26   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
16:29   >>> caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru
16:40   >>> caban_!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru
16:42   <   caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:56   >>> kottt-ac!~android@host-106-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
17:01   >>> AndIrc__!~android@host-106-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
17:01   <   kottt-ac!~android@host-106-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:06   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.185.223 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
17:06   <   AndIrc__!~android@host-106-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
17:06   >>> AndIrc__!~android@host-106-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
17:07   ~ AndIrc__ is now kottt-ac
17:16   <   kottt-ac!~android@host-106-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
17:18   >>> AndIrc__!~android@host-153-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
17:19   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.45.201
17:20   ~ AndIrc__ is now kottt-ac
17:31   >>> Hexxeh!~Hexxeh@carbon.hexxeh.net
17:32 < Hexxeh> Hey, are general Tegra/Linux questions okay in here?
17:34 < gildean> any questions are ok
17:35 < Hexxeh> excellent, well
17:35 < Hexxeh> I'm trying to get hardware accelerated ChromiumOS rocking on Tegra 2
17:36 < Hexxeh> Put myself an image together, but X dies inside tegra_drv.so code, so I think I've got something a lil wrong there. Using Xorg 1.6.4, rest of the Xorg log looks okay
17:36 < Hexxeh> it tries to probe for the nvidia device and then just dies with a very short backtrace
17:36   <   kottt-ac!~android@host-153-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
17:38 < gildean> i think it has got something to do with nvidias xorg-drivers
17:38 < gildean> you might get a better answer from phh or marvin24_DT 
17:39 < gildean> i recall someone complaining that nvidias drivers don't work with newer xorg or something like that
17:40 < gildean> you might find the conversation from the logs: http://ac100.tunk.org/logs
17:40 < Hexxeh> yeah, I had that with Xorg 1.9, switched back to Xorg 1.6.4 and that issue is gone
17:42 < marvin24_DT> Hexxeh: maybe you can pastebin the Xorg output
17:42   <   caban_!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:43 < Hexxeh> lil difficult, Xorg log gets nuked as soon as I shut it down
17:43 < Hexxeh> might be able to dump it to a usb stick from the live system, lemme see
17:43   >>> caban_!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru
17:43 < marvin24_DT> have you tried phh's L4T image?
17:43 < Hexxeh> i'm not on an AC100 actually
17:43 < marvin24_DT> it has a compatible Xorg in a chroot env
17:43 < Hexxeh> Advent Vega tablet
17:44 < Hexxeh> i stole my Xorg files from the linux4tegra overlay files catually
17:44 < Hexxeh> *actually
17:44 < marvin24_DT> ok, that's what phh also did
17:45 < Hexxeh> any specific device it tries to find in /dev?
17:45 < Hexxeh> i know cros does some odd udev stuff
17:45 < marvin24_DT> do you use the nvrm_daemon ?
17:45 < marvin24_DT> at the beginning we had problems with udev from ubuntu
17:45 < Hexxeh> only just started taking a look at this, so there's some things, like that, i wasn't aware of
17:45 < Hexxeh> just copied the entire overlay over, so nvrm_daemon should be on my image, but it won't be running
17:46 < Hexxeh> is that required to load the tegra driver/
17:46 < marvin24_DT> maybe
17:46 < marvin24_DT> I don't use the nv drivers at all
17:46 < marvin24_DT> try it
17:46 < Hexxeh> righto, no args required?
17:46 < marvin24_DT> no
17:46 < marvin24_DT> no args
17:47 < marvin24_DT> there is also some script in android which normaly starts it
17:47 < marvin24_DT> is the kernel source available from somewhere?
17:48 < Hexxeh> for vega?
17:57 < Hexxeh> my log looks almost identical to this one: http://pastebin.com/s5MhUi6w
17:58 < Hexxeh> until line 122
17:58 < Hexxeh> after that it crashes, backtrace as follows:
17:58 < Hexxeh> 0: [0x1] and 1: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//tegra_drv.so [0x40575af8]
17:59 < phh> which version of Xorg you're using ?
17:59 < phh> tegra_drv.so only works with really old xorg
17:59 < Hexxeh> 1.6.4
17:59 < phh> yeah well that was a rhetorical question. I don't actually know proper versions :p
18:00 < Hexxeh> it happily loads the module, doesn't complain about a mismatch like it did with ChromeOS's shipping Xorg
18:00 < phh> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//tegra_drv.so
18:00 < phh> (II) Module tegra: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
18:00 < phh>         compiled for 1.5.99.901, module version = 0.4.0
18:00 < phh> right.
18:00 < phh> Hexxeh: nvrm_daemon complains ?
18:00 < Hexxeh> added nvrm_daemon to the startup scripts, ran happily
18:01 < phh> it can run but complain :D
18:01 < Hexxeh> just trying xorg 1.6.0 instead of 1.6.4, i'll get output from nvrm_daemon in a sec
18:02 < Hexxeh> i presume if this image works on a vega btw it should work on ac100 if you just swap out for your kernel
18:03 < phh> err wait
18:03 < phh> stupid me
18:03 < phh> do you run proper version of L4T compared to your kernel ?
18:04 < Hexxeh> oooh, good point, i just downloaded the latest, my kernel is 2.6.32.31 iirc
18:04 < Hexxeh> using l4t 10.9.3
18:06 < phh> could be fine
18:06 < phh> but get nvrm_daemon's output.
18:07 < Hexxeh> difficult to get output from it, i'll snap a photo
18:07 < phh> ?!?
18:08 < phh> i want the output of nvrm_daemon *when starting X*
18:08 < phh> not other output
18:08 < phh> i don't care about startup output
18:08 < Hexxeh> confused sorry?
18:09 < phh> nvrm_daemon will say some stuff when starting X
18:09 < phh> theorically
18:09 < Hexxeh> ahhh
18:09 < Hexxeh> okay
18:09 < Hexxeh> i'll try and get that now
18:13   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B50061.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:17 < Hexxeh> gah, as far as i can tell it's just freezing when i start X with nvrm_daemon running
18:23   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B915.dip.t-dialin.net
18:24   >>> uzloun!~uzloun@nat-20.starnet.cz
18:27   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC69C9D.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
18:34   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
18:46   >>> flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81
18:46   >>> muromec!~muromec@188.115.190.139
18:47   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.45.201 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
18:53   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
19:00   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
19:02   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
19:08   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.85.77
19:13 < Hexxeh> phh: Instructions here http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/sound say that I shouldn't be using the nvrm_daemon from the l4t stuff? Is there a link for the android version?
19:14 < marvin24_DT> copy it from the android partition
19:15 < Hexxeh> no android on this device at the moment :(
19:16 < marvin24_DT> backup?
19:16 < Hexxeh> the advent site has the full recovery image, i can mount that and grab it?
19:17 < Hexxeh> system.image
19:17 < marvin24_DT> normaly yes
19:17 < marvin24_DT> should be ext2
19:19 < Hexxeh> nope, doesn't like that
19:19 < Hexxeh> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock etc
19:20 < Hexxeh> oooh
19:20 < Hexxeh> okay so
19:20 < Hexxeh> that's interesting
19:20 < Hexxeh> turns out nvrm_daemon was dying
19:20 < Hexxeh> fixed that, now, it's getting further in the boot X start
19:21 < marvin24_DT> Hexxeh: could be an android partition
19:21 < marvin24_DT> there are tools to unpack
19:21 < Hexxeh> likely
19:21 < marvin24_DT> does the image start with "ANDROID" ?
19:21 < marvin24_DT> you definitely need the nvrm_daemon from android
19:22 < marvin24_DT> as the l4t is for the harmony board
19:22 < marvin24_DT> (which you don't have)
19:22 < marvin24_DT> some drivers are implemented in userspace  (like audio)
19:22 < marvin24_DT> all in nvrm_daemon
19:23 < Hexxeh> i presume it should be the same for the vega and the ac100, is there not a binary online somewhere?
19:24   <   uzloun!~uzloun@nat-20.starnet.cz [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:25 < marvin24_DT> it is likely not the same
19:25 < marvin24_DT> different hw, different daemon
19:25 < marvin24_DT> where is the system.image ?
19:26 < Hexxeh> inside this: http://www.myadventvega.co.uk/softwareImage_v1.09_Vega_Final.exe
19:26 < Hexxeh> extracted it with "the unarchiver" on mac to reveal the images
19:26 < Hexxeh> oh wait
19:27 < Hexxeh> there's an ubuntu image on modaco forums for vega
19:27 < Hexxeh> should have an nvrm_daemon in
19:27 < Hexxeh> hmm, same one.
19:33   <   caban_!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:33   >>> caban_!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru
19:35   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B50061.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
19:40 < woglinde> re
19:41 < woglinde> marvin did you get internal mmc working with uboot?
19:48 < muromec> iirc, he got
19:52 < woglinde> hi muromec
19:52 < muromec> hu
19:52   muromec installing debian-armhf 
19:52 < woglinde> I dont like the idea to flash and flash part8 only to change one byte in config
19:52 < woglinde> ups part8
19:53 < woglinde> args part6
19:53 < muromec> part8 ?
19:53 < muromec> ah
19:53 < muromec> use hexedit
19:53 < woglinde> hexedit is bad when you need to add
19:54 < woglinde> or you port the kbd-driver
19:54 < woglinde> *g*
19:56 < phh> Hexxeh: L4T's nvrm_daemon is mostly fine
19:56 < phh> just not for sound :p
19:56 < woglinde> hi phh
19:56 < Hexxeh> Ah, not too bothered about sound at the moment
19:56 < Hexxeh> Gotten further, though
19:56 < Hexxeh> Not nvrm spews a crapload of output before freezing the system
19:56   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:56 < Hexxeh> Making it very difficult to see what's actually going wrong
19:58 < Hexxeh> X is actually almost launching at this point
19:58 < Hexxeh> Some D-Bus permissions stuff to fix
20:01 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: the mmc is working file
20:01 < woglinde> hm hm what to do today
20:01 < woglinde> marvin?
20:01 < marvin24_DT> just the loader fails because of the typical offset problem
20:02 < marvin24_DT> (I mean the internal mmc)
20:02 < woglinde> as long as fatload works from part14
20:02 < marvin24_DT> external doen't work
20:02 < woglinde> hm
20:02 < marvin24_DT> u-boot reads the mbr (I added the offset)
20:02 < marvin24_DT> but the loader also needs it
20:02 < marvin24_DT> hadn't time to add it yet
20:02 < woglinde> hm external could be wrong
20:02 < woglinde> connected
20:03   marvin24_DT prepares .37 now
20:03 < woglinde> ah
20:03 < woglinde> cool
20:03 < woglinde> do you want my aes cherry-pick script?
20:03   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:03 < woglinde> you need to add nvidia and anroid tree
20:04 < marvin24_DT> oh my - no!
20:04 < marvin24_DT> I fighting with the lots of patches I applied to .36
20:04 < marvin24_DT> and now I'm fighting with them
20:05 < woglinde> yepp
20:05 < woglinde> will try if it works after you pushed your stuff
20:06 < marvin24_DT> git merge gives ~100 conficts
20:06 < marvin24_DT> and I only added 2 patches
20:06 < woglinde> marvin hm you dont make a inital commit at top of the .37?
20:06 < Hexxeh> phh: Getting spam of NvRmIoctls_Generic: dispatch failure in my console
20:06 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: I could do, but then I loose all the git history
20:06 < marvin24_DT> which is a bad idea
20:06 < phh> Hexxeh: only when starting X ?
20:06 < woglinde> marvin hm?
20:06 < phh> Hexxeh: anyway means bad match between X/nvrm_daemon/kernel
20:07 < woglinde> we have it in the .36 tree or will you delete it afterwards?
20:07 < Hexxeh> it's doing it at boot, gonna stop X starting automatically try them seperately
20:07 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: all commits are collected in one patch
20:07 < Hexxeh> nvrm_daemon is targetted at a specific Xorg version?
20:07 < marvin24_DT> loosing all history
20:07 < woglinde> ?
20:07 < woglinde> again we have the history in .36 tree
20:08 < woglinde> but I will not stop you going the painfull way
20:09   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.85.77 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:09 < marvin24_DT> yes, ok, if you want - I need it painful
20:09 < woglinde> ;)
20:09   <   Incred!~incred@188.232.166.79 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20:10 < phh> Hexxeh: no
20:11 < phh> but specific tegra_drv.so and deps
20:18   >>> caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru
20:21 < woglinde> hm someone knows if seaboard has emmc?
20:21   >>> Incred!~incred@188.232.166.79
20:21   <   caban_!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:22   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.44.129
20:24 < Hexxeh> phh: https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/Photo%20Mar%2026%2C%2018%2023%2020.jpg?w=ae4adc6e
20:24 < Hexxeh> That's all I'm getting
20:25 < phh> 403
20:25 < Hexxeh> oops, wrong link
20:25 < Hexxeh> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5073661/Photo%20Mar%2026%2C%2018%2023%2020.jpg
20:27 < phh> wrong krenel match I'd guess
20:27 < Hexxeh> any way to tell what it's compiled for?
20:38 < woglinde> hm why the board-paz00-sdhci.c has sdhci_resource 1 2 and 4
20:38 < woglinde> and no 3
20:39   <   muromec!~muromec@188.115.190.139 [Remote host closed the connection]
20:40 < woglinde> marvin and I find gpio_request(tegra_sdhci_platform_data1.power_gpio, "sdhci2_power");
20:40 < woglinde> shouldnt it be sdhci1_power too?
20:42 < marvin24_DT> there is also no 2
20:42 < marvin24_DT> first is external and second is internal mmc
20:42 < marvin24_DT> or other way around
20:42 < woglinde> o.O
20:43 < woglinde> hm or its only a string
20:43 < woglinde> so maybee /sys may wrong
20:43   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:43 < woglinde> buts working
20:44 < marvin24_DT> mmh, again no internal mmc :-(
20:45 < woglinde> on .37?
20:45 < marvin24_DT> yes, I also saw this on .36
20:45 < marvin24_DT> but didn't find the reason
20:45 < marvin24_DT> sometimes it finds it, sometimes not
20:46   marvin24_DT walks off to the indian
20:46 < woglinde> :(
20:46 < woglinde> hope we can discuss it later on
20:50   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.44.129 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:55   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20:56   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
21:04   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052239170.adsl.alicedsl.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:09   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225075250.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:14   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90
21:23   >>> guiguid!~guiguid@dispo-82-65-206-53.adsl.proxad.net
21:34   <   guiguid!~guiguid@dispo-82-65-206-53.adsl.proxad.net [Remote host closed the connection]
21:45   <   caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:45   >>> lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru
21:45   >>> caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru
21:47   <   lc!~lc@nas-16.emserv.ru [Remote host closed the connection]
21:54   <   caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:55   >>> caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru
22:08   <   caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
22:31   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B50061.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
22:39   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:51   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
23:06   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
23:08   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90
23:14   >>> Strogino5!b28c2998@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.140.41.152
23:17   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
23:32   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
23:34   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:46   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
23:47   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.44.160
23:54   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.44.160 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
23:55 < marvin24_DT> stupid idea to merge .37 into .36
23:55 < marvin24_DT> next time I'll be wiser
23:56 < marvin24_DT> (now I'm to lazy to redo it in a better way)
--- Day changed Sun Mar 27 2011
00:00 < woglinde> oh
00:00 < woglinde> good nite marvin
00:05 < marvin24_DT> n8
00:10   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90
00:21 < marvin24_DT> .37 pushed ...
00:24 < woglinde> okay
00:27   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B50061.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
00:33 < woglinde> ah only patches
00:35 < woglinde> aehm without
00:38 < marvin24_DT> ?
00:39 < woglinde> hm
00:39 < woglinde> I didnt see the patches
00:39 < marvin24_DT> open the commit
00:39 < marvin24_DT> 987 commits!
00:40 < woglinde> Chris Wolfe committed 11e64d3
00:40 < woglinde> hm okay wrong tree
00:40 < marvin24_DT> chromeos-ac100-2.6.37 branch
00:41 < woglinde> yes
00:41 < woglinde> saw it now
00:53 < marvin24_DT> what kind of camera do we have?
00:53 < marvin24_DT> gspca?
00:54   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
00:55 < woglinde> hm
00:55 < woglinde> think so
00:55 < woglinde> ucv
00:55 < woglinde> or what is it called
00:56 < marvin24_DT> well, the uvcvideo driver loads
00:56 < marvin24_DT> but I donno why
01:02 < woglinde> good nite now for sure
01:02   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225075250.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
01:20   <   Strogino5!b28c2998@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.140.41.152 []
01:24   >>> lenios!~lenios@82.225.102.129
01:24   <   lenios!~lenios@82.225.102.129 [Changing host]
01:24   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
01:47   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f050238194.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
02:11   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
02:15   >>> caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru
04:04   <   caban!~caban@gw2-23.211.ru [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
04:05   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
04:58   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
05:10 < muromec> бляяяяя
05:10 < muromec> вот же я потс
05:12   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net ["Leaving"]
05:34   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
05:35   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
05:37   >>> doukkali!~doukkali@adsl-207-215-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma
05:40   <   doukkali!~doukkali@adsl-207-215-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma ["Quitte"]
06:51   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
06:55   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
06:56   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
07:50   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
08:14   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:42   >>> AndIrc_16!~android@95-26-45-142.broadband.corbina.ru
09:51   <   Incred!~incred@188.232.166.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
09:51   <   AndIrc_16!~android@95-26-45-142.broadband.corbina.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
09:55   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
10:05   >>> kottt-ac!~android@host-127-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
10:09   >>> incred!~incred@188.232.166.79
10:12   >>> AndIrc_14!~android@host-107-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
10:15   <   kottt-ac!~android@host-127-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
10:19   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:27   ~ incred is now Incred
10:38   <   AndIrc_14!~android@host-107-146-66-217.spbmts.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
11:21   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
11:36   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
11:51   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
11:56   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
12:11   >>> CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B51B96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:15   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
12:19   >>> MMind|2!~MMind@91-64-162-199-dynip.superkabel.de
12:20   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051068157.adsl.alicedsl.de
12:26   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90
12:29   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:30   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90
12:44   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.16.122
12:47   >>> Chel_PT!~lamma@178.206.99.180
13:07   >>> Mumiah1!~Mumiah@91.178.16.122
13:07   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.16.122 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:08   <   Mumiah1!~Mumiah@91.178.16.122 []
13:09   <   MMind|2!~MMind@91-64-162-199-dynip.superkabel.de [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
13:11   >>> marvin24_ac!~marvin24@f051068157.adsl.alicedsl.de
13:11   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051068157.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
13:40   >>> lenios_!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
13:45   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90 [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:49   >>> dl9pf_!~quassel@p5B212E2C.dip.t-dialin.net
13:50   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:55   <   Isakk!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:55   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
14:00   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.46.189
14:07   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052236031.adsl.alicedsl.de
14:21   <   Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net []
14:24   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
14:28   ~ Unseen2 is now unseen2
14:29   ~ unseen2 is now Unseen2
14:33   >>> Kos-ru!~kos@80.89.192.76
14:33   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051068157.adsl.alicedsl.de
14:33   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
14:37   <   marvin24_ac!~marvin24@f051068157.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:41 < woglinde> gm marvin
14:46   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225144121.adsl.alicedsl.de
14:47   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052236031.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:48   ~ woglinde_ is now woglinde
14:53   <   Unseen2!snowcat@snowcat.de [Quit: Gone.]
14:55   >>> unseen2!snowcat@snowcat.de
14:57   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.46.189 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:57   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
14:58   ~ unseen2 is now Unseen2
15:08 < marvin24_DT> moin woglinde
15:08 < marvin24_DT> got the kernel running?
15:09 < woglinde> sorry not tried yet
15:09 < woglinde> but I will definitly today
15:10 < marvin24_DT> I think it's feature identical to .36
15:10 < marvin24_DT> so .36 can be declared obsolete now
15:10 < marvin24_DT> also it gives a better change to get backlight and sound working
15:10 < woglinde> hm as long as emmc and sdcard works
15:10 < marvin24_DT> *chance
15:10 < marvin24_DT> it does
15:10 < woglinde> hm why sound?
15:10 < woglinde> is there now a codec?
15:11 < marvin24_DT> there is a codec and tegra support for i2s
15:11 < marvin24_DT> we just need someone to glue it together
15:11 < woglinde> hm did you try it?
15:11 < marvin24_DT> I fear I'm not the right guy for this
15:11 < woglinde> ?
15:11 < marvin24_DT> no idea how this fits together and how sound subsys works
15:12 < gildean> i think phh has played around with codecs and such
15:12 < woglinde> not really
15:13 < woglinde> I thought its only activating the options in kernel
15:14 < marvin24_DT> I guess we need some small glue driver in sound/soc/tegra
15:14 < marvin24_DT> but maybe it's more work, if the codec doesn't fit to our hw
15:15   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90
15:18 < woglinde> hm hm I still dont know how in uboot the mmc stuff is activated
15:18 < woglinde> or understand
15:25 < marvin24_DT> activated?
15:25 < marvin24_DT> does it detect mmc0 ?
15:26 < woglinde> from the kernel code I saw you have diffrent gpio's connect to an mmc
15:28 < marvin24_DT> there u-boot posted by pl9 just loads fine
15:28 < woglinde> the sd-card too?
15:29 < woglinde> pl9 said and I discovered too
15:29 < woglinde> it only loads usb stuff
15:29 < woglinde> and even not all usb-sticks
15:31 < marvin24_DT> the sd-card is not detected
15:31 < marvin24_DT> only the internal emmc
15:32 < woglinde> yeah thats why I asked
15:32 < marvin24_DT> looks like to code relys on something on the irom
15:32 < marvin24_DT> and if the irom does not support booting from sd-card
15:32 < marvin24_DT> we are in trouble
15:32   <   CarolusMagnus!~mocar@p57B51B96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:33 < woglinde> what the hell is the irom?
15:33   >>> hyperlemming!~Luke_Skyw@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
15:33 < Unseen2> <guess> internal rom </guess>
15:33 < woglinde> *g*
15:35 < woglinde> hm but acess the emmc would be good first step
15:36 < woglinde> we could make the config in uboot to read boot.scr from /storage part
15:36 < woglinde> and therefor no need to flash uboot again and again to test diffrent configd
15:36 < woglinde> ups configs
15:39 < woglinde> hm or a kbdriver would help a lot
15:39 < woglinde> but thats out of scope for now
15:49   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
15:51   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
15:55   >>> boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
15:56   <   hyperlemming!~Luke_Skyw@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:59   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:05   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
16:14   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:19   >>> MMind|2!~MMind@91-64-162-199-dynip.superkabel.de
16:28 < MMind|2> hi all; the 2.6.37 is really great everything I need runs stable KDE and all :-)
16:30 < woglinde> it was stable with .36 too
16:31 < MMind|2> not for me
16:31 < woglinde> ?
16:31 < woglinde> what wasnt stable?
16:31 < MMind|2> after starting some process (browser etc), screen got garbled and everything died (including g_ether)
16:31 < woglinde> ?
16:32 < MMind|2> not sure, I did not have these problems with fbcon where I could have seen the kernel dump :-)
16:34 < boringname> so how far is booting with the android 2.2 bootloader or better to ask is anyone working on that?
16:42 < marvin24_DT> boringname: booting with 2.2 requires .37 kernel for now
16:47 < lenios> wait, since when there's a .37?
16:48 < boringname> ang how good is .37 kernel working?
16:48 < woglinde> -> < MMind|2> hi all; the 2.6.37 is really great everything I need runs stable KDE and all :-)
16:48   >>> phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151
16:48 < woglinde> gm phh
16:48 < woglinde> welcome to summertime
16:53 < boringname> ok and how good need I to know linux to get everything to run and get it t the ac100?
16:54 < woglinde> just read the wiki's
16:54 < woglinde> hm and you should familiar with kernel cross compiling
16:54 < woglinde> be
16:55 < boringname> the last time I compiled a linux kernel by myself was over 10 years ago ;)
16:55 < boringname> this was also the last time I really used linux ;)
16:56 < boringname> but when I have a running linux, a running cross-compiler it should not be that difficult, or?
16:56 < woglinde> no
16:56 < woglinde> load the codesorcery arm toolchain
16:57 < boringname> from where and why, I would have tried to compile my own cross compiler ... the other problem is, that I need to wait for ubuntu 11.04 to make all this, as I´m too lazy to compile a newer kernel myself
16:57 < woglinde> your problem
16:58 < woglinde> lazy == no new kernel
16:58 < boringname> I can wait ;)
16:59 < boringname> I don´t want to bother with compiling a newer kernel, getting newer drivers and so on, only for getting linux on my laptop
16:59 < woglinde> netbook
17:00 < boringname> nope, at the moment I mean that I need a running linux for cross-compiling a kernel for the ac100
17:00 < lenios> smartbook
17:00   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
17:00 < boringname> I would also say smartbook ;)
17:01 < boringname> or I would need to setup a vm for cross-compiling, maybe I will try this
17:35 < Tactilofan> hi all
17:36 < Tactilofan> hi everyone
17:36 < Tactilofan> what's this story about a working .37 kernel ?
17:36 < Tactilofan> it seems that i missed a lot of episodes
17:37 < muromec> well, it all ends as same
17:37   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
17:39 < Tactilofan> lol okay, i understand
17:39 < Tactilofan> we 're still waiting for chrome release
17:39 < lenios> maybe we'll have chromium working then
17:40 < muromec> hah?
17:40 < muromec> we have chromium working
17:40 < lenios> latest daily?
17:40 < muromec> dunno
17:40 < muromec> anyway, chromium sources are available already
17:40 < muromec> chromeos release will give us only xorg driver
17:41 < lenios> apparently, it was working a few days ago, and then an update made it unlaunchable
17:42 < muromec> its ok for daily to be nonworking sometimes
17:52   <   vvid_work!~vi_vid@gate.gaijin.ru [Read error: No route to host]
17:58   >>> vvid_work!~vi_vid@gate.gaijin.ru
18:00   >>> stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-29-132.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr
18:00   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
18:01   <   stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-29-132.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr [Client Quit]
18:01   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:03   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-87-18.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
18:03 < woglinde> re
18:04 < woglinde> Tactilofan marvin applied the patches from .36 to the chromeos .37 tree and pushed it
18:04 < woglinde> thats it
18:04 < woglinde> ups
18:04 < woglinde> he left
18:04 < woglinde> damn
18:23 < Hexxeh> Something about chromium?
18:23 < Hexxeh> What'd I miss?
18:28 < woglinde> nothing
18:29 < Hexxeh> Someone said they had it working?
18:29 < woglinde> .37 kernel
18:30 < Hexxeh> Oh, there's no matching tegra_drv for that though is there
18:30 < phh> no
18:30 < Hexxeh> Hmm
18:31 < Hexxeh> If it's any use to you guys I have daily Tegra2 builds for Chromium btw.
18:32 < woglinde> apt-get install
18:32 < woglinde> from the daily build ppa
18:32 < Hexxeh> s/Chromium/Chromium OS/
18:33 < woglinde> dont need it
18:34   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
18:41   >>> playmobitch!~playmobit@5th88-1-78-241-216-44.fbx.proxad.net
18:41   <   playmobitch!~playmobit@5th88-1-78-241-216-44.fbx.proxad.net []
18:47   <   [df]!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Read error: Operation timed out]
18:51   >>> muromec!~muromec@188.115.190.139
18:55 < gildean> boringname: i think toshiba themselves call the ac100 a web companion
18:55 < gildean> insted of smartbook or netbook
19:01   <   MMind|2!~MMind@91-64-162-199-dynip.superkabel.de [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
19:01   >>> [df]!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa
19:11 < muromec> "web companion" means "useless crap"
19:12 < phh> no it means "only the browser works"
19:12 < phh> (almost.)
19:13 < muromec> ok "useless crap with working touchscreen-oriented browser"
19:14 < muromec> first time i tried to use androids browser on ac100 i really wanted to crash device to the ground
19:14 < boringname> ;)
19:15 < boringname> I´m using fennec and this works for me
19:15 < muromec> one for android?
19:15 < chrisq> is it possible to run froyo and ubuntu yet?
19:15 < boringname> yeah
19:16 < phh> chrisq: no
19:16 < muromec> boringname, havent tried
19:16 < phh> chrisq: mm perhaps there are something that can be tried
19:16 < phh> na, i'm too lazy
19:16 < muromec> phh, whats the problem with froyo and ubuntu?
19:16 < chrisq> i'd like to have them both available
19:17 < muromec> still same bootloader magic?
19:17 < phh> muromec: there is no way to tell the bootloader load that image or that one
19:17 < phh> ???
19:17 < phh> wtf are you talking about ?
19:17 < phh> but a own-made kernel could boot android
19:17 < phh> we will just need a dual-boot initramfs.
19:17 < muromec> something about machid that marvin24_DT talked
19:18 < phh> muromec: how the fuck is that magic ?
19:18 < phh> anyway, there is a .32 kernel booting on 2.2 bootloader
19:18 < phh> that's not the problem
19:18 < muromec> phh, bootloader guessing kernels version is sure sort of magic
19:18 < phh> bootloader guesses kernel version ???
19:18 < muromec> damn
19:18 < muromec> well, neverming
19:19   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:19 < chrisq> anyways, i read above that you got .37 working? i wouldnt need froyo if we got proper ubuntu support of course, whats the main missing thing now?
19:19 < muromec> so they just disabled home button to force loading sos image?
19:20 < phh> chrisq: suspend, Xorg/3D/multimedia driver, sound codec driver
19:20 < phh> muromec: no
19:20 < chrisq> phh: ok, thanks for the update
19:20 < phh> muromec: it's just that home button boots part6 with different cmdline
19:20 < boringname> phh: that´s pretty much ;)
19:20 < muromec> ah
19:20 < phh> chrisq: for Xorg/3D/multimedia driver, we need to wait for chrome os release
19:20 < phh> chrisq: Xorg fbdev works though
19:20 < muromec> phh, and what is sos partition now for?
19:21 < phh> muromec: nothin AFAIK
19:21 < chrisq> phh: there will be a chrome os for ac100? tosh/google coop?
19:21 < phh> chrisq: no
19:21 < phh> Xorg/3D/multimedia driver should be the same for all tegra2 devices
19:21 < chrisq> true
19:21 < chrisq> good to hear we'll get that
19:22 < chrisq> hopefully they'll do a good job
19:22 < boringname> when can one expect such an release
19:22 < phh> boringname: two months ago ? :D
19:22 < muromec> phh, whats the problem to use same kernel for both android and ubuntu, just using different rootfs?
19:22 < phh> muromec: none actually, just need to change initramfs, which is kind of annoying to do.
19:22 < muromec> phh, ah, ok
19:23 < phh> but yeah let's do that
19:23   >>> stenzel__!~stenzel@p5DC69F27.dip.t-dialin.net
19:23 < chrisq> phh: if you have stopped using the webspace @kotelett.no i'd like to remove it
19:24 < chrisq> peolpe get confused and download old stuff
19:24 < phh> chrisq: uh ?
19:24 < phh> there is no old stuff on my folder
19:24 < phh> oh well, one boot.img
19:24 < chrisq> phh: oh? ok
19:24   <   Chel_PT!~lamma@178.206.99.180 [Quit: àààà!! èíåò êîí÷àåòñÿ]
19:24 < phh> chrisq: I mean there is nothing newer
19:24 < chrisq> i saw your files somewhere else and thought youu moved it
19:24 < phh> uh ?
19:24 < phh> where ?
19:24 < chrisq> then it stays
19:25 < chrisq> i dont remember, it was a few weeks ago
19:25 < marvin24_DT> phh: what about the weird security settings in the android kernel?
19:25 < chrisq> i thought it was at wetaint, but i might be mistaken
19:25 < phh> marvin24_DT: ah network security ?
19:25 < phh> marvin24_DT: fuck that one. every app will get network access.
19:26 < marvin24_DT> I mean the whole lot of different user id
19:26 < marvin24_DT> groups, etc
19:26 < phh> marvin24_DT: uh ?
19:26 < marvin24_DT> I know it was handled
19:26 < marvin24_DT> with a special root fs
19:26   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B915.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:26   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.188.90 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:27 < marvin24_DT> just try it out
19:29 < phh> oh xdandroid, same kernel can boot xdandroid and rhobuntu afaik
19:29 < phh> well no i'm totaslly sure of that, it's not afaik.
19:29 < muromec> where bootloader gets kernel image address from?
19:29 < phh> muromec: in mmc or ram ?
19:29 < muromec> damn
19:29   marvin24_DT wishes phh would try to get sound working on .37 
19:30 < muromec> its just hardcoded offset or it really uses PT ?
19:30 < phh> muromec: i've been told it's hardcoded
19:30 < marvin24_DT> muromec: bootloader hardcodes the loader address
19:30 < marvin24_DT> I donno if kernel expects a certain address
19:30 < muromec> i`m about mmc offset, not load address
19:31 < marvin24_DT> at least older kernels did
19:31 < marvin24_DT> ah
19:31 < muromec> kernel should be PIC
19:31   marvin24_DT confused as always
19:31 < phh> muromec: really ?
19:31 < muromec> phh, eah
19:31 < phh> i'm pretty sure the loading address is hardcoded in makefile
19:31 < marvin24_DT> for kexec it needs to be
19:31 < muromec> phh, nope
19:31 < phh> mmm
19:31 < muromec> in latest kernels base is 0
19:32 < phh> ok
19:32 < muromec> maby in .29 not
19:32 < phh> marvin24_DT: you can do sound codec by yourself ... it's easy
19:32 < marvin24_DT> not for me
19:32 < muromec> eah, i wish marvin24_DT would do sound codec
19:33 < muromec> and xorg driver too
19:33 < phh> and 3D driver
19:33 < muromec> eah
19:33 < marvin24_DT> for u-boot, it loads the mmc driver, which loads the partition table, filesystem, kernel
19:33 < phh> and hardware video decoding
19:33 < muromec> phh, why not?
19:33 < phh> muromec: *lol*
19:34 < phh> muromec: wait, why not for what ?
19:34 < marvin24_DT> .37 has the codec (some kind of) and the tegra i2s infrastructure
19:34 < phh> marvin24_DT: *our* codec ? oO
19:34 < marvin24_DT> phh: you said so a few weeks ago
19:34 < muromec> phh, have you managed to get sound without nvrm?
19:34 < marvin24_DT> alc56xx something
19:34 < phh> muromec: no
19:34 < phh> marvin24_DT: I really said that ?
19:34 < phh> hum.
19:34 < marvin24_DT> ls sound/soc/codecs/alc5623.c
19:35 < marvin24_DT> which is similar to our codec
19:35 < marvin24_DT> at least form the datasheet
19:35 < phh> then you can do it -_-'
19:35 < marvin24_DT> I thought I could just make it happen ...
19:36 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
19:36 < marvin24_DT> doesn't work
19:36   muromec not sure for "codec" responsible for in asoc
19:36 < muromec> *what
19:36 < phh> marvin24_DT: btw, any progress on suspend ?
19:38 < marvin24_DT> suspend is planned for .40
19:38 < phh> lol.
19:38 < marvin24_DT> after sound
19:38 < phh> ok, after sound sounds better :D
19:38 < marvin24_DT> honestly I don't know how it works
19:38 < phh> me neither \o
19:38 < marvin24_DT> I guess the bootloader has some code we need to call for that
19:39 < phh> mmm i doubt it
19:39 < phh> but could be
19:39 < marvin24_DT> there is some lp0_vec which is supplied via the kenrel cmd
19:39 < phh> ah.
19:39 < phh> ok then :p
19:39 < marvin24_DT> some address in the upper memory > 448 MB
19:39   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.44.118
19:40 < phh> but i don't think we need to knwo that
19:40 < phh> since it's already coded by nvidia :p
19:40 < marvin24_DT> but we need at least the correct entry point
19:40 < phh> well, if it's provided by the bootloader
19:41 < phh> and the nvidia code knows how to read bootloader
19:41 < phh> we don't care ?
19:41 < marvin24_DT> .29/.32 gets it somehow different
19:41 < marvin24_DT> not via cmd line
19:41 < marvin24_DT> maybe via atags
19:41 < marvin24_DT> but havn't found anything there
19:42 < phh> on .37 it's via cmdline ?!?
19:42 < marvin24_DT> yes
19:42 < marvin24_DT> lp0_vec=0x.....
19:42 < phh> wtf is that
19:43 < phh> it should be an atag -_-'
19:43 < marvin24_DT> maybe because it is designed for u-boot, not for fastboot
19:43 < marvin24_DT> for some reasons they didn't do it like that
19:43 < muromec> so we just read .29/.32 sources and find where it gets that address from
19:44 < muromec> *need to read
19:44 < phh> muromec: unless it's in nvrm_gpu.ko.
19:44 < phh> oh well on .32 there is no nvrm_gpu
19:44 < muromec> its not
19:44 < phh> could be nvrm_daemon then
19:44 < muromec> nope
19:44 < phh> yeah resume works without it
19:44 < phh> more or less, but still
19:44 < muromec> yeah
19:44 < phh> marvin24_DT: there is no default setting of lp0_vec ?
19:45 < marvin24_DT> we could try the setting from harmony
19:45   marvin24_DT searches for a harmony dmesg
19:46   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
19:46 < muromec> well, its possible that paz00 suspends not same way as harmony
19:46 < phh> something like 0x40000000 ?
19:46 < phh> muromec: could be
19:46 < muromec> as bootloaders differ, there can be no such code in fastboot
19:49 < marvin24_DT> harmony has 1G memory, while paz00 has 0.5G
19:49 < phh> marvin24_DT: but harmony also has its carveout @ 448M
19:49 < marvin24_DT> but the video mem is always below 0.5G
19:49 < marvin24_DT> yes
19:49 < muromec> hmm
19:50 < marvin24_DT> #define TEGRA_LP0_DEFAULT_ADDR 0x1C406000 /* inside carveout memory region */
19:50 < marvin24_DT> #define TEGRA_LP0_SIZE 0x2000 /* 8KB */
19:50 < phh> lp0_vec=0x1c406000
19:50 < phh> errrr
19:50 < marvin24_DT> yeah
19:50 < phh> wait
19:50 < phh> it's warmbot
19:50 < phh> warmboot*
19:50 < marvin24_DT> isn't suspend some kind of warmboot?
19:50 < phh> yes, but they might mean something else
19:51 < phh> like booting back from bootloader
19:51 < muromec> warm boot atag is 0x1c29e000
19:52 < muromec> hmm
19:53 < phh> if there is a warmboot atag it means it's booting back from bootloader
19:53 < phh> or not
19:53 < muromec> is there other way to boot from?
19:53 < phh> don't know
19:53 < phh> ah you mean warmboot atag's value is that
19:53 < phh> well try that as address then
19:53 < phh> it's still somewhere in right place
19:54 < muromec> hmmm
19:54 < muromec> as boot sequence starts from avp
19:55 < muromec> so... on suspend it should return to avp
19:55 < woglinde> re
19:55 < phh> and avp jumps to 0x1c29e000 ?
19:55 < phh> could be
19:56 < muromec> stop
19:56 < muromec> avp and ap should have sort of shared mem
19:57 < muromec> and here fixed address window makes sense
19:59 < muromec> http://www.anandtech.com/show/2911
20:00 < marvin24_DT> different question is what to echo to where to get suspend?
20:00 < phh> echo mem > /sys/power/state ?
20:00 < muromec> echo mem > /sys/power/state
20:00 < muromec> phh, sloooow
20:00 < phh> muromec: ?
20:00 < phh> here I have my message before yours
20:01 < muromec> phh, same here
20:01 < muromec> "Tegra 2 (like Tegra) has an ARM7 processor that is used for chip management. It handles dataflow, power management and other similar tasks."
20:01 < muromec> wtf
20:01 < phh> yeah that's avp
20:01 < marvin24_DT> cool: notify_daemon: don't know nvrm_daemons's PID
20:02 < muromec> eah
20:02 < muromec> marvin24_DT, you first noticed this line, yep
20:02 < marvin24_DT> I though it would have been gone forever
20:02 < phh> marvin24_DT: oO
20:02 < phh> on .37 ?!?
20:02 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:02 < muromec> what?
20:02 < phh> impressing
20:03 < marvin24_DT> 11863.422395] nvrm_notifier_show: blocking
20:03 < marvin24_DT> [12185.380728] PM: Syncing filesystems ... done.
20:03 < marvin24_DT> [12187.834963] Tegra cpufreq suspend: setting frequency to 216000 kHz
20:03 < marvin24_DT> [12187.835015] tegra_pm_notifier: start processing event=3
20:03 < marvin24_DT> [12187.835043] notify_daemon: don't know nvrm_daemon's PID
20:03 < marvin24_DT> [12187.835068] notify_daemon: don't know nvrm_daemon's PID
20:03 < marvin24_DT> [12187.835095] tegra_pm_notifier: finished processing event=3
20:03 < marvin24_DT> [12187.835221] mmc0: card aaaa removed
20:03 < marvin24_DT> ^^^^ sorry ^^^^
20:03 < phh> marvin24_DT: anyway
20:03 < muromec> O_O
20:03 < phh> it works ? :p
20:03 < marvin24_DT> no
20:03 < marvin24_DT> I continues to run
20:04 < phh> even with mmc card removed ?
20:04 < phh> funny
20:04 < muromec> so vector is wrong
20:04 < phh> muromec: the vector is for wakeup
20:04 < phh> not suspend
20:04 < muromec> phh, really?
20:05 < phh> muromec: i'm not totally sure, but almost
20:05 < woglinde> *g*
20:07 < phh> why is it always so hard to change bootloader :(
20:09   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
20:14 < muromec>         tegra_lp0_vec_size = memparse(p, &p);
20:14 < muromec>         if (*p == '@')
20:14 < muromec>                 tegra_lp0_vec_start = memparse(p+1, &p);
20:15 < phh> muromec: what about it ?
20:17 < muromec> to set lp0 address we should use part after @
20:17 < muromec> not before
20:17 < marvin24_DT> where did you get this?
20:17 < phh> ah yeah
20:17 < marvin24_DT> they changed it in the past
20:17 < marvin24_DT> donno which direction
20:17 < phh> muromec: yeah no
20:17 < phh> the value you gave
20:17 < phh> is way too big for a vector size :p
20:18 < muromec> phh, eah!
20:18 < muromec> marvin24_DT, suspends.c and common.c
20:19 < marvin24_DT> eah!
20:19 < marvin24_DT> current version
20:20 < marvin24_DT> so lp0_vec=0x2000@0x1c29e000
20:20 < woglinde> marvin btw. in 37 AES is merged mostly
20:21 < phh> woglinde: and is associated with kernel api ?
20:21 < woglinde> hm?
20:21 < muromec> as i can tell, lp0 is about shutting down SDRAM
20:21 < woglinde> what you mean
20:21 < woglinde> there are some fixes which can be cherry picked
20:22 < phh> muromec: basically: it's the kernel who knows how to shut down/power on sdram
20:22 < phh> so there has to be some kernel code somewhere to do that
20:22 < phh> no wait.
20:22 < muromec> phh, no
20:22 < phh> it's not iram part
20:22 < phh> I'm confusing with iram part, sorry
20:22 < muromec> ram init always done by bootloader
20:23 < woglinde> marvin hm why you merged the atmel patches?
20:23 < phh> ok let's do that again.
20:23 < phh> the bootloader needs some place to boot to, to boot back the kernel
20:23 < phh> of course not kernel entry, else whole kernel would boot back
20:23 < muromec> there should be some code in iram to handle sdram poweron/poweroff and respore point
20:23 < phh> so the kernel push some own code to restore its state in the vector
20:23 < phh> yeah there is some such code in .32 kernel at least
20:24 < phh> I'd have expect it to be done by bootloader
20:24 < phh> muromec: i'd say the restore point is the lp0_vec
20:24 < phh> naaaa i still haven't read that part of the code
20:24   <   Hexxeh!~Hexxeh@carbon.hexxeh.net [Remote host closed the connection]
20:24 < phh> i'm still confusing with iram
20:24 < muromec> so just read suspend.c
20:24 < muromec> i just looked at it lightly
20:25 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: I merged the chromium tree
20:25 < woglinde> marvin ah
20:25 < marvin24_DT> and you cannot cherrypick between different repos
20:25 < woglinde> ?
20:25 < muromec> well, we can just not use LP0 for the first time
20:25 < woglinde> for aes its working
20:25 < phh> marvin24_DT: you can pull some branch from different repo
20:26 < marvin24_DT> I you like to kill yourself ...
20:26 < marvin24_DT> sure
20:26 < phh> marvin24_DT: :p
20:26 < phh> marvin24_DT: that's what linus do AFAIK
20:26 < phh> no clue how though.
20:26 < muromec> marvin24_DT, try echo lp0 > /sys/power/state
20:26 < muromec> git pull http://repo ?
20:27 < muromec> or git fetch
20:27 < marvin24_DT> muromec: no, illegal argument
20:27   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225164043.adsl.alicedsl.de
20:27 < woglinde_> re
20:27 < muromec> marvin24_DT, well, i nead to read sources, not just look at it :)
20:27 < marvin24_DT> I cannot pull from android.git for eg
20:27 < muromec> marvin24_DT, dont pull, fetch it
20:28 < marvin24_DT> for linus it is different, because the trees are all based on his tree
20:28 < muromec> and cherry-pick revision
20:28 < phh> muromec: in suspend.c, tegra_lp0 sounds mostly useless oO
20:28   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
20:28 < marvin24_DT> I *read* that you cannot cherry pick from different repo
20:28 < phh>                 pmc_32kwritel(wb0_restore, PMC_SCRATCH1);
20:28 < phh> just that ...
20:28 < muromec> marvin24_DT, yeah, but after you fetch it it becomes local
20:29 < phh> 	
20:29 < phh> 398	
20:29 < phh>  * serialize into the 32KHz domain */
20:29 < phh> okay
20:29 < phh> that's some shared memory with ARM7
20:29 < muromec> phh, it should
20:30   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225144121.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:30 < phh> aaaarrrrghhhhhhhh
20:30 < phh> writel is the opposite way
20:30 < phh> so it means write wb0_restore to PMC_SCRATCH1
20:30 < phh> pfffff
20:30 < phh> okay, so it's bootloader's own vector
20:30 < phh> and the kernel writes its address to ARM7
20:30 < phh> funny.
20:31 < muromec> phh, yeah
20:31 < muromec> as boot starts from arm7
20:31 < muromec> it should know where to start arm11 core from
20:32 < phh> marvin24_DT: mount debugfs
20:32 < marvin24_DT> phh: I always do
20:32 < phh> marvin24_DT: find a file named suspend_mode in it
20:32 < phh> write lp2 to it
20:32 < woglinde_> hm and yes the same commits in android nvida and chromeostree have diffrent commit ids
20:32 < marvin24_DT> phh: nothing happens
20:33 < phh> marvin24_DT: and then echo mem > blabla
20:33 < muromec> MC_SECURITY_START wtf?
20:33 < marvin24_DT> isn't lp2 the normal mode
20:33 < phh> marvin24_DT: no
20:33 < marvin24_DT> illegal argument
20:33 < phh> marvin24_DT: oO
20:33 < phh> blabla = /sys/power/state ?
20:33   >>> Hexxeh!~Hexxeh@carbon.hexxeh.net
20:34 < marvin24_DT> yeah
20:34 < marvin24_DT> hangs the machine
20:34 < phh> better isn't it ? :D
20:34 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:34 < phh> pressing keys do nothing ?
20:34 < marvin24_DT> much
20:34 < marvin24_DT> no
20:34 < marvin24_DT> maybe wrong vector?
20:34 < marvin24_DT> no
20:34 < marvin24_DT> lp2
20:35 < phh> I'd rather say that we don't know how to tell EC how to wake up arm7 :D
20:36 < muromec> well, its ec job to power it up back
20:36 < phh> well
20:37 < phh> the ec doesn't even know it's sleeping
20:37 < phh> so it doesn't know it has to wake it up :p
20:37 < muromec> wrong
20:37 < phh> ah ?
20:37 < muromec> ec knows
20:37 < phh> how ?
20:37 < phh> on toshiba's kernel, there is a command sent to EC on suspend
20:37 < muromec> yeah
20:38 < phh> you send it as well ?
20:38 < muromec> and without such command its unable to get back
20:38 < muromec> phh, no
20:38 < phh> which is the problem here
20:38 < phh> .
20:38 < phh> so the EC doesn't know.
20:38 < muromec> eah, the point "it should know", but we didnt tell
20:39 < phh> you said "ec knows" ...
20:39 < muromec> there also are various configurable wakeup sources
20:39 < muromec> phh, well, i mean ideal situation, not current
20:39 < phh> ...
20:39 < phh> and i meant current situation
20:39 < muromec> ok
20:39 < marvin24_DT> muromec: btw, the fetch / cherry-pick method seems to work
20:40 < muromec> marvin24_DT, +10 EXP
20:40 < phh> :)
20:40 < marvin24_DT> muromec: -10 rep
20:41 < phh> anyway, send Keyboard/03/02/01/01 (to wake up on any keyboard event), send Sleep/Suspend
20:42 < phh> and see what breaks
20:42 < muromec> iirc we send something like "wake up on any event"
20:42 < muromec> not sure though
20:42 < phh> it's not a problem doing the call two times :D
20:43   muromec compiling chromium last 8 hours
20:44 < Hexxeh> muromec: The browser or the OS?
20:44 < muromec> browser
20:44 < muromec> whts
20:45 < muromec> whats special in os?
20:45 < Hexxeh> I have OS Chromium versions
20:45 < muromec> same browser with nice login screen
20:45 < Hexxeh> But they're slightly different.
20:45 < Hexxeh> Pretty much
20:45 < phh> muromec: they might have serices that doesn't eat 100 wakeup/second
20:46 < muromec> phh, ???
20:46 < phh> services*
20:46 < phh> muromec: well on ubuntu netbook thing, the included apps wakes up the cpu way too often
20:46 < muromec> ah
20:46 < muromec> thats why i purged gnome-desktop out
20:47 < phh> fair enough
20:47 < muromec> btw, using debian now
20:47 < muromec> armhf
20:48 < muromec> only problem here is lack of browser
20:48 < phh> ff4 ?
20:48 < muromec> as i use two apps and browser is second of them
20:48 < muromec> phh, >debian
20:48 < phh> no ff4 in debian ?
20:49 < muromec> there should be ff2 i think
20:49 < phh> lolwat ?
20:49 < muromec> well, ok 3.5
20:49 < phh> ah.
20:49 < muromec> and its not compiled for armhf
20:49   ~ ale6_ is now ale6
20:49 < muromec> btw, ff4 is sloow two
20:49 < phh> ah ?
20:49 < phh> pfff
20:50 < muromec> well, on fbdev
20:50 < phh> ah
20:50 < muromec> chromium is faster even on fbdev
20:51 < muromec> not so much code from `90s
20:54   <   Kos-ru!~kos@80.89.192.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
21:01   <   lenios_!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:03   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
21:08   ~ woglinde_ is now woglinde
21:18   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Quit: steelrat]
21:20   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225164140.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:23   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225164043.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:23   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
21:30   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225147004.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:33   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225164140.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:34   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225147004.adsl.alicedsl.de [Client Quit]
21:34   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225147004.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:40   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
21:57 < flesh1911> Please share test-ec.c source file. It's not longer available at http://www.telecom-paristech.fr/~husson/AC100/test-ec.c
21:57   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225147004.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:57 < phh> flesh1911: open /dev/ec_odm
21:57 < phh> ioctl(result of open, first argument, second argument)
21:59 < phh> OUCH
21:59   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052232086.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:59 < phh> it's my school's nfs server that is dead
22:00 < phh> flesh1911: http://pastebin.com/768sMbL2
22:00 < phh> if(!fd), who is stupid enough to do that
22:00 < phh> (ah yeah. me.)
22:01 < flesh1911> thanks!
22:02 < phh> flesh1911: but I feel like you've got outdated informations if you're asking that
22:03 < flesh1911> I am running 2.6.29 on gentoo, and just wanted to turn backlight off, as I'm using ssh anyway
22:03 < phh> well ok then
22:04 < phh> flesh1911: you're using it just as a cheap arm board ?
22:05 < flesh1911> it's actually cheap here in Russia. Payed like 200 bucks for it.
22:05 < phh> flesh1911: well, second hand here it's 100€ :D
22:05 < phh> well, if you've got the 32GB/3G it's way better.
22:06 < flesh1911> nah, 8gb/wi-fi/bt, for now, i want to install some lightweight graphic environment like xfce, then it will be more fun without ssh
22:07 < phh> ah you're building everything ?
22:07 < flesh1911> yea, but programs like vim and openssh are segfaulting right at startup
22:07 < phh> flesh1911: SIGILL ?
22:08 < phh> flesh1911: I'd say you're building stuff with -mfp=neon
22:08 < flesh1911> seems like that:
22:08 < flesh1911> ac100-tux1 ~ # vi
22:08 < flesh1911> Segmentation fault
22:08 < phh> ah. segfault.
22:08 < phh> more complicated.
22:08 < flesh1911> used stage3 from autobuilt stage3-armv7a_hardfp-20110219.tar.bz2
22:09 < phh> flesh1911: check if it's built with neon or not
22:10 < flesh1911> CFLAGS are "-O2 -pipe -march=armv7-a -mfpu=vfpv3-d16 -mfloat-abi=hard"
22:12 < muromec> mine debian bult same way
22:12 < phh> ok
22:12 < phh> so no neon problem.
22:12 < phh> flesh1911: strace ? :D
22:12 < phh> muromec: there are repos of such a debian ?
22:13 < muromec> phh, eah
22:13 < phh> interesting
22:13 < muromec> armhf on debian-ports.org
22:14 < muromec> build by guys from genesi
22:14 < muromec> default hostname here if efikamx
22:14 < muromec> *is
22:17 < flesh1911> http://pastebin.com/UU7NP4gP
22:17 < muromec> gdb bt dis
22:17 < muromec> ftw
22:18 < muromec> segfault indicates abi differencies
22:18 < phh> true
22:18 < flesh1911> when i try running in gdb, it gives: infrun.c:2966: internal-error: handle_inferior_event: Assertion `inf' failed.
22:18 < muromec> differenct struct padding in lib and app
22:19 < flesh1911> and "A problem internal to GDB has been detected,"
22:19 < muromec> well, with nonworking gdb...
22:19 < phh> :D
22:19 < muromec> just throw this image out
22:20 < flesh1911> i am reemerging system now, wondering why some programs work and others don't
22:20 < muromec> because you braked abi
22:21 < flesh1911> could a kernel be a problem? Using 2.6.29. And apparently this stage3 image was generated using newer kernel headers.
22:22 < muromec> nope
22:25 < flesh1911> bljad, glibc build failed also..
22:26 < woglinde> hm hm what about the erratas in the kernel for a9
22:27 < woglinde> ARM errata: Faulty hazard checking in the Store Buffer may lead to data corruption
22:27 < phh> or the problem that ogra has as well.
22:27 < woglinde> do we know what revision we have?
22:28 < flesh1911> revision of what, exactly?
22:37 < woglinde> our cortex-a9 chip
22:38 < phh> dmesg
22:38 < phh> iirc
22:39 < phh> (i mean it's in dmesg of course.)
22:39 < phh> <4>[    0.000000] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [411fc090] revision 0 (ARMv7), cr=10c5387f
22:39 < muromec> revision 0 ?
22:39 < muromec> armv7?
22:40 < woglinde> avp
22:40 < woglinde> ahno
22:40 < phh> woglinde: avp is arm7
22:40 < woglinde> its right
22:40 < phh> not armv7.
22:40 < woglinde> yes
22:40 < phh> I thought it's armv7a though
22:40 < phh> but I don't know the difference
22:40 < phh> so .... :D
22:40 < woglinde> yes
22:40 < woglinde> hm
22:41 < muromec> ah really, that damn numbering
22:41 < muromec> again forgot about
22:43 < woglinde> yes
22:43 < woglinde> arm11 soc is slower than cortex-a9
22:43 < phh> and cortex-A9 are armv7
22:43 < phh> <3 numbering
22:44 < woglinde> hm arm11 was v5 or so
22:44 < phh> yeah v5
22:44 < phh> I don't know what's the other name of armv6 though
22:44 < phh> or armv6 is arm11 ?
22:44 < phh> meeeeeeeeeeeeh
22:44 < phh> wikipedia.
22:45 < phh> ok fail, armv5 is arm9
22:45 < phh> arm11 is armv6
22:46   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:49 < woglinde> hehe
22:50 < gildean> it's nice that they're not confusing or anything
22:55   <   muromec!~muromec@188.115.190.139 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:07   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
23:13 < flesh1911> second a in armv7a means application, while there are others like r (realtime) and c (controller). Something like that.
23:14 < phh> ah ok
23:14 < muromec> sounds like marketing bullshit
23:14 < woglinde> vtz
23:15 < phh> muromec: no
23:15 < phh> ask wikipedia
23:15 < muromec> a havent compiled browser yet
23:15 < muromec> how can i?
23:15 < phh> Cortex-A, Cortex-R, Cortex-M
23:15 < phh> muromec: lynx ?
23:16 < phh> wget ?
23:16 < phh> curl ?
23:16 < phh> telnet ?
23:16 < phh> nc ?
23:16 < muromec> yeah as i dont read browser, but read internet
23:17 < phh> anyway, Cortex-R has less features than -A
23:17 < phh> and -M less than -R
23:18 < muromec> m stands for mobile?
23:18 < phh> i hope not -_-'
23:18 < muromec> if true, i was right
23:19 < phh> microcontroler
23:19 < muromec> ah, well
23:20 < phh> -M0 doesn't even have hardware division
23:20 < phh> and is called ARMv6
23:21 < muromec> damn
23:21 < muromec> kill them all
23:21 < muromec> with flaming death
23:23 < woglinde> *g*
23:34 < marvin24_DT> you just killed my wifi :-(
23:34   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
23:34 < marvin24_DT> I'll send you a rfkill back
23:34 < marvin24_DT> yes!
23:38 < phh> lolwat
23:38 < woglinde> *g*
23:38 < woglinde> hrms
23:38 < woglinde> here it dont boots from sdcard
23:38 < woglinde> partition is found
23:43   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:44 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: u-boot?
23:44 < woglinde> no
23:44 < woglinde> .37
23:44 < woglinde> maybee my initrd is wrong
23:44 < woglinde> its the one from phh .39 image
23:45 < marvin24_DT> wow .39
23:45 < phh> :)
23:45 < woglinde> ups
23:45 < woglinde> 29
23:45 < woglinde> hm cmdline is
23:45 < woglinde>  mem=448M@0M tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800 console=tty0 console=ttyGS0,115200n8 tegraboot=sdmmc
23:45 < marvin24_DT> .37 has the mmc ids switched
23:45 < woglinde> that should work?
23:45 < phh> woglinde: it appears as mmcblk0p1 ?
23:45 < marvin24_DT> mem=448M is enough
23:45 < phh> mmcblk1*
23:45 < woglinde> hm mom
23:45 < woglinde> ps2 debug
23:45 < woglinde> spams to much
23:46 < marvin24_DT> it has
23:46   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:46 < flesh1911> (About segfaulting apps on gentoo hardfloat): ok, i've updated my rootfs with more recent stage3: now the gdb works without internal errors. Is it a good sign? ssh and vi are still segfaulting though.
23:46 < marvin24_DT> you need to adjust it
23:46 < woglinde> hm right
23:46 < woglinde> is switched
23:47 < marvin24_DT> I know it's not logical
23:47 < marvin24_DT> blame someone else
23:48 < woglinde> hm looking at the initrd init
23:49 < woglinde> it comment out the rootdev search anyway
23:49   woglinde blames phh
23:49 < phh> comment out what ?
23:50 < woglinde> hm than its orga
23:50 < woglinde> there is for loop searches diffrent partitions for init
23:50 < phh> yeah
23:50 < phh> what about it ?
23:50 < woglinde> its comment out here
23:50 < phh> ????
23:50 < woglinde> hm maybee I was it
23:51 < phh> yeah
23:51 < phh> that's more likely
23:51   woglinde blames himself
23:51 < woglinde> *g*
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--- Day changed Mon Mar 28 2011
00:04   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.44.118 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
00:08   ~ Zaek is now Isakk
00:24   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052232086.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
00:25   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76
00:47   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
00:52   >>> bigla!~bigla@e-221.vc-graz.ac.at
01:02 < bigla> any news about ubuntu 11.04 having better support for ac100`
01:02 < bigla> ?
01:02 < bigla> (or built in support)
01:16   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
01:29   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
01:40 < bigla> can someone tell me if ext4 is working with the bootloader?
01:40 < bigla> i mean with boot.img from phh?
01:40 < phh> not mine IIRC
01:41 < bigla> phh: uh... :/  i'd like to use ext4 without journaling
01:41 < phh> yeah just use nilfs2 as everyone
01:41 < phh> ogra's kernel has ext4dev (as of .29)
01:42 < bigla> i tried it - but it slowed down my ac so much
01:42 < bigla> when i wanted to install a xfce
01:43 < phh> ????
01:43 < phh> wtf
01:44 < phh> you're the first one to say so
01:45 < bigla> i think it is because its taking a long time to free the uneeded memory
01:45 < bigla> maybe i shouldn't install too much at once
01:47 < phh> hum you're low on free space *,
01:47 < phh> ?*
01:48 < phh> but yeah reclaiming memory is really slow
01:54 < bigla> i tried to fix it with editing settings for the "garbage collector"
01:54 < bigla> but it turned up almost breaking my ac
01:55 < bigla> cuz it was slowing it down to much
01:55 < bigla> *too
01:55 < phh> ah
01:55 < phh> funny
01:55 < phh> when i try to setup gc
01:55 < phh> it just stops gcing
01:55 < bigla> gc?
01:56 < bigla> ah garbage collecting
01:56 < bigla> no my garbage collector did work... (but my settings were too much work for it)
01:58 < bigla> how hard is implementing ext4 in your boot.img?
01:58 < bigla> http://cptl.org/wp/index.php/2010/03/30/tuning-solid-state-drives-in-linux/
01:58 < bigla> i think ext4 without journaling would be just about perfect
01:59 < bigla> - except the possibility of data loss when turning off the ac100 at a bad moment
02:00 < phh> no
02:00 < phh> on a stupid thing
02:00 < bigla> ?
02:01 < phh> mmc is something stupid
02:01 < phh> not a ssd
02:01 < phh> and on such devices
02:02 < bigla> i see
02:02 < phh> most efficient way
02:02 < phh> is journalising
02:02 < phh> real journalising.
02:03 < bigla> and do you think its possible to mod the ac100 and build in a ssd and boot from it?
02:03 < bigla> i mean there should be room where the pcie slot is
02:03 < phh> could be
02:04 < bigla> http://www.netbooknews.de/22926/toshiba-ac100-smartbook-mit-tegra-wird-auseinander-genommen/inside-ac100/
02:05 < bigla> here's a pic from the inside
02:05 < phh> nobody tried the mini-pci-e part
02:05 < phh> only usb
02:05 < bigla> hm
02:05 < bigla> and what kind of software is needed to make it work?
02:06 < bigla> a new boot.img? settings in the "bios"
02:07 < phh> bigla: would need some boot.img change yeah
02:07 < bigla> the ac100 would work faster with it, right?
02:08 < phh> yeah
02:12 < bigla> phh: you think thats the thing that could fit in? http://geizhals.at/a424496.html
02:19 < phh> no clue
02:41 < bigla> sent a mail to ocz - to send me a free hardware sample - hope they say yes
02:41 < bigla> =)
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03:33   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
03:35   >>> chrisq!chrisq@parrot.kotelett.no
03:35   <   bigla!~bigla@e-221.vc-graz.ac.at [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
03:37   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
03:39   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Read error: No route to host]
03:39   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
03:53   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:54   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
05:26   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
05:43   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
05:43   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
07:34   <   flesh1911!~x@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
07:38   >>> guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net
08:55   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Read error: Operation timed out]
09:06   <   jjz!~user@ip-89-176-113-41.net.upcbroadband.cz [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
09:07   >>> jjz!~user@ip-89-176-113-41.net.upcbroadband.cz
09:09   >>> svp1!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:25   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Quit: Leaving.]
09:29   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
09:31   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 []
09:55   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Quit: Leaving.]
09:56   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
10:10   <   stenzel__!~stenzel@p5DC69F27.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
10:39   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:44   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76
10:44   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
11:06 < nelix> if i do this update, can i downgrade or nvflash linux?
11:06 < nelix> lots of info and tabs in my browser, been lurking here for ages, but still not confident
11:06   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-unat.cambridge.arm.com
11:08   >>> lenios!~lenios@APuteaux-153-1-45-158.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr
11:10 < lenios> hi there
11:12   >>> stenzel__!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-cetbhqybnzmucwtb
11:16   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
11:19   >>> woglinde!~henning@p5DDC085E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:34   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Quit: Quitte]
11:36   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
11:37   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
11:37   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
11:45   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
12:03   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
12:05   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-unat.cambridge.arm.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
12:06   >>> playmobitch!~playmobit@80.10.46.34
12:06   <   playmobitch!~playmobit@80.10.46.34 []
12:16 < nelix> hi
12:18   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com
12:26   >>> ogra_ac!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:27   ~ ogra_ac is now ogra_
12:27 < woglinde> hi ogra
12:27 < ogra_> hey
12:35   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
12:38   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76
12:41   >>> ZyTer!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34
12:41   ~ ZyTer is now ZoX_
12:52   >>> lenios_!~lenios@APuteaux-153-1-7-192.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr
12:56   <   lenios!~lenios@APuteaux-153-1-45-158.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:01 < bmw> hi! I have a problem with .32
13:02 < bmw> I have hung on init with message "freeing init memory: 144K".
13:06   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
13:08 < woglinde> nice the kernel freed 144k mem
13:08 < woglinde> so its not wasted
13:13 < Unseen2> .o(Wow, 581 blocks ;) )
13:13   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
13:17   >>> DW_!b635ef91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.53.239.145
13:18 < DW_> HEy any one can help me to bring sound on?!
13:19 < woglinde> no
13:19 < woglinde> because it dont works right
13:19 < woglinde> your only chance is to use phh .29 image
13:19 < DW_> okey :/
13:19 < woglinde> and use alsa oss emulation
13:19 < woglinde> and that too dont works this well
13:20 < bmw> woglinde, but init not work.
13:20 < DW_> okey i just bring gnash to work but with out sound :D
13:21 < woglinde> gnash works?
13:21 < woglinde> really bad
13:21 < woglinde> at my last attempts
13:22 < DW_> yeah it works video stock abit on youtube but i dont know how the sound is okey ff is freasing :D
13:24 < DW_> this time it works better
13:26   <   Tequila!~tequila@sub.pkg.fr [Quit: Time to join real life]
13:26 < DW_> is any one know how the new 11.04 will play with the Ac100 becouse than Ubuntu will run well with ARM may it will be may the time to delete Android
13:28 < Unseen2> I think someone mentioned that it runs worse because it's missing a workaround for a CPU erratum, but the situation may have changed already
13:33   >>> Tequila!~tequila@sub.pkg.fr
13:34   >>> jeremiah!~jeremiah@li150-237.members.linode.com
13:34 < jeremiah> Hello world!
13:34 < jeremiah> I've just bought a Toshiba AC 100 and it looks great!
13:34 < jeremiah> Except for the software. :P
13:34 < jeremiah> Not sure if Android is really a netbook OS.
13:35 < jeremiah> In any case, I'm going to try to install Debian and MeeGo on this machine.
13:35 < jeremiah> And I hope I won't ask too many n00b questions. =)
13:35 < Unseen2> Don't update to Android 2.2...
13:36 < DW_> NO Android 2.2!!!!!!!!!
13:37 < jeremiah> Eh?
13:37 < jeremiah> Why?
13:37 < jeremiah> I think I may have already.
13:37 < Isakk> If you update to android 2.2 you'll meet problems when trying to install linux :o
13:37 < jeremiah> The little machine went out on the internet and downloaded a few updates.
13:37 < jeremiah> Isakk: Ah, okay. Thanks. :-)
13:38 < Isakk> Fairly sure you had to approve of the update to 2.2 :p
13:38   jeremiah pokes at the ac100 to see if its been updated to 2.2
13:38 < Unseen2> Yes, you tend to notice a >200MB update =)
13:38 < jeremiah> heh, I approved something. :-)
13:39 < Isakk> Hm, if he has updated to 2.2 Can be flash it back to 2.1 and then install linux?
13:39 < jeremiah> Hmm. Looks like it is stuck in the TOSHIBA Service Station.
13:39 < Isakk> :o
13:39 < jeremiah> The screen says Android Version: 2.1.5.0049
13:40 < Unseen2> Yes, you'd just have to flash partitions 2 and 4 with the previous version - there is a backup available somewhere.
13:40 < jeremiah> And there are "Available Software Updates" AC100, OS update v2.2.5.0029
13:40 < jeremiah> So I guess if I don't update, I am still at 2.1?
13:40 < jeremiah> heh
13:40 < Isakk> yeh :)
13:40 < jeremiah> w00t!
13:41 < jeremiah> So what is the best approach to install Debian?
13:41 < jeremiah> Should I create a boot and root file system on separate partitions?
13:41 < jeremiah> Like with the Beagleboard?
13:41 < jeremiah> Or can I just adjust the boot parameters to boot from the SD card with a Debian netinst image?
13:42 < Isakk> Well, to get a basic understanding of how it has been done, I'd suggest you read up on the links in the topic :o
13:43 < jeremiah> Yeah, fair enough.
13:43 < jeremiah> I've been doing a bit of that.
13:43 < jeremiah> Look at the debian-arm list, launchpad, etc.
13:43 < jeremiah> s/Look/Looking/
13:44 < Isakk> Ah. Well, from here I'm mostly useful only for moral support. My knowledge about how to install things other than ubuntu equals zero :-(
13:45 < woglinde> debian is still compiled with machine armv4
13:45 < jeremiah> woglinde: really? One doesn't use the armhf port?
13:46 < woglinde> jeremiah dont know whats the option for hf is
13:46 < woglinde> and you didnt say you want install hf
13:46 < jeremiah> woglinde: hf is "Hard Float" and is supposed to be faster.
13:47 < jeremiah> ah, you may know that already, okay.
13:47 < jeremiah> Well, my understanding is that one can use the armhf port without NEON support
13:47   <   dl9pf_!~quassel@p5B212E2C.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:47 < jeremiah> But that is just from my quick reading of various docs.
13:47 < pm215_> yes, hardfloat should just imply vfpv3-d16, not neon
13:48 < pm215_> you definitely want that and not armv4 for an ac100
13:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@p5B214952.dip.t-dialin.net
13:49   <   dl9pf!~quassel@p5B214952.dip.t-dialin.net [Changing host]
13:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
13:56 < jeremiah> pm215_: Ah, thanks very much.
13:58 < ogra_> jeremiah, talk to markos_ in #linaro wbout how far the hf prot actually is, it might be bootstrappable already
13:59 < ogra_> btw, debian is built for armv4t not armv4 ;)
13:59 < ogra_> ubuntu is armv7, vfpv3-d16 and no neon, but softfloat
14:00 < jeremiah> ogra_: Wow, okay
14:00 < ogra_> and will enable hardfloat with the next release
14:01 < jeremiah> So, if I want a hardfloat, vfpv3-d16, armv7, no neon, I'll need to co-ordinate with Linaro?
14:02 < jeremiah> Not sure what vfpv3-d16 is.
14:02 < ogra_> no, you need to use debian atm but i dont know how ready the debian port is yet
14:02   jeremiah googles
14:02 < jeremiah> ogra_: Okay, thanks!
14:02 < ogra_> or live with softfloat in ubuntu and have the best compiler optimizations
14:02 < ogra_> then you can upgrade to hardfloat next release
14:02 < ogra_> (11.10)
14:03 < jeremiah> ogra_: Hmm, that sounds smarter.
14:04 < jeremiah> Maybe I should go that route. It also sounds like there is more support down that rabbit hole.
14:04 < jeremiah> Plus I could get to test Unity on the AC 100.
14:04 < ogra_> most people here use ubuntu on the ac100 atm i think
14:04 < jeremiah> Okay. Well, I easily succumb to peer pressure. =)
14:04 < ogra_> the 2d unity runs awesome on the ac100 ... i'm using it here
14:04 < jeremiah> So I guess Ubuntu it is.
14:05 < jeremiah> ogra_: Really? Cool
14:05 < jeremiah> Ubuntu =~ Debian anyway. ;)
14:05 < ogra_> https://launchpad.net/~unity-2d-team/+archive/unity-2d-daily
14:05 < ogra_> for the unity-2d daily ppa
14:06 < Unseen2> BTW: Has anyone figured out why some things that require user privileges elevation (e.g. System->Admin opts->Logon screen  or the shutdown/reboot menu options) are broken?
14:06 < Unseen2> (+ in phhs Ubuntu root fs)
14:06 < pm215_> vfpv3-d16> this means "the vfp you get in ARMv7, with only 16 FPU registers". 32 regs is optional for VFP-only cores, required for Neon.
14:06   ogra_ tries in his rootfs
14:06 < pm215_> so vfpv3-d16 is a reasonable "lowest common denominator" for v7 cores with an FPU
14:07 < ogra_> Unseen2, works fine on mine, whats the symptoms ?
14:08 < Unseen2> If there is an "Unlock" button for enabling changes, it does nothing. The shutdown/reboot menu partially quits the session and returns to the login screen, but parts of the previous user session remain active.
14:09 < ogra_> smells like a dbus issue
14:09 < ogra_> iirc phh's image runs X in a chroot, there might be communication probs
14:09 < Unseen2> Sounds like a reasonable explanation
14:10 < ogra_> if you can make out the startup script used to fire up his X, try to add a session bus to that
14:10 < ogra_> one that runs inside the chroot
14:10 < Unseen2> It's not that important for me anyway, I usually use X only as a terminal multiplexer =)
14:11 < ogra_> not sure that fixes it (i'm not sure the auth works across chroots) but probably worth a try
14:11   <   DW_!b635ef91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.53.239.145 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:27   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
14:27   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
14:30   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
14:58   <   stenzel__!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-cetbhqybnzmucwtb [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:01   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
15:13   >>> stenzel__!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-hzxslzuruwiwkezh
15:16   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
15:23   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
15:31 < mirco> Hi all, I need configure my ac100's cdc_ether / USB ethernet device... On my Desktop it's recognised but the interface doesn't come up
15:33 < marvin24> mirco: did you tried manually?
15:33 < mirco> If I manually start it with "ifconfig usb0 192.168.3.2 up" I can see the IP in ifconfig but still can't ping
15:33 < mirco> he he....
15:34 < marvin24> is the interface up on ac100 side?
15:34 < gildean> mirco: not a dns-problem?
15:35 < mirco> that's the point I can't check! cause I've no screen, that is why I'm trying to setup cdc_ether!
15:35 < gildean> as in you tried to ping for example googles dns ip
15:35 < gildean> which is 8.8.8.8
15:35 < mirco> gildean: I'm only pinging with IP's where should DNS interact in that process?
15:35 < marvin24> if you are using number addresses, do you need a dns?
15:36 < marvin24> mirco: why you don't have a screen?
15:36 < gildean> mirco: nowhere, i just wondered if you pinged a name, not an ip
15:36 < marvin24> which kernel?
15:36 < mirco> phh's
15:36 < marvin24> and it doesn't light up?
15:37 < marvin24> mmh
15:37 < marvin24> on the other hand, if the interface is available on the desktop
15:37 < marvin24> there should be some ip on ac100 side
15:37 < marvin24> maybe wrong subnet
15:37 < mirco> I changed some files, for example added SWcursor to xorg.conf, then it stopped booting, then I commented that change out using my SD setup now not even the sd bots
15:39   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
15:39   >>> borisisevil!~boris@194.25.88.190
15:39 < woglinde> mirco use the console over usb too
15:39 < woglinde> but that needs a getty running on /dev/ttyGS0 on the ac100
15:40 < mirco> woglinde I'ld love to, but that was the other change I did before my SD setup stopped booting, I added as follows to /etc/inittab:
15:40 < mirco> ttyGS0::askfirst:/sbin/getty -L ttyGS0 115200 vt100
15:41 < mirco> but I also commented this change out after the SD denied booting...
15:44 < mirco> woglinde: can you say if this is the correct line to start getty in ttyGS0?
15:45   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:47 < woglinde> yes
15:48 < mirco> you mean it's correct?
15:48 < woglinde> yes
15:49 < mirco> thx a ton! but why doesn't my desktop show a serial device?
15:49 < woglinde> whats lsusb saying?
15:49 < woglinde> on your desktop?
15:51 < borisisevil> hey all.. jippi.. i managed to compile my first ac100 kernel from the gitorious sources straight on my ac100..  and now stuck in how to install.. my first question is, do i need to touch my bootimg on part 6 to get the new kernel running?  (may be i should explain why tryin that. Is because i want th get usb-mobile modem via  /dev/ttyACM driver  support into my kernel)
15:52 < woglinde> borisisevil depends on your bootloader
15:52 < mirco> it only show's the cdc_ether device: http://pastebin.com/ScwUdxL4
15:52 < woglinde> so you only have g_ether build in
15:52 < woglinde> instead of g_composite
15:53 < borisisevil> uh.. i use the "experimental" setup
15:53 < woglinde> which has serial console and net
15:53 < borisisevil> which means the last files from phh
15:54 < woglinde> borisisevil thats not the question
15:54 < mirco> woglinde: thx but I don't get a ttyU* device...
15:54 < woglinde> borisisevil bootloader from android 2.1 or 2.2
15:54 < borisisevil> i reverted to 2.1
15:54 < gildean> borisisevil: i wrote a how-to recarding phh's latest image, it can be found here http://ac100.tunk.org/ under ínstructions
15:54 < woglinde> so you can test it with part5
15:54 < gildean> maybe it can help you some
15:55 < borisisevil> thanks a lot.. i will read :)
15:55   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303171539]]
16:15 < mirco> woglinde: which modul has to be loaded on the AC? all I've is cdc_ether <> zaurus and usbnet <> zaurus, cdc_ether but I don't see something like cdc_serial...
16:15   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
16:20 < woglinde> g_composite
16:20 < woglinde> on ac100
16:20 < woglinde> on desktop cdc_net cdc_acm
16:21 < mirco> thx
16:22   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
16:23   <   stenzel__!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-hzxslzuruwiwkezh [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:25 < mirco> woglinde: when I try to add g_composite: FATAL: Module g_composite not found... where can I get it from?
16:27 < borisisevil> ok.. i think i understand the next step.. will try to create a  bootiimg with my own kernel by using bootimg tool and have a test install&run on part 5
16:27 < gildean> borisisevil: use abootimg
16:28 < borisisevil> jep.. thats what i meant..
16:28 < gildean> to make boot.img for the ac100
16:28 < gildean> ok
16:31   >>> Abercius!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
16:36 < grandrew> hi!
16:37 < grandrew> http://gitorious.org/ac100/kernel/commits/froyo-tosh - is it the stock kernel branch that ships with toshiba 2.2 android upgrade?
16:38 < grandrew> or does anybody know if a tarball is available for the stock android 2.2 kernel?
16:48 < phh> a tarball is available
16:48 < phh> and it's the stock kernel
16:48 < phh> *but* it's the eclair-tosh that is the proper branch
16:48 < phh> I still have to find how to rename branches.
16:50 < mirco> phh: have you integrated g_composite in your kernel and if not can you tell me how I can get it?
16:50 < phh> no
16:50 < phh> make menuconfig ?
16:50 < Unseen2> "git branch -m <oldname> <newname>"
16:51 < phh> the problem is to rename them *remotely*
16:51 < Unseen2> Do it on the remote side ;)
16:51 < woglinde> phh still didnt fix the git
16:51   woglinde runs
16:51 < ogra_> pfft git
16:52 < phh> Unseen2: easy.
16:54 < pm215_> rename on remote: push newname as usual, and push an empty refspec to oldname, I think
16:54 < grandrew> phh, so where can I find the exact stock kernel tree? I want to compile additional modules just for the stock android but cannot find the original source anywhere :-(
16:54 < phh> grandrew: eclair-tosh tree :p
16:55 < woglinde> which 2.2? or 2.1?
16:55 < phh> grandrew: there are two links in logs
16:55 < ogra_> there was a free.fr download site for the tarball
16:55 < grandrew> phh, 2.6.32.9 or .29 one?
16:55 < phh> .32.9
16:56 < grandrew> ok thx :-)
17:01   <   borisisevil!~boris@194.25.88.190 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
17:05 < lenios_> for free: http://lenios.free.fr/ac100/
17:05 < lenios_> android 2.2 sources
17:06   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
17:06 < grandrew> thx!
17:11   >>> borisisevil!~boris@194.25.88.190
17:14   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
17:16 < mirco> How far have you come with building a new kernel from the 2.2 sources?
17:19 < gildean> i think no-one has really done anything to it
17:20 < gildean> i don't know if phh has spent some more time working on it, but at least the last time i asked, he replied that it was a "total fail"
17:20 < gildean> on part of toshiba, i presume
17:23 < grandrew> I'm getting errors in atomic.h .. seems that compiling on gcc 4.5 is no longer supported in 2.2 source :-\
17:26 < woglinde> ?
17:26 < woglinde> you mean .32 kernel
17:26 < woglinde> and gcc 4.5 should be able to compile 32 kernel
17:27 < grandrew> yes. But it is not :-) It was great for 29 one from 2.1 but now it complains about somewhat syntax in standard header includes
17:29 < woglinde> you are making something wrong
17:29 < mirco> OK, and where can I get the sources for .29? I want to compile g_composite...
17:29 < woglinde> or your gcc-4.5 has not all patches
17:29 < woglinde> mirco topic
17:30 < grandrew> http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-978631.html -- the same problem
17:30 < mirco> woglinde: have you a kernel with g_composite and would send me the module?
17:31 < woglinde> no
17:32 < woglinde> because you would ask me for it on and on
17:32 < woglinde> instead of learning to compile the kernel your self
17:32 < woglinde> and I have g_composite build in
17:32 < woglinde> instead of modul
17:33   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
17:33 < mirco> woglinde: you're right! I might ask again an again, but on the other hand I'm building kernels since potato... But never did so for another platform...
17:34 < mirco> and how can I check if pph has it included?
17:37 < pm215_> grandrew: try compiling with -fno-strict-volatile-bitfields ? (I'm wondering if you've hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/gcc-linaro/+bug/675347)
17:38   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
17:39 < woglinde> mirco config.gz?
17:39 < grandrew> pm215_, I've already commented-out the failing source code part and it is building ok. I don't need a bootable kernel but a loadable module so I really don't care about that bug but I want to know what version of gcc was used at toshiba ..
17:39 < mirco> mirco is currently looking in config-2.6.29-arm2-ac100
17:44 < pm215_> grandew: commenting out bits of atomic.h? that's brave
17:44   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.176.76
17:45   <   svp1!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
17:46 < woglinde> grandrew you mean compal
17:46 < woglinde> ;)
17:51 < arune> did compal make the hardware design? and software adaptation of android?
17:53   <   Abercius!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
17:57   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Excess Flood]
17:57   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
17:58   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
17:58   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
17:59 < grandrew> hmm "compal" sounds like typoed "compile" .. seems that's exactly what they are doing :-P
17:59   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
18:03   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
18:10   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 []
18:11   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
18:11   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:21   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
18:25   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: mirco]
18:25   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f052038132.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:25 < woglinde> re marvin
18:25 < marvin24_DT> heya
18:30   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
18:30   >>> peterOnArm!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de
18:31 < phh> okay, android part of android/ubuntu dualboot on .32 works.
18:31 < grandrew> hm strange "menuconfig arch=ARM" seems to break the original .config file entirely
18:31 < phh> (and of course I mean loading android with mostly ubuntu's initramfs)
18:31 < phh> grandrew: because it's ARCH=arm
18:31   >>> ranx_xero!~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-114-207.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr
18:31 < grandrew> ew
18:31 < grandrew> and what do I need?
18:32 < grandrew> aa
18:32 < grandrew> right
18:32 < gildean> phh: ubuntu boot still hangs?
18:32 < phh> gildean: no, I just haven't tried it yet :p
18:32 < phh> but I got it to work earlier with that kernel
18:32 < gildean> hah, ok
18:32 < phh> so it should work
18:32 < phh> I just need to find that damn usb stick
18:33 < gildean> ok, was that the one that doesn't work with x?
18:33 < phh>      na
18:33 < phh> well
18:33 < phh> more or less.
18:34 < phh> with L4T's nvrm_daemon, there is X
18:34 < phh> but no sound
18:34 < gildean> ok
18:34 < gildean> and without nvrm_daemon there is sound but no x?
18:34 < phh> without nvrm_daemon there is nothing.
18:34 < phh> the other possibility is with toshiba's nvrm_daemon
18:35   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
18:35 < gildean> ok, i didn't know it was that integral part of the ac100
18:35 < gildean> or rather tegra2?
18:35 < phh> ?
18:36 < marvin24_DT> nvrm -> rm nv !
18:36 < phh>  lol
18:37 < gildean> phh: as in do other tegra2 based devices use the nvrm_daemon to interact with basic systems
18:38 < phh> gildean: yup
18:38 < gildean> ok
18:40 < gildean> so they wanted to keep every aspect of the soc development to themselves
18:41 < marvin24_DT> even .37 requires seems to need it
18:41 < phh> marvin24_DT: perhaps not "require"
18:41 < marvin24_DT> but only to notify user-space about suspend
18:41 < marvin24_DT> yes
18:41 < marvin24_DT> the interface is very simple
18:41 < marvin24_DT> arch/arm/mach-tegra/nv/nvrm_user.c
18:42 < marvin24_DT> just return either "not supported" or "depricated" to all ioctls
18:42 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
18:42 < phh> :)
18:44 < grandrew> great! at last loop.ko works! thx everybody :-)
18:44 < phh> you want to do a chroot ... ?
18:45 < grandrew> already done & launched full desktop via looback vnc
18:45 < phh> (real question) what's the point ?
18:45   grandrew is looking at possibilities to get video acceleration and sound
18:46 < phh> .....
18:46 < phh> grandrew: do you know I already have them ?
18:46 < phh> it just requires special tools
18:46 < phh> like it would do on android
18:46 < grandrew> point -> to create an easy-to-install distro that leaves all the cool android functionality and run real linux app in background
18:46 < grandrew> you have them?
18:46 < phh> I mean I have video acceleration and sound working.
18:47 < grandrew> in linux on top of android setup?
18:47 < phh> no
18:47 < phh> well
18:47 < grandrew> well that's my point
18:47 < phh> normal distrib
18:47 < phh> using android tools, but not whole android system
18:47 < grandrew> ok I got it
18:47 < phh> juste android's nvrm_daemon, nvtest, and omxplayer.so (and there libs deps)
18:49 < grandrew> I just want to have android manage all my hardware & I love some apps there
18:49 < phh> ok, have fun.
18:49 < phh> just that you know
18:49 < phh> things that make it totally unusable:
18:49 < woglinde> how does sound works over vnc?
18:49 < phh> you don't have "hover" mouse possibility
18:50 < phh> you don't have ctrl/alt/alt-gr support
18:50 < phh> you don't have F* keys
18:50 < phh> of course sound/video works only in android apps but I think you already knew that
18:51 < grandrew> the 1 & 2 are easily fixable (by hacking androidVNC),  I can get sound to work if I implement any of soundserver protocols
18:51 < woglinde> ?
18:51 < woglinde> think about it again
18:51 < phh> yeah. it's easy if you write drivers about everything
18:52 < woglinde> where is the sound generated?
18:52 < grandrew> the only big deal is video acceleration which is still possible by hacking in 'xv' support
18:52 < woglinde> on X
18:52 < woglinde> or the vm
18:52 < woglinde> or whatever
18:52 < phh> woglinde: na the sound is no big deal
18:52 < phh> well if you know how to code sound in android
18:52 < woglinde> ?
18:52 < phh> and pulseaudio driver
18:52 < woglinde> explain me
18:52 < grandrew> right
18:52 < woglinde> dummy soundcard over pulse?
18:52 < phh> woglinde: yeah mostly
18:53 < phh> dummy being put that to tcp
18:53 < woglinde> that works?
18:53 < phh> (or unix socket or whatever)
18:53 < phh> woglinde: it has to be done.
18:53 < phh> but that should work
18:53 < phh> I wanted to do that at some point
18:53 < phh> but it's something too big for me
18:54   woglinde is sceptical about the sound dummy
18:54 < phh> why ?
18:54   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Quit: Leaving.]
18:55   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
18:56   grandrew finds getting 3d acceleration really challenging but still possible too; by hacking vm x11 drivers to map everything to android openGL implemetation
18:56 < woglinde> .o(nx nx nx)
18:56 < phh> grandrew: you know I already have working ogl es ?
18:56 < grandrew> yes
18:58 < grandrew> phh, you're using ogl distro from tegra linux?
18:59 < phh> yes
19:00 < phh> grandrew: anyway, if you really want to do that, check androix
19:01 < grandrew> wow, great hint, thanks!
19:01 < phh> but you just have mostly everything left to do
19:02 < ogra_> bah, better port nouveau to arm ;)
19:02 < grandrew> ? sound and xv?
19:02 < phh> grandrew: and keyboard, and mouse
19:02   >>> Abercius!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
19:02 < phh> just exactly like before
19:02 < phh> just s/vnc/X11/
19:04 < phh> but using X11 instead of vnc is the first step to have stuff usable
19:05 < grandrew> right
19:08   >>> flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81
19:09   >>> polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171
19:20 < woglinde> till later
19:20   <   woglinde!~henning@p5DDC085E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: zapp]
19:25   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
19:28   <   borisisevil!~boris@194.25.88.190 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:28   <   polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171 []
19:30   >>> borisisevil!~boris@194.25.88.190
19:48   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.37.157
19:48   <   borisisevil!~boris@194.25.88.190 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:49   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
19:49   >>> macau_!~macau_@jaim.at
19:51   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.37.157 []
19:53 < phh> of course my ubuntu for .32 no longer boots
19:58 < scoopr> it would be just too easy if it just worked? ;)
19:58 < phh> it worked last week.
19:58 < scoopr> they say bits rot!
19:58 < phh> wut ?
19:59 < scoopr> lame attempt at a joke :(
19:59 < phh> ok
19:59 < phh> i'm french.
19:59 < scoopr> duly noted!
20:06   <   macau_!~macau_@jaim.at []
20:27   <   lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net [Quit: Leaving]
20:29   >>> mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net
20:35   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:42   >>> lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net
20:51   <   Abercius!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:52 < gildean> scoopr: might be bitrot, or as i usually think about it, it might be cosmic rays
20:53   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:53 < gildean> if a cosmic ray hits the ram/rom in just precise time, it can change a bit from 1 to 0
20:57 < gildean> iirc, studies suggest that computers typically experience about one error per 256MB of ram per month from cosmic rays
20:58   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
20:59 < pm215_> cosmic rays> I guess this is lost in the noise of problems from software bugs, though :-)
21:00 < gildean> nah, there aren't any software bugs, just a lot of cosmic activity
21:01   >>> markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
21:04   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
21:06   <   mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: mirco]
21:07 < gildean> phh: hmm, i got 5 days of suspend from almost full battery, and just now the battery warning light came on
21:08 < gildean> as in, it seems that ubuntu really has the advertised suspend time
21:08   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7F66D.dip.t-dialin.net
21:08 < gildean> with full battery i think it would last at least 7d in suspend
21:10   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
21:15   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g229047182.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:20   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
21:22   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
21:40   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
21:41   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
21:46   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g229046014.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:49   <   woglinde!~heinold@g229047182.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:53   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:58   >>> mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net
21:59   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
22:01   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-107-60.bb.netbynet.ru
22:04 < markit_> hi i've got some problems flashing my android 2.2 ac100
22:05 < markit_> i try to install on eMMC via putting the rootfs over usb-file-storage onto it,..
22:05   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
22:06 < markit_> does this method still work with android 2.2?
22:06 < markit_> i also flashed "plop.img" to partition 6,..
22:06   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6AB4C.dip.t-dialin.net
22:07 < markit_> but it will just do nothing, after the toshiba boot screen/image,..
22:07 < Unseen2> Grab a 2.1 backup from somewhere and downgrade partitions 2 and 4 (use --rawdevicewrite, be careful about the sector numbers)
22:08 < markit_> no way to have android 2.2 and ubuntu as dual boot?
22:08 < markit_> --rawdevicewrite together with nvflash?
22:08 < woglinde_> markit not at the moment
22:09 < Unseen2> Yes, nvflash won't write to those two partitions with the standard --download command
22:10 < markit_> ok, so partition 2 and 4 contain the android kernel and rootfs?
22:10 < gildean> you can find a magnet link to a torrent of full backup from here: http://ac100.tunk.org/download
22:10 < Unseen2> No, 2 and 4 contain the boot loader which was also upgraded when you installed Android 2.2.
22:10 < markit_> ok
22:11 < markit_> thx so far,..
22:17 < markit_> hmm another question
22:17 < markit_> when copying the rootfs via usb storage to the ac100
22:18 < markit_> it does not really seem to work, e.g. after unmounting i can't mount again,..
22:18 < gildean> in which fs did you format it in?
22:18 < markit_> is this android 2.2 related?
22:18 < markit_> ext3
22:19 < gildean> i think it's android related yes
22:19 < markit_> so hmm
22:19 < markit_> if i can't get my rootfs on the device,..
22:19 < gildean> i think android likes only vfat or fat32
22:19 < markit_> downgrading the bootloader will not really help much
22:20 < markit_> sure, but i expected it only to destroy my ext3 when i boot andorid again,.
22:20 < markit_> not earlier, as i did not even unplugged usb, just unmounted,..
22:20 < gildean> check that site i posted, under instructions you can find a how-to for phh's image, put it into a sd of usb so you can boot with it and mount you internal storage
22:21 < gildean> *your
22:21 < markit_> ok so i have to go  the long way
22:21 < markit_> ovver boot from external media, i hoped to bypass this *G
22:21 < gildean> using nilfs2 and a faster sd card it works quite well
22:22 < gildean> really not a noticeable difference between internal install and class 10 sd-card
22:22   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.176.76 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
22:27 < gildean> and btw. that how-to also works for internal install
22:34 < xzerth> Hi. I've got some problem with nilfs2. Maybe somebody knows what can I do with it: nilfs_ioctl_move_inode_block: conflicting data buffer: ino=116413, cno=150, offset=373, blocknr=1257465, vblocknr=1587795
22:34 < xzerth> [75304.133076] NILFS: GC failed during preparation: cannot read source blocks: err=-17
22:34 < xzerth> Google doesn't answer me/
22:34 < xzerth> .
22:35 < gildean> not even on the errornumber?
22:36 < gildean> yeah, try google nilfs err=-17
22:36   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.176.76
22:36 < xzerth> yeah. thanks. Got some info.
22:37 < gildean> np
22:37 < gildean> perhaps next time try to read the full error statement first
22:38   >>> Abercius!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
22:39   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.176.76 [Read error: No route to host]
22:42 < gildean> and anyways, nilfs2 is not fully stable yet
22:42 < gildean> so there might be some problems
22:43 < gildean> but most ac100 users should be quite used to all kinds of problesm, so nothing new there
22:45   >>> mirco_!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net
22:51 < xzerth> So I just can't run nilfs-cleanerd
22:58   <   ale6!~alexis@2a01:e35:1392:2080:2::25 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:04   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:07 < xzerth> because nilfs_cleanerd[2997]: cannot open nilfs on /dev/sdb: No space left on device
23:07 < xzerth>  And nilfs cleaner can't create .nilfs file. But I really deleted some files before it. What can I do?
23:07 < woglinde_> format
23:07 < xzerth> It because I run cleaner when nilfs already full
23:08 < xzerth> Hm/
23:10 < xzerth> How can I run nilfs cleaner under ubuntu on AC100? I can't do this - that why I need reflash android and under it start cleaner from other system. And then I've missed the moment when filesystem become full
23:39 < gildean> you don't have another linux-machine to run cleanerd
23:41 < xzerth> I have one.
23:42   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
23:42 < xzerth> But as I said I  I've missed the moment when filesystem become full.
23:42 < xzerth> So I need some way to manage nilfs2
23:42 < xzerth> on Ac100
23:42 < xzerth> Is it possible?
23:44   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f052038132.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
23:44 < gildean> you should be able do it by booting external
23:44 < gildean> ie. ogras image from external
23:45 < xzerth> ^)
23:45 < xzerth> :)
23:50   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-107-60.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
23:52   <   mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 241 seconds]
23:52   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
23:56 < markit_> hmm me again,.
23:56 < markit_> now into deeper trouble *G
23:56 < markit_> i got the ac100 images from http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/download/
23:57 < markit_> backed up partition 2 and 4
23:57 < markit_> used following commands to put new ones up
23:57 < markit_> and now nothing happens anymore when i power the ac100 up
23:57 < gildean> you can use the old bootloader with 2.2
23:58 < markit_> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./nvflash --bl ../prebuilt/fastboot.stock.bin --rawdevicewrite --download 2 ../../ac100tools/images/2.1/tac100-part-2.img
23:58 < gildean> *can't
23:58 < markit_> same with 4
23:58   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76
23:58 < gildean> or did you try to boot ubuntu?
23:58 < markit_> what happens if i do? does it break everything than?
23:59 < markit_> 1. i tried to boot ubuntu
23:59 < markit_> 2nd i tried to boot andorid 2.2 with 2.1 bootlaoder
23:59 < gildean> ok, so prolly you need the other boot.img
23:59 < markit_> than i put back my baked up bootloader from 2.2
23:59 < markit_> and still nothing works,..
--- Day changed Tue Mar 29 2011
00:00 < gildean> lol, then you messed something up
00:00 < markit_> i guess,
00:00 < gildean> did you check the partition table?
00:00 < markit_> what i find a bit strange is
00:00 < gildean> as in your models partition table
00:00 < markit_> when i backed up partition 2 and 4 they where 2 and 3 MB of size
00:00 < gildean> for rawwrite
00:01 < markit_> when writing new partitions it writes only 4 or 8 KB
00:01 < markit_> i used rawwrite
00:01 < markit_> for writing,..
00:01 < gildean> and did you check the numbers?
00:01 < gildean> and doublecheck them
00:02 < gildean> as in the sector and size
00:03 < markit_> which numbers?
00:03 < markit_> i checked the size of the images i backed up with the ones i was writing to the device
00:04 < markit_> they where identical,..
00:04 < gildean> StartSector and NumSectors
00:04 < markit_> i didn`t chech startsector as i assumed that nvfalsh will use the numbers of the partitiontable on the device,..
00:04 < gildean> as the rawwrite command goes like so: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./nvflash -r --rawdevicewrite [StartSector] [NumSectors] part-[PartitionId].img
00:05 < markit_> uups
00:05 < gildean> when you use rawwrite, you have to point it exactly
00:05 < markit_> i got it now,..
00:05 < markit_> just htinking about what happened
00:05 < markit_> i probably used raswrite to overwrite the partition table i guess
00:05 < gildean> check the wiki more about backup/restore
00:18   >>> sraue_!~stephan@230-56-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch
00:19   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:29   <   mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: mirco]
00:31 < markit_> my partition table looks intact,..
00:32 < markit_> and i plan to write all partitions again except 12 and 14 for the start,..
00:33 < markit_> i hope the ac100 will than at least react on powering up with home button pressed,..
00:33 < markit_> and if not, hmm ...
00:34   >>> mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net
00:35   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
00:36   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
00:38   <   mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net [Client Quit]
00:39 < woglinde_> good nite
00:39   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g229046014.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
00:44 < markit_> jep at least recovery mode comes up again,..
01:03   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com [Quit: Leaving.]
01:04 < phh> gildean: only one week sleep ?
01:04 < phh> i'd have expected more
01:07   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
01:17   <   Abercius!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
01:26 < gildean> might be more, as i didn't test it with a full battery, nor did it run out yet
01:26 < gildean> but at least a week
01:32 < markit_> hmm i hab my ac100 at a power meter today
01:32 < markit_> it used 6ma @19V
01:33 < markit_> so ~100mW makes 10days from 25Wh
01:33 < markit_> but this is probably best case
01:34 < markit_> btw i already have an android 2.1 + ubuntu dual boot on internal storage,..
01:38 < markit_> so my downgrade from 2.2 went well, after some intermediate disasters
01:38 < markit_> thx gildean
01:51 < phh> dual boot with 2.2 should be ready quite soon
01:59 < Pechnet> phh  cool
02:12   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
02:16   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
02:47   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
02:50   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
03:14   <   peterOnArm!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
03:16   >>> peterOnArm!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de
04:02   <   Hexxeh!~Hexxeh@carbon.hexxeh.net [Quit: Hexxeh]
04:10 < markit_> yes that would be great
04:11 < markit_> i just compared some power consumptinos between 2.1, 2.2 and ubuntu
04:13 < markit_> and while ubuntu beats 2.1 at standby (150mW vs 1200mW) as 2.1 infact just turn off the screen,..
04:21 < markit_> ubuntu needs slightly more power as 2.1 (2.3 or 2.7W) when sitting idle in aeroplane mode with display on at low brightness (3.1W), but substantially more than 2.2 (1.65 or 2.1W) (lower values for android with suspended usb hub)
04:22 < markit_> this would allow 80% longer offline text writing on android 2.2 than on ubuntu )-;
04:23 < markit_> but i guess this high power consumption of ubuntu is mostly cause of not suspended usb hub and devices (wifi)
04:25 < markit_> btw android 2.2 seems to need only 130mW in standby, but my measurements where not accurate enough to really say its using less power as ubuntu in standby aswell,..
04:28 < markit_> btw all this measurements where done without battery, and simply measuring the current at/before the dc plug ,..
04:29 < markit_> so when running from battery a littl eless dcdc conversion losses apply, and 2 leds less *G
04:34 < phh> markit_: great :)
04:34 < phh> markit_: I doubt leds eats that much :D
04:35 < phh> markit_: on idle with wifi
04:36 < phh> does ubuntu eats as much as android ?
04:43   <   markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
04:54 < phh> ah, motorola atrix is using a full blown ubuntu in dock mode
04:59   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
05:02 < phh> .....
05:02 < phh> they've got a flash plugin.
05:02 < phh> for firefox
05:06 < phh> i needed a reason not to sleep, I think I got it
05:36   <   flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
05:54 < phh> their libs seems to do weird things.
05:54 < phh> but better than L4T release
05:58   --- *.net <-\-> *.split ---
05:58              <<< [CryptoKi1, hectorvector, gord, caban, dl9pf, ranx_xero, struger`, kml, pfoetchen, ojn, +36 more]
06:19  >> [Eruquen, arune, marvin24, kml, a_rcher, Isakk, dl9pf, harms1, peterOnArm, ggrandou
06:19 +14 more]
06:19   >>> [bmw, shadow89_at_work, jeremiah, phh, CryptoKi1, pfoetchen, gord, sraue_, gg]
06:20   >>> [kenws]
06:20   >>> [ogra_, lenios_, dario, zod, scoopr]
06:20   >>> [stenzel, grandrew, hectorvector, pm215_, lepanen, svp, NickaNicka]
06:21 < phh> fuck ...
06:21 < phh> it works
06:21 < phh> flash player.
07:16   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
07:17   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76
07:48   <   struger`!~user@217.69.221.99 [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
08:27   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
08:40   >>> Abercius_!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
08:40 < scoopr> woo
08:44 < grandrew> ew
08:45 < grandrew> thats what I said!
08:45 < grandrew> :-P
08:46   >>> mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net
08:48   <   Abercius_!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
08:54   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-101-44.bb.netbynet.ru
08:54   <   mirco!~mirco@pD9E57DC1.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: mirco]
08:57   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
08:57   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Remote host closed the connection]
09:13   >>> svp1!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:30   >>> Abercius_!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
09:30   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
09:31   >>> ChaoZero!c1acbb93@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.172.187.147
09:31   <   Abercius_!~Abercius@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Client Quit]
09:32 < ChaoZero> hi everyone
09:35 < ChaoZero> im succesfully booting ubuntu off of a usb flashdrive, and wanted to try installing on internal mmcblk device. Followed steps in http://ac100.gudinna.com/internal/README but ubuntu doesnt seem to see a partitiontable AT ALL.
09:35   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
09:36   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
09:37 < muromec> all:
09:38 < ChaoZero> flashed part 5 with the boot.img, and part 6 with the internal-boot.img file, like instructed in the readme. booting from mmc i get the 'no job control'-error. i guess there still are some partitions, otherwise i think i wouldnt be able to get into home+power menu..
09:38 < ChaoZero> any thoughts on this?
09:40 < ChaoZero> ubuntu says its an unpartitioned device. in /dev/ theres ONLY a mmcblk0 device. no mmcblk0p1-14.
09:41   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
09:42 < ChaoZero> noone at all?:P
09:43 < muromec> ChaoZero, whats your problem?
09:43 < ChaoZero> a weird problem in ubuntu/gparted
09:43 < ChaoZero> it doesnt see a partitiontable AT ALL
09:43 < muromec> dont use parted
09:43 < ChaoZero> whilst im booting from usb -> using partition 5 to get there, if im not mistaken
09:43 < muromec> you will brik device]
09:44 < ChaoZero> ok. but theres also JUST the mmcblk0 device in /dev/. no other partitions
09:44 < ChaoZero> is that normal?
09:44 < ChaoZero> cause before, i DID get to see the right partitiontable in gparted
09:44 < muromec> its normal, but not ok
09:45 < muromec> dont use parted!
09:45 < ChaoZero> (im aware i shouldnt change partitiontables because of the bootloaders hardcoded partition-table)
09:45   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
09:45 < muromec> you are using wrong kernel image
09:46 < muromec> one without partition table support
09:46 < ChaoZero> ok. could u point me to a valid one?
09:46 < ChaoZero> im using the boot images from here: http://ac100.gudinna.com/internal/ac100-10Z-8GB/
09:47 < ChaoZero> my toshiba is an ac100-10T. hardware-wise its identical to the 10Z.
09:48 < muromec> hmm... strange
09:48 < ChaoZero> yes definetely
09:48 < ChaoZero> ok. so can u tell me if i did this right...?
09:49 < muromec> dunno
09:49 < muromec> ask phh
09:49 < ChaoZero> if flashed the boot.img image using the flash-mode (ctrl+esc+power) to part 5, and did the same to part 6 with the internal-boot.img file
09:49 < ChaoZero> does that seem correct?
09:49 < muromec> yeah
09:50 < muromec> and how do you boot now?
09:50 < ChaoZero> ok. and AFTER flashing to part 6, i do tar xzvf ./rootfs.whatever.tar /mnt/mmcblk0p6, right?
09:50 < muromec> well, maby
09:51 < muromec> but you are booting from usb?
09:51 < ChaoZero> yes
09:51 < muromec> with "home" pressed?
09:52 < ChaoZero> flash part 5. flash part 6. boot from usb into ubuntu (yes with home). mount part6. tar. fail
09:52 < muromec> try to boot without home pressed
09:52 < muromec> kernel image in part 5 dont know about partition table
09:52 < ChaoZero> thats the problem:P usb is working. without home -> 'no job control; tty turned off)
09:53 < muromec> ok, so boot without home and mount mmcblk?p6
09:53 < ChaoZero> from the busybox thingy?
09:53 < muromec> yeah
09:54 < ChaoZero>  booting now...
09:54 < ChaoZero> ok. i did "ls /dev/ " and there is no mmcblk0p*
09:54 < ChaoZero> just mmcblk0
09:55 < muromec> cat /proc/partitions
09:55 < muromec> all parts should be there
09:55 < ChaoZero> just blk0
09:55 < ChaoZero> 7798272 blocks
09:55   >>> KpoT!b2811eed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.129.30.237
09:56 < muromec> well, didnt you just wipe part table?
09:56 < ChaoZero> but i do think u r right on the 'wrong kernel' thingy
09:57 < ChaoZero> cant imagine that... can u boot from usb without part 5?
09:57 < ChaoZero> and the bootloader is supposed to reset the partitiontable during every boot right?:S
09:58 < ChaoZero> (meanwhile, im extracting the partitiontable from fastboot. see if that brings up a valid table)
10:05 < ChaoZero> ok fastboot still recognizes the correct table
10:05   >>> playmobitch!~playmobit@5th88-1-78-241-216-44.fbx.proxad.net
10:05 < ChaoZero> (pfew ;) )
10:05   <   playmobitch!~playmobit@5th88-1-78-241-216-44.fbx.proxad.net []
10:06 < ChaoZero> so, my next question will be.... from what partition am i booting when im getting the 'job control turned off' error?
10:06   <   KpoT!b2811eed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.129.30.237 [Quit: Page closed]
10:07 < ChaoZero> because the problem must be in that kernel; not playing nicely with my mmcblk device
10:09   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net
10:11   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:13   >>> mirco__!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:14   <   kml!~kml@subseo.pl [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
10:15   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:15   ~ mirco__ is now mirco
10:20   >>> steelrat2!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:22   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Remote host closed the connection]
10:31   <   gg!~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
10:35   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
10:41   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-030.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:46   >>> kml!~kml@subseo.pl
10:49   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-101-44.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:56   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-101-44.bb.netbynet.ru
11:01   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-101-44.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:14   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru
11:16   >>> lanthan_!~ze@p54B7BED9.dip.t-dialin.net
11:19   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7F66D.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
11:20   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
11:24   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
11:27   <   harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:34   >>> gg_!~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net
11:37   >>> Hexxeh!~Hexxeh@carbon.hexxeh.net
11:39   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:40   >>> lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79
11:42   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052232037.adsl.alicedsl.de
11:57   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
12:04   >>> markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
12:12 < markit_> @phh (on idle with wifi - does ubuntu eats as much as android ?)
12:12 < markit_> i didn`t measure idle with wifi (just idle with an usb device) but with an usb-mouse where results fpr ubuntu and android 2.2 where the same, but android 2.1 was 0.3W better
12:14 < markit_> or in numbers 2.7W 2.1, 3W 2.2, 3.15W ubuntu
12:14 < markit_> but my biggest problem was that the ubuntu image i used couldn`t load its rt3070driver,..
12:17   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru
12:18   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
12:19   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
12:24   >>> Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63
12:24   <   Da_Blitz!~Da_Blitz@203.56.250.63 []
12:24   <   guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
12:44   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
12:57   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
12:58 < mirco> Hi all, I can't find a place to download light_05 from pls help!
12:58   <   sraue_!~stephan@230-56-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch [Quit: Ex-Chat]
12:58   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
12:59 < ChaoZero> light_05?
12:59 < ChaoZero> define:p
13:00 < mirco> the binary used to control the backlight and mentioned on a blog page I used to setup...
13:06 < mirco> can't find it on wetpaint.com or gudinna.com
13:10 < mirco> damn it it's already integrated in the image, seems I forgot my brain in dreamland when I wokeup today!
13:13 < nelix> this no market thing is really annoying... so petty.
13:14 < nelix> a good place to get apps that is not google code would be a welcome sugestiong, as google returns so much junk
13:17   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
13:18   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:33   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-unat.cambridge.arm.com
13:47   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@p5B2153C2.dip.t-dialin.net
13:49   <   dl9pf!~quassel@p5B2153C2.dip.t-dialin.net [Changing host]
13:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
14:14   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-unat.cambridge.arm.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:27   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Quit: Leaving.]
14:27   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com
14:27   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
14:38   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
15:21   >>> Terminatux!~Terminatu@APuteaux-651-1-230-19.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr
15:21 < Terminatux> Hi dear comrades.
15:21 < woglinde> hi
15:23 < steelrat2> hi there
15:23 < Terminatux> Hi stellrat2
15:24 < Terminatux> Do you know if I can put a nilfs2 filesystem on a USB flash drive?
15:25   ~ steelrat2 is now steelrat
15:25 < Terminatux> I tried it but it seems I have not permission on it now. (even with su -)
15:26 < steelrat> mhh, I don't know why you could not use it...
15:27 < steelrat> sd is okay?
15:27 < Terminatux> You mean SD card?
15:27 < steelrat> yes
15:27 < ChaoZero> did u mount the partition?
15:28 < Terminatux> I only tried with a USB flash drive.
15:28 < Terminatux> I mounted it.
15:28 < ChaoZero> iow: mkfs.yaffs2 /dev/flashdrive1 or /mnt/point?
15:28 < ChaoZero> nilfs*
15:28 < ChaoZero> ok
15:29 < ChaoZero> make sure u do "sudo mkfs.yaffs2 /path/to/mountingpoint"
15:29 < ChaoZero> should do the trick
15:30 < Terminatux> Ok, not mkfs.nifls2 /dev/mountingpoint
15:30 < mirco> WTF!
15:30   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
15:30   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
15:31 < Terminatux> o.O
15:33 < mirco> It should be something like the following: sudo mkfs.nilfs2 /dev/sdXy
15:34 < Terminatux> I did it. ;-)
15:34 < woglinde> yaffs2 is for nand
15:35 < woglinde> not for mmc sdcard or emmc
15:37   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.176.76 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
15:38 < ChaoZero> true, sdXN would be better but im in the mmcblkdevice-mood today;)
15:40 < mirco> that's both OK, if yoou're on the AC it's probably mmc-anything if your on an intel machine it's sdx
15:41 < mirco> main point is not to use /mnt/anything
15:41 < Terminatux> ok
15:42 < Terminatux> What is the difference between /mnt and /media?
15:42 < mirco> There's no difference
15:42 < Terminatux> Ok ^^
15:42 < ogra_> media uis usually used by udisks for automounting stuff
15:43 < ogra_> while mnt is usually used for manually mounting things
15:43 < ogra_> effectively there is indeed no difference, they are just directories
15:43 < Terminatux> I can't create a folder on my USB flash drive wich uses nifls2 filesystem. :-(
15:44 < Terminatux> permission refused (permission non accordée in french)
15:45   <   lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
15:49   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.47.14
15:49 < Terminatux> Even if I use chmod 777 before :-/
15:57 < mirco> Terminatux: I'ld try to reformat the drive...
15:58 < Terminatux> Ok ;-)
15:58   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.47.14 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:06   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
16:06   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:19   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
16:23 < Terminatux> It doesn't work again. :-/
16:32   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
16:36   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
16:40 < mirco> what doesn't work again, be more specific tell me the cmd u're using...
16:42 < Terminatux> When I try to write something on this partition I get a "permission refused"
16:46   <   ChaoZero!c1acbb93@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.172.187.147 [Quit: Page closed]
16:48 < mirco> is it mounted, what perm's do you have, have you tried to repartition and reformat?
16:50   <   ranx_xero!~RanX_Xero@APoitiers-256-1-114-207.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr [Remote host closed the connection]
16:50 < Terminatux> I tried to reformat, but I can't have right to write on the partition
16:53 < mirco> I had the same prob just an hour ago, use another machine and repartition! If that doesn't work try pmagic boot-cd or gparted boot-cd... I used my Mac, and it didn't work right away but after a few trial and error I got it to work, now I'm installing from SD again...
16:53 < phh> markit_: hum ok
16:54 < Terminatux> Ok I will try again ;-)
16:55   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
16:58   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
17:00 < Terminatux> I don't use a SD card but an USB flah drive, it's supposed to work with nilfs2, right?
17:01 < phh> yeah
17:01 < phh> SD/usb card doesn't make any difference
17:01 < Terminatux> Thanks ;-)
17:01   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
17:02 < phh> (btw, since the info has been hidden in the log, I've got a flashplayer for firefox (and others.) from atrix ROM, and it mostly works :D)
17:03 < mirco> phh: you're so great!!! where can I get it?
17:03 < markit_> i have some new numbers,..
17:03   >>> flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81
17:04 < markit_> i removed 3G module and disconnected wifi, and compared power consumption again,..
17:04 < phh> mirco: http://husson.hd.free.fr/AC100/libflashplayer.so
17:04 < kalemas> two penny worth
17:04 < phh> mirco: you need chmod a+rw /dev/{,k}nv*
17:04 < phh> and the overlay
17:04 < markit_> androis 2.1 and ubuntu have quite the same
17:04 < kalemas> sorry
17:04 < mirco> what overlay?
17:04 < phh> mirco: http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/Multimedia/overlay.tar.gz extract that in your /
17:05 < phh> (and the chmod has to be done at every boot.)
17:05 < woglinde> hi phh
17:05 < phh> (and when I say mostly works, it means don't try it on videos.)
17:05 < markit_> @phh but the uninitialised wifi takes 550mW and the 3G 200mW in ubuntu,..
17:05 < phh> markit_: oO
17:05 < woglinde> phh you theft
17:05 < scoopr> phh, so ads work but nothing useful? ;)
17:05 < phh> scoopr: ads ?
17:05 < phh> ah ads
17:06 < phh> my brain understood A.D.S.
17:06 < phh> don't know why
17:06 < phh> scoopr: games work
17:06 < phh> stupid animations work
17:06 < scoopr> weebls \:D/
17:06 < woglinde> phh and youtube?
17:06 < phh> (loituma grls \o/)
17:06 < phh> woglinde: I said no video.
17:06 < phh> well ok
17:06 < Terminatux> @phh : A.D.S like a French unknown left-wing party?
17:06 < woglinde> phh to much spam
17:06 < phh> you can have video with L4T's nvrm_daemon
17:06 < phh> just no sound.
17:06 < markit_> @phh the 550 mw shocked me *G as i know rt3070 usb wifis that can be tuned to never use more than 300mW even when transmitting 85mbit (netto throughput)
17:07 < woglinde> with .37? *g*
17:07 < phh> woglinde: lo
17:07 < phh> l
17:09 < markit_> @phh but the rt3070 in the ac100 might be an older one, so 550mW at full rx (no powersave) might be reasonable for it,.. )-;
17:09 < phh> markit_: the problem is the driver.
17:09 < markit_> ~phh btw i need to fix the wifi drivers,..
17:09 < phh> .
17:09 < markit_> infact i know them quite well, i patched them some weeks ago for an arm9 based embedded board, to get configureable txpower and configureable bssid in adhoc mode,..
17:10   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
17:11 < markit_> i was wondering (none of them worked, but i didn`t investigated at the moment) what the 3 rt3070 modules are aimed for in the rootfs?
17:11 < phh> they are aimed at loading the wifi driver .. ? :p
17:11 < markit_> sure *G
17:11 < markit_> but why 3 modules?
17:11 < phh> ask ralink ?
17:11 < phh> they are all 3 needed
17:11 < markit_> hmm strange
17:11 < markit_> on my arm board i have just one *G
17:12 < markit_> but i compiled myself, linux staging drivers + some patches
17:12 < markit_> is there a sdk to compile them against the kernel of your image phh?
17:12 < phh> no
17:12 < woglinde> markit_ the rt3070 is the pure ralink one not the rt2x00 driver
17:12 < mirco> is there a firefox4 for armel?
17:13 < markit_> the rt2x00 are mac80211 bullshit drivecrs,..
17:13 < markit_> in the linux staging three there has benn rt2870 driver since a long while
17:14 < markit_> it works with r2870 and rt3070 and is infact a ralink driver, just merged rt2870 and rt3070
17:14 < woglinde> go away with your bullshit
17:14 < markit_> ?
17:14 < woglinde> the staging driver sucks
17:14 < woglinde> and never worked real
17:14 < markit_> no
17:14 < markit_> i have it under production use *G
17:15 < woglinde> for the ac100 it suckz
17:15 < markit_> do not mess up staging with mac80211
17:15 < phh> woglinde: ah we don't have the original chip ? :D
17:15 < woglinde> do not mess random kernel stuff with the rt2x00 git repos
17:16 < Terminatux> Do you think it's possible I need something to read / write on a nilfs2 partition with Fedora?
17:16 < woglinde> and you will need mac80211 drivers because wireless api is removed in few revs
17:16 < markit_> whatever, if i could compile it for the ac100, i think i can get it working, as said before, i know it quite well (and some of its endianness bugs aswell *G)
17:16 < woglinde> but go on with your complains
17:18 < marvin24> I updated the wifi drivers on .37 yesterday
17:18 < markit_> ok where are the 3 modules from? copied from somewhere our compiled yourself?
17:18 < marvin24> there are still some commit missing (appied in a few hours)
17:18 < marvin24> let's hope the best
17:18 < ogra_> .37 ?
17:19 < ogra_> did you forward port the .36 stuff ?
17:19 < marvin24> yes, on we
17:19 < marvin24> .36 is dead & obsolete now
17:19 < ogra_> nice
17:19 < ogra_> why not .39 then ?
17:19 < ogra_> to many changes ?
17:19 < marvin24> check git.kernel.org
17:19 < marvin24> ;-)
17:19 < ogra_> i saw the basic arch support landing
17:20 < marvin24> yes, more to come on .40
17:20 < marvin24> depends on the nvec status
17:20 < ogra_> i was just wondering why you dont develop the rest on .39
17:20 < marvin24> .39 isn't complete yet on the tegra side
17:20 < woglinde> hi marvin
17:20 < marvin24> I guess more will come in .40 and maybe complete in .41
17:21 < marvin24> so we cannot go faster
17:21 < phh> [16:16:38] <woglinde> and you will need mac80211 drivers because wireless api is removed in few revs <----- you mean they'll used implementation-dependant API ?
17:21 < marvin24> (which also has some benefits)
17:21 < woglinde> phh yes wireless api will be removed from kernel
17:21 < woglinde> maybee compat-wirless will preserve it
17:22 < phh> i'm not going to say it's stupid
17:22 < phh> but hum, wtf ?
17:23 < markit_> lets see, infact i like mac80211 drivers, but i don`t like them if they are too buggy/incomplete to be useable,..
17:24 < markit_> @phh your l4t image, uses a complete "binary" kernel or just some modules without source?
17:24 < phh> markit_: meeeeh ?
17:24 < markit_> meeh?
17:24 < phh> the sources (including wifi driver) is available at http://gitorious.org/ac100/
17:24 < phh> if that's the question
17:24   ogra_ feels like in a flock of sheep
17:25   >>> svp2!~svp@79.120.24.66
17:25 < markit_> ok, just because i asked if theres a sdk to compile a rt3070 driver against, and u said no,..
17:26   <   svp2!~svp@79.120.24.66 []
17:27 < woglinde> o.O
17:29 < phh> markit_: I don't consider kernel sources being a sdk
17:29 < markit_> but while in background i`ll try to compile/test "my own" rt3070 driver,.
17:30 < markit_> ok having the sources + a cross-compiler is imho an sdk *G
17:30 < ogra_> pfft, cross compilers
17:30 < markit_> but yes, most people want more *G
17:30   >>> lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79
17:30 < markit_> ok native compiler on the ac100 would be ok aswell *G
17:31   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru
17:31 < markit_> i have a queston to the drivers in your image,..
17:31 < markit_> i guess the should be loadable?
17:32 < phh> yes
17:32 < woglinde> o.O
17:33   >>> turbooster!~turbooste@g231167169.adsl.alicedsl.de
17:33 < woglinde> its tuesday not friday
17:33 < markit_> and this is a working rootfs aswell, or is it deprecated? http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/Ubuntu5.tar.lzma
17:33 < phh> markit_: it's working. but it depends on which kernel you're using.
17:33 < markit_> sure
17:34   <   lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
17:34 < woglinde> hm damn
17:34 < woglinde> I forgot to look how wpa_supplicant is using aes
17:34 < phh> recent kernels also need http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/2011-01-16/modules-4dd097f.tbz2
17:35 < phh> (more precisely, 4dd097f kernel needs it ;)
17:35 < markit_> boot.img came from http://share1t.com/mkldor
17:35 < markit_> and i think i have this module already
17:35   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
17:36 < markit_> but let me recheck this, as i already did copy the rootfs 3 times to my ac100 *G
17:36 < markit_> s/module/modules-4dd...
17:36 < flesh1911> hi guys, do you know where to get gcc-4.5.0-uclibc-patches-1.0.tar.bz2 for crossdev toolchain to build on gentoo?
17:36 < phh> markit_: copy *and* extracted ? :D
17:37 < phh> flesh1911: ..... uclibc ?
17:37 < ogra_> flesh1911, probably woglinde knows :)
17:37 < markit_> the first time for sure, but i'mnot sure what i did 00:03 last night at the end,..
17:37 < flesh1911> yeah, it's strange
17:37 < woglinde> no I dont know where to get it
17:38 < woglinde> I am building uclibc right from openembedded
17:38 < woglinde> no fiddling with searches patches
17:38 < woglinde> till later
17:39   >>> lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79
17:41 < markit_> phh markit_: I doubt leds eats that much
17:41 < markit_> one white led needs 15mW, but the blinking in standby is difficult
17:44 < flesh1911> o woglinde:
17:44 < flesh1911> do you know, why gentosh-ac100 overlay cannot be found by layman?
17:44 < markit_> infact it should use only 5mW in average, but its blinking seems to cause the dcdc to overadjust to the loadchange, so it causes standby concumption to change from 123mw to 200mW
17:44 < phh> markit_: oO
17:45 < markit_> my ac100 even gets high frequency audible when the standby led turns on
17:47 < markit_> but unplugging the cable from the board to the leds helps, if one really cares about some hours or even days prolonged standby time *G
17:47 < phh> markit_: now imagine that I can't hear my AC100
17:47 < markit_> btw andorid 2.2 manages to use 4mw less in standby than ubuntu/andorid 2.1
17:47 < phh> but I can hear my screen.
17:48 < markit_> i only hear it in standby, probable as i expect it to be even more silent in standby *G and the sound comes every 3 seconds or so,.. *G
17:49 < markit_> whatevecr *G
17:52 < markit_> back to the drivers,..
17:53 < markit_> in the kernel git, i just found the "typical" staging/rt3070|rt2870|rt2860 ones,..
17:54 < markit_> where are the ones u use at the momentn located in this kernel source? or aren`t they there?
17:55   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
17:55   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
17:58 < phh> markit_: drivers/network/wireless/DPAsomething
17:58 < phh> and it's not in make menuconfig
17:59   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@109.201.82.35
18:00 < mirco> Is there a Firefox4 available on armel?
18:00 < phh> ogra_: ?
18:00 < mirco> I read something they denied to offer a version for ppc...
18:00   ogra_ is using it atm
18:00 < mirco> ogra: which repo?
18:00 < phh> mirco: well armel is "a bit" more used than ppc.
18:00 < ogra_> using ubuntu natty with some modification
18:01 < ogra_> (you cant just upgrade)
18:01 < markit_> hm ok,..
18:01 < mirco> so it's only available in 11.04, but not 10.10 ...
18:01 < markit_> do all models have an wifi-bluetooth combo?
18:01 < phh> no
18:01 < phh> french have only wifi
18:01 < ogra_> libc in natty doesnt work on the tegra in the ac100 (intrestingly it seems to work on the harmony board)
18:02 < mirco> maybe I'll try pining...
18:02 < mirco> phh: german's have only wifi too!
18:02 < ogra_> mirco, right, thats what i do here
18:02 < phh> mirco: ah ?
18:02 < markit_> hmm DPA_RT3370_LinuxAP is working in AP mode?
18:02 < ogra_> but iot gets in my way all the time
18:02 < ogra_> mirco, ??
18:02 < phh> markit_: android 2.2 has AP mode yes
18:02 < mirco> ogra: what get's in your way?
18:03 < ogra_> libc-dev not being installable
18:03 < ogra_> developing natty isnt possible which is quite annoying for me
18:03 < mirco> especially as it's nearly released....
18:04 < ogra_> doesnt matter
18:04 < mirco> phh: what did you mean with: ah?
18:04 < phh> mirco: that I didn't know german model doesn't have BT :p
18:04 < mirco> phh: I'ld like to have bluetooth, but can life without...
18:04 < phh> mirco: same here
18:05   ogra_ cant for music
18:05 < mirco> phh: better no bluetooth then no 3G!
18:05 < markit_> ok but in ubuntu is AP mode available?,
18:05 < markit_> and jep mine (german one) seems to have no BT aswell
18:05 < phh> mirco: I don't have either.
18:05 < phh> markit_: haven't tried
18:05 < ogra_> markit_, i think it depends which driver you use ;)
18:06 < markit_> sure
18:06 < mirco> phh: I could have choosen a modell without 3G to it was 160 to 205€ ... But as I travel alot...
18:06 < steelrat> phh: I have been asking for usb bt for the 10v since days...
18:06 < phh> mirco: no smartphone ? :p
18:06 < markit_> afaik it even changes the device firmware for AP mode
18:06 < phh> steelrat: and i'm supposed to know what 10v is ? -_-'
18:06 < phh> markit_: that's likely yes
18:06 < mirco> phh: shure iP4 ... ;-)
18:06 < phh> mirco: ah.
18:06 < mirco> but when using it as modem you can't make calls
18:07 < phh> lol
18:07 < steelrat> phh: hey, you're the kernel-master, thought you know all the model numbers ;)
18:07 < phh> steelrat: I don't care with that ?
18:07 < phh> my kernel works on all models
18:07 < mirco> that's why I'm a lucky and proud multi-SIM owner...
18:08 < steelrat> phh: true
18:08 < mirco> phh: in your image which off the two xorg.conf files is the primary one!
18:08 < phh> mirco: /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf
18:10 < markit_> hmm the ac100 can do phone calls?
18:11   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 [Remote host closed the connection]
18:11 < mirco> mirco hope's this will do: mirco@ac100:~$  sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xorg.conf /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf; sudo ls -l /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf
18:12 < phh> markit_: no clue
18:12 < phh> mirco: err the opposite way
18:12   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051097079.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:12 < phh> so that you don't kill original conf
18:12 < ogra_> through a voip client for sure :)
18:12 < markit_> sure *G
18:12 < mirco> phh: I already did it... let me check my backup... :-(
18:13 < markit_> i was referring to : mirco	but when using it as modem you can't make calls
18:13 < phh> markit_: I meant for the iPhone4.
18:13 < ogra_> he referred to his phone i guess
18:13 < markit_> ok, rela iphone4 cant` do calls and data at the smae time??
18:13   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
18:14 < mirco> ogra: markit: yes I could use VoIP but I prefer GSM ... till now!
18:14 < markit_> nearly every phone can do this,..
18:14 < phh> markit_: not in america ;)
18:14 < phh> CDMA can't do that
18:14   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:14 < markit_> ok, *G
18:15 < markit_> in europe i have this problem only when i have only GSM coverage (like when i`m in the mountains), but not in 3G areas (i.e. nearly everywhere)
18:16 < arune> markit_: if you compile some modules for phhs 4dd097f kernel, could you please compile module ftdi_sio for me? :)
18:16 < markit_> btw in europe we also use CDMA, but not CDMA2000
18:17   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Client Quit]
18:17 < phh>  markit_yeah
18:19 < markit_> arune: hmm good idea, as i have and ftdi usb-serial aswell
18:20 < markit_> but, now i have todo some work, maybe in the evening/night *G
18:20 < arune> markit_: would be nice to have on the ac100
18:21 < ogra_> just use my kernel/modules from the other partition ;)
18:21 < ogra_> it has all that stuff
18:24 < phh> ok, time to use 3 computers at the same time. desktop, two ac100 (one for audio codec, one for .32)
18:26 < ogra_> you should replace the desktop with a third ac100
18:27 < phh> na better
18:27 < phh> dual seating on an ac100
18:27 < ogra_> three times !
18:27 < phh> yeah I think my brain can't manage that much.
18:28 < ogra_> you could set up a circle of monitors that way
18:28 < ogra_> and with a proper x2x setup you can move your mouse all around you then ;)
18:29 < phh> .
18:31 < mirco> markit: could I please place a modul order too? I'ld love to have g_composite... would make debugging much simpler!
18:31 < phh> mirco: debugging of what ? oO
18:31 < phh> there is already usbnet
18:31 < phh> and anyway usbnet is hardcoded in the kernel, you won't be able to load g_composite
18:32   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
18:32 < mirco> phh: debugging of a not starting X, as there's no TTY and only wlan I've no access to the machine when no X is runnign
18:32 < phh> yeah well usbnet is enough ?
18:33 < mirco> phh: in my test's it didn't bring up the interface correctly...
18:33 < phh> mirco: well then the problem is not just X
18:34 < phh> mirco: and if you want to get console
18:34 < phh> boot it "normally", get cmdline
18:34 < phh> and rebuild the image without the console=ttyS0
18:34 < mirco> phh: I've just reinstalled to SD and have additionaly searched for an old D-Link usbnet adapter and will do some test's now....
18:35 < phh> ???
18:35   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
18:35 < phh> mirco: when I say usbnet
18:35 < phh> I mean connect usbslave on ac100, usb master on your desktop
18:35 < phh> et voila.
18:35 < phh> you get an usb0 interface on both sides
18:35 < mirco> phh: this is what didn't work in my test's desktop interface came up but I couldn't ping...
18:35 < phh> just ifconfig them
18:35 < phh> well then your script is just not started
18:36 < mirco> phh: how shall I ifconfig a dev on a machine I've no access to?!?
18:36 < phh> mirco: rc.local ?
18:37 < mirco> phh: thx now that I've SD running again I'll try this on the MMC install!
18:37   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Read error: Operation timed out]
18:42 < phh> ok. i'll have to debug an initramfs without console
18:42 < phh> easy
18:48 < ogra_> just use the LED and a morse code generator ;)
18:48 < phh> why not
18:48 < phh> (just no morse :D)
18:49 < scoopr> hrm... NILFS: GC failed during preparation: cannot read source blocks: err=-17
18:49 < phh> oO
18:51 < scoopr> and the nilfs_cleanerd doesn't stay up
18:51 < phh> /usr/include/asm-generic/errno-base.h:#define   EEXIST          17      /* File exists */
18:51 < phh> lolwat.
18:51 < phh> i'd say, backup with tar and restore
18:51   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
18:52   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
18:57   >>> mornfall!~mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall
18:59 < scoopr> Actually, earlier message was: nilfs_cleanerd[2874]: cannot clean segments: File exists
19:00 < phh> see ? :p
19:00 < phh> but hum
19:00 < phh> I was fearing a emmc corruption
19:00 < phh> but na it's just nilfs2.
19:00 < phh> so just backup and restore with a clean fs
19:00 < scoopr> I wonder if it has some lock for the gc
19:00 < scoopr> but yeah, a backup is probably the safest
19:06 < mirco> phh: I got I/O error when trying to backup my SD... have had those before when I installed earlier today!!!
19:07 < phh> mirco: how old is your SD?
19:07 < mirco> same age than the AC 3 Weeks
19:10 < mirco> sudo umount /mnt/sd , umount.nilfs2: cleanerd (pid=5331) still exists on /dev/sdb1. waiting.....failed , umount.nilfs2: /mnt/sd: device is busy
19:10 < mirco> had the same prob with a kingston SD just a few hours ago!
19:11 < mirco> this is a brand new but cheap "extrememory" 32GB
19:12 < scoopr> Man, I've got lots of useless crap on the ac100, still tarring :P
19:13 < woglinde> re
19:14 < mirco> and I can't fu...ng tar it because off nilfs2 or a brand new but buggy SD!
19:15 < mornfall> Hey there, is there a current status page somewhere? It's a bit of a mystery what works and what doesn't... (I would probably buy AC100 if I could get a real distro on it)...
19:15 < mirco> I can't even kill cleanerd! only solution is a reboot of my desktop!
19:17 < mornfall> Sound, networking, accelerated graphics and reasonable battery life would probably qualify as good enough.
19:20 < mirco> not really, you'll have to try... I just did a fresh install: here's a paste of what I did: http://pastebin.com/xCPT8RFK
19:22 < mirco> sound and accelerated video are not rock solid, if you plan to use it as a mobil Terminal like I do you'll be fine!
19:22 < mirco> Gotta go, CU later!
19:23   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC69ECE.dip.t-dialin.net
19:25 < woglinde> mornfall no sound
19:26   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6AB4C.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:27   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
19:27 < gildean> phh: as the log grows, you might want to change the topic to point http://ac100.tunk.org/logs/
19:29 < gildean> it has automatically the new weekly log link when irssi opens it, with links to old weekly logs & full log
19:31   ChanServ sets +o phh
19:31   >>> topic changed by phh: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/logs/
19:38   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
19:41   <   Isakk!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net []
19:42   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.46.187
19:43 < woglinde> marvin ping
19:45   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru
19:46   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
19:53   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
19:53 < woglinde> hi lenios
19:54   phh sets -o phh
19:57 < lenios> hi
19:58   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru [Read error: Operation timed out]
20:05 < svp> hyperBorea
20:12 < woglinde> what?
20:16   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.46.187 []
20:16 < pm215_> hyperBorea> hopefully not a password :-)
20:19 < marvin24_DT> ho woglinde
20:19 < marvin24_DT> call me marvin24_DT
20:21   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 []
20:21 < woglinde> hrms
20:22 < woglinde> marivn did you cherry-pick the rt2x00 patches from thr rt2x00 git tree?
20:24 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:24 < marvin24_DT> look good now
20:24 < marvin24_DT> no instabilities anymore
20:24 < marvin24_DT> but rfkill doesn't work :-(
20:24 < woglinde> ?
20:24 < marvin24_DT> well, I had wifi problems in the past
20:24 < woglinde> rfkill can only do soft-kill
20:25 < marvin24_DT> if I activate it, chip is hard killed
20:25 < woglinde> for hard you need the gpio trigger
20:25 < marvin24_DT> and doesn't wake up
20:25 < woglinde> yes
20:25 < marvin24_DT> I think this needs some code
20:25   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru
20:26 < woglinde> ?
20:26 < marvin24_DT> finaly found out how to cherry-pick stuff
20:26 < marvin24_DT> !
20:26 < woglinde> hm
20:26 < marvin24_DT> there is a wifi init in board-paz00.c
20:26 < woglinde> seems we dont have /proc/test_programm anymore?
20:27 < marvin24_DT> for .37?
20:27 < marvin24_DT> never
20:27 < woglinde> okay
20:27 < marvin24_DT> there is a power gpio
20:27 < marvin24_DT> but I don't know how to implement it
20:27 < woglinde> than you have to simulate echo 1 > /proc/test_programm/wifi3g
20:29 < marvin24_DT> isn't there a special key for this on the keyboard?
20:29 < marvin24_DT> no need to use this tricks
20:29 < woglinde> if it really works
20:36   >>> hyperlemming!~Luke_Skyw@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
20:38 < bmw> marvin24_DT: Backlight doesn't work?
20:39   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com []
20:42 < marvin24_DT> bmw: it switched on/off in the past
20:42 < marvin24_DT> but I think I messed up the config
20:43 < marvin24_DT> no regulation of course
20:45 < bmw> default = maximum?
20:47   <   Terminatux!~Terminatu@APuteaux-651-1-230-19.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr []
20:47 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:47 < marvin24_DT> full on or full off
21:03   >>> bigla!~bigla@e-216.vc-graz.ac.at
21:08 < marvin24_DT> oh, deattaching of console works when support for it is acutally compiled in ;-)
21:16 < woglinde> ?
21:17 < woglinde> so x with fbdev?
21:25 < marvin24_DT> yep
21:33 < muromec> marvin24_DT, any progress with suspend?
21:34 < phh> okay. initramfs doesn't crash (thanks wifiled for the debugging.), the system, tested on another ac100 with another kernel boots
21:34 < marvin24_DT> well, it's the last pice on my list ...
21:34 < phh> so the problem is the combination.
21:36 < marvin24_DT> mmh, no keyboard, no mouse, no android
21:37 < marvin24_DT> not my day
21:38   >>> mirco!~mirco@pD9E5772D.dip.t-dialin.net
21:39 < Hexxeh> phh: Do you have a list of steps for what exactly you changed/installed on your accelerated Ubuntu image?
21:40 < phh> Hexxeh: kernel, /etc/X11/Xph, /L4T
21:40 < phh> mostly
21:41 < Hexxeh> so correct Xorg version, nvrm_daemon start, correct X config, pretty much it?
21:44 < Hexxeh> Aha! Noticed a difference, you're using nvrm_gpu from the Android partition! I don't have that, must be what I'm missing.
21:44 < phh> Hexxeh: you're on .32 right ?
21:44 < Hexxeh> yup
21:44 < phh> there is no nvrm_gpu.ko on .32
21:45   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Quit: Leaving.]
21:45   >>> nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au
21:48 < bigla> muromec: - is this yours? what does it mean? http://twitpic.com/4a3vdo/full
21:49 < muromec> mine
21:49   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
21:52 < bigla> muromec: you were successful at running natty on ac100`
21:52 < bigla> ?
21:54 < bigla> phh: omxplayer2 works from Linux4Tegra, using L4T's nvrm_daemon and android's nvrm_gpu.ko --- is this already copied in your ubuntu rootfs or do i need to do it myself? -- if yes - how?
21:54 < phh> bigla: you won't have sound.
21:54 < muromec> bigla, if crap on picture is "successful", yep
21:54 < phh> bigla: extract http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/Multimedia/overlay.tar.gz ni /
21:54 < phh> in*
21:56 < bigla> can i do it while system is running?
21:56 < phh> sure
22:00 < mornfall> What's wrong with sound on the thing?
22:00 < bigla> how can i disable nvrm_daemon so i could overwrite it?
22:00 < mornfall> bigla: You can unlink and copy out the new version.
22:00 < mornfall> Shouldn't matter. :)
22:00 < bigla> mornfall: how? (total noob sry)
22:01 < phh> bigla: don't overwrite it.
22:01 < mornfall> Well, you can mv it out of the way.
22:01 < mornfall> Which is probably a lot safer. :)
22:01 < bigla> phh: ok... so overwrite the rest...
22:02 < phh> bigla: uh ?
22:02 < phh> overwrite nothing prefarbly -_-'
22:02 < bigla> when i extract the overlay
22:02 < bigla> in / directory
22:02 < flesh1911> has anyone managed to setup distcc to speedup compilation on ac100?
22:02 < bigla> --> he asks me to overwrite nvrm_daemon
22:02 < phh> flesh1911: hum, as I have 2 ac100 I might want to do that.
22:02 < phh> bigla: yeah well don't overwrite it.
22:02 < bigla> okay
22:02 < bigla> phh: thanks
22:03 < flesh1911> i mean, with desktop machine
22:03 < phh> wow
22:03 < phh> cross compiling distcc
22:03 < phh> half cross*
22:03 < phh> doesn't sound easy
22:03 < flesh1911> yeah, like native compiler on ac100+ cross-compiler on desktop
22:04 < flesh1911> well, if it calls compiler by some predefined name it seems doable
22:07 < flesh1911> ok, should've googled first: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml
22:08   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225006192.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:08   ~ stenzel_ is now stenzel
22:09 < stenzel> Hi, has anyone a 2.6.32 config file or the 2.6.32 equivalent of tegra-2.6.29-arm2-ac100-boot.img  somewhere downloadable?
22:10 < woglinde_> android?
22:10   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052232037.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
22:10 < phh> stenzel: it's in toshiba's kernel sources
22:10 < mornfall> phh: It's not that hard, although icecc may be a lot easier than distcc in this respect.
22:11 < woglinde_> its in /proc/config.gz too
22:12 < stenzel> phh..hm .. I did not find it in the 2.6.32 kernel sources .. maybe I should look again
22:12 < phh> stenzel: arch/arm/config/*paz*
22:13 < stenzel> arch/arm/configs/tegra_paz00_android_defconfig .. ok .. thanks
22:16 < mornfall> phh: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream#Using_icecream_in_heterogeneous_environments
22:16 < stenzel> woglinde_  i don't have a running 2.6.32 kernel .. what about the "2.6.32 equivalent of tegra-2.6.29-arm2-ac100-boot.img" .. does this exist anywhere
22:18 < stenzel> when I use tegra_paz00_android_defconfig, I get "kernel/power/wakelock.c:26:18: error: nvos.h: No such file or directory"
22:18 < phh> oO
22:18 < phh> wtf are you doing ? oO
22:18 < stenzel> trying to compile a 2.6.32 kernel :-)
22:19 < phh> yeah well, you're doing it badly it seems ...
22:19 < stenzel> disabling WAKELOCK helps
22:19 < phh> are you building it with ARCH=arm at least ?
22:19 < stenzel> care to tell me how to better?
22:19 < phh> google cross building linux kernel i'd say
22:20   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225006192.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:20 < stenzel> ok .. I was naive enough to think the Makefile was setup properly
22:21   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052230177.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:22 < phh> lol ?
22:22 < phh> it's not makefile's role to hardcode cross building values
22:22 < phh> especially for kernel that doesn't have to be crossbuilt
22:28 < stenzel> phh: ok .. this looks better now .. thanks .. if you build your kernel natively, how do you flash it?
22:29   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
22:29 < phh> stenzel: abootimg /dev/mmcblk0p2
22:29 < phh> with proper partition table driver
22:29 < woglinde> phh do you have a link to your actual initrd?
22:29   >>> marvin24_ac!~marvin24@f051097079.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:30 < phh> woglinde: which one ? :D
22:30   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051097079.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
22:30 < woglinde> external sdcard boot
22:30 < woglinde> for .37
22:31 < phh> yeah well abootimg -x any initramfs
22:31 < phh> either mine or ogra_'s
22:31   <   lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:35 < marvin24_ac> something killed my emmc partitions
22:35 < phh> ogra_: is there a verbose mode for ubuntu's init ?
22:35   >>> lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79
22:35 < woglinde> marvin ugh
22:36   <   lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:36 < marvin24_ac> np, habe backups
22:36 < marvin24_ac> *have
22:36   >>> lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79
22:36 < marvin24_ac> ac100 keyboard
22:36   marvin24_ac notices > 70 users in the channel
22:37 < lenios> it's like kernel version number, going up
22:39   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Remote host closed the connection]
22:42   <   turbooster!~turbooste@g231167169.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
22:42   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:52 < woglinde> marvin hm which was the wifi gpio?
22:53   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:59   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
23:00   <   marvin24_ac!~marvin24@f051097079.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 241 seconds]
23:04 < topi`> I think I'll try out the Genesi Efika MX if I can't make my AC100 stable and usable...
23:05 < topi`> although the Genesi is just a 800mhz cortex-a8
23:05   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
23:07 < woglinde> xphh hm whats gpio_set_value exactly doing in kernel?
23:07 < phh> uh ?
23:07 < phh> setting output to high or low ?
23:07 < phh> or high impedance
23:09 < woglinde> so its not on off
23:09 < phh> it's on/off/high impedance
23:09 < phh> well i'm not sure set_value can do high impedance actually.
23:11   <   bigla!~bigla@e-216.vc-graz.ac.at []
23:12 < woglinde> hm because the wifi init on ventana and seabord looks a bit diffrent
23:13 < markit_> hi (back again,..)
23:14 < markit_> my wifi ist still not working (but the 3 modules are loaded and i have an ra0 interface,...)
23:14   >>> turbooster!~turbooste@g231167169.adsl.alicedsl.de
23:14 < markit_> power consumption with loaded drivers went up from 3.1 to 3.4W *G
23:14 < woglinde> markit which kernel?
23:15 < markit_> tkaing the interface down helps only marginally, but the biggest problem is the driver is infact nt working
23:15 < markit_> phh
23:15 < woglinde> rfkill
23:15 < woglinde> echo 1 > /proc/test_program/wifi3g
23:15 < markit_> i guess a 4dd097f
23:16 < markit_> ah *G
23:16 < phh> that works ?
23:17   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-204-247.pools.arcor-ip.net
23:18 < markit_> no afaics
23:19 < markit_> it still can`t even scan
23:19 < phh> ah.
23:19 < markit_> so how do i get working wifi?
23:19   <   mirco!~mirco@pD9E5772D.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: mirco]
23:20 < phh> no clue
23:20 < phh> try disabling/reenabling
23:20 < phh> with various ways
23:20 < phh> including ifconfig up/down, rmmoding, and echo 0/1 > wifi3g
23:20 < phh> and that's no joke
23:24 < markit_> ok *G
23:25 < markit_> so why was "everybody" so confident that ralink drivers are better than others, some hours ago,.. *G
23:25 < phh> I said nothing in the discussion :p
23:26 < phh> no driver worked properly for me
23:26 < markit_> true
23:27 < woglinde> compat-wirless with git rt2x00 overlay worked fairly okay for me
23:28 < phh> yeah well last time I tried it was 2 months ago, I agree it's way too much.
23:28   <   nelix!~nlx@home.nelix.id.au [Quit: Leaving.]
23:30 < woglinde> http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=kernel-next.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac9a15eba97d7781689fec780519bb187d2e16dd
23:31 < markit_> i know the rt2x00 stability limitations already, no need to retry it (for the moment), imho *G
23:32 < markit_> so second question, does anyone know how to shut the wifi down completely *G
23:32 < woglinde> echo 0 > /proc/test_program/wifi3g
23:32 < markit_> android power consumption is identical with physically removed wifi, or disabled via software,..
23:32 < phh> rmmod modules ?
23:32 < markit_> this saves only marginally,..
23:33 < woglinde> hm okay I see it now on seaboard wifi is connected via sdio
23:33 < markit_> compared to lifting up the keyboard an d unplugging it *G
23:33 < phh> markit_: lol
23:33 < phh> woglinde: yeah "real" embed systems have sdio wifi chips
23:35 < woglinde> hm PAZ00_WIFI_RST is definied but not used
23:36 < woglinde> I am not sure marvins wifi_init is correct
23:38 < markit_> hmm wow i did some disable reanable stuff
23:39 < markit_> and it did scan so far,.. *G
23:40 < markit_> im not really sure if sdio is the correct choice for an 802.11n wifi anymore,..
23:40 < phh> markit_: why ?
23:40 < markit_> as it has to cope eith about 150mbit throughput
23:41 < markit_> as ralink drivers afaik have quite much protocol overhead,..
23:41 < woglinde> hm sorry for flood
23:41 < woglinde> ah no I will use pastebin
23:41 < markit_> and SDIO is not an open standard, when u need this thoughput afair *G
23:42 < woglinde> we need to translate this to acutal kernel
23:42 < woglinde> to get wifi enable/disable
23:42 < woglinde> http://pastebin.com/ZhKLUqmf
23:42   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
23:42 < markit_> EBI would be appropriate imho *G
23:42 < phh> EBI ?
23:43 < markit_> extenal bus interface
23:43 < phh> never heard
23:43 < markit_> usually around on arm cpus
23:43 < phh> aaaaaaaahhhhhhh
23:43 < phh> that ebi
23:43 < markit_> think of it as something like pci bus on PCs
23:44 < markit_> many wireless chips support it, but usually noone writes drivers for this *G
23:44 < phh> isn't ebi just an arbitrer for memory bus sharing ?
23:44 < markit_> probably as it gets very device dependant,..
23:45 < markit_> jep but usual faster/better arm cpus have more than one EBI
23:45 < markit_> so u don't have to share wifi and memeory,..
23:45 < phh> yeah well, it makes integration and pcb more complicated
23:45 < phh> serial bus is easier
23:45 < markit_> jep
23:45 < markit_> clear, but i don ot like sdio *G
23:46 < markit_> clear, but i don not like sdio *G
23:46 < woglinde> I hate this useless strings "wlan_pwrn"
23:46 < markit_> and it`s not even serial if running on this speed
23:46 < phh> markit_: yeah well it's 8 bit
23:46 < phh> still better than the 32bit of ebi
23:46 < markit_> afair only SDIO SPI mode is an open standard,..
23:47 < markit_> SPI (1bit)
23:48 < markit_> whatever,.. i`m just amused why this sdio wifi consumes so much power *G
23:48 < phh> markit_: it's a usb one
23:48 < markit_> than im amaused aswell
23:48 < markit_> than im amused aswell
23:49   >>> br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
23:49 < markit_> but a bit happier, as i now rt3070 usb wifis, but not sdio ones (just believed they cold exist *GG)
23:50 < markit_> infact i have an 400mhz arm9 board, with an rt3070 usb wifi, that in total needs as much power as this wifi alone *G
23:50 < woglinde> lol board-seabord has rwxr-xr-x
23:50 < woglinde> .c
23:51 < markit_> ah ok you where talking about different board, above regarding sdio wifi *G
--- Day changed Wed Mar 30 2011
00:00 < woglinde> hm yeah I found marvins error I think
00:00 < woglinde>  gpio_set_value(PAZ00_WIFI_PWRN, 0);
00:00 < woglinde> that should be  gpio_set_value(PAZ00_WIFI_PWRN, 1);
00:01 < phh> ?
00:01 < phh> the N means it's inverted
00:01 < phh> should mean.
00:01 < woglinde> too bad he is asleep
00:03   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@f052239000.adsl.alicedsl.de
00:03 < woglinde_> re
00:03 < woglinde_> hm
00:03 < woglinde_> on .29
00:03 < woglinde_> NvOdmGpioSetState(s_hGpio, s_hWlanShutdownPin, mode);
00:04 < woglinde_> and mode is 1
00:04 < woglinde_> than its on
00:04 < woglinde_> gpio direction is out
00:04   <   br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/]
00:04 < woglinde_> ret = gpio_direction_output(PAZ00_WIFI_PWRN, 0);
00:04 < woglinde_> means is before in marvin's code
00:05 < woglinde_> which means set the direction and default to 0
00:05 < markit_> ok network manager failed to connect, but iwconfig worked,..
00:05 < woglinde_> network manager is stupid
00:05 < markit_> i know
00:05 < markit_> but i gave it a try *g
00:05 < woglinde_> and iwconfig is dead too
00:05 < woglinde_> get familiar with crda and iw
00:06 < markit_> when i have time *G
00:06 < woglinde_> phh I but I want to let marvin break his wifichip first
00:06   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052230177.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:06 < woglinde_> so what we have to do from userspace
00:07 < markit_> what do you want to do with setting PAZ00_WIFI_PWRN ?
00:07 < woglinde_> make the wifi_led_gpio and wifi_shutdown_gpio acessable and connect it to the wifi button
00:08   >>> IZ3GME!~yaaic@net-93-70-116-233.cust.dsl.vodafone.it
00:08 < woglinde_> markit study the .36/.37 code
00:08 < markit_> ah ok, hmm the wifi button is F8 imho *GG
00:09 < markit_> but yes it culd have a secondary usage *GGG
00:09 < phh> yes wifi is F8
00:09 < markit_> that even matches its labeling
00:09 < woglinde_> phh or do you want to try it first?
00:10 < woglinde_> you could test with the led pin
00:10 < markit_> hmm does the wifi_shutdown_gpio work?
00:10   woglinde_ wonders if there are protections on the gpio
00:10 < markit_> does it really power the wifi down?
00:10   >>> br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
00:10 < woglinde_> when setting the wifi_led_gpio to input
00:10 < woglinde_> markit yes
00:11 < markit_> hmm why input?
00:11 < woglinde_> markit because you dont know whats behind the pin
00:11 < woglinde_> it was only a thought of me
00:11 < markit_> does the /proc/test_program/wifi3g use this gpio?
00:11 < woglinde_> yes
00:11 < woglinde_> I checked the .29 code
00:11 < markit_> hmm than it does not power it down
00:11 < woglinde_> markit go play ahead with .29 kernel
00:12 < markit_> u mean?
00:13 < woglinde_> you are talking more shit than me
00:13 < markit_> woglinde_	markit because you dont know whats behind the pin
00:13 < markit_> ok so you just hope wifi_led_gpio is driving the led, but u don`t know,..
00:13 < woglinde_> no
00:13 < woglinde_> *sigh*
00:13 < woglinde_> forget it
00:14 < markit_> hmm ok
00:14 < markit_> u guessu know that if u wanna control the led u have to put the gpio as output direction,..
00:14 < markit_> and make sure this pin is not multiplexed to something else, so u can use at gpio,..
00:15 < woglinde_> my I idea was to test the led gpio first
00:15 < woglinde_> a broken led isnt that bad as an broken wifi
00:15 < markit_> and find out if pullup/pulldown resistors are configured correctly, everything very funny if u don`t have board speciifactions, in know *GG
00:15 < markit_> hmm this wifi isn`t worth much *G
00:15 < markit_> u can get it for 10€ *G
00:16 < markit_> but til  now i havent found how to open the display to exchange it *GG
00:16 < markit_> so i better stop talking *G
00:16 < woglinde_> ?
00:16 < woglinde_> wifi is not in the display
00:24 < markit_> not *G
00:24   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-204-247.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
00:24 < markit_> hmm than i should have looked better,..
00:25 < markit_> i just found the plug to plug it out, ant the cables where going somewha towards display hinge *G
00:25 < woglinde_> oh my god looking at this code makes me to puke
00:25 < woglinde_> #define NVODM_PORT(x) ((x) - 'a')
00:25   >>> Obi-Wan4!~obiwan@host134-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
00:25 < woglinde_>  {NVODM_PORT('k'), 5, NvOdmGpioPinActiveState_Low},  // WLAN-OFF
00:33   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
00:37 < woglinde_> okay I give up for today
00:37 < woglinde_> this nvidia code suckz
00:39   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
00:44   <   woglinde_!~heinold@f052239000.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
00:46   <   IZ3GME!~yaaic@net-93-70-116-233.cust.dsl.vodafone.it [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:46   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
01:01   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
01:15   <   Obi-Wan4!~obiwan@host134-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
01:16   <   br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
01:17 < markit_> btw does chromium work on the ac100, if i compile myself, or .. ?
01:22 < phh> it should work on ubuntu
01:23 < phh> if you don't have security stuf
01:23 < markit_> hmm it just crashed with illigela instruction,..
01:23 < markit_> if i just apt-get it
01:23 < markit_> security stuff?
01:25   >>> alter2|2!~kvirc@188.232.153.38
01:25   <   alter2!~kvirc@188.232.153.38 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:59   <   turbooster!~turbooste@g231167169.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
02:00   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
02:10   <   hyperlemming!~Luke_Skyw@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:55   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
03:42 < phh> markit_: security-updates repo
03:42 < phh> or something like that
03:48 < markit_> hmm i googled around, and found that this problem is fixed, but not in the chromium packets that are in repos,..
03:49 < markit_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/735877
03:53 < markit_> gn8
03:54 < phh> heli attack 3 works in flash \o/
03:54 < phh> and youtube works with L4T's nvrm_daemon ('just' no soundà
03:54 < phh> )
03:55   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@109.201.82.35 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
03:57   <   markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
07:46   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
07:57   <   grandrew!~andrew@95-27-159-247.broadband.corbina.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
08:13   >>> antonl!~anton@213.33.220.118
08:57   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 []
09:25   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
09:29   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
09:32   >>> Belna!~Thomas@DSL01.212.114.252.242.ip-pool.NEFkom.net
09:50   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
09:50   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
10:11   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
10:16   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:17   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC69ECE.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
10:27   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
10:29   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:33   <   Belna!~Thomas@DSL01.212.114.252.242.ip-pool.NEFkom.net [Remote host closed the connection]
10:34   <   phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
10:35   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
10:37   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@109.201.82.35
10:41   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
10:48   >>> phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151
11:04   <   phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:04   >>> phh_!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
11:16   >>> lanthan__!~ze@p54B7B86E.dip.t-dialin.net
11:16   <   lanthan_!~ze@p54B7BED9.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
11:19   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
11:25   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-adcbosqqpwxgqmfo
11:27   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
11:28   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:31   >>> svp2!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
11:32   <   svp1!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:11   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@109.201.82.35 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:12   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@109.201.82.35
12:27   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:01   >>> devonborn!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241
13:06   <   devonborn!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241 [Ping timeout: 253 seconds]
13:06   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
13:09   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:19   <   antonl!~anton@213.33.220.118 []
13:24   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
13:36   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:37   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
13:45   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:46   >>> woglinde!~henning@p5DDC0812.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:47   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@p5B215746.dip.t-dialin.net
13:49   <   dl9pf!~quassel@p5B215746.dip.t-dialin.net [Changing host]
13:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
13:49   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@109.201.82.35 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:55 < woglinde> marvin24 ping
13:55 < marvin24> moin woglinde
13:55   >>> markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
13:57   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
13:57 < marvin24> woglinde: what's up?
13:57 < woglinde> marvin24 I looked at the wifi_init and the .29 code
13:58 < woglinde> for /proc/test_programm
13:58 < woglinde> hm I am nearly sure we need to set the gpio to high
13:58 < woglinde> besides that we should set the led_gpio too
13:58 < woglinde> and make it acessable from userspace
13:58 < marvin24> well, led just makes the led glimm
13:59 < marvin24> tried inverting the power gpio?
13:59   <   harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
13:59 < woglinde> yeah nice user feature
13:59 < marvin24> I'm wondering because it's working now
13:59 < woglinde> uh?
13:59 < marvin24> as it is
14:00 < marvin24> what happens if it is reverted
14:00 < woglinde> and why was the rfkill there?
14:00 < marvin24> either it has power or not
14:00 < woglinde> I wanted to break your hw first
14:00 < woglinde> *g*
14:00 < marvin24> you won't break anything
14:01 < woglinde> hm and last task we should the toggle connect to the f8
14:01 < woglinde> again
14:02 < woglinde> marvin24 and looking either at the /proc/test_programm and the nvidia gpio api makes me vomit
14:03   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
14:03 < ogra_> please dont connect anything directly to an F key
14:03 < marvin24> there is CONFIG_GPIO_SYSFS
14:03 < woglinde> ogra hm
14:03 < woglinde> marvin yes
14:03 < ogra_> woglinde, the situation with the touchpad button is already bad enough
14:03 < ogra_> use a modifier at least
14:04 < woglinde> hm okay
14:04 < woglinde> but that has to wait
14:04 < marvin24> I havn't played with the sysfs interface yet
14:04 < woglinde> marvin but its not so easy to use like echo  1 > /foo
14:04 < woglinde> I looked at it
14:04 < ogra_> i'm not sure what the key left of the right ctrl is, but that seems appropriate for becoming Fn
14:05 < marvin24> the question is if kernel or userspace should toggle something
14:05 < woglinde> ????????
14:06 < woglinde> how will you set flightmode?
14:07 < marvin24> I mean userspace receives a key and changes the gpio via sysfs
14:07 < Eruquen> does the hdmi output work in ubuntu?
14:08 < ogra_> woglinde, how do you set it today in ubuntu ?
14:08 < woglinde> hm and I wondered what the gpio for wlan_reset is usefull
14:08 < woglinde> ogra tell me
14:08 < ogra_> there is no tool or anything yet
14:08 < ogra_> dell ships a tool called aircraft manager on theor preinstalled ubuntus
14:09 < woglinde> ogra so netbook edition isnt allowed at planes?
14:09 < ogra_> but i cant find any code for it in the archive
14:10 < ogra_> ah
14:10 < ogra_> http://www.ubuntumini.com/2008/12/aircraft-manager-save-battery-by.html
14:11 < ogra_> aha, and http://askubuntu.com/questions/24374/how-can-i-switch-on-flight-mode
14:11 < ogra_> no UI, but there is a command
14:11 < ogra_> sudo rfkill block all
14:12 < woglinde> muhahahahaaa
14:12 < woglinde> thats only soft
14:12 < woglinde> rfkill cannt do the hard switch
14:12 < ogra_> not through /dev/rfkill ?
14:12 < woglinde> no
14:13 < woglinde> I talked at the wireless channel about it
14:13 < woglinde> and not all devs like the rfkill api
14:14 < ogra_> hmm, funny, NM in natty is supposed to have a flight mode switch
14:14 < ogra_> i cant find it
14:15 < ogra_> debian/patches/nm-applet-use-indicator.patch: revert Flight Mode, it's
14:15 < ogra_>     confusing users and not accurate; plus doesn't allow re-enabling just wifi
14:15 < ogra_>     from flight mode (when flights allow wifi, for instance)
14:15 < ogra_>     (LP: #704295, #712122)
14:15 < ogra_> GRMPF
14:15 < ogra_> !
14:18   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-adcbosqqpwxgqmfo [Quit: Ex-Chat]
14:22   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-exyjiudpxtnopbkk
14:30   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
14:31   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-exyjiudpxtnopbkk [Quit: Ex-Chat]
14:32   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-owjfirzqerhldjnp
14:53 < phh_> ogra_: hey, why is there no qemu for armel on ubuntu ? :D
14:53   ~ phh_ is now phh
14:57 < muromec> phh, hah?
14:57 < muromec>   Candidate: 0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu3
14:57 < phh> muromec: it doesn't install here
14:58 < phh> bad dependency or something like that
14:59 < kenws> phh: you may want to add the linaro-maintainers/tools ppa that contains qemu-linaro which has better arm support afaik
14:59   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.82.35
14:59 < kenws> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:linaro-maintainers/tools
15:01 < phh> ah thanks
15:06 < ogra_> yeah, thats the right one
15:06 < ogra_> though i thought the natty version should build on armel too
15:15   <   peterOnArm!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de [Remote host closed the connection]
15:18   >>> ac100peter!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de
15:28   >>> polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171
15:40 < mirco> Hi hi, has one of you installed exfat-utils
15:40 < mirco> ?
15:41   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
15:52   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: mirco]
15:53   <   markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:59   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru
16:07   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.82.35 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:08   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
16:10   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-83-216.bb.netbynet.ru [Read error: Operation timed out]
16:12   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:16   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
16:19   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
16:20   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.44.104
16:44   <   polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171 []
16:47   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.44.104 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:57 < Eruquen> how do I get ubuntu to display the screen on the hdmi port?
16:58 < Eruquen> mplayer over hdmi works but randr -q does not display any other screens except for the default tft screen
17:03   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.115
17:03 < phh> Eruquen: edit /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf
17:10   <   svp2!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Quit: Leaving.]
17:27 < topi`> ogra_: do you know of anyone who would be working on building a new ubuntu arch? I'm talking about the hardfloat ABI, so armhf
17:28 < topi`> somebody said povray on armhf would be 200% faster than on armel
17:28 < topi`> I mean armel+softfp
17:29 < woglinde> 200?
17:29 < ogra_> topi`, ask in #linaro, they are working on bootstrapping HF for the O release
17:29 < woglinde> it was 20%
17:29 < woglinde> to 30
17:29 < woglinde> for the examples
17:30 < topi`> wog: I bet you'd get 20-30% for most code using the FPU, but povray was completely killed by the int-fp-register-swapping that the softfp causes
17:31 < topi`> if you have ever looked at the code of povray (I have), you'll notice that it's full of subroutine calls in such a fashion that code inlining is impossible
17:32 < pm215_> how many people running ARM based systems do so in order to run povray 24/7, though? :-)
17:33 < phh> atm perhaps not many. wait for kalel.
17:33 < woglinde> I am only rephrasing what mru and aholler get out of there tests on panda/tegra/beagle
17:33 < ogra_> pixar employees that got an ac100 for free ?
17:33 < phh> well, even with tegra2 it's already great ...
17:33 < scoopr> redundant-array-of-inexpensive-arm-devices ;)
17:33 < phh> ogra_: really ?
17:33 < ogra_> lol, no
17:33 < phh> ah
17:34 < Eruquen> phh: thanks, I'll have a look
17:35 < Eruquen> btw: playing with scaling_min_freq somehow makes the cpu remember the lowest setting
17:35 < Eruquen> booting takes ages :/
17:39 < topi`> Eruquen: I have noticed that as well, but haven't been able to figure out under which conditions that occurs.
17:40   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
17:48   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B5142F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:19   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
18:28   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:33   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.115 [Remote host closed the connection]
18:44   >>> polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171
18:47   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
18:51   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@g230143152.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:52   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
18:53   >>> ka-a-kem!~ka-a-kem@81.89.186.117
18:55 < polg> hello to All, I've installed the phh ubuntu on my AC100-10D (2011-01-16/boot.img on partition 6, Ubuntu5.tar.lzma extracted on the partition 14 formatted as ext3). Ubuntu now boot, but I've some problem...
18:58   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Remote host closed the connection]
18:58 < gildean> that's normal
18:59 < polg> ...my dmesg report: "nvrm_gpu: version magic '2.6.29-arm2-svn1996 SMP preempt mod_unload modversions ARMv7 ' should be '2.6.29-arm2-ac100-g4dd097f SMP preempt mod_unload ARMv7 '". Is it normal or there is something wrong in my installation?
19:00 < gildean> you also have the module at /
19:00 < gildean> *modules
19:01 < phh> polg: that's normal
19:01 < polg> gildean: I've also the 2011-01-16 modules. phh: OK
19:02 < ka-a-kem> hi there, did anyone try to use Huawei (or other) 3g usb modems on AC100-117 under Ubuntu? Does it work?
19:02 < phh> should work on ogra's ubuntu
19:03 < polg> ...second problem: in my /var/log/user.log I can read a lot of these messages: "pulseaudio[4942]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: "device=hw:0,0"): initialization failed"
19:03 < polg> this could be related to a very slow system?
19:03 < phh> polg: you could just have asked "why is my system slow ?" that would have been easier.
19:04 < phh> yeah sound is totally unstable, you might want to disable pulseaudio
19:04   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B5142F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:05 < polg> phh: I will try to disable it, thank you.
19:05 < arune> ogra_: what are you working with at canonical?
19:07 < gildean> using bluetooth modem works ok btw.
19:08 < gildean> at least with my old e71 it takes a lot less battery than using the phone as a wlan ap
19:13 < polg> phh: is it also possible the system slows down when I do "echo 1 > /proc/test_program/wifi3g", "sudo ifconfig ra0 down" and "sudo ifconfig ra0 up" to have the wifi working?
19:15 < gildean> i haven't seen any difference
19:17   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-owjfirzqerhldjnp [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:24 < woglinde> polg?
19:24 < woglinde> might be
19:24 < woglinde> check the load
19:24 < woglinde> and irq handler
19:28 < polg> woglinde: have you some more instructions for me to do these check?
19:28 < woglinde> use top
19:29   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
19:32 < polg> wonglinde: and for irq "/proc/interrupts" or something like it (I will look on my ac100) could be ok?
19:36 < woglinde> no the irqhandle process eats up the prcoessortime
19:41 < polg> woglinde: I start to understand something. In the past you also wrote to me to check the compat-wirless driver and you also wrote to someone else you've build it.
19:42   marvin24_DT switches the wifi led on/off via sysfs 
19:42 < woglinde> marvin ugh how how?
19:45 < marvin24_DT> echo 24 > /sys/class/gpio/exports
19:45 < marvin24_DT> echo 1/0 > /sys/class/gpio/gpio24/value
19:45 < marvin24_DT> same for hard kill
19:45   marvin24_DT killed his wifi
19:46 < woglinde> ah cool
19:46 < marvin24_DT> lets see if I can get it back ;-)
19:46 < woglinde> sure
19:46 < woglinde> its the same like test_programm with the crappy nvidia api
19:46 < marvin24_DT> yep
19:46 < woglinde> and check rfkill
19:46 < marvin24_DT> back again
19:46 < marvin24_DT> rfkill lists the correct value
19:46 < woglinde> hm to bad I didnt find out how to use exports
19:46 < woglinde> I read the kernel doku about it
19:47 < woglinde> marvin super
19:47 < marvin24_DT> I need to find out how to use rfkill_input
19:47 < marvin24_DT> btw. the rfkill gpio is 84
19:48   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
19:48 < woglinde> you mean wifi?
19:49 < woglinde> strange I could bet the gpio was 85
19:52 < marvin24_DT> eh yeah 85
19:52 < marvin24_DT> mm
19:52 < marvin24_DT> why does it work with 84?
19:52 < marvin24_DT> wait
19:52   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196
19:53 < marvin24_DT> no, I used 85
19:53 < marvin24_DT> mixed 24 and 85 to 84 ...
19:53 < woglinde> hehe
19:53 < woglinde> I wonder what the wifi_reset gpio is usefull for
19:53 < woglinde> compal didnt use it either
19:54 < marvin24_DT> so I didn't also
19:54   <   SerzZ!serzz@xob.kapsi.fi [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:54   >>> SerzZ!serzz@xob.kapsi.fi
19:54 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: btw, you were right
19:55 < marvin24_DT> looks like the pwdn gpio must set to 1
19:55 < marvin24_DT> to enable wifi
19:55 < woglinde> wooot
19:55 < marvin24_DT> I wonder why it worked before
19:55 < marvin24_DT> maybe because rfkill wasn't enabled
19:55 < marvin24_DT> I donno
19:55   >>> markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
19:56 < woglinde> so we can easli write a userspace programm now for it
19:56 < polg> bye
19:56 < marvin24_DT> there is also rfkill input
19:56   <   polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171 []
19:56 < marvin24_DT> maybe some other device entry
20:00   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
20:00   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
20:01   <   alter2|2!~kvirc@188.232.153.38 [Remote host closed the connection]
20:01   >>> alter2|2!~kvirc@188.232.153.38
20:03 < marvin24_DT> http://distro.ibiblio.org/eloop/6/setup/docs/knldoc/rfkill.txt
20:05 < jeremiah> So the linux4tegra package, which has nvflash is no longer on the NVidia developer forum
20:05 < jeremiah> Does anyone else have a copy?
20:07 < gildean> yes, check the log for the link
20:08 < scoopr> this is not the original file, but a repacked one: scoopr.fi/dump/linux4tegra_10.9.3.tar.gz
20:08 < woglinde> hm nobody updated the wiki?
20:16 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: http://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel/commit/d05736991c8149f0d9092a9af39d7b3046cce6d0
20:20   >>> turbo_!~turbo@d101134.adsl.hansenet.de
20:29 < woglinde> okay till later
20:29 < woglinde> headin home
20:29   <   woglinde!~henning@p5DDC0812.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: zapp]
20:45   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-214-094.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:45   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23FEBD.dip.t-dialin.net
20:49   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23FEBD.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20:57   <   turbo_!~turbo@d101134.adsl.hansenet.de [Quit: Bye]
20:59   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23FEBD.dip.t-dialin.net
21:12   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23FEBD.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:20   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
21:25 < marvin24_DT> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=marvell/dove-kernel/.git;a=blob_plain;f=sound/soc/codecs/rt5630.h;hb=692e42e297212e5409bcfe7c55b0a7fe9aa6ab57 look familar ...
21:25 < marvin24_DT> why is this sitting in some ubuntu kernel tree?
21:27   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:28   <   markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:48   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC69A5B.dip.t-dialin.net
22:05   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225004008.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:05 < woglinde_> re
22:06 < woglinde_> ah right
22:06 < woglinde_> the gpio_frees are missing
22:12 < woglinde_> marvin24 ping
22:26   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g229047200.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:26 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: should work
22:27 < woglinde> yes
22:27   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23FEBD.dip.t-dialin.net
22:27 < woglinde> I had the old kernel from yesterday
22:27 < woglinde> where the gpio was blocked
22:27 < woglinde> marvon is xorg with fbdev now working?
22:28 < woglinde> you said something about console freeing
22:28 < marvin24_DT> you need to echo 0 to vtcon0
22:28 < marvin24_DT> or 1?
22:28 < marvin24_DT> need to boot
22:28 < woglinde> hm?
22:29 < woglinde> before xorg fbdev starting?
22:29   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225004008.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
22:29 < marvin24_DT> sure
22:29 < marvin24_DT> in rc.local for eg
22:29 < woglinde> hm I guess I will test compat-wireless with rt2x00 overlay again
22:29 < marvin24_DT> no need
22:29 < marvin24_DT> latest compat wireless is already in the kernel
22:30 < marvin24_DT> and working fine :-)
22:30 < marvin24_DT> nvec makes some problems ...
22:30 < marvin24_DT> grrr
22:31 < woglinde> hm what you are testing?
22:32 < woglinde> hm or ports.ubuntu is slow
22:35 < marvin24_DT> ec started to respond "4"
22:35 < marvin24_DT> mmh
22:37 < woglinde> hm I will try to copy the latest stuff from helumt for rth rt2x00
22:38 < marvin24_DT> as I said, it's already in
22:38 < woglinde> where the hell is vtconn
22:38 < marvin24_DT> /sys/class/vtconsole/vtcon0
22:38 < woglinde> hm
22:39 < woglinde> so you just copied it over
22:39 < woglinde> and cherry-picked afterwards some more commits?
22:39 < marvin24_DT> should be vtcon1
22:40 < marvin24_DT> somehow
22:40 < marvin24_DT> "copy" is not easy
22:40 < woglinde> yes
22:40   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:41 < woglinde> vtconn1/bind ?
22:41 < marvin24_DT> yes
22:41 < marvin24_DT> echo 0>bind
22:41 < marvin24_DT> restart gdm
22:41 < woglinde> hm whats vtconn0 for?
22:41 < marvin24_DT> donno
22:41 < marvin24_DT> vga?
22:41 < marvin24_DT> jocking
22:46   <   ka-a-kem!~ka-a-kem@81.89.186.117 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
22:50 < woglinde> ah from experimental
22:51   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com [Remote host closed the connection]
22:58 < marvin24_DT> are we doing something else here?
22:58 < woglinde> hehe no
22:58 < woglinde> sound codec would be cool now
23:01 < marvin24_DT> -ENOCAP
23:03 < woglinde> hm?
23:12 < marvin24_DT> no capabilities
23:16   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23FEBD.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: mirco]
23:19   <   alter2|2!~kvirc@188.232.153.38 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:27   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196
23:37   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
23:37   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Client Quit]
23:46   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-214-094.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
23:53   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
23:54   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
23:57   >>> br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
23:58   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
--- Day changed Thu Mar 31 2011
00:02   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Client Quit]
00:07   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:29 < Hexxeh> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5073661/Photo%20Mar%2030%2C%2022%2026%2029.jpg
00:29 < Hexxeh> so yeah
00:29 < Hexxeh> chromeos totally works
00:34 < woglinde> with sound?
00:34 < woglinde> and suspend?
00:34 < woglinde> and 3d?
00:37 < Hexxeh> sound and suspend, nope
00:37 < Hexxeh> 3d accel i figured what was going wrong, so yup, should do in a sec
00:37 < Hexxeh> just fixing up wifi at the moment
00:41   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@g230143152.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
00:47 < woglinde> good nite
00:47   <   woglinde!~heinold@g229047200.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
00:48   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
00:49   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
00:59   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
01:19   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Remote host closed the connection]
01:25   <   br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
01:26   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
01:31   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
01:56   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-220-34.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
02:55   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
02:56 < phh> Hexxeh: on .32 ?
02:56 < Hexxeh> yup
02:56 < phh> cool
02:56 < phh> piposanta will be happy
02:56 < Hexxeh> not quite got 3d accel going yet, but i know why
02:57 < Hexxeh> forgot sysvipc
02:57 < Hexxeh> explains why nvrm_daemon was bawwing at me
02:57 < phh> ???
02:57 < phh> without sysvipc you can't even get X to start oO
02:57 < Hexxeh> apparently you can :/
02:57 < Hexxeh> i've had it disabled, i had software rendering no problem
02:58 < Hexxeh> i have /no/ idea.
02:58 < phh> or you're speaking of fbdev ?
02:58 < Hexxeh> :P
02:58 < Hexxeh> yeah
02:58   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
02:58 < phh> ah.
02:58 < phh> you can't have 3D on top of fbdev
02:58 < Hexxeh> nope
02:58 < Hexxeh> i just used it to test the chrome and wm were working
03:00 < Hexxeh> explains why nvrm_daemon didn't work though
03:02 < Hexxeh> schweet, accelerated X
03:02 < Hexxeh> :D
03:26   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
04:18   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
04:53   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
04:55   <   harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
06:50   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
06:53   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
07:09   >>> Baybal!~baybal@d75-155-181-156.bchsia.telus.net
07:28   <   flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
07:34   <   Baybal!~baybal@d75-155-181-156.bchsia.telus.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
07:41   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
08:47   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
08:49   <   lanthan__!~ze@p54B7B86E.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat]
08:49   <   harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:03   >>> grandrew!~andrew@95-27-152-100.broadband.corbina.ru
09:07   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
10:09   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:17   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC69A5B.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
10:38   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:39   >>> mirco__!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:39   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
10:41   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225073105.adsl.alicedsl.de
10:41 < woglinde> marvin24 ping
10:41 < marvin24> jo?
10:41 < woglinde> hm echo 0 > unbind dont works here
10:42 < woglinde> for vtcon
10:42 < woglinde> vtcon0 is dummy fb device btw.
10:42 < marvin24> vtcon1 is the right one
10:42 < woglinde> yes
10:42 < marvin24> vtcon0 is always created
10:42 < woglinde> look at the name
10:43 < woglinde> marvin are you do the unbinding via network?
10:43 < marvin24> yes, maybe kernel needs this
10:43   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:43   ~ mirco__ is now mirco
10:43 < marvin24> eh, yes
10:43 < marvin24> you can also do it via rc.local
10:43 < marvin24> via keyboard is, well, ....
10:43 < woglinde> hm from a shell it dont works
10:44 < marvin24> you cannot unbind something which is still in use
10:44 < marvin24> you need to do it either via network or during boot
10:44 < woglinde> *g*
10:44 < woglinde> http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/linux-support-becoming-unsupported
10:44 < woglinde> okay
10:45 < woglinde> understood
10:45 < marvin24> old news, no change
10:45 < woglinde> no the meegoo guy
10:46 < marvin24> nv said they are preparing a l4t update so he is happy
10:46 < marvin24> he doesn't know that nv cared a s*t about linux
10:46 < woglinde> true true
10:46   >>> colba!~tishkov@rifarm.net
10:46 < woglinde> wonder why he didnt show yet up here
10:55 < woglinde> *g*
10:55   <   colba!~tishkov@rifarm.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:55 < woglinde> Checking 'rate < 0' doesn't work because 'rate' is unsigned.
10:56 < woglinde> tegra patch on kernel-arm ml for tegra
10:56 < woglinde> ups
10:56 < grandrew> so it's like the whole world seems to be going android rather than vanilla-linux?
10:57 < scoopr> it's the year of linux-derivatives on non-desktop.
10:58 < woglinde> haha and rant from linus about the clock stuff in arm
11:23   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-onvumngiklxzniyc
11:26   >>> lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:40   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
11:41   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
12:05   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B514AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
12:07 < CarolusMagnus> Hi, is there a way to activate the capslock LED, when capslock is on?
12:19 < woglinde> ?
12:19 < woglinde> hm ah
12:29   >>> macau!~opera@217.118.78.126
12:43   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
12:44 < CarolusMagnus> no idea?
12:45 < mirco> CarolusMagnus: Where is that LED? I don't have LED's on my keyboard...
12:46 < woglinde> mirco all keys have an led
12:46 < CarolusMagnus> It's on the left side of the capslock key.
12:47 < CarolusMagnus> *on the right side,
12:47 < mirco> woglinde: on which version?
12:48 < CarolusMagnus> On Android it works
12:48 < CarolusMagnus> I have the german 10V
12:48 < mirco> CarolusMagnus: same here... but there's no LED!
12:52 < CarolusMagnus> You can hardly see it, if it is off, but it's there in the lower part of the key on the height of the bar of the A. It's the point where the black is a little bit different from the rest!
12:53   >>> pscl!~Adium@93.19.67.202
12:53   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225073105.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
12:53   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
12:57   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B514AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
12:59 < mirco> Thx, now I saw it!!! Didn't use Android very long, but I can't remember that I've seen it enabled...
13:05   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B514AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:06   <   macau!~opera@217.118.78.126 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:12   <   pscl!~Adium@93.19.67.202 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:13 < CarolusMagnus> So, I took two pictures of the LED: http://carolus.ca.funpic.de/ac100/
13:16 < pm215_> that's definitely an LED :-)
13:19 < mirco> what java pakckage did you install?
13:20   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:26   >>> phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151
13:28   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225073105.adsl.alicedsl.de
13:30   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
13:35   <   lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:35   >>> lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:39   <   phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151 [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:43   >>> phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
13:47   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@p5B213D6D.dip.t-dialin.net
13:49   <   dl9pf!~quassel@p5B213D6D.dip.t-dialin.net [Changing host]
13:49   >>> dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf
13:53   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
13:55   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 []
14:00   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
14:03   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B514AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
14:05   >>> frere!~frere@77.228.42.94
14:08   >>> phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
14:10   >>> pscl!~Adium@cha75-2-78-192-16-77.fbxo.proxad.net
14:14 < ogra_> phh, did you ever look at minitube ?
14:14 < phh> what is it ?
14:14 < ogra_> seems to play videos just fine here, even without accel
14:15 < ogra_> a youtube player
14:15 < phh> ah
14:15 < phh> I use weboob + mplayer
14:15 < ogra_> i see it in natty in the achrive, not sure it was in maverick
14:22 < marvin24> ogra_: do you now what happend to the marvell/dove kernel tree at kernel.ubuntu.com?
14:22 < marvin24> I'm missing this file: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=amitk/lucid.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/codecs/rt5630.c;h=e722459e35ef43a7c09f7b9bd60e69f0e1d3a1a5
14:22 < ogra_> marvin24, nope, ask ppisati in #ubuntu-arm, i think he touched it last
14:23 < marvin24> ok
14:31   <   frere!~frere@77.228.42.94 []
14:45 < steelrat> maybe a dumb question: is the omxplayer working?
14:45 < phh> omxplayer from android yes
14:46 < steelrat> I thought it's in the ubuntu directory in L4t?
14:51 < phh> there is a omxplayer there, but it doesn't work
14:53   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
14:55 < woglinde> re
15:05 < steelrat> mhhh, will it work under Ubuntu 9.10?
15:06 < phh> what will work ?
15:06   woglinde wonders why omxplayer under ubuntu find all symbols
15:06 < steelrat> sorry, I ment the omxplayer... I would be happy with an accelerated Ubuntu 9.10...
15:07 < phh> steelrat: why ? 10.10 sucks ?
15:08 < phh> ah you hope that omxplayer in L4T will work on 9.10 ?
15:08 < phh> yeah no.
15:08 < steelrat> phh: I think the memory footprint is smaller
15:08 < phh> "lol"
15:08 < phh> just desinstall what you don't need ...
15:08 < phh> well
15:09 < phh> I haven't deinstalled anything, and I can use quassel + terminal + chromium
15:09 < steelrat> phh: why the heck won't it work?
15:09 < phh> steelrat:  i'm not totally sure, but mostly because omxplayer and nvrm_daemon isn't of the same version
15:09 < phh> we need android's nvrm_daemon to have sound
15:10 < steelrat> and nvrm_daemon in l4t is of no use? why that?
15:10 < phh> different audio codec
15:11 < steelrat> so, let me understand this: tha audio chip used in ac100 is different from the tegra250 developer board?
15:12 < phh> yes
15:14 < steelrat> aha! thanks for the enlightement - I'm willing to learn... But why does NVIDIA make it so hard? Ti Omap and Freescale a more dev friendly imho..
15:14 < phh> they were used to glue with windows
15:14 < phh> but they are making a clean .37 kernel
15:15 < mirco> phh: I've added Option SWCursor to /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf but still have that mousepointer prob...
15:15 < phh> and the fact that it's a different audio codec would be the same problem everwyehre
15:15 < phh> mirco: oh really.
15:15 < phh> how weird is that.
15:15 < phh> my release uses fucking Xephyr, just because I was too lazy to try any other option of the driver.
15:16 < mirco>  grep SW /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf > Option      "SWCursor"
15:16 < phh> head /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf => generated by xorg config generator
15:18 < mirco> what can I do to get rid of that color inverted box after coming back from suspend
15:18 < mirco> ?
15:19 < phh> add -softCursor to xephyr cmdline
15:19 < steelrat> phh: why is the audio codec the great problem?
15:26 < phh> steelrat: bah it's in the nvrm_daemon binary
15:26 < phh> and only L4T's nvrm_daemon works properly.
15:27 < phh> we would have to put audio codec in L4T's nvrm_daemon
15:27 < phh> but hum
15:27 < phh> ahum.
15:27 < steelrat> I'm frustrated :(
15:39 < mirco> phh: Thx, now the cursor is as expected!!! Even after suspend! 8-)
15:41 < mirco> If someone is interested: I've built exfat-utils and fuse-exfat for armel...
15:41 < phh> wo uses exfat ? :D
15:41 < phh> who*
15:42 < mirco> now my only prob left is that I can't mount USB or SD from Locations it only works with sudo in the terminal...
15:42 < mirco> I use it from time to time, but only if I get data on a stick from someone else...
15:43 < mirco> I get that famous "not authorized" error Msg from nautilus! But am a member of the group "fuse"
15:45 < woglinde> who uses nautilus?
15:45 < woglinde> no wonder you dont have no mem
15:46 < phh> lol
15:48 < mirco> I just won't to get rid of that message everytime I connect a USB / SD
15:51 < mirco> won't <> want.... ;-)
15:52 < ogra_> use my image then :)
15:52 < ogra_> automounting works fine here
15:52 < mirco> ogra_: OK but what about audio, suspend dimming and so on?
15:53 < mirco> I'm willing to test your's t0o, especially because it's a more straight ubuntu...
15:53 < phh> (automounting works fine withouot xephyr)
15:54 < mirco> phh: what xephyr to do with automounting?
15:54 < ogra_> mirco, well, my image is featureless
15:54 < phh> mirco: consolekit stuff
15:54 < mirco> has xephyr... sorry!
15:54 < ogra_> but all default ubuntu features work
15:55 < mirco> ogra_: yeah, I'm fine with setting up my own sys, but suspend and sound should work...
15:59 < ogra_> sond doesnt work anywhere
16:00 < ogra_> well, it does with USB soundcard or bluetooth
16:00 < ogra_> but not natively
16:03 < mirco> and phh's image uses nv_anything daemon or what?
16:04 < ogra_> yes
16:05 < mirco> and your image's suspend is stable?
16:07 < ogra_> no
16:07 < ogra_> as i said, no features
16:08 < ogra_> my image doesnt have nvrm_daemon so doesnt have any of the features or problems induced by that
16:16   >>> sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:23   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
16:30   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196
16:34   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Remote host closed the connection]
16:35   <   pscl!~Adium@cha75-2-78-192-16-77.fbxo.proxad.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:35   >>> pscl!~Adium@cha75-2-78-192-16-77.fbxo.proxad.net
16:40   >>> boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100
16:50   <   sonny1!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
16:50   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
17:19   >>> hyperlemming!~Luke_Skyw@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no
17:19   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-onvumngiklxzniyc [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
17:22   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
17:25   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
17:26   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-lpurmoetdtbtikab
17:40   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
17:42   <   boringname!5846dd64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.70.221.100 [Ping timeout: 253 seconds]
17:46   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
17:50   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
17:51   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
17:57   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
18:05   >>> sh4rm4_!~user@adsl-89-217-135-172.adslplus.ch
18:06 < sh4rm4_> any news from the arm laptop front ?
18:06 < sh4rm4_> i.e. are there new products
18:08 < sh4rm4_> i guess we have to wait until windows (R) 8 (TM) ARM version is available, until manufacturers are allowed to sell ARM computers
18:08   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
18:08   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
18:08 < sh4rm4_> so everybody has to pay his fucking windows license
18:13   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
18:15 < ac100peter> sh4rm4_:  this one of the reasons, getting an AC100 - stay clean and MS-free ;)
18:16 < sh4rm4_> i,ll never ever spend a single cent on m$ again
18:16 < sh4rm4_> so that is a prerequisite
18:16 < sh4rm4_> but i rather see a 14 inch laptop with arm cpu, because it needs no fan
18:17 < sh4rm4_> non-glare display with at least 1440x900 pixels
18:18 < sh4rm4_> a 10 inch screen is just too small for any serious work
18:19 < sh4rm4_> i watched a couple of interesting products when the tablet boom started
18:19 < sh4rm4_> but they all disappeared from the scene
18:19 < sh4rm4_> like the lenovo thing
18:19 < sh4rm4_> or a couple of chinese arm powered laptops
18:20 < sh4rm4_> they are not for sale anywhere
18:20 < sh4rm4_> im pretty sure m$ prevented those from hitting the market
18:23   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:25   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
18:28 < ac100peter> sh4rm4_:  true, 14" non glare, maybe with quadcore Arm would be really nice
18:29   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
18:29 < sh4rm4_> yeah, but dual core would be sufficient as well
18:29 < ogra_> wont take long, the first cortex-a15 chips should come out by end of the year
18:30 < sh4rm4_> it will take an additional year until finished products will hit the market
18:30 < ogra_> though if any manufacturer is intrested in building netbooks at all with them ...
18:30   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225073105.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:32   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051049164.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:32 < sh4rm4_> that here would be nice http://www.netbooknews.de/31658/video-nufront-newton-14-ultra-thin-notebook-mit-2-ghz-dual-core-arm-cpu-ubuntu-linux-im-hands-on/
18:35   >>> pscl1!~Adium@cha75-2-78-192-16-77.fbxo.proxad.net
18:35   <   pscl!~Adium@cha75-2-78-192-16-77.fbxo.proxad.net [Read error: No route to host]
18:50   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:50   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196
18:53   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225146152.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:06   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:06   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
19:09   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196 []
19:10   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
19:11   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-lpurmoetdtbtikab [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:11   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196
19:14   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.177.196 []
19:17   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
19:20   >>> mirco_ac!~mirco@p5B23F941.dip.t-dialin.net
19:29   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
19:31   <   hyperlemming!~Luke_Skyw@cm-84.209.123.165.getinternet.no [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:37   <   pscl1!~Adium@cha75-2-78-192-16-77.fbxo.proxad.net [Quit: Leaving.]
19:45   <   lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Ex-Chat]
19:49   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
19:50   >>> ka-a-kem!~ka-a-kem@81.89.186.117
19:56   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
20:03   >>> incred_!~incred@188.232.146.70
20:03   >>> flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81
20:06   <   Incred!~incred@188.232.166.79 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
20:14   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
20:21   marvin24_DT broke everything :-(
20:23 < muromec> google site:http://gsdview.appspot.com/chromeos-prebuilt/
20:23 < marvin24_DT> somehow the power driver drives the nvec crasy
20:24 < marvin24_DT> muromec: internal error?
20:24 < muromec> marvin24, mope
20:24 < muromec> some chromeos-related packages
20:24   muromec hoped steal there drivers
20:25 < marvin24_DT> I cannot getl the site
20:25 < Hexxeh> that's just their binhost
20:25 < Hexxeh> there's nothing nvidia on there
20:26 < Hexxeh> some tegra2 ebuilds in here, though http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=board-overlays.git;a=tree;f=overlay-tegra2;h=652eef2a21eb905d87855911aad3a25e8ffa6170;hb=HEAD
20:26 < Hexxeh> but their source is on a private git server
20:26 < marvin24_DT> but drivers should be inside the binary images
20:26 < Hexxeh> which are hosted privately :P
20:27 < marvin24_DT> ah, that's the reason the server is unavailable
20:27 < Hexxeh> https://sandbox.google.com/storage/chromeos-archive/arm-tegra2-bin/0.12.346.0-r0d5e4ae0-b4112
20:27 < Hexxeh> like that
20:27   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.177.196
20:29 < muromec> Hexxeh, where chromium build flags are set?
20:29 < Hexxeh> what build flags?
20:29 < Hexxeh> everything is set in ebuilds pretty much
20:29 < Hexxeh> e
20:29 < Hexxeh> either that or your make.conf
20:31 < muromec> Hexxeh, i`m about browser itself
20:31 < Hexxeh> oh, cros version or linux version?
20:32 < Hexxeh> i only know about the cros stuff sorry
20:32   >>> radomil!bcaf29ea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.175.41.234
20:33 < radomil> Hello.
20:33 < Mifun> o/
20:33 < radomil> Sorrz to bother zou wit this, but does anzone of zou have a copz of stock.fastboot.bin for 32 gb of AC100?
20:34 < radomil> Nvidia no longer provides the images of l4t
20:34 < radomil> And sorry for the switched keys.
20:35 < muromec> radomil, github.com/muromec/putusb
20:35 < muromec> radomil, there is fastboot
20:35 < muromec> iirc, in bin
20:35 < radomil> Thank you very much!
20:38   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225146152.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20:39 < radomil> Perfect. And just few questiones, does anyone know, where to find the whole l4t package and why did nvidia put the package off their site?
20:40 < Hexxeh> apparently because they're preparing for a new release
20:40 < Hexxeh> personally i think that's bs
20:40   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225004103.adsl.alicedsl.de
20:42   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
20:44 < radomil> Thank you, is there any mirror with the latest l4t images? I could not google it no matter how hard i tried.
20:46   <   mirco_ac!~mirco@p5B23F941.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20:46   >>> mirco_ac!~mirco@p5B23F941.dip.t-dialin.net
20:55   <   radomil!bcaf29ea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.175.41.234 [Quit: Page closed]
21:06   >>> ka-a-kem1!~ka-a-kem@81.89.186.117
21:09   <   ka-a-kem!~ka-a-kem@81.89.186.117 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:16   <   ka-a-kem1!~ka-a-kem@81.89.186.117 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:20   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
21:24   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
21:28   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
21:31   >>> makc__!~makc@83.149.45.147
21:31   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225165162.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:32   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7F520.dip.t-dialin.net
21:32   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.177.196 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:33   ~ makc__ is now bmw
21:33   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7F520.dip.t-dialin.net [Max SendQ exceeded]
21:34   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225004103.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
21:34   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7F520.dip.t-dialin.net
21:41   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:52   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Remote host closed the connection]
21:52   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-193-092.pools.arcor-ip.net
21:58   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
21:59   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6B34C.dip.t-dialin.net
21:59   >>> George_!5b4d7d94@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.125.148
22:18   <   George_!5b4d7d94@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.125.148 [Quit: Page closed]
22:19   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051049164.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
22:24 < mirco_ac> phh: I have that box under my cursor again! This is the cmdline: DISPLAY=:1 Xephyr -fullscreen -softCursor &
22:25   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
22:26   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051049164.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:32   >>> br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
22:32   <   dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf [Read error: Operation timed out]
22:36   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.45.147 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
22:55   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.184.122
22:59   <   mirco_ac!~mirco@p5B23F941.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:07   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225165162.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:07   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-193-092.pools.arcor-ip.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:08   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052229179.adsl.alicedsl.de
23:09   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
23:09   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
23:11   <   ZoX_!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:17   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-223-012.pools.arcor-ip.net
23:25   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-223-012.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
23:32   >>> ZoX_!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34
23:32   <   sh4rm4_!~user@adsl-89-217-135-172.adslplus.ch [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:38   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
23:38 < muromec> Hexxeh,
23:38 < Hexxeh> yeah?
23:39 < muromec> have you compiled chrome for chromeos?
23:39 < Hexxeh> yeah
23:39 < muromec> and its working?
23:39 < Hexxeh> not full acceleration
23:39 < Hexxeh> it's not as slow as fbdev
23:39 < Hexxeh> but it's not great
23:40 < muromec> please, upload binary package somewhere
23:40 < Hexxeh> i can upload the portage binary package
23:40 < Hexxeh> it has deps though
23:40 < Hexxeh> libcros amongst others.
23:40 < lenios> isn't it chromium?
23:40 < muromec> libcros?
23:40 < Hexxeh> it won't even start without libcros
23:40 < Hexxeh> umm
23:40 < muromec> wtf?
23:40 < Hexxeh> yeah, the cros version looks similar but it's quite heavily modified.
23:41 < Hexxeh> lenios: yeah it is
23:42 < muromec> i just tried to run chrome binary package from "arm-generic"
23:42 < muromec> but its built with neon
23:42 < muromec> and all links to tegra binary packages are 404
23:42 < Hexxeh> yeah they don't offer tegra binaries
23:43   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
23:43 < Hexxeh> easiest way is to make a cros chroot
23:43 < muromec> havent seen any stange dependencies
23:43 < muromec> *strange
23:43 < Hexxeh> use --board=tegra2 or --board=tegra2_dev-board
23:44 < muromec> well, i just need working browser in debian
23:44   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m77-218-177-70.cust.tele2.se
23:45 < Hexxeh> uploading now
23:45 < Hexxeh> http://oxygen.hexxeh.net/chromeos-chrome-12.0.720.0_rc-r1.tbz2
23:45 < Hexxeh> give it like 30 seconds
23:45 < Hexxeh> it's like 400mb
23:45 < Hexxeh> which um
23:45 < muromec> eah, lot of debug
23:45 < Hexxeh> sounds massive and doesn't sound right
23:45 < Hexxeh> probably yeah
23:45 < muromec> sure it is
23:45 < Hexxeh> i forgot i did a debug build
23:46 < Hexxeh> you'll need libcros though
23:46 < Hexxeh> i'll upload that for you too.
23:46   >>> mirco_ac!~mirco@p5B23F941.dip.t-dialin.net
23:47 < Hexxeh> actually there are quite a few deps for it
23:47 < Hexxeh> http://oxygen.hexxeh.net/libcros-0.0.1-r215.tbz2
23:47 < Hexxeh> if you need anymore you'll be best off just building in cros chroot
23:48 < muromec> thanks i`l try
23:49   >>> incred__!~incred@188.232.135.75
23:49   <   incred_!~incred@188.232.146.70 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
--- Day changed Fri Apr 01 2011
00:05   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f051049164.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
00:07   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
00:10   <   mirco_ac!~mirco@p5B23F941.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:15 < muromec> damn
00:16   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Quit: Leaving]
00:16 < woglinde> hm?
00:25   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052229179.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
00:27   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
00:29   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
00:56   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-220-34.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:56   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-80.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
01:07   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
01:12   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.184.122 [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:27   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
01:30   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Quit: Leaving]
01:31   >>> H2L29!~h2l29@2a01:e34:eef5:d3b0:226:18ff:fe1b:8581
01:32   <   H2L29!~h2l29@2a01:e34:eef5:d3b0:226:18ff:fe1b:8581 []
01:37   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host115-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
01:46   <   br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
02:37   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m77-218-177-70.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
02:55   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m83-185-78-176.cust.tele2.se
03:13   ~ incred__ is now Incred
03:52   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
05:40   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
05:44   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
06:34   <   flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
07:31   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 []
07:35   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
07:36   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
08:09   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
08:17   <   scoopr!scoopr@et.vaan.osaa.fi [Quit: leaving]
08:46   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
09:08   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
09:12   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:23   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
09:30   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B34C.dip.t-dialin.net
09:33   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6B34C.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
09:34   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m83-185-78-176.cust.tele2.se []
09:39   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B34C.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:50   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa []
09:58   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
10:09   >>> scoopr!scoopr@scoopr.fi
10:15   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225005076.adsl.alicedsl.de
10:30   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:35   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225006018.adsl.alicedsl.de
10:37   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225005076.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
10:39   ~ woglinde_ is now woglinde
10:47   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-ercqjsyvlrlklbak
10:57   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:01   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7F520.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat]
11:02   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
11:03   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
11:03   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Excess Flood]
11:03   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
11:07   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
11:08   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:08   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
11:27   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
11:27   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
11:32   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
11:34   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
12:17   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.184.122
12:28   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
12:37   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
12:44   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
13:10   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
13:12   >>> drellok!~misha@217.77.222.136
13:13 < mirco> when trying to "apt-get -b source chromium-browser" my AC reproducably freece's!!! How can I setup a crosscompilation environment?!?
13:15 < ogra_> i dont think you can cross build the chromium package easily ... but google about xdeb, its a cross build tool for debian packages
13:15   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
13:29 < mirco> ogra_: prob is that the original build from the repo's give's me an "invalid instruction" or "ungültiger maschinenbefehl" error!
13:29 < mirco> I would use the one from the repo...
13:30 < ogra_> did you file a bug ?
13:30 < mirco> or I start pinning and install the one from 11.04...
13:30 < mirco> no not yet
13:30 < ogra_> i can poke the maintainer, but he will need a bug
13:30   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
13:30 < ogra_> might be some neon instruction that slipped through
13:31 < mirco> ogra_: Thx, I'll do so after my lunchbreak! CU later
13:31 < ogra_> ciao
13:43   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
14:01   >>> markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
14:01   <   markit_!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at []
14:34   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-ercqjsyvlrlklbak [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:41   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.184.122 [Remote host closed the connection]
14:44   <   CryptoKi1!marco@dyn2-212-50-134-127.psoas.suomi.net [Remote host closed the connection]
14:46   >>> CryptoKid!marco@dyn2-212-50-134-127.psoas.suomi.net
14:50   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-aohvmenohmylrwtu
14:55   >>> IZ3GME!~marco@pcfilippi.dei.unipd.it
15:01   >>> soulrebel!~soulrebel@frnk-5f744662.pool.mediaWays.net
15:09   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 ["Leaving"]
15:15   <   soulrebel!~soulrebel@frnk-5f744662.pool.mediaWays.net [Quit: Leaving]
15:20   <   IZ3GME!~marco@pcfilippi.dei.unipd.it [Remote host closed the connection]
15:28   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
15:34   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
15:50   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
15:52   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-aohvmenohmylrwtu [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:59 < drellok> hello, is anyone aware of approximate ETA of new linux4tegra?
16:01 < woglinde> no
16:06   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
16:08   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-xmxscddgkzuqmzug
16:14   >>> bigla!~bigla@pc155.htu.tu-graz.ac.at
16:14 < bigla> hi folks --- i am sorry to bother you again...
16:15 < bigla> sound is not working --- i am using phhs image, modules and overlay
16:15 < ogra_> sound doesnt work
16:15 < bigla> it did work already with phhs release
16:15 < ogra_> (in any of the images)
16:15 < bigla> last time i installed it
16:15 < ogra_> not stable
16:15 < bigla> it was stable
16:16 < bigla> before i used overlay
16:16 < ogra_> well, ask phh then, i can only give the comment he gives here all the time
16:16 < bigla> :(  ... hm... okay...
16:16 < ogra_> "before you used overlay" what does that mean ?
16:17 < bigla> i installed it once without using the overlay.tar.gz
16:17 < ogra_> did you put the l4t stuff on top of phhs image *additionally* ?
16:17 < ogra_> ah
16:17 < bigla> the l4t stuff is the modules.tar.gz
16:17 < ogra_> ??
16:17 < ogra_> surely not
16:17 < bigla> where can i get the l4t stuff?
16:17 < ogra_> the modules are surely built by phh
16:18 < bigla> or  how can i check if i have l4t stuff?
16:19 < gildean> there should be a path /L4T on your ac100
16:19 < gildean> if you have the overlay
16:20 < bigla> there is a l4t path  with several subfolders
16:20 < bigla> bin boot home blabla
16:20 < gildean> yeah, so it's there
16:20 < gildean> the overlay.tar.gz is the overlay for the mplayer iirc
16:21 < bigla> and alsamixer tells me there is a tegra soundcard - but without controls
16:21 < gildean> yeah, sound just doesn't work at this point
16:21 < gildean> you might get some squeals out of it, but mostly it just doesn't work
16:21 < bigla> but accelerated video works :/
16:21 < bigla> okay
16:22 < bigla> i see
16:22 < lenios_> flash works too
16:22 < gildean> and pulseaudio also can hang and make the os unbearably slow
16:22 < gildean> yeah, flash works for some things
16:22 < gildean> but i think for example jwplayer doesn't work
16:23 < lenios_> i don't know, i don't use it
16:23 < gildean> i use it in subsonic, it's the builtin player in it
16:25 < gildean> but then again, getting subsonic to load on the ac100 is not current, as the sound doesn't work
16:25 < gildean> but later it would be nice to be able to stream music and videos from a home server through programs like subsonic
16:26 < bigla> okay... and ogra_ what about your kernel... is there a way to activate suspend and dim the screen?
16:26 < ogra_> no
16:27 < bigla> and there is another kernel... marvin24s kernel.... what about it?
16:27 < marvin24> even worse
16:28 < woglinde> hi marvin
16:29 < bigla> okay.. and you all think ac100 is dead... no chance of getting a linux with sound and hw accell...
16:29 < steelrat> hi! will Natty give us better support for our toy? *wondering*
16:29 < woglinde> ?
16:29 < marvin24> it's not dead
16:29 < marvin24> just depends on developer interests
16:30 < woglinde> bigla mine ac100 isnt dead
16:30 < woglinde> but I dont need sound this much
16:30 < ogra_> same here
16:30 < ogra_> though i have sound :)
16:31 < marvin24> hw support strongly depends on the kernel, so distributions don't matter
16:32 < bigla> okay now... i'll throw out audio
16:32 < bigla> how can i do it?
16:34 < gildean> just disable pulseaudio
16:34 < bigla> i just don't want it to slow down my system
16:34 < gildean> either just move the file to .old or remove all together with apt
16:35 < bigla> any terminal code?
16:35 < bigla> which file?
16:35 < gildean> iirc /usr/bin/pulseaudio
16:36 < gildean> as in mv /usr/bin/pulseaudio /usr/bin/pulseaudio.old
16:36 < ogra_> dont do that, it will be reverted on updates, use dpkg-divert instead
16:37 < bigla> filename pulseaudio is not absolute
16:37 < gildean> ok, listen to ogra, he knows best
16:37 < bigla> k
16:38 < ogra_> man dpkg-divert ... it has example lines
16:39 < bigla> so dpkg-divert --remove pulseaudio
16:44   <   bigla!~bigla@pc155.htu.tu-graz.ac.at []
16:45   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225005059.adsl.alicedsl.de
16:46   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225006018.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:49   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
16:55   >>> phh_!~quassel@137.194.15.151
16:55   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:55   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052066100.adsl.alicedsl.de
16:56   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
16:57   <   drellok!~misha@217.77.222.136 [Quit: Leaving]
16:57   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225005059.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
17:03   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052066100.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:04   >>> morph_!~morph@91.220.65.3
17:05   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052239050.adsl.alicedsl.de
17:15   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052239050.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:17   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225147136.adsl.alicedsl.de
17:19   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
17:24   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
17:28   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:28   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
17:31 < scoopr> ngh
17:31 < scoopr> scoopr@ac100:~$ uptime 17:31:31 up 2 days, 20:46,  2 users,  load average: 3.55, 2.18, 1.99
17:32 < scoopr> it's been idling for the past day or so
17:33   <   vvid_work!~vi_vid@gate.gaijin.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
17:35   <   lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79 [Read error: No route to host]
17:40   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
17:48   <   steelrat!~steelrat@pd95cb856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
17:49   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
17:53   >>> vvid_work!~vi_vid@gate.gaijin.ru
17:54   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-80.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
17:54   >>> lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79
17:55   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
17:57   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-xmxscddgkzuqmzug [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:02   ~ phh_ is now phh
18:03 < phh> scoopr: you mean idling almost eats no poower ?
18:04 < woglinde> hoi phh
18:04 < woglinde> scoopr wifi?
18:04   >>> flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81
18:04 < phh> scoopr: if so, might I assume that you're not running default ubuntu configuration ? :D
18:12   <   grandrew!~andrew@95-27-152-100.broadband.corbina.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
18:17 < scoopr> woglinde, there is wifi yes
18:17 < scoopr> phh, it's pretty standard ubuntu, your image
18:17 < scoopr> I was just worried that "idle" means loadavg of 3
18:18 < scoopr> now it hovers on little over 1
18:33   <   morph_!~morph@91.220.65.3 [Quit: Leaving]
18:37   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
18:38 < woglinde> scoopr try disable wifi
18:40 < scoopr> I've been lately using it by ssh mostly :P
18:42   >>> shamoff!~shamoff@91.103.153.214
18:42   <   shamoff!~shamoff@91.103.153.214 []
18:49 < phh> scoopr: why do you worry about loadavg ?
18:50   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
18:51   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f052125176.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:59   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
19:02   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
19:08   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
19:14   >>> lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:17   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
19:23   >>> tilmann!~t@f052193203.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:23   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:25   >>> tilmann1!~t@g225127071.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:26   >>> minimec!~minimec@77-56-254-17.dclient.hispeed.ch
19:27   <   tilmann!~t@f052193203.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:30   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
19:33 < minimec> Hi. I would like to 'root' my tiny new ac100-111 (Swiss keyboard). Now I have the problem, that (using Linux-SDK) the 'sdb' application is no longer included in the basic SDK and a file tells me to run some 'AVD Manager'. I have no idea what that is and ho w to proceed. running ubuntu 10.04 on Desktop.
19:33 < minimec> sorry --> adb
19:34   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
19:35 < woglinde> minimec download part 8 which is /system
19:35 < woglinde> loopmount it
19:35 < woglinde> put the su binary there yourself
19:35 < woglinde> upload the part8
19:37 < minimec> woglinde: THX for your answer. Would I do that with minicom, or how would I be able to download the /system partition?
19:38 < woglinde> no with nvflash
19:39 < minimec> woglinde: Ok. Yet again, there is thiw little problem, that nvidia closed down the download site, because they prepare a new release... http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/l4t-removed-downloads-page
19:39 < minimec> woglinde: Oups. It might be up again...
19:40 < woglinde> I know
19:41 < minimec> woglinde: Would this release change anything reagarding installation procedure and using the 'old' boot image?
19:45   <   lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:45 < woglinde> ?
19:47 < minimec> woglinde: What can we expect from the new Tegra4Linux release and would it be compatible with the existing 'alternate' boot images, like that ubuntu 10.10 image based on the android kernel.
19:48 < woglinde> ?
19:48 < woglinde> I am not nvidia
19:48 < woglinde> so who can I tell
19:48 < woglinde> just wait and have paitence
19:52 < minimec> Well I might have to. ;) Do you know how some 'key'-members of this channel use the ac100. Do they use alternate OS on SD card or internal. Are there some people still using Android 2.2 on it?
19:54   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
19:55 < minimec> woglinde: Oh I think I got it. I found that AVD Manager tool... Maybe I don't have to wait...
19:59 < woglinde> key-members?
19:59 < woglinde> got to xda
19:59 < woglinde> donate them
20:07   >>> kottt!~ubuntu@95.140.95.194
20:13   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225147136.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
20:29   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
20:50   >>> guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net
20:51   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51474.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
20:55   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
20:55   <   kottt!~ubuntu@95.140.95.194 []
20:56 < gildean> minimec: you can fing a download-link for the l4t image with nvflash and such, search this weeks log
20:57 < gildean> download was provided by scoopr
20:58 < scoopr> http://scoopr.fi/dump/linux4tegra_10.9.3.tar.gz  | that's not the original, but a repack
20:58   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-117-149.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:59 < minimec> gildean: THX for your answer. I was able to install 'adb', but now I struggle with the rageagainstthecage exploit. I cannot gain root access '#' with adb after running the exploit. i get the debugging mode activated o the ac100 but I dont have the '#' for root in adb shell.
21:00 < dario> minimec: try again
21:00 < dario> it's normal that it takes like 3-4 tries
21:01 < minimec> scoopr: gildean: I will have a look at the link after having had success with 'rooting'.
21:01 < gildean> hmm, if you're using android 2.2, the normal rage-rooting might not work
21:01 < minimec> dario: I will. I don't run it as root, as I had no problems to access the ac100 as normal user. I guess this is ok?
21:02 < gildean> there is another workaround tho'
21:02 < minimec> gildean: Oups. I have already upgraded the system.
21:02 < gildean> but the easiest way to root 2.2 is to use superoneclick
21:02 < gildean> you don't have to do much anything with it
21:04 < minimec> gildean: ok. So using Ubuntu with mono installed i should be able to run SuperOneClick?
21:05 < gildean> no idea
21:06 < minimec> gildean: There is a linux tutorial...
21:06 < gildean> i did it with my elitebook, it has win7 in it and at least with it rooting was easy
21:09   >>> muromec!~muromec@188.115.136.53
21:09 < muromec> what Tag_ABI_VFP_args: VFP registers is for?
21:11   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
21:15   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51474.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
21:16 < marvin24_DT> muromec: floating point?
21:17   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
21:18   >>> jule!~jule@130.75.240.58
21:19 < muromec> marvin24_DT, sure, vfp is something about floating point!
21:19 < marvin24_DT> found out that fastboot just boots the image 10 seconds after flashing
21:19 < marvin24_DT> where did you find it?
21:20 < jule> Hi. I just tried some instructions on http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ but failed to download the fastboot.bin - any other places I could download it?
21:21   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
21:22 < muromec> marvin24_DT, what?
21:22 < marvin24_DT> I mean where did you find this string "Tag_ABI_VFP_args"
21:24 < muromec> in readelf output on my debian system
21:24 < marvin24_DT> ah, eabi
21:24 < marvin24_DT> http://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/as/ARM-Directives.html
21:25 < gildean> jule: ?? do you mean nvflash?
21:26 < gildean> isn't fastboot.bin the filename for the vanilla bootloader
21:27 < jule> gildean: I got nvflash from some tegra froyo package they still have on the nvidia site. But it seems they removed the tegra4linux download there.
21:28 < jule> see http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/thread/4535322/L4T+removed+from+Downloads+page
21:28 < gildean> yes, i know that
21:29 < gildean> we just dicussed that, check the link for logs in the topic
21:29 < gildean> or rather, we've been discussing about that a few times this week
21:29 < jule> oh. yes just did sorry to bother you guys.
21:29 < gildean> np
21:30 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/logs/
21:30 >>> Topic set by phh ~quassel@137.194.15.151 [Tue Mar 29 19:31:41 2011]
21:36 < muromec> jule, good reason to use putusb
21:37 < gildean> muromec: it works ok?
21:38 < gildean> do you have some sort of binary of it?
21:39 < gildean> found it
21:47 < muromec> ggrandou, i tested it on my hw, worked ok
21:54 < muromec> ah, vfp_args is about incompatible abi
21:55   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f052125176.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
22:06   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51474.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
22:09   <   flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
22:27   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.184.122
22:44   <   jule!~jule@130.75.240.58 [Remote host closed the connection]
23:01   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-80.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
23:05   <   ZoX_!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34 [Quit: Page closed]
23:09   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.184.122 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
23:12   >>> SenkZ!~SenkZ@82.95.129.59
23:12 < SenkZ> Hello everyone
23:13 < SenkZ> I have just ordered a toshiba ac100-10v
23:13 < SenkZ> what is the best way to run ubuntu on this?
23:25   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-117-149.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
23:26   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC69CD3.dip.t-dialin.net
23:27 < Unseen2> Step 1: Do not upgrade to Android 2.2
23:27 < Unseen2> Step 2: Follow one of the many howtos for installing Ubuntu
23:28 < SenkZ> ive read some
23:28 < SenkZ> most saying that backlight cannot be adjusted/no video playback/no sound drivers/battery life shorter
23:29 < SenkZ> what is the current state?
23:29 < SenkZ> i have read something about sound being enabled and light
23:29 < SenkZ> tough playing hd video would be nice
23:30 < SenkZ> also, running ubuntu from sdhc card makes the system slower, is it possible to install ubuntu on the harddisk and does it improve performance?
23:30 < Unseen2> There is at least one rootfs (phh's) that has a command-line tool for adjusting the backlight and sound seems to be working in that too. I have no idea about the current state of video playback and still haven't done any battey life tests
23:30 < Unseen2> There is no hard disk
23:30 < SenkZ> well th sd
23:30 < SenkZ> the 8gb
23:31 < Unseen2> It may or may not be faster than an SD card - that depends on the SD card
23:31 < SenkZ> so a fast sd card is recommanded?
23:31 < SenkZ> what would you advice?
23:31   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
23:32 < Unseen2> I can't recommend any specific cards, I just installed everything on the internal eMMC without any benchmarks
23:32 < SenkZ> btw, the original android market is not aviable for the ac100 due lack of 3g, is it possible to install a pirated app store if i would upgrade to andoird 2.2?
23:33 < Unseen2> Possibly, ask someone who knows more about Android internals that I do =)
23:34   <   muromec!~muromec@188.115.136.53 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:34 < SenkZ> are you developing a better suited OS for the ac100?
23:34 < Unseen2> I'm not developing anything for the AC100, I'm just a user
23:35 < SenkZ> can you put the ac100 in standby mode?
23:35 < SenkZ> and what is battery life for you?
23:35 < gildean> you can install android market for 2.2
23:35 < gildean> it just needs a bit of hacking
23:36 < gildean> instructions are on the wiki, check the /topic for the link
23:36 < Unseen2> Standby yes (with phh's rootfs) with some issues, battery life unknown for me. IIRC someone mentioned 7 days on standby in this channel
23:37 < SenkZ> gildean would you recomment android 2.2 with market or ubuntu?
23:37 < gildean> ubuntu
23:37   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.46.126
23:37 < SenkZ> ubuntu does needs more tinkering i believe?
23:37 < gildean> but if you want video, sound and flash, then android
23:37 < SenkZ> is it possible to run apache on the ubuntu version?
23:37 < gildean> why not?
23:38 < SenkZ> i mean
23:38 < SenkZ> is it handy
23:38 < gildean> don't know if there is a version for it tho
23:38 < gildean> why would you want to run apache on a netbook?
23:38 < SenkZ> could you compile java on the ubuntu version?
23:38 < SenkZ> so i can program on-the-fly
23:39 < gildean> there seems to be apache for armel
23:40 < SenkZ> armel = an OS?
23:41 < gildean> no, as in arm little endian
23:41 < SenkZ> k
23:41 < SenkZ> this video/sound/battery/flash problem
23:41 < SenkZ> is it being worked on for ubuntu?
23:42 < gildean> batterylife is ok, and flash works on some level
23:42 < SenkZ> and what are the chances of these problems being patched?
23:42 < gildean> new kernels are being developed
23:42 < SenkZ> that would improve overal performance?
23:42 < gildean> check this link for more info: http://ac100.tunk.org
23:42 < SenkZ> and when kernels are ready, i can just download the regular ubuntu netbook image or from you  site?
23:43 < SenkZ> i need phh images
23:43 < SenkZ> for optimized ac100 experience?
23:44 < gildean> check that link, under instructions there is a how-to for it
23:44   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@e176224228.adsl.alicedsl.de
23:44 < SenkZ> i mean
23:44 < gildean> atm. you get more features, suspend being the most relevant
23:44 < SenkZ> u can download ubuntu here
23:44 < SenkZ> http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
23:44 < SenkZ> but its better fo ac100 when using phh?
23:45 < Unseen2> The standard Ubuntu Netbook edition is for x86 systems
23:45 < SenkZ> whats difference between phh and ogra versions?
23:46 < gildean> ogras version is more stable, but lacks features
23:46 < SenkZ> so you recommand phh?
23:47 < SenkZ> can you recommand a sdhc card? beste price/value
23:47 < gildean> for me, suspend is a must have, so yes
23:48 < SenkZ> suspend = hibernate?+
23:48 < gildean> yes
23:49 < SenkZ> gildean ur server does not have time for  me right now :-(
23:49 < SenkZ> http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/
23:49 < gildean> wrong path
23:50 < gildean> chack the link i gave you earlier
23:50 < SenkZ> i have that link
23:50 < SenkZ> but i wanted to check the parent
23:50 < SenkZ> on https://launchpad.net/ac100
23:50 < SenkZ> it says you guys are working on trunk
23:50 < gildean> well he has no time right now
23:51 < SenkZ> what is this? How far are you guys? what will be the modules after trunk?
23:52 < SenkZ> and how can i subscribe to mailinglist>
23:54   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
23:56   >>> skaet!~kate.stew@99-191-111-134.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net
23:59   <   tilmann1!~t@g225127071.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
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00:04 < SenkZ> what is this? How far are you guys? what will be the modules after trunk?
00:04 < SenkZ> <SenkZ> and how can i subscribe to mailinglist>
00:07   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-130-227-104.cust.tele2.se
00:15   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7B92A.dip.t-dialin.net
00:24   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
00:25   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
00:29   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.46.126 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
00:53   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
00:57   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-80.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
01:03   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@e176224228.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
01:21   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51474.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
01:31   *.net <-\-> *.split: [stenzel_]
01:34   >>> stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-93-94.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr
01:44   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-217-184.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
01:48   >>> [stenzel_]
01:53 < SenkZ> on https://launchpad.net/ac100
01:53 < SenkZ>  it says you guys are working on trunk
01:53 < SenkZ> , what is this? How far are you guys? what will be the modules after trunk?
02:04   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
02:05   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Quit: Leaving]
02:12 < xranby_ac> SenkZ: i think most kernel developement happens here http://gitorious.org/ac100
02:13 < xranby_ac> unfortunally i do not know the answers to you questions
02:17   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-130-227-104.cust.tele2.se []
02:32   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
02:57   <   SenkZ!~SenkZ@82.95.129.59 [Quit: Ik ga weg]
03:29   >>> alter2|2!~kvirc@188.232.132.106
03:58   >>> markit_!~Markus_Ki@193.238.157.62
04:07   <   markit_!~Markus_Ki@193.238.157.62 []
04:25   <   stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-93-94.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
04:50   >>> gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC69CD3.dip.t-dialin.net
04:54   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC69CD3.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 261 seconds]
05:35   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
05:35 < nicofs> someone still awake?
06:21 < phh> yeah
06:22 < phh> not you ? :p
08:42   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
08:44   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-121-052.pools.arcor-ip.net
09:03   >>> tilmann!~t@g225127071.adsl.alicedsl.de
09:05   >>> lanthan_!~ze@p54B7C1A6.dip.t-dialin.net
09:08   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7B92A.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
09:19   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-121-052.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
09:25   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-125-067.pools.arcor-ip.net
09:42   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
09:48   >>> grandrew!~andrew@95-24-73-124.broadband.corbina.ru
10:00   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
10:02   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
10:03   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Client Quit]
10:54   >>> devonborn!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241
11:40   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
11:43   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.184.122
11:50   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-125-067.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:51   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
11:51   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
11:58   >>> hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@195.204.5.113
11:59   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-215-098.pools.arcor-ip.net
12:01   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-66-6.bb.netbynet.ru
12:03   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.184.122 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
12:14   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-215-098.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
12:16   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.44.67
12:21   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-201-131.pools.arcor-ip.net
12:25   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-201-131.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
12:26   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.44.67 [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
12:42   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.83.221
12:44   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-214-078.pools.arcor-ip.net
12:46   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.83.221 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:57   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-214-078.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
12:58   >>> saraedum!~jule@91.216.93.44
13:00 < saraedum> hi. I'm trying to get the wifi working on my ac100. I searched the logs and forums but the echo 1 > wifi3g just never returns on my system? Any clues what could be the reason? (I'm using the rt3070sta module which comes with the ubuntu rootfs)
13:04   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-221-097.pools.arcor-ip.net
13:05 < Zaek> saraedum: Have you tried to disable bluetooth?
13:10 < saraedum> yes. that didn't seem to make a difference.
13:11 < Zaek> oh :/
13:12 < saraedum> by disabling bluetooth you mean stopping the initscript I guess.
13:12   <   hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@195.204.5.113 [Quit: hyperlemming]
13:12 < Zaek> "Sudo service bluetooth stop" yeh
13:15 < saraedum> I can up/down the ra0 device and it will show up in iwconfig but it won't react to any commands. Pretty much the situation described in an older forum post where people solved it by stopping bluetooth and echoing 1 into the wifi3g thing.
13:16   >>> hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@195.204.5.113
13:18 < Zaek> Ah. Then if that didnt work. I've got no idea tbh :(
13:27   <   hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@195.204.5.113 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:31   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
13:40   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
13:42   >>> hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@195.204.5.113
13:43   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-221-097.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
14:05   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-122-159.pools.arcor-ip.net
14:16   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-122-159.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:23   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net
14:30   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
14:31   <   devonborn!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:33   >>> valalav!b223eafb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.35.234.251
14:38   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net
14:54 < saraedum> regarding my problem with the wifi - the wifi led will now sometimes start to be orange after the echo 1 command. Nevertheless, the command doesn't terminate - could someone who has it working tell me whether it is supposed to block? or should it terminate immediately?
15:22   <   hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@195.204.5.113 [Quit: hyperlemming]
15:22   >>> hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@195.204.5.113
15:24 < gildean> saraedum: don't worry about that command not terminating, open a new terminal and issue ifconfig ra0 down and up
15:32 < nicofs> does anyone know how i can change my screen resolution?
15:32 < nicofs> "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
15:33 < saraedum> gildean: ok. thanks. I can now use iwconfig to change the channel, nickname and a few more things. Somehow I cannot change the essid though. Probably I shouldn't be using iwconfig with this module anyway?
15:43 < phh> iwconfig should work, but anyway you should use wpa_supplicant
15:53   <   hyperlemming!~hyperlemm@195.204.5.113 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:59   >>> devonborn!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241
16:02   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052224197.adsl.alicedsl.de
16:04 < saraedum> wpa_supplicant does the trick. it fails most of the times with ioctl[SIOCSIWGENIE] invalid argument but at some point it manages to connect and to keep the connection for a few minutes...
16:05 < saraedum> I guess I can get it working from here. Thanks for your help. I'll try to incorporate my experiences into the wiki.
16:12 < phh> yeah well. if you can, tell us.
16:12 < phh> because actually, if it stops working at some point, it's not easy to get it back to work stable.
16:13 < woglinde> hm the .37 works fine
16:13 < saraedum> oh, ok. are the other drivers any better?
16:14 < phh> woglinde: yeah yeah sure.
16:14 < phh> and ogra's driver is fine too.
16:14 < woglinde> with the rt2x00 git overlay
16:17 < saraedum> are these included in the ubuntu rootfs? or do I have to compile my own kernel to get them?
16:19 < phh> no
16:19 < phh> woglinde: this driver is in compat-wireless too ?
16:20 < woglinde> phh hm yes
16:20 < woglinde> maybee not with git head
16:20 < woglinde> but may last try some month's ago copy it over to compat-wirless worked
16:21 < phh> yeah months ago it didn't work "fine".
16:21 < phh> just exactly  the same behaviour
16:25 < saraedum> woglinde: the .37 you're refering to...is there any place I could clone the version that works for you from?
16:37 < minimec> Hi. As first time Android user, I am somehow testing Android froyo on my ac100-111. So there is this annoying landscape/portrait mode problem, I like to find a solution for. Searching the net I find 2 solutions: One using a 'home-desktop' replacement, and a more tricky one, by editing the AndroidManifest.xml for all applications that 'portrait'-mode. http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/90467-any-way-force-landscape-orientation.html http
16:38 < minimec> Maybe one of you got a solution?
16:40 < phh> uh ? I can't see how replacing home could change that
16:41 < minimec> phh: I do not either, but I followed this post... http://androidforums.com/856163-post2.html
16:42 < phh> Android used to allow the desktop to rotate with orientation,
16:42 < phh> he is specifically speaking of the desktop
16:42 < phh> not the apps :p
16:43 < minimec> phh: I see that... "Android used to allow the desktop to rotate with orientation, but google disable it in the 2.01 upgrade"
16:43   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
16:44 < phh> yes. it's the desktop itself that rotates.
16:44 < phh> not apps.
16:46 < minimec> phh: So the ac100 never had that option, as it came with Android 2.1? That makes any 'market place' quasi obsolete... unbelievable!!!
16:46 < minimec> phh: So you din't see any solution, I guess?
16:46 < phh> you really don't understand me ..
16:46   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
16:46 < phh> it's not home's work to set orientation.
16:47 < phh> and this link isn't saying anything else
16:47 < phh> well
16:47 < phh> it says that it changes default settings
16:47 < phh> but some apps overwrite it
16:47 < minimec> phh: How could change orientation then?
16:47 < phh> manifets
16:47 < phh> but with tablets I don't think there are many apps left that force to portrait
16:48 < minimec> phh: Ok. For that I would have to install the ANdroid SDK with Eclipse. Would I have to download the apps to my computer to edit the manifests?
16:49 < phh> android sdk ... ?
16:49 < phh> I'd said unziping/rezipping would be enough but I can br wrong
16:51 < nicofs> does anyone know how/if i can change the internal screen resolution?
16:51 < minimec> phh: That would be cool. Still I would need some more info. So I would try to use the package in /system/apps/fooapp, unzip it, change the manifests, zip ot and done?
16:52 < minimec> nicofs: Using ubuntu, modify the xorg.conf I guess... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
16:54 < phh> nicofs: you want to change your panel or ?
16:55 < nicofs> phh, yes
16:55   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
17:03   <   valalav!b223eafb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.35.234.251 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:06   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@f052030066.adsl.alicedsl.de
17:11   <   gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC69CD3.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:13 < woglinde> hi marvin
17:13 < marvin24_DT> hi woglinde
17:15   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225073160.adsl.alicedsl.de
17:15 < woglinde_> re
17:16   >>> thalain!~thalain@213.156.122.44
17:18   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052224197.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
17:18 < thalain> hi guys, I wanted to repack the kernel image to run the Ubuntu from internal storage on a ac100-10K; my android is unfortunately already dead, would anyone be able to provide the proper command line for this model?
17:23   >>> gcst!~stenzel@p5DC69CD3.dip.t-dialin.net
17:41 < gildean> thalain: there is already a image for that
17:58   >>> turbo_!~turbo@g231164021.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:02   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:11 < thalain> oh, I looked here: http://ac100.gudinna.com/internal/ - is there anopther place I should look?
18:12 < thalain> or is the K model synonymous with some of those that are there?
18:36   >>> gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC69CD3.dip.t-dialin.net
18:37   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
18:40   <   gcst!~stenzel@p5DC69CD3.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
18:42   >>> ac100!~ubuntu@123.121.224.207
18:43   ~ ac100 is now Eric
18:45   ~ Eric is now E_ric
18:48 < E_ric> hey guys
18:48 < arune> hey E_ric
18:48 < E_ric> hey
18:49 < E_ric> i'm new here and not good at english
18:49 < arune> ah, then you need to practice your english
18:49 < E_ric> yeah
18:50 < E_ric> but right now i have one trouble with my ac100 to install a Ubuntu
18:50 < E_ric> i see some guides but with no help
18:51 < E_ric> i don't know how to solve it and wanna some help here~
18:51 < arune> whats the problem?
18:52 < E_ric> in most guides, one should install the Ubuntu system in a sd card and boot on it
18:53   >>> vegai!v@archlinux/developer/vegai
18:53 < E_ric> cause i don't have a sd card at the moment i followed another guide and try to install the Ubuntu system on the ac100 local haredisk
18:54 < E_ric> then i flashed the emmc
18:54 < E_ric> and it succeed at last
18:55 < arune> I have only installed on SD myself
18:55 < E_ric> but i still cannot to boot to the Ubuntu
18:55 < E_ric> i just confused now
18:56 < nicofs> E_ric, what exactly did you do so far and what did you flash where?
18:56 < minimec> E_ric: I am not yet using Ubuntu, but it seems that it is not possible to boot an alternate system after having upgraded to Android 2.2. Is that your case?
18:56 < E_ric> i think it has some thing wrong with the boot.img
18:56 < minimec> E_ric: In fact... It is my case.
18:57 < E_ric> but i don't know how to check it
18:57 < minimec> E_ric: Ok. Then I cannot help you further.
18:57 < E_ric> and don't know how to edit the boot.img
18:57 < nicofs> E_ric, so, you mounted your internal storage, reformatted it and extracted the rootfs?
18:57 < E_ric> that's all for my problem
18:59 < E_ric> nicofs, yes
18:59 < E_ric> minimec, yes
18:59 < E_ric> i did update my android system to froyo
18:59 < thalain> @gildean - where can I find the kernel for ac100-10k?
19:00 < minimec> E_ric: So you have to downgrade some partitions. There is aguide. nicofs might give you the link.
19:00 < nicofs> minimec, i'm afraid, i don't have that guide... i never upgraded
19:01 < E_ric> maybe i can find some guide to degrate the system to android 2.1
19:01 < minimec> E_ric: The problem probably also is, that you don't have the old 2.1 backups, as you probably didn't do any backup.
19:02 < E_ric> but i want to make sure that it really works
19:03 < minimec> nicofs: Are the logs of this channel available? Some people talked about that yesterday, including some link.
19:04 < nicofs> "Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/logs/"
19:04 < E_ric> much thanks. I'll check it right now
19:05 < minimec> nicofs: THX
19:10   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-66-6.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:13   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
19:23   <   turbo_!~turbo@g231164021.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Bye]
19:24   >>> gcst__!~stenzel@p5DC6A90A.dip.t-dialin.net
19:26   >>> tilmann1!~t@g231200005.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:27   <   tilmann!~t@g225127071.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:27   <   gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC69CD3.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
19:38 < thalain> I found the command line for repacking the kernel for the 10k but when I boot the kernel IO repacked I get a blank screen, I probably did sth wrong
19:38 < thalain> would anyone be able to tell me where I can find the precompiled 10k kernel, I tried looking for it, to no avail
20:00   <   lanthan_!~ze@p54B7C1A6.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20:01 < woglinde_> marvin24 ping,
20:01 < woglinde_> could you merge latest chroium stuff?
20:03 < woglinde_> hm and the nvidia tree got some updates too
20:04 < woglinde_> hm they enabled
20:04 < woglinde_> CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_720789
20:05 < woglinde_> hm hm
20:06   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
20:07   <   E_ric!~ubuntu@123.121.224.207 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20:08   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
20:18   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-217-184.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:19   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-217-184.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
20:25   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:25   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225073160.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20:29   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g229044014.adsl.alicedsl.de
20:36   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:37 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: this one is more interesting http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=64a6e1d5a555be1c330de80cfb477563ae061452
20:37 < marvin24_DT> :-)
20:37 < woglinde> i2s
20:37 < woglinde> yes
20:38 < woglinde> and the follow up
20:38 < woglinde> http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d78d90d1e304d23102ba48534e4ba81288a2519
20:38   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
20:40 < marvin24_DT> channel 3 is the same as nvec
20:40 < marvin24_DT> seem they are preparing nvec support ?
20:41 < marvin24_DT> the erratas seem to belong to rev0-2 (we have rev0) if I interpred the dmesg output right
20:42 < marvin24_DT> I guess this would have some speed impact
20:42   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@f052234065.adsl.alicedsl.de
20:44   <   woglinde!~heinold@g229044014.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20:44 < marvin24_DT> I wonder why they hardcode it
20:44 < marvin24_DT> I mean the slave support
20:44 < woglinde_> re
20:45 < woglinde_> seems I missed some messages
20:45 < woglinde_> crappy dsl line
20:57 < marvin24_DT> mmh, sl_cnfg is programmed also if port is master only
20:57 < marvin24_DT> they just added some NACK
21:00   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052224059.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:00   <   woglinde_!~heinold@f052234065.adsl.alicedsl.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:02 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: pushed ....
21:03 < woglinde> ;)
21:05 < woglinde> ah powerdown crash fixed too
21:05 < woglinde> fine
21:07 < marvin24_DT> btw, do you see mouse/kbd init problem?
21:07 < woglinde> hm sometimes
21:07 < woglinde> but mostly it works
21:07 < marvin24_DT> I mean sometimes the keyboard is not initilized
21:07 < marvin24_DT> ok
21:07 < marvin24_DT> you can disable nvec-power driver
21:07 < woglinde> hm
21:07 < marvin24_DT> I don't know what's going on
21:07 < marvin24_DT> still debugging
21:08 < woglinde> hm I want to know the percentage
21:09 < marvin24_DT> you could also disable the mouse (also works)
21:09 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
21:09 < woglinde> hm just wanted to get xorg now working
21:11 < marvin24_DT> still trying?
21:12 < marvin24_DT> did you tried the unbind trick?
21:12 < woglinde> yes
21:12 < woglinde> but didnt worked yet
21:13 < marvin24_DT> mmh
21:13 < marvin24_DT> works here
21:14 < woglinde> no chance
21:14 < woglinde> still 1
21:14 < woglinde> hm
21:15 < woglinde> is there some trick to find out which process bounds it?
21:15 < marvin24_DT> what are you doing
21:16 < marvin24_DT> echo unbind > /sys/devices/virtual/virtualvt/vtcon1/bind
21:16 < woglinde> echo 0 > /sys/class/vtconsole/vtcon1/bind
21:16 < marvin24_DT> almost
21:16 < woglinde> ugh
21:16 < marvin24_DT> no
21:17 < woglinde> hm
21:18 < woglinde> no chance
21:19 < woglinde> hm seems console-kit blokc tty0
21:20 < woglinde> hm hm
21:20 < woglinde> cat /sys/devices/virtual/vtconsole/vtcon1/bind still gives 1
21:21 < woglinde> args
21:21 < woglinde> damn console-kit
21:22 < nicofs> does anyone know how to set the internal screen resolution?
21:23 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: did you echo unbind or 0 ?
21:23 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: resolution is hard coded
21:24 < woglinde> unbind
21:24 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, any way round that?
21:24 < woglinde> marvin hm problem is console-kit which is started by gdm and than greps tty0
21:24 < woglinde> before xserver starts
21:24 < woglinde> I think
21:24   <   grandrew!~andrew@95-24-73-124.broadband.corbina.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:24 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: patch kernel
21:25 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: I havn't tried it in rc.local
21:25 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, erm... if i were to try that - where would i start?
21:25 < woglinde> marvin what should the value in vtcon1/bind than?
21:26   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net
21:26 < woglinde> 0
21:26 < woglinde> or 1
21:26 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: I remember someone replacing his display to 1368x786
21:26 < marvin24_DT> but he didn't figured out how to increase the framebuffer res
21:26 < marvin24_DT> on .37 is should be more easy
21:26 < woglinde> yes
21:27 < marvin24_DT> I dunno .32/.29
21:27 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: here it is 0
21:27 < woglinde> hm okay
21:27 < woglinde> still 1
21:27 < woglinde> here
21:27 < woglinde> hm
21:27 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, sadly i have been absent the last few weeks... is there any development? what about .37?
21:27 < woglinde> is Xorg using fb0 or fb1?
21:28 < woglinde> should ne fb1
21:28 < marvin24_DT> fb0
21:28 < woglinde> ?
21:28 < marvin24_DT> but console is vtcon1
21:28 < woglinde> thats the dummy?
21:28 < woglinde> ah hm
21:28 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: slow progress
21:28 < woglinde> fb1 is hdmi=
21:28 < woglinde> ?
21:28 < marvin24_DT> maybe
21:28 < marvin24_DT> yes
21:28 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, that's progress non the less ;-)
21:28 < woglinde> hm hm
21:28 < marvin24_DT> don't try to use it
21:28 < woglinde> dman unbind
21:29 < marvin24_DT> putting it directly into rc.local doesn't work
21:29 < marvin24_DT> I always do it via remote
21:30 < woglinde> yeah I am on via usb now
21:30 < marvin24_DT> when is rc.local executed?
21:30 < marvin24_DT> from there it should work
21:30 < woglinde> and I disabeld all console
21:30 < woglinde> killed all stuff which uses tty0
21:30 < woglinde> and still the echo 0/unbind dont works
21:30 < woglinde> hrms
21:32 < marvin24_DT> I added it to gdm.conf now
21:32 < marvin24_DT> seems to work
21:32 < marvin24_DT> no need to disable anything
21:32 < woglinde> marvin whats your fb kernel config now?
21:33 < woglinde> maybee I forgot something there
21:33 < marvin24_DT> you need to activate unbind framebuffer of course
21:33 < marvin24_DT> it's in my config
21:34   >>> gildean!gildean@salaliitto.com
21:34 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/logs/
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21:34 < woglinde> hm
21:34 < woglinde> okay
21:35 < woglinde> hm yes not set
21:37 < woglinde> args the option is not under framebuffer
21:40   >>> grandrew!~andrew@95-27-133-126.broadband.corbina.ru
21:40 < woglinde> marvin hm can we fix the clock stuff some more?
21:40 < woglinde> okay diner now till later
21:45 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: http://code.google.com/p/chromium-os/issues/detail?id=12473
21:46 < marvin24_DT> and new: http://codereview.chromium.org/6760022/
21:51 < marvin24_DT> ^^^ seems to "fix" it
22:03 < thalain> @gildean - could you tell me where I can find the precompiled ac100-10k kernel? I tried repacking the 10u myself but I can't seem to get it to work...
22:03 < thalain> (and I saw you re-join the chat and couldn't help asking again ;)
22:20 < woglinde> marvin hm so its in
22:31 < gildean> thalain: for which setup? for ogras, check the links in the topic, for phh, search plop.img in the log
22:38 < thalain> for phh; the website with plop.img (husson) is down :/
22:39 < thalain> but thanks for the help anyway, perhaps it will be up later
22:39 < woglinde> ah nice now all its working
22:39 < woglinde> thanks again marvin
22:43 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: which .config are you using?
22:44 < gildean> thalain: search again, there is a secondary link for it
22:48   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:48   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052224059.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
22:49   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052225164.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:56 < woglinde> hm wlan0 is now as bas as always sometimes
22:56 < woglinde> hm
23:03   >>> alain_!~alain@178-27-48-4-dynip.superkabel.de
23:03   <   alain_!~alain@178-27-48-4-dynip.superkabel.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:09   >>> AlainS!~alain@178-27-48-4-dynip.superkabel.de
23:12 < AlainS> Hi there.
23:13 < AlainS> I just wanted to install Ubuntu on a SD on my new ac100
23:13 < AlainS> And I had to realize, that linux4tegra is not available anymore. So i do not have any nvflash.
23:13 < AlainS> Is there a free version?
23:17 < AlainS> Or a mirror?
23:19 < woglinde> not really
23:22 < AlainS> So I have to wait for nvidia releasing the next version, whenever that will be?
23:22 < gildean> there is a repack, check the logs for the link
23:24 < AlainS> found it, thanks
23:43   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
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00:00   <   devonborn!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:06   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-66-6.bb.netbynet.ru
00:16   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
00:17   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
00:25   <   tilmann1!~t@g231200005.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
00:44   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
00:45   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
00:53   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-66-6.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
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01:19   >>> artemmakhutov!~artem@2001:6f8:115f:0:224:d7ff:fe2e:9974
01:21   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
01:30   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@f052030066.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
01:41   <   thalain!~thalain@213.156.122.44 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
01:45   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052225164.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
01:59   <   AlainS!~alain@178-27-48-4-dynip.superkabel.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
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02:15   <   Incred!~incred@188.232.135.75 [Remote host closed the connection]
03:13   >>> turbooster!~turbooste@g231164021.adsl.alicedsl.de
03:17   <   turbooster!~turbooste@g231164021.adsl.alicedsl.de [Client Quit]
03:25   <   minimec!~minimec@77-56-254-17.dclient.hispeed.ch [Quit: Lost terminal]
04:35   >>> E_ric!~ubuntu@123.121.224.207
04:40   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
04:54 < E_ric> hey guys
04:58   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-244.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
04:59   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-244.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
05:04   <   E_ric!~ubuntu@123.121.224.207 ["暂离"]
05:24   >>> E_ric!~ubuntu@123.121.224.207
05:34   >>> lanthan!~ze@46.253.54.75
05:36   <   lanthan!~ze@46.253.54.75 [Max SendQ exceeded]
06:53   >>> Pianesi!~Rpianesi@pool-71-99-111-130.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net
06:54   <   Pianesi!~Rpianesi@pool-71-99-111-130.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net []
07:48   >>> lanthan!~ze@46.253.54.75
08:10   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:51   >>> tilmann!~t@g231200005.adsl.alicedsl.de
08:54   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net
09:01   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
09:11 < E_ric> has anyone got the plop.img at hand? I have tried I can to search the web as well as to modify the bootimg, however, my ubuntu on the ssd of ac100 still won't work.
09:12 < E_ric> Or is there some knowhow with the bootimg?
09:12 < E_ric> I just upzip it and edit the init
09:14 < E_ric> while, when repack the bootimg and flash to the machine, it doesn't get a better result.
09:27 < gildean> E_ric: search the log for plop.img, there is a share1t-link in there somewhere
09:29 < E_ric> gildean, I have searched the whole log, and tried the web u mentioned above, but it dead as well as other links
09:31 < gildean> seems so, i'll upload it to another site
09:33 < gildean> ok, plop.img is here: http://dy.fi/y0l
09:33 < E_ric> gildean, much thanks
09:39 < E_ric> gildean, the link u provide seems doesn't work right now
10:02 < gildean> works for me
10:03 < gildean> make sure you're not blocking the captcha with noscript or anything like that
10:19   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-76-163.bb.netbynet.ru
10:21   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
10:35   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
10:56   >>> artemmakhutov!~artem@2001:6f8:115f:0:224:d7ff:fe2e:9974
11:19   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-76-163.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
11:19   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
11:22   <   kml!~kml@subseo.pl [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
11:28   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.90.98
11:40   >>> devonborn!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241
11:58   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
12:04   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@g226136004.adsl.alicedsl.de
12:04 < artemmakhutov> hi
12:06   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.90.98 []
12:06 < artemmakhutov> the kernel tree: http://gitorious.org/ac100/marvin24s-kernel - what is the original base for it?
12:07 < marvin24_DT> chomeos kernel
12:07 < marvin24_DT> git.chromium.org
12:07 < marvin24_DT> kernel-next branch
12:07 < artemmakhutov> thx
12:07 < artemmakhutov> I was digging with my folio again
12:08 < artemmakhutov> pretty funny things: the Harmony board of your kernel is working on the folio
12:08   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
12:08 < artemmakhutov> but when I try to compile the harmony board from nvidia or android kernel it does not work ...
12:08 < marvin24_DT> uh
12:08 < artemmakhutov> have you changed anything in you harmony board config?
12:09 < marvin24_DT> no
12:09 < artemmakhutov> http://pastebin.com/KcBgvX8P
12:09 < marvin24_DT> what boards did you activate
12:09 < artemmakhutov> only harmony
12:09 < marvin24_DT> machine id also says harmony
12:10 < artemmakhutov> nope, I have cange this
12:10 < artemmakhutov> in mach-types I have added:
12:10 < marvin24_DT> it comes from the bootloader
12:10 < artemmakhutov> tegra_legacy            MACH_TEGRA_LEGACY       TEGRA_LEGACY            3333
12:10 < marvin24_DT> 2731 is harmony
12:11 < marvin24_DT> it's possible that you need to change some gpios
12:11 < artemmakhutov> and in board-harmony.c I have added MACHINE_START(TEGRA_LEGACY, "tegra_legacy") ...
12:11 < marvin24_DT> is this required?
12:11 < artemmakhutov> yes
12:11 < marvin24_DT> even more strange
12:11 < artemmakhutov> after changing the two files in you kernel tree, the kernel is booting
12:12 < artemmakhutov> video is working, internal flash seems also to work ....
12:12 < marvin24_DT> in the end the tegra boards are all very similar
12:12 < marvin24_DT> that's because most is setup by the bootloader already
12:13 < artemmakhutov> yes, but when I change the two files in the android kernel - it does not boot at all - the display keeps black and I also don't get any output over the serial port
12:13 < artemmakhutov> ok - the backlight is till on, but the display is black ...
12:13 < marvin24_DT> I guess they disabled the framebuffer console
12:14 < marvin24_DT> no need for it in android
12:14 < artemmakhutov> may be possible
12:14 < marvin24_DT> or chromium
12:14 < artemmakhutov> but then I should at least get some output over my USB-Serial port
12:16 < artemmakhutov> maybe I must disable someting in the kernel .config?
12:16 < marvin24_DT> check with lsusb
12:17 < artemmakhutov> ah ... exactly ... lsusb .... when the kernel comes up correctly I can see the USB Gadget on my notebook ....
12:17 < artemmakhutov> this only happend with your kernel sources :)
12:18 < marvin24_DT> you need to compile it in of course to make it working
12:18 < artemmakhutov> I will try to compile the kernel-next branch .... lets see if this one will boot
12:18 < artemmakhutov> sure, it's compiled in :)
12:18   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-76-163.bb.netbynet.ru
12:22 < marvin24_DT> so chances are good that you can get honeycomb running once it is released
12:25 < artemmakhutov> yes, but I need to get the kernel running first :)
12:35 < E_ric> hey guys
12:37 < E_ric> about the lid problem, I followed the instructions and copy the lid-switch-daemon to /usr/sbin/, while when I key in the command "sudo /usr/sbin/lid-switch-daemon -b", it tells me "command not found".
12:38 < E_ric> Is there any wrong with my operation?
12:38 < Unseen2> Is /usr/sbin/lit-switch-daemon flagged as executable?
12:39 < E_ric> seems not
12:40 < Unseen2> "chmod +x /usr/sbin/lid-switch-daemon", try again
12:41 < E_ric> the command u list seems right
12:42 < E_ric> but where should i put the "-b" parameter?
12:50 < E_ric> Unseen2, thx! It deed works.
12:57 < artemmakhutov> so ... I just compiled the kernel-next from git.chromium.org ... it works on the folio ...
12:58   >>> AlainS!~alain@178-27-48-4-dynip.superkabel.de
13:19   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-76-163.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:19 < artemmakhutov> why are you running the chromeos kernel on the ac100 instead of the android or the official kernel?
13:28   >>> bigla!~bigla@a-84.vc-graz.ac.at
13:34 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: my goal is to get ac100 support in mainline
13:34 < marvin24_DT> same as for chromeos
13:35 < marvin24_DT> nvidia/android is different
13:35 < marvin24_DT> they use the old way of making releases to oem
13:36   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
13:36 < marvin24_DT> btw, ac100 kernel is now at .37 and soon at .38
13:36 < muromec> wow
13:36 < marvin24_DT> hi muromec
13:36 < muromec> hi
13:36 < marvin24_DT> I had to reduce the power polling to 5 secs
13:36 < muromec> marvin24_DT, what was broken?
13:36 < marvin24_DT> otherwise everyone got confused
13:37 < marvin24_DT> no nvec detection
13:37 < muromec> ah, why?
13:37 < marvin24_DT> donno
13:37 < marvin24_DT> we are not handling everything well
13:37 < muromec> sure!
13:37 < marvin24_DT> and mouse + power events where mixed
13:37   <   AlainS!~alain@178-27-48-4-dynip.superkabel.de [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:38 < marvin24_DT> we handle no acks from the ec for example
13:38 < muromec> ah, yep, we should implement sync mode for command sender
13:38 < marvin24_DT> yes, sync would be nice
13:38   muromec was fighting userspace
13:39 < marvin24_DT> and a queue for tx first
13:39 < marvin24_DT> the isr is overloaded
13:39 < muromec> eah
13:42 < muromec> marvin24_DT, anything in .37 still broken?
13:45   <   E_ric!~ubuntu@123.121.224.207 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:46 < marvin24_DT> not that I know of
13:46 < marvin24_DT> feel free to try
13:46 < marvin24_DT> wifi hangs sometimes but recovers automaticaly
13:46 < zod> marvin24_DT: do you also plan to support suspend or sound?
13:47   >>> marvin24_ac!~marvin24@g226136004.adsl.alicedsl.de
13:47 < muromec> zod, no, its just useless bullshit!
13:47 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
13:47 < marvin24_DT> zod: sound is something I cannot do personally
13:47 < marvin24_DT> and suspend isn't even working on chromium
13:47 < marvin24_DT> (I guess)
13:47 < muromec> marvin24_DT, on .37 we can use wifi driver from kernel tree, not from compat-wireless, right?
13:48 < marvin24_DT> in fact I ported to compat-wireless tree to .37
13:48 < marvin24_DT> and it seems to work finde
13:48 < marvin24_DT> *fine
13:49   muromec dont get
13:49 < marvin24_DT> ?
13:49 < muromec> you backported compat-wireless from .37 inside .37 tree?
13:49 < marvin24_DT> eh, sorry no
13:49 < marvin24_DT> I backported current compat-wireless
13:50 < marvin24_DT> (39+)
13:50 < muromec> ah
13:50 < muromec> ok
13:50 < muromec> anyway its inside the kernel now?
13:50 < marvin24_ac> and (as you can from my nick), it's working ;-)
13:51 < muromec> oh, nice
13:51 < marvin24_ac> yep
13:51 < marvin24_ac> just check it out
13:51   muromec always forgot to copy modules inside rootfs
13:51   marvin24_ac does it automaticly
13:51 < muromec> yep, i should check it
13:52 < marvin24_ac> copy modules to ramdisk
13:52 < marvin24_ac> create initrd
13:52 < muromec> i have no ramdisk ;)
13:52 < marvin24_ac> *initrd
13:52 < marvin24_ac> initrd copied to mmc
13:52 < marvin24_ac> *copies
13:53 < marvin24_ac> can't we replace the keyboard with a kernel patch?
13:53 < muromec> ?
13:56 < marvin24_ac> keyboard is to small for my huge fingers
13:57 < muromec> ah :)
13:57 < muromec> you should replace fingers with some patch
13:59 < marvin24_DT> -> patchhands (in german: Patschehändchen)
14:08   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Remote host closed the connection]
14:08   <   bigla!~bigla@a-84.vc-graz.ac.at [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:14 < artemmakhutov> hat wifi do you have in the ac100?
14:14 < artemmakhutov> also the ar6003 ?
14:19 < marvin24_ac> no
14:19 < marvin24_ac> ra3070
14:20 < artemmakhutov> luck you :)
14:20 < artemmakhutov> *lucky
14:20   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-76-163.bb.netbynet.ru
14:21 < artemmakhutov> ok, a am away for 1 hours ...
14:26 < marvin24_ac> artemmakhutov, not really
14:28   >>> AstroBax!~david@vpn-b-195-011.epfl.ch
14:28   <   AstroBax!~david@vpn-b-195-011.epfl.ch [Client Quit]
14:30   >>> stud3722!~V@195.204.5.113
14:37   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr
14:48   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
14:53   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
14:54 < stud3722> i get the feeling ubuntu is not terribly responsive on the ac100: menus that take 1-2 seconds to pop up, web pages that don't scroll smoothly...
14:58   >>> MMind|2!~MMind@91-64-162-199-dynip.superkabel.de
15:01   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-76-163.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
15:02   <   MMind|2!~MMind@91-64-162-199-dynip.superkabel.de [Client Quit]
15:10 < stud3722> i'm running phh's image off internal memory (ext3),i
15:11 < stud3722> is DRI enabled in that?
15:18   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
15:27 < marvin24_ac> stud3722, no dri here
15:27 < marvin24_ac> latency comes from mmc
15:28 < marvin24_ac> you could try nilfs2 - maybe dangerous
15:29 < stud3722> so i should get one of those fancy SDs they use in digital SLRs?
15:32 < stud3722> is anyone working on a bootloader for 2.2?
15:35 < stud3722> other than that, things are looking nice. there are some hardware support issues, but honestly, great work guys
15:37 < arune> cool http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/hercules-unveils-ecafe-netbook-series-runs-ubuntu-netbook-remix/
15:43 < marvin24_ac> slow cpu
15:43 < Mifun> nice battery
15:44   <   stud3722!~V@195.204.5.113 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
15:45   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-76-163.bb.netbynet.ru
15:47   <   Eruquen!Eruquen@server3.raumopol.de [Remote host closed the connection]
15:47   >>> Eruquen!Eruquen@server3.raumopol.de
16:11   >>> max__!~max@5e002d3e.bb.sky.com
16:14   >>> stud3722!~V@195.204.5.113
16:19   >>> stud37221!~V@195.204.5.113
16:19   <   stud3722!~V@195.204.5.113 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
16:21   >>> kissakala!~mauri@95.175.118.169
16:22 < kissakala> http://www.gratispremium.info/?ref=222530
16:23 < kissakala> Can you click that link? That's not virus or etc. Just harmless link. If you click that I'll be happy :)
16:26   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
16:26   <   kissakala!~mauri@95.175.118.169 [Quit: Lähdössä]
16:28   <   stud37221!~V@195.204.5.113 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
16:34   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
16:45   <   Eruquen!Eruquen@server3.raumopol.de [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
16:46   >>> Eruquen!Eruquen@server3.raumopol.de
17:14 < artemmakhutov> I was digging arround with folio 100 and the chromeos kernel: http://pastebin.com/ZACqUm2D
17:15 < artemmakhutov> Any ideas why I have to add MACHINE_START(TEGRA_LEGACY, "tegra_legacy") AND MACHINE_START(HARMONY, "harmony") to make it running?
17:15 < artemmakhutov> just adding MACHINE_START(TEGRA_LEGACY, "tegra_legacy") is not enough ....
17:16 < artemmakhutov> but setting an empty MACHINE_START(HARMONY, "harmony") is also not working like in board-paz00.c .....
17:30 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: that's a secret ...
17:30 < marvin24_DT> ac100 also needs harmony + paz00
17:30 < marvin24_DT> for no good reason
17:30 < marvin24_DT> also the bootloader seems to test the kernel version
17:30 < marvin24_DT> or something else
17:31 < marvin24_DT> giving different machine id to different kernels
17:32 < marvin24_DT> artemmakhutov: you can try to give an empty tegra_legacy
17:32 < marvin24_DT> which should also work
17:33 < artemmakhutov> ok, I will try ...
17:38 < artemmakhutov> argh ... tried out all the combinations on the android kernel .... its not booting ...
17:40   >>> E_ric!~ubuntu@123.121.224.207
17:42   <   max__!~max@5e002d3e.bb.sky.com [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:04 < artemmakhutov> marvin24_DT: did you had the same problems with the AC100 ?
18:05 < marvin24_DT> I never tried android kernel
18:08 < artemmakhutov> maybe you can try it?
18:13   <   lanthan!~ze@46.253.54.75 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:18 < onestep> can someone give me a hint how to get kernel command line from image of 5th partition?
18:25   >>> client3424!~client342@84-72-70-35.dclient.hispeed.ch
18:30   <   client3424!~client342@84-72-70-35.dclient.hispeed.ch [Read error: Operation timed out]
18:31   >>> client3424!~client342@84-72-70-35.dclient.hispeed.ch
18:37   >>> muromec!~muromec@188-115-136-53.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua
18:38 < muromec> marvin24_ac, wanna some kernel pacnics? http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/debian/
18:42   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225072188.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:45   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
18:46   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
18:46   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
19:01   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
19:17   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225072188.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
19:18   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g230118125.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:23   <   woglinde!~heinold@g230118125.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:23   >>> phneutral!~phneutral@p5B08E59D.dip.t-dialin.net
19:24   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052229244.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:24 < phneutral> hi everyone
19:25 < phneutral> is it normal, that you cant flash custom kernels after upgrading to froyo?
19:25 < woglinde> ?
19:26 < woglinde> you can flash them
19:26 < Unseen2> Yes, the 2.2 update also changes the bootloader. Currently you need to downgrade
19:26 < woglinde> that wasnt the question
19:26 < woglinde> you can flash
19:26 < phneutral> but they dont work?
19:26 < Unseen2> Ok, if you want to nitpick: Flashing works, booting doesn't
19:26 < woglinde> .37 works
19:27 < woglinde> the .32 from toshiba works too
19:27 < phneutral> did they change the partion layout?
19:27 < woglinde> no
19:27 < phneutral> mhhh
19:27   <   gcst__!~stenzel@p5DC6A90A.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
19:28 < phneutral> i dont get it... after flashing the kernel... nvflash says everythings fine... i always get system recovery by andorid
19:28 < woglinde> yes that changed
19:28 < woglinde> you can not boot from part5 anymore
19:28 < woglinde> with the 2.2 bootloader
19:28 < woglinde> only from part6
19:28 < phneutral> but then i loose android
19:29   <   tilmann!~t@g231200005.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
19:29 < phneutral> so only internal boot does work
19:29 < phneutral> ?
19:30 < woglinde> no
19:31 < phneutral> okay.. is there a way to boot from part 5
19:31 < phneutral> ?
19:31 < phneutral> or did you mean you cant boot ether way?
19:31 < woglinde> no
19:31 < woglinde> a kernel is now booted from part6 only
19:32 < phneutral> but flashing ther kernel to part 6 will destroy android right?
19:32 < woglinde> no
19:33 < phneutral> O_o
19:34 < phneutral> if i flash the kernel to part 6 i still can boot andorid?
19:34 < E_ric> seems not
19:35 < E_ric> i have tried for quite a few times, and the results seem depressing.
19:35 < phneutral> so the only way would be not to have the upgrade in the first place...=)
19:36 < E_ric> hey guys, seems my firefox won't upgrade the latest version of flash player
19:36 < woglinde> *sigh*
19:37 < E_ric> u may also degrade it back to v2.1
19:37 < phneutral> how?
19:37 < E_ric> that's my choice
19:38 < phneutral> does anyone has the link to former 2.1 "rom"
19:39 < E_ric> it's quite a large file indeed, I don't have it right now. Seems someone has discussed it before, I'd suggest u to check the logs
19:40   >>> gcst__!~stenzel@p5DC6AFDB.dip.t-dialin.net
19:41 < Unseen2> There is a torrent link on http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/download/
19:44   >>> tilmann!~t@g225121052.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:48 < phneutral> Unseen2,  <= thx for help
19:49 < phneutral> bye everyone
19:49   <   phneutral!~phneutral@p5B08E59D.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Verlassend]
19:52   <   marvin24_ac!~marvin24@g226136004.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:55 < E_ric> Is any encountered the issue that ubuntu can't auto mount the usb stick as well as sd card? I have tried several card but it always say accecc denied. When I turned to the terminal and mount manually it just say "can't find /dev/sdb1/mnt/usb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
19:57   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-22-126.w92-162.abo.wanadoo.fr [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:57 < E_ric> i'd like to know if this is common 4 everyone. If so, I can turn to the fstab directly.~
19:57   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
19:57 < muromec> E_ric, you have wrong entry in fstab
19:58 < muromec> or its no fstab
19:58 < muromec> you just have not space between /dev/sdb1 and /mnt/usb
19:58 < muromec> *have no
19:59 < E_ric> muromec, I checked my fstab, and it is blank.
19:59 < muromec> "/dev/sdb1/mnt/usb" <- here is no
20:00   >>> julien_!~remix1@95.142.161.65
20:00 < julien_> salut
20:01   <   julien_!~remix1@95.142.161.65 [Client Quit]
20:01   >>> julien_!~remix1@95.142.161.65
20:03 < E_ric> muromec, I get confused
20:05 < onestep> that's not an fstab issue
20:05 < E_ric> when I tried the commands in a terminal, it seems the sd card has been mounted. But when I turn to the files on the desktop, it would say mount failed due to not authorized.
20:05 < onestep> I think you try to mount your card like "mount /dev/sdb1/mnt/usb"
20:05 < onestep> and mount tries to find entry of /dev/sdb1/mnt/usb in fstab
20:05 < onestep> and there is no such entry
20:05 < onestep> and this is right
20:06 < onestep> issue space between .../sdb1 and /mnt... and don't forget sudo in front of command
20:07   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:07 < woglinde> damn update from maverick to natty lasts the whole day
20:07 < scoopr> on ac100?
20:10 < woglinde> yes
20:10 < E_ric> onestep, I know what u mean, much thanks. But in my issue, I just type "sudo mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt/media", and it seems no problem, then it says "Error"
20:11 < muromec> o_O
20:11 < woglinde> wow its finished now
20:11 < woglinde> now I can reduce the packages
20:11 < E_ric> In another window, not the terminal, it says "Error mounting '4.0 GB Filesystem; Not authorized"
20:11 < muromec> E_ric, but you said about sda
20:11 < woglinde> like removing most of mono and gnome crap
20:11 < muromec> E_ric, add yourself to "disk" group
20:11 < muromec> or plugdev
20:12 < muromec> not sure how it is called
20:12   <   julien_!~remix1@95.142.161.65 ["dtc"]
20:15 < woglinde> bah X disabled third mousekey
20:15 < muromec> ah, yeah
20:15 < marvin24_DT> muromec: looks like your installer oopes in lp3
20:16 < marvin24_DT> never seen that here
20:16 < muromec> marvin24_DT, what is lp3 ?
20:16 < muromec> sleep mode?
20:16 < marvin24_DT> some idle i think
20:16 < E_ric> I myself is the admin, seems enough , but still no help
20:16 < muromec> marvin24_DT, how its related to wifi?
20:16 < marvin24_DT> is it?
20:16 < muromec> sure!
20:16 < muromec> panics all the time i`m trying to scan wifi
20:17 < marvin24_DT> wait 120 sec
20:17 < muromec> from di
20:20 < marvin24_DT> mmh, ok, no oops without selecting wifi
20:21 < muromec> sure!
20:21 < marvin24_DT> too sad I cannot see the top of the oops
20:21 < muromec> tried 5 times
20:21 < muromec> marvin24_DT, you have usb console working, right?
20:22 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:22 < marvin24_DT> does di supports this?
20:22 < marvin24_DT> well, I can set it up manualy
20:22 < muromec> set up what?
20:22 < marvin24_DT> usb console
20:23   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-092-078-100-033.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20:23 < muromec> emm... after kernel start?
20:24   <   devonborn!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241 []
20:24 < muromec> d-i should guess where system console is and start there
20:25 < marvin24_DT> I thought some login
20:25 < marvin24_DT> but there is not getty
20:25 < muromec> you can go to second and third tty
20:25 < muromec> ah, usb
20:25 < marvin24_DT> but I cannot scroll after the oops
20:25   muromec stupid
20:25   >>> slh!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241
20:25   <   slh!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241 [Client Quit]
20:26 < muromec> marvin24_DT, you can change kernel command line and get it
20:27   >>> farmboy!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241
20:27 < muromec> marvin24_DT, i have just uploaded separate initrd image
20:28 < woglinde> muromec what you are working on?
20:28 < muromec> woglinde, debian installer
20:29 < woglinde> hm
20:29 < muromec> for now its just old one (armel)
20:29 < muromec> built for armv4
20:29 < woglinde> yes I know
20:29 < muromec> armhf is nice, but have no chromium
20:30 < woglinde> hm ugh?
20:30 < muromec> yeah
20:30 < woglinde> hm you could rebuild the ubuntu package
20:30 < woglinde> shouldnt be that hard
20:30 < muromec> HAHAHAH
20:30 < woglinde> only time consuming
20:30 < muromec> ok, try it
20:31 < woglinde> thats why I am updating to natty now
20:31 < woglinde> to get the fixes chromium
20:31 < muromec> well.. there is a lot of hardcoded cflags
20:31 < muromec> in chromim
20:32 < muromec> and resulting binary size is 700~ MB
20:32 < muromec> unstripped
20:32 < muromec> so need > 2GB ram for link
20:32 < muromec> and after you wait 12 hours to compile, then find 2GB ram to link..
20:33 < muromec> .. you will find result cant run
20:33 < woglinde> *g*
20:33 < woglinde> swap
20:33 < muromec> sure, lot of swap
20:33 < scoopr> gold linker might be better on the ram, but the one in maverick didn't produce working binaries for me :/
20:33 < woglinde> good mono crap is gone
20:34 < muromec> anyway, i tried 3 or 4 times and no one produced working binary
20:34 < muromec> just segfaults on start without reason
20:34   >>> DasDGW!bc6e5b02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.110.91.2
20:34 < muromec> binary build from ubuntu cant be used
20:34 < muromec> as armhf has changed abi
20:36 < woglinde> jepp
20:36 < muromec> its all disregarding the fact source package from ubuntu is shamelessly wrong all the way
20:36 < woglinde> ugh?
20:36   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:36 < muromec> yeah
20:36 < muromec> well, just try to build
20:37 < woglinde> do you know why the linking needs 2 gig?
20:37 < woglinde> its webkot
20:37 < woglinde> ups webkit
20:37 < woglinde> *g*
20:37 < muromec> its because it links 3.5 GB objects?
20:38   >>> kottt!5c2a1c19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.42.28.25
20:51   <   muromec!~muromec@188-115-136-53.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua ["Leaving"]
20:57   <   kottt!5c2a1c19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.42.28.25 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:11   <   E_ric!~ubuntu@123.121.224.207 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
21:18   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:21   >>> br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch
21:26 < jeremiah> Is there any other way to flash the AC 100 aside from using the L4T tools?
21:31 < marvin24_DT> muromec wrote something
21:32 < marvin24_DT> github.com/muromec/putusb.git
21:35   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
21:35   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052229244.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:35   >>> AlainS!~alain@178-27-48-4-dynip.superkabel.de
21:37   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-222.pools.arcor-ip.net
21:37   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225075210.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:40   <   AlainS!~alain@178-27-48-4-dynip.superkabel.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
21:42   >>> minimec!~minimec@77-56-254-17.dclient.hispeed.ch
21:42   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225075210.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
21:43   >>> woglinde!~heinold@f052067066.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:48   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@f052067031.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:49   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052067066.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
21:51 < minimec> Hi I got the Android market working on my ac100-111 with Android 2.2. Do you know, why I can install firefox 4.0 (as example), but not Dolphin HD or Opera 11 (with flash)?
21:51 < minimec> And would you have a good suggestion for a terminal software with android 2.2?
21:55   <   grandrew!~andrew@95-27-133-126.broadband.corbina.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
21:56   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7D519.dip.t-dialin.net
21:57   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7D519.dip.t-dialin.net [Max SendQ exceeded]
21:58   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7D519.dip.t-dialin.net
21:59   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
21:59   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
22:00   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
22:02 < muromec> Hexxeh, hi
22:02 < muromec> Hexxeh, wtf with timezone selection in chromium builds?
22:04 < muromec> hmmm
22:04 < muromec> "You should be an owner on the machine to change the timezone.
22:04 < muromec> Are you logged in as a owner? I am guessing not. "
22:04 < muromec> o_O
22:04   >>> gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC6AFDB.dip.t-dialin.net
22:08   <   gcst__!~stenzel@p5DC6AFDB.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
22:08   >>> grandrew!~andrew@95-25-183-254.broadband.corbina.ru
22:14   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:27   <   grandrew!~andrew@95-25-183-254.broadband.corbina.ru [Remote host closed the connection]
22:38 < saraedum> I still can't get wifi to work here. I'm running an ac100-marvin24s-kernel (2.6.37) from gitorious with the rt2800usb module. I can scan for access points but wpa_supplicant will always time out when trying to associate.
22:38 < saraedum> Any ideas what could be wrong?
22:47 < jeremiah> marvin24_DT: Thanks - I'll check it out. :)
22:48 < woglinde_> saraedum change your position
22:50 < saraedum> the ac100 and the AP are in the same room. so signal strength shouldn't be an issue.
22:51 < marvin24_DT> what's err msg?
22:51 < marvin24_DT> (last lines of dmesg)
22:51   >>> lenios__!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1
22:52   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
22:58 < saraedum> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
22:58 < saraedum> and wlan0: direct probe to 00:14:6c:dc:79:ed (try 1/3) and similar
22:58 < saraedum> see http://pastebin.com/yQgmajpx
23:00 < saraedum> wpa_supplicants output is at http://pastebin.com/CfFbsgrq
23:00 < marvin24_DT> are you sure wlan0 setup is ok
23:01 < marvin24_DT> e.g. does it work with .29?
23:01 < woglinde_> marvin I got a lot of timeouts here too
23:01 < marvin24_DT> mmh, I don't see it here
23:02 < marvin24_DT> but the router is only 1m away
23:02 < saraedum> it never really worked with .29 - only tried the rt3070sta module.
23:03 < saraedum> what could be wrong with the wlan0 setup? I don't really understand what you mean.
23:03 < marvin24_DT> it is possible that there are still bugs
23:03 < marvin24_DT> the driver is running here only since 1week or so
23:03 < marvin24_DT> before it didn't connect at all
23:04 < saraedum> which version are you using then?
23:12 < marvin24_DT> version from late march
23:13 < marvin24_DT> +experimental
23:13 < marvin24_DT> seems that's some more common problem with wifi
23:13 < marvin24_DT> (not driver related)
23:13 < marvin24_DT> found by googling
23:13 < marvin24_DT> you can try "iwconfig wlan0 power off"
23:14 < marvin24_DT> or try a uncrypted network
23:14 < saraedum> it's unencrypted. ok. I will try the power management thing.
23:15 < marvin24_DT> ssid hidden?
23:15 < saraedum> no.
23:15 < marvin24_DT> maybe also you can try to change the channel
23:15 < marvin24_DT> check you neighbors
23:16 < marvin24_DT> via iwlist
23:16 < phh> this problem is just the usual one ...
23:16 < phh> "just" no TX
23:17 < saraedum> no TX?
23:18 < phh> yeah, no packet is actually sent
23:18 < marvin24_DT> or maybe with too low power
23:18 < marvin24_DT> tcpdump would show no response
23:19 < saraedum> so there is no usual fix for this?
23:19 < phh> saraedum: no :/
23:22 < saraedum> anything I can do about it? some people got wifi working...what's the difference?
23:22 < marvin24_DT> I will test how "far" it works
23:22   <   client3424!~client342@84-72-70-35.dclient.hispeed.ch [Remote host closed the connection]
23:24 < saraedum> thanks. any help is very much appreciated.
23:26   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-192-222.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
23:26   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
23:26   <   tilmann!~t@g225121052.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
23:28   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
23:29 < marvin24_DT> saraedum: what is your ap signal level?
23:31 < marvin24_DT> in the outer end of my appartment I got -69db
23:31 < saraedum> -37 dBm (70/70)
23:31 < marvin24_DT> still stable connection
23:31 < marvin24_DT> that's full power
23:31 < saraedum> yes. I'm trying to build the other drivers mentioned in the wiki now. maybe that helps.
23:33   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-115-178.pools.arcor-ip.net
23:36   >>> marvin24_ac!~marvin24@g226136004.adsl.alicedsl.de
23:39   >>> fly-away!~fly@89.169.110.128
23:40 < fly-away> hi2all
23:41   >>> chrissbx!~chrissbx@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com
23:52 < chrissbx> How does the cpu of the AC100 compare to an Atom (for cpu intensive tasks, not video)?
23:53 < phh> on non floating point, one core @ 1GHz is as fast as one atom @ 1.6
23:53 < chrissbx> ah nice; hm but the Tegra *does* have floating point, no?
23:53 < phh> yes
23:53 < phh> but it sucks.
23:54 < chrissbx> aha
23:54 < Unseen2> *boots an ac100 and an nc-10*
23:54 < phh> chrissbx: because tegra considers that floating point is useless as they have a dedicated dsp
23:54 < chrissbx> Well fpu performance shouldn't matter for me. As long as it's still faster than software fp.
23:54 < phh> yeah it is
23:55 < marvin24_ac> I heard that tegra doesn't support neon because vfp is fast enough
23:56 < marvin24_ac> is there a floating power benchmark?
23:56 < phh> well, neon is not just floating point actually
23:56 < marvin24_ac> yeah, more like sse
23:57   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-76-163.bb.netbynet.ru [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:58 < Unseen2> Unscientific benchmark (compressing 1000MiB of /dev/zero with gzip -9): AC100 52 seconds, Atom (first-gen 1.60GHz) 38 seconds
23:58 < marvin24_ac> well, first gen atom = latest gen atom
23:59 < Unseen2> The newer ones are 0.06MHz faster because they're running on a faster FSB ;)
23:59 < phh> Unseen2: hum, this benchmark is not as good as the one I did for ac100 it seems
23:59 < phh> but still, cortex-A9 is faster than atom per-MHz :p
23:59 < phh> Unseen2: try with bc ?
--- Day changed Mon Apr 04 2011
00:00 < phh> like sqrt(2) with 10k digits
00:00 < phh> that's the benchmark I did
00:00 < phh> atom was slower than ac100 on that
00:00 < Unseen2> Not now, I've shut down the systems already...
00:00 < phh> pffff
00:00 < phh> atom heats too much ? :D
00:01 < chrissbx> what user time does this give?:  time perl -we 'for(1..1e7){$z++}print"$z\n"'
00:01 < Unseen2> No, just not enough desk space for that many laptops
00:03 < phh> chrissbx: that's a terminal benchmark -_-'
00:03 < Unseen2> It shouldn't be, the print is not in the loop
00:03 < chrissbx> yeah, I'm assuming you're running Debian/Ubuntu or so
00:03 < marvin24_ac> gives 4s
00:04 < phh> Unseen2: ah sorry
00:04 < phh> wI misread
00:04 < marvin24_ac> problem is that pm is first slow and scales up during bench
00:05 < phh> yeah
00:06 < marvin24_ac> anyway, mmc is so slow, that the cpu doesn't matter much
00:06 < marvin24_ac> (in real life)
00:06 < phh> oO
00:06 < phh> it's not specifically slow
00:06 < chrissbx> Well once cached in RAM, mmc should be irrelevant.
00:06 < chrissbx> Only the second test run will be sensible.
00:06 < marvin24_ac> for bench
00:07 < marvin24_ac> for real apps mmc is biggest problem
00:08 < phh> marvin24_ac: seriously, when ?
00:08 < phh> I mean, which use ?
00:08 < marvin24_ac> loading some app
00:08 < phh> you're loading apps the whole time ?
00:08 < phh> funny
00:09 < marvin24_ac> but that's most annoying
00:09 < phh> ok.
00:09 < phh> I load apps something like one time in two days
00:09 < phh> and it's 5s de load apps
00:09 < phh> yeah, it's annoying.
00:09 < phh> my init script with poor timings is way more annoying :D
00:10 < chrissbx> Are you using the compressed (in-memory) swap patch to get more out of the 512MB RAM?
00:10 < phh> chrissbx: no, I wouldn't have thought so, but it works fine without them
00:11 < phh> it*
00:11 < phh> whatever.
00:11 < marvin24_ac> yeah, objectiv benchmarks are useless, subjectiv real use is same
00:12 < phh> chrissbx: i'm always running a terminal + a browser (chromium, unless package is broken *ahum*) + irc client (quassel client, Qt, so it means yet another toolkit to load in memory)
00:12 < phh> and it's fine
00:14 < chrissbx> Well, I intend to do development on it, running several instances of emacs, about 20 terminals, browser, the app itself which takes about 100MB.
00:15 < chrissbx> I expect I'll need swap, and a slow mmc spoils this, so I'm hoping for either the compressed swap patch or for a hardware hack to increase RAM.
00:15 < phh> ah yeah. 100MB is quite a lot for an app oO
00:16 < phh> and emacs... well yeah I must say I don't like running many OSes at the same time ;) that makes it use less ram
00:16 < chrissbx> (Or I'll buy an Adam instead, which has 1GB of RAM, but I'm not sure what I'll do for a nice portable keyboard)
00:17 < chrissbx> I'm still hoping for a nice occasion to get one of these cheap (like 200 USD), from someone who's disappointed with the android on it.
00:17 < chrissbx> (one of the AC100)
00:17 < saraedum> regarding my wifi problems... the other drivers didn't make a difference (ok, didn't manage to build toshiba's drivers). Any suggestions what I could try now?
00:19 < phh> chrissbx: for increasing ram, there is the possibility to perhaps use the mini-pci-e, but noone knows wether it actually works
00:20 < chrissbx> Hm, RAM over PCI-e, is that possible?
00:20 < phh> why not ?
00:20 < phh> or SSD if you prefer :p
00:21 < phh> a 300MB/s SSD would be enough.
00:21 < Unseen2> A graphics card is basically a lot of ram (accessible over PCIe) plus a specialized CPU
00:21 < chrissbx> Yeah I mean RAM disk maybe, but not normal direct RAM access I guess.
00:22 < Unseen2> Swapping to that would still be faster than swapping to MMC/SD though
00:22 < chrissbx> Unseen2: yes but that RAM isn't directly accessible by the CPU, is it?
00:22 < phh> chrissbx: it is
00:22 < phh> chrissbx: lspci -vv, you'll see the memory mappings
00:22 < phh> if you unload video driver, you can map this memory to anything
00:22   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@g226136004.adsl.alicedsl.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:22 < phh> with physmtd for instance
00:25 < chrissbx> hm. I guess that needs practical confirmation; anyway at least SSD may sound interesting; but is there actually space to put anything or is the mini-pci-e not even soldered to a connector?..
00:26 < chrissbx> What's with the wifi, is that a card or on-board?
00:27 < phh> it's usb
00:27 < phh> 3G is mini-pci-e though
00:27 < phh> so only 3G models have mini-pci-e connector
00:27 < phh> and it uses USB part of mini-pci-e, so we still don't know if pci-e part is actually wired
00:27 < chrissbx> aha
00:28   <   marvin24_ac!~marvin24@g226136004.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:29 < saraedum> marvin24_ac: Since wifi seems to be working for you...what did you mean when you said that you're using "+experimental"? i.e. could I get lucky by just trying some kernels from the gitorious repository that are a few weeks old?
00:32   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:36   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-115-178.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
00:36   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
00:40   >>> ZoX_!d9805104@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.128.81.4
00:56   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-244.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
00:57   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-214-193.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
00:57 < woglinde_> saraedum what kernel are you using?
00:58 < saraedum> .37 from the gitorious repository (as of yesterday)
01:02 < saraedum> woglinde_ the marvin24s branch
01:05   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
01:06   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
01:06 < woglinde_> okay
01:06 < woglinde_> the driver is from rt2x00 git
01:07 < woglinde_> saraedum is iw wlan0 scan working?
01:08 < saraedum> iwlist scanning works
01:08   ~ Zaek is now Isakk
01:08 < woglinde_> okay
01:09 < woglinde_> than it should work at some point with wpa_supplicant to
01:09 < woglinde_> did you try to chnage the postion?
01:09 < phh> unless the TX RF power isn't enabled.
01:09   <   lenios__!~lenios@2a01:e35:2e16:6810:21f:e2ff:fe59:88d1 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:09 < saraedum> yes I tried. scannig from wpa_supplicant worked - it just wouldn't associate.
01:10 < woglinde_> saraedum hm you could try to disable powermanagement too
01:10 < saraedum> I tried that.
01:10 < woglinde_> that might help a bit
01:10 < woglinde_> okay
01:10 < woglinde_> hm
01:10   <   farmboy!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
01:13 < saraedum> phh: just to make sure that I understand correctly, this TX RF power is some driver issue and most probably nothing that could be solved from userspace.
01:13 < saraedum> iwconfig tells me that txpower is at 20dBm but that doesn't seem to be true then
01:14 < woglinde_> not really
01:14 < markit> it might be true,..
01:15 < woglinde_> saraedum hm I suggest install crda and iw
01:15 < woglinde_> maybee you have a wrong profile and so the ap might drop your connection
01:15 < markit> i didn`t try on ac100, but normally rt2x00 drivers can change txpower of rt3070
01:15 < woglinde_> but thats only a wild guess too
01:15   ~ Isakk is now PeterPan
01:16 < woglinde_> or you might need a newer wpa_supplicant
01:16 < woglinde_> try the one from natty if deps allow it
01:16 < saraedum> wow. after hours of trying to associate it managed to associate just now.
01:16 < woglinde_> or recompile it from the natt deb-src
01:16 < woglinde_> yes
01:16 < woglinde_> as I said
01:17 < markit> imho one problem of "all" rt3070 drivers is they are "slow"
01:17 < markit> u should wait between sending them commands, and u have to send them in correct order,..
01:18 < markit> usually other tools fail because they asume drivers will remember values they can not use at the moment, as they are still scanning/initialising whatever,..
01:18 < markit> but with this drivers it will just fail*g,..
01:19   <   ZoX_!d9805104@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.128.81.4 [Quit: Page closed]
01:19   ~ PeterPan is now Isakk
01:20 < woglinde_> markit hm yeah and all the tries of the rt2xx guys didnt help so far
01:20 < woglinde_> okay time to sleep now
01:20   <   woglinde_!~heinold@f052067031.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
01:21 < markit> hmm i have some problems with lid-close,..
01:21 < markit> infact after patching it to use the correct keycode for my system it works,..
01:21 < saraedum> ok. thanks everybody. I'll keep on trying ;)
01:21 < markit> but only for standby
01:22 < markit> anyone using its "backlight/turn off screen" feature
01:23 < markit> ?
01:24 < markit> with lid-switch i meant: http://mt4.es/ac100/lid-switch/
01:25   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
01:28   <   br3schweiz!~kvirc@211-184.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/]
01:33   <   fly-away!~fly@89.169.110.128 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:57   <   markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Quit: Leaving]
02:10   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Remote host closed the connection]
02:16   <   DasDGW!bc6e5b02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.110.91.2 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
02:22   >>> dave!~dave@87.115.88.34
02:23   ~ dave is now Guest44225
02:30   <   Guest44225!~dave@87.115.88.34 ["Konversation terminated!"]
02:33   >>> zod_!~zod@smitty.knid.net
02:33   >>> justicelawetc!~dave@87.115.88.34
02:34   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
02:34   >>> guiguid_!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net
02:34   >>> lenios__!~lenios@APuteaux-153-1-7-192.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr
02:35   >>> dario_!~dario@domina.zerties.org
02:35   *.net <-\-> *.split: [zod, harms1, lenios_, guiguid, scoopr, dario]
02:36 < justicelawetc> can anyone help with a non-booting AC100 please ?
02:38   >>> [scoopr]
02:50   <   [df]!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
02:51   <   saraedum!~jule@91.216.93.44 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
02:52   >>> saraedum_!~jule@91.216.93.44
02:52   >>> [df]_!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa
02:53   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
02:53   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
02:57   <   justicelawetc!~dave@87.115.88.34 ["Konversation terminated!"]
03:02   <   Eruquen!Eruquen@server3.raumopol.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
03:04   <   SerzZ!serzz@xob.kapsi.fi [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
03:04   >>> Eruquen!Eruquen@server3.raumopol.de
03:04   >>> SerzZ_!serzz@xob.kapsi.fi
03:04   <   gildean!gildean@salaliitto.com [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
03:04   >>> gildean!gildean@salaliitto.com
03:04 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/logs/
03:04 >>> Topic set by phh ~quassel@137.194.15.151 [Tue Mar 29 19:31:41 2011]
03:04 [Users #ac100]
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03:04   <   gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC6AFDB.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
03:05   >>> gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC6AFDB.dip.t-dialin.net
03:09   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
03:35   <   Isakk!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
03:36   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
03:54   <   topi`!foobar@host-62-220-235-64.fonet.fi [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
03:54   >>> topi`!foobar@host-62-220-235-64.fonet.fi
04:02   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
04:14   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
04:45   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
05:25   >>> a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
05:27   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
05:55   *.net <-\-> *.split: [jjz, Unseen2, bkero, dario_, chrisq, DerGuteMoritz, armin76, lanthan, CryptoKid]
05:55   >>> [Unseen2]
05:55   >>> [chrisq]
05:58   >>> bkero!~bkero2@horace.dionysian-mind.net
05:58   >>> CryptoKid!marco@dyn2-212-50-134-127.psoas.suomi.net
06:00   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7D519.dip.t-dialin.net
06:00   >>> jjz!~user@ip-89-176-113-41.net.upcbroadband.cz
06:00   >>> armin76!~armin@192.25.206.3
06:00   >>> dario_!~dario@domina.zerties.org
06:01   *.net <-\-> *.split: [arune, skaet, Unseen2, kenws, artemmakhutov]
06:01   >>> [Unseen2, artemmakhutov, skaet, kenws, arune]
06:03   <   vvid_work!~vi_vid@gate.gaijin.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
06:04   >>> DerGuteMoritz!~syn@85.88.17.198
06:17   <   minimec!~minimec@77-56-254-17.dclient.hispeed.ch [Quit: Lost terminal]
06:27   >>> TTequila_!~tequila@sub.pkg.fr
06:32   <   Tequila!~tequila@sub.pkg.fr [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
07:04   >>> kenws_!~ken@elliptique.net
07:06   >>> arune_!~arune@h-163-226.A155.priv.bahnhof.se
07:06   >>> skaet_!~kate.stew@99-191-111-134.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net
07:07   >>> Unseen2a!snowcat@snowcat.de
07:08   *.net <-\-> *.split: [arune, skaet, Unseen2, kenws, artemmakhutov]
07:08   ~ Unseen2a is now Unseen2
07:14   >>> [artemmakhutov]
07:37   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
07:50   <   armin76!~armin@192.25.206.3 [Changing host]
07:50   >>> armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76
08:49   >>> Snark_!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
08:49   ~ Snark_ is now Snark
08:55   <   bkero!~bkero2@horace.dionysian-mind.net [Changing host]
08:55   >>> bkero!~bkero2@osuosl/staff/bkero
09:05   >>> lanthan_!~ze@p54B7D00F.dip.t-dialin.net
09:10   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7D519.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
09:10   >>> antonl!~anton@213.33.220.118
09:24   >>> farmboy!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241
09:32   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
09:41   <   gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC6AFDB.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
10:01   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
10:01   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Excess Flood]
10:01   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
10:05   >>> acidburnz!~acidburnz@LMontsouris-156-25-30-88.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr
10:05   >>> ZoX_!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34
10:13   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
10:13   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Client Quit]
10:17   >>> justicelawetc!~dave@87.115.88.34
10:18   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
10:19 < justicelawetc>  can anyone help with a non-booting AC100 please ?
10:22 < arune_> justicelawetc: what is the problem?
10:27 < justicelawetc> tried to convert to dual boot (on 2.2), didn't work, restored all partitions from backup, hangs at toshiba/tegra screen
10:29   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
10:31 < justicelawetc> be back in a bit got doctors visit
10:40   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
10:45   <   artemmakhutov!~artem@2001:6f8:115f:0:224:d7ff:fe2e:9974 []
10:47   >>> gcst_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-oliigcjtlnvbccqy
10:55   <   lanthan_!~ze@p54B7D00F.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat]
11:00   <   a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
11:03   >>> a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
11:08   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-unat.cambridge.arm.com
11:10   <   a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
11:10   >>> a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
11:15   >>> ggrandou_!~quassel@vps11092.ovh.net
11:15   >>> Isakk!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
11:18   >>> antonl1!~anton@213.33.220.118
11:20   >>> bkero_!~bkero2@horace.dionysian-mind.net
11:21   >>> vegai_!v@discord.fi
11:23   >>> [guiguid_]
11:23   *.net <-\-> *.split: [antonl, Tactilofan, caban, ggrandou, Zaek, bkero, emmibox, vegai, ogra_]
11:23   >>> [emmibox]
11:23   >>> [caban]
11:24 < justicelawetc> need more detail ?
11:26   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:30 < Snark> justicelawetc, I don't know how to help you, but I notice you didn't say which model you have (for example mine is AC100-114)
11:32 < justicelawetc> model is AC100-10U
11:33 < Snark> did you check the forums?
11:35 < phh> justicelawetc: restore again partition 2/3/4
11:35 < phh> when I reflash one of those, it always black screen
11:35 < phh> but I retry changing some little stuff
11:35 < phh> and it ends up working
11:36 < justicelawetc> 3 times so far
11:36 < justicelawetc> changing little stuff ?
11:36 < phh> one single nvflash cmd instead of 4
11:36 < phh> powering off with removing the battery rather than the button
11:37 < phh> booting then connect usb, or connect usb then booting
11:38 < justicelawetc> a - no, b - yes, c - yes
11:38 < justicelawetc> have checked wep
11:38 < justicelawetc> ignore
11:39 < phh> ah and also, sometimes rebooting two or three times after flashing
11:41 < justicelawetc> wetpaint, gudinna, developer.nvidia.com
11:42 < justicelawetc> d
11:42 < phh> ?
11:42 < justicelawetc> also, sometimes rebooting two or three times after flashing (option d :) )
11:44 < justicelawetc> phh, I see your latest stuff predates 2.2
11:44 < phh> yes
11:44 < justicelawetc> have you tried it on an updated machine ?
11:44 < phh> yes, and it doesn't work
11:45 < justicelawetc> but it doesn't usually cause the issue I have ?
11:45   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
11:45 < phh> ah wait
11:46 < phh> it's toshiba screen -_-'
11:46 < phh> not black screen
11:46 < justicelawetc> yes
11:46 < phh> yeah well just restore the partition 5 and 6 ...
11:46 < phh> and yes, when it doesn't work, it does what happens to you
11:47 < justicelawetc> tried that first :(
11:48 < justicelawetc> I have the feeling Im missing something obvious
11:48 < phh> adb logcat ?
11:48 < justicelawetc> at the tosh screen ?
11:49 < phh> yes
11:49 < justicelawetc> ...
11:49 < phh> what ?
11:49 < phh> I mean from your desktop if that's what you're wondering
12:01   >>> morph_!~morph@91.220.65.3
12:03   >>> gipIt!~Miranda@host217-137-static.43-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
12:03 < gipIt> hello
12:04 < gipIt> any news on Android 2.2 and ubuntu???
12:04 < phh> yeah, i'm on vacation next week
12:05   >>> Snark_!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
12:05 < marvin24> http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/can-tegra-run-win-8-its-support-arm-cpu
12:05 < marvin24> :D
12:05 < phh> lol
12:05 < marvin24> the forum is a good source of fun stuff
12:05   >>> [df]!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa
12:07 < muromec> lol
12:07   <   bkero_!~bkero2@horace.dionysian-mind.net [Changing host]
12:07   >>> bkero_!~bkero2@osuosl/staff/bkero
12:08 < justicelawetc> sorry about long pause
12:08 < justicelawetc> adb devices can not see the AC100
12:09 < phh> dmesg .
12:09 < phh> ?
12:10   ~ bkero_ is now bkero
12:12   *.net <-\-> *.split: [Snark, [df]_]
12:13   <   gipIt!~Miranda@host217-137-static.43-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
12:17   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-unat.cambridge.arm.com [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
12:20 < justicelawetc> scsi 128:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TOSHIBA  AC_AND_AZ        0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
12:21 < phh> ok so kernel works
12:22 < phh> so restore everything between part 7 and 13, and try recovery boot
12:22 < phh> (between/including/)
12:22 < justicelawetc> again ?
12:22 < phh> well yeah
12:23 < phh> perhaps first try recovery boot
12:23 < justicelawetc> back shortly ....
12:27 < justicelawetc> got two pics, android + triangle, android + open box both with progress bar
12:27 < justicelawetc> followed by auto reboot & back to tosh+tegra
12:28 < phh> ok, so rerestore.
12:28 < justicelawetc> ok ...
12:30   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com
12:36   >>> xzerth!~vasya@213.131.9.228
12:38   >>> Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
12:39   >>> vvid_work!~vi_vid@gate.gaijin.ru
12:40   *.net <-\-> *.split: [NickaNicka, phh, mornfall, SerzZ_, lepanen, chrisq, caban]
12:41   >>> [caban]
12:43   >>> SerzZ!serzz@xob.kapsi.fi
12:43   >>> NickaNicka!jensei@propelli.cop.fi
12:44   >>> chrisq!chrisq@parrot.kotelett.no
12:44   >>> lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net
12:45   >>> phh_!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
12:45   >>> mornfall!~mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall
12:45 < justicelawetc> just waiting for P12
12:47 < justicelawetc> I know tosh dont like their users fiddling, but is it known what they have
12:47 < justicelawetc> done to make it so hard to restore ?
12:47   <   xzerth!~vasya@213.131.9.228 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
12:52 < justicelawetc> all restored, anything else before I do recovery boot please ?
12:53   >>> lenios_!~lenios@APuteaux-153-1-3-217.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr
12:56   <   lenios__!~lenios@APuteaux-153-1-7-192.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
12:56   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
12:58   <   Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
13:05   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
13:18   >>> arune!~arune@h-163-226.A155.priv.bahnhof.se
13:19   >>> huuu!~user@ip-89-176-113-41.net.upcbroadband.cz
13:20   <   armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76 [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:20   <   arune_!~arune@h-163-226.A155.priv.bahnhof.se [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:20   <   jjz!~user@ip-89-176-113-41.net.upcbroadband.cz [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:20   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:20   >>> caban!test@77.94.4.61
13:21   >>> armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76
13:30   <   dario_!~dario@domina.zerties.org [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
13:30   >>> dario!~dario@domina.zerties.org
13:30 < justicelawetc> ping phh
13:33   <   farmboy!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
13:35   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
13:35   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:36   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
13:36   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
13:36   >>> farmboy!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241
13:55   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:00   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Quit: Ex-Chat]
14:00   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
14:09   >>> Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@90.38.132.42
14:12   >>> ggrandou!~quassel@vps11092.ovh.net
14:12   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-214-193.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:12   <   ggrandou_!~quassel@vps11092.ovh.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:13   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
14:13   <   caban!test@77.94.4.61 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:13   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-214-193.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
14:19   ~ vegai_ is now vegai
14:20   >>> Belna!~Thomas@DSL01.212.114.252.242.ip-pool.NEFkom.net
14:21   ~ Belna is now tweber
14:21   ~ tweber is now thweber
14:31   <   farmboy!c13c53f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.60.83.241 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:32   <   Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@90.38.132.42 [Quit: Quitte]
14:34 < justicelawetc> no improvement :(
14:35 < justicelawetc> is it worth trying the 2.1 backup I made ?
14:36   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
14:37   >>> armin_76!~armin@beluga.ia64.dev.gentoo.org
14:37   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:37   <   armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:37   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
14:41 < arune> yes
14:41 < arune> are you using rawdevice?
14:50 < justicelawetc> last restore done using Ac100-toolkit
14:59   <   gcst_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-oliigcjtlnvbccqy [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
15:04   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
15:12   >>> gcst_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-uvzafegazqgajewx
15:28   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.45.239
15:29   >>> woglinde!~henning@p5DDC0808.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
15:29 < woglinde> orga Ping
15:30 < woglinde> ups ogra ping
15:30 < ogra_> nearly right to highlight ,e
15:30 < ogra_> :)
15:30 < ogra_> whats up ?
15:31 < woglinde> how do I include selfmade start icons in natty
15:31 < woglinde> want to start vbox via it
15:31 < ogra_> start icons ?
15:31 < woglinde> or command
15:31 < woglinde> via the left menubar
15:31   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
15:31 < ogra_> you want a favorites entry ?
15:32 < woglinde> yes
15:32 < woglinde> what ever is is now called
15:32   <   gcst_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-uvzafegazqgajewx [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
15:32 < woglinde> ah found it myswlf
15:33 < ogra_> its a gconf key
15:33   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:33 < woglinde> ure
15:33 < woglinde> sure
15:33 < woglinde> buts there is gui too
15:34 < ogra_> gui ?
15:34 < woglinde> hm systemsettings/mainmenu
15:35 < ogra_> ah, i dont think that affects unity
15:35 < ogra_> st least not the launcher
15:35 < ogra_> *at least
15:35 < woglinde> hm okay
15:36 < ogra_> in gconf-editor use /desktop/unity/launcher/favorites
15:36 < ogra_> there is a key called favorites_list and every entry in there needs an entry for the .dektop file
15:37 < ogra_> dont ask me how to set that system wide for unity, i only know how to do it for unity-2d (which is different)
15:39 < woglinde> hm there is no such a key
15:44   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
15:44 < ogra_> woglinde, well, then ask in #ayatana how the favorites entries are handled
15:45   >>> gcst_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-ztkvwhoizfmnnnrn
15:52   ~ armin_76 is now armin76
15:52   <   armin76!~armin@beluga.ia64.dev.gentoo.org [Changing host]
15:52   >>> armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76
15:54   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
15:56   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
16:02   <   Snark_!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
16:02   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:03   >>> Snark_!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
16:09   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
16:10   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Remote host closed the connection]
16:14 < woglinde> ieeks now I found it
16:17   *.net <-\-> *.split: [markit, armin76]
16:20 < ogra_> where was it ?
16:21   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
16:21   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
16:23   >>> [armin76]
16:32   <   antonl1!~anton@213.33.220.118 []
16:32   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
16:33   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Client Quit]
16:36   >>> dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz
16:38   <   morph_!~morph@91.220.65.3 [Quit: Leaving]
16:40 < dayweek> hello guys! I managed to install ubuntu on my ac100 but I have a problem with wifi connection. Can't see any network. I have 10N type - without bluetooth and without 3g.  I tried the trick with echo 1 > /etc/test_program/wifi3g but only LED goes on.
16:40 < dayweek> any tips appreciated:) thank you
16:42   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-220-163-52.bb.netbynet.ru
16:44 < jeremiah> dayweek: Did you take a look at the logs?
16:44 < jeremiah> Like /var/log/syslog?
16:45 < jeremiah> That might  have some infor for you.
16:45 < woglinde> ogra hm you can as always make a desktop icon
16:45 < woglinde> and than drag and drop it to the launcher
16:45 < woglinde> but desktop-icon is okay too
16:45 < jeremiah> dayweek: BTW, what did you use to flash your AC 100?
16:46 < woglinde> dayweek try iwconfig wlan0 scan
16:46 < woglinde> dayweek and yes its known that there are problems with wpa_supplicant
16:46 < ogra_> woglinde, well, there is a way to just add the appname to a gconf list
16:46 < woglinde> even with the latest rt2x00 git driver
16:46 < dayweek> I repacked boot.img from here http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/2011-01-16/
16:46 < woglinde> ogra I found no key
16:46 < jeremiah> dayweek: Ah okay.
16:46 < woglinde> ogra but as I found a way
16:46 < ogra_> i just dont know how in case of unity, i know its there for unity-2d
16:47 < jeremiah> I'll test that out since the L4T package is gone from NVidia's site.
16:47 < ogra_> but as i said, #ayatana will know
16:47 < dayweek> jeremiah: and installed ubuntu on partition 6
16:47 < jeremiah> dayweek: Did you just write the boot.img, kernel and modules to an SD Card?
16:48 < jeremiah> B  ]]
16:48 < jeremiah> oops
16:48 < jeremiah> Sorry
16:48 < dayweek> jeremiah: no, I haven't used any custom modules and kernel.
16:49 < jeremiah> Looks like there is a README file, I think I'll read it. :-)
16:49 < dayweek> jeremiah: http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/2011-01-16/kernel.txt
16:50 < dayweek> jeremiah: should I follow this?
16:53 < jeremiah> dayweek: I'm not really sure. I'll take a look
16:53 < dayweek> jeremiah: unfortunately I have no 4GB SD card. only 1GB one. so I copied ubuntu via sharing in android.
16:53 < jeremiah> dayweek: Did you look at this: http://kotelett.no/ac100/README/
16:53   ~ zod_ is now zod
16:54 < dayweek> jeremiah: basically I followed http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/phh-install.txt
16:56 < dayweek> jeremiah: yes, I know that page. But I followed phh's way.
16:58 < jeremiah> dayweek: You'll want to make sure that your MD5SUMS match then
16:59 < dayweek> jeremiah: I did not check that:)
17:05   *.net <-\-> *.split: [[df], marvin24]
17:06 < jeremiah> Because if your SD card is smaller than the data, all the data will not be written to the card. (Obviously.)
17:07   ~ skaet_ is now skaet
17:07   jeremiah reads
17:07 < dayweek> jeremiah: and what about the modules? how can I install them?
17:08   >>> [[df], marvin24]
17:09 < dayweek> jeremiah: do I need the SD card? Can I just copy modules via android file sharing (described in http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/phh-install.txt) ?
17:12 < jeremiah> dayweek: I thought you managed to install Ubuntu on the AC 100?
17:12 < jeremiah> And you were only having wifi problems?
17:13 < jeremiah> But you want to install Ubuntu on the AC?
17:14 < dayweek> jeremiah: yes, I did. that's right
17:14 < dayweek> jeremiah: yes, because of the modules?
17:14 < gildean> the modules must be extracted to ac100's root
17:14 < dayweek> jeremiah: sorry, I am not so experienced at linux
17:14 < dayweek> gildean: and then?
17:15 < gildean> hmm, if you have problems, i made this how-to for phh's install: http://ac100.tunk.org/wiki/phh
17:15 < gildean> should contain all the steps to get ubuntu installed and setting of suspend etc.
17:16 < gildean> you can also use the same how-to for internal install
17:19   <   thweber!~Thomas@DSL01.212.114.252.242.ip-pool.NEFkom.net [Quit: bye]
17:20   *.net <-\-> *.split: [[df], marvin24]
17:20 < jeremiah> Following that page: http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/phh-install.txt
17:20   <   vvid_work!~vi_vid@gate.gaijin.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:20 < jeremiah> It states: A notification will appear in the upper left part of the screen, where you'll be able to enable the file sharing.
17:20 < jeremiah> Which modules? The Linux kernel modules?
17:20   >>> vvid_work!~vi_vid@gate.gaijin.ru
17:20 < jeremiah> Are you sure you didn't install them?
17:20 < jeremiah> Really weird that my mini USB cable doesn't show up on either machine.
17:20   >>> [[df], marvin24]
17:21 < dayweek> gildean: awesome! so instead using nilfs tools and SD card I can use android file sharing (in your howto)
17:21 < dayweek> Thank you gildean and jeremiah
17:21 < justicelawetc> and does this work with a 2.2 machine please ?
17:21 < gildean> justicelawetc: not atm
17:22 < gildean> you have to downgrade
17:22 < jeremiah> justicelawetc: Well, ANdroid doesn't seem to pop up a "sharing" dialog on 2.1
17:22 < gildean> by flashing
17:22 < gildean> jeremiah: did you format ac100 part14 earlier and disconnect it after the format?
17:22 < justicelawetc> you guessing, or you tried it ?
17:23 < gildean> if so, android won't recognize the partition
17:24 < gildean> justicelawetc: we have tested it, 2.2 bootloader in incompatable atm with our boot.img
17:25 < gildean> justicelawetc: you can get backups of 2.1 here: http://ac100.tunk.org under downloads
17:25 < dayweek> jeremiah: yes, linux kernel modules. No, I did not copy them to ac100.
17:25 < gildean> at the minimum you have to flash parts 2 and 4
17:27 < gildean> (using rawwrite whit the exact sectornumbers for those parts)
17:27 < gildean> *with
17:29 < justicelawetc> did it brick your machine ?
17:29 < justicelawetc> at the other extreme ?
17:29 < justicelawetc> I have my own 2.1 & 2.2 backups, but I not convinced they are any good.
17:29   <   woglinde!~henning@p5DDC0808.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: zapp]
17:29   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
17:30 < justicelawetc> I been using AC100Toolkit to do the restores apart from P2 & P4 done with rawwrite
17:31 < gildean> afaik there is no simple way of bricking the ac100, not even with foobaring everything by nvflash
17:32 < justicelawetc> well I stuck wi mc on tosh+tegra screen
17:34 < justicelawetc> nvflash can talk to it & dmesg shows the microport mounting, & adb says no device
17:34 < gildean> use the how-to which i linked above to get a working ubuntu on your machine
17:35   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
17:36 < justicelawetc> ok, whats diff between nilfs & ext3 plse ?
17:36 < gildean> google it
17:36 < gildean> they're different filesystems
17:36 < justicelawetc> :)
17:37 < gildean> but basically, nilfs2 is faster on a ssd like the emmc the ac100 has
17:37 < gildean> or an sd-card
17:37 < gildean> or usb
17:37 < gildean> so in that way it's better suited for this job
17:38 < gildean> and it's a filesystem that makes continuous snapshots
17:38 < justicelawetc> ah thnx
17:38 < gildean> and nothing get overwritten
17:38 < gildean> so it needs some maintanance
17:38 < gildean> tou should read about it
17:38 < gildean> *you
17:39 < justicelawetc> I would like 2 b sure that my backups are ok by getting 2.2 running again first though
17:40 < justicelawetc> I will
17:43 < justicelawetc> Do you know what Tosh did to stop the earlier Ubuntu install working ?
17:44 < gildean> apparently at least changed machine type declaration
17:47   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.45.239 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:50 < justicelawetc> Any ideas on getting 2.2 up again please ?
17:51 < gildean> download the clean backup of 2.1 and 2.2 from the link i gave you earlier and flash them
17:51 < gildean> at least parts 2,4,5,6,7 and 8
17:52 < justicelawetc> I'm somewhat baffled as to what I changed that stopped it working in the first place
17:53 < gildean> you used rawwrite and doublechecked the partition table of your model for the command to be exact?
17:58 < justicelawetc> yes
17:58 < justicelawetc> Magnet: link ??
17:58 < gildean> yes, it's a magnet-uri
17:58 < gildean> you must have a torrent client that can open it
18:01 < justicelawetc> that I do...
18:03 < justicelawetc> does the AC100Manager use rawwrite ?
18:03 < gildean> no idea
18:04 < gildean> i would do it in a terminal by hand to be sure it's done right
18:05 < justicelawetc> I will, just thought u might know wi u having linked to it
18:06 < justicelawetc> Thanks for the help & your patience this aft
18:09   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
18:09 < justicelawetc> b 1.5 b 4 download is fin
18:26   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
18:26   >>> Quax!~quax@business-188-111-080-050.static.arcor-ip.net
18:26 < Quax> Anyone willing to hellp an ac100 noob with bricked device?
18:26 < Quax> *help
18:28   <   Quax!~quax@business-188-111-080-050.static.arcor-ip.net []
18:29   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Quit: Leaving.]
18:30   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-220-163-52.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
18:30   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-220-163-52.bb.netbynet.ru
18:31   >>> FluxFlux!~fluxflux@business-188-111-080-050.static.arcor-ip.net
18:31   <   FluxFlux!~fluxflux@business-188-111-080-050.static.arcor-ip.net [Client Quit]
18:33   <   acidburnz!~acidburnz@LMontsouris-156-25-30-88.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Leaving.]
18:35   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-220-163-52.bb.netbynet.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:38   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net []
18:40   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
18:52   <   gcst_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-ztkvwhoizfmnnnrn [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
19:02 < justicelawetc> just created & ran script to rawwrite partitions 2-8
19:03 < justicelawetc> success 2.2 up & running at sign on screen.
19:06   <   SerzZ!serzz@xob.kapsi.fi [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:06 < justicelawetc> Quax: I can try
19:14   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@e179221180.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:15   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
19:16   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@e179221180.adsl.alicedsl.de [Remote host closed the connection]
19:17   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
19:18   >>> tilmann!~t@g225121052.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:28   >>> tilmann1!~t@g231202229.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:29   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
19:30   <   tilmann!~t@g225121052.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
19:48   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
19:48   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
19:51   >>> Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
19:55 < marvin24_DT> saraedum_: I added some patches from upstream which are wifi related
20:04 < saraedum_> marvin24_DT, by upstream you mean the rt2x00 upstream?
20:09   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
20:12   ~ skaet is now skaet_afk
20:12 < marvin24_DT> saraedum_: yep
20:15 < dayweek> gildean: I got wifi working! thanks:)
20:23 < dario> i'm using lid-swqitch-daemon from mt4.es, how do i wake my ac100 from suspend ?
20:24   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-126-134.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:27 < arune> dayweek: did you get wifi working?
20:28 < dayweek> arune: yes
20:30 < arune> great
20:31 < arune> (ok, just read the complete backlog ;))
20:31   ~ Snark_ is now Snark
20:31 < Snark> re
20:31 < arune> dario: you have to fix rc.local (button)
20:32 < arune> dario: then you can wake with the power button
20:32 < arune> but the lid should also be used for waking
20:38   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@fw-lnat.cambridge.arm.com [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
20:41   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Quit: Leaving]
20:45 < dario> arune: thx, lid doesn't work so far, i'll go double-check rc.local
20:48   >>> halbth!~AndChat@78.247.116.131
20:53 < dario> ok, found it
20:58   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
20:59   >>> gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC6B327.dip.t-dialin.net
21:01   <   Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
21:02   >>> bgm80!~bgm80_3@host8-203-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
21:03 < bgm80> theres any 3G key usb supported by ac100 + android 2.2 ??
21:06   >>> bgm80_1!~bgm80_3@host109-203-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
21:06 < bgm80_1> theres any 3G key usb supported by ac100 + android 2.2 ??
21:07 < halbth> Hi, i'm looking for an boot image build by phh (plop.img). Does anybody know where I can find it?
21:07   ~ skaet_afk is now skaet
21:09   <   bgm80!~bgm80_3@host8-203-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:09 < bgm80_1> flop.img? from when available?
21:10 < halbth> plop.img
21:10 < halbth> That's an image to boot the internal ssd
21:13 < halbth> On a forum, i said that the internal ssd is not recognized by the latest boot.img of phh
21:14   <   guiguid_!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net [Remote host closed the connection]
21:14 < halbth> Phh answered the solution is an image (plop.img) which correct my problem
21:17   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
21:21   >>> bgm80_2!~bgm80_3@host184-204-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
21:23   <   bgm80_1!~bgm80_3@host109-203-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
21:32   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
21:32   >>> guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net
21:34 < guiguid> hi marvin !, no keyboard since your latest commit ...
21:49   >>> bgm80!~bgm80_3@host234-140-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
21:52   <   bgm80_2!~bgm80_3@host184-204-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:57   >>> bgm80_1!~bgm80_3@host84-189-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
22:00   <   bgm80!~bgm80_3@host234-140-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:09   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
22:18   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
22:23   <   bgm80_1!~bgm80_3@host84-189-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:29   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-126-134.pools.arcor-ip.net [Quit: steelrat]
22:32   <   dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
22:34   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-126-134.pools.arcor-ip.net
22:42   >>> dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz
22:50   >>> steelrat2!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-126-134.pools.arcor-ip.net
22:50   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-126-134.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
22:54   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:56   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
23:05   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:08   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
23:12   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
23:24 < gildean> halbth: check the log, i just uploaded plop.img somewhere yesterday
23:32   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
23:48   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
23:57 < marvin24_DT> guiguid: happens some time, still don't know why
23:57 < marvin24_DT> remove the battery, wait some time
23:57 < marvin24_DT> boot again
--- Day changed Tue Apr 05 2011
00:02   --- *.net <-\-> *.split ---
00:02              <<< [hectorvector, huuu, saraedum_, gg_, TTequila_, pfoetchen, svp, ojn, sraue, harms, +37 more]
00:02  >> [lenios, nicofs, guiguid, svp, tilmann1, vvid_work, armin76, emmibox, sraue, ogra_
00:02 +36 more]
00:07   <   steelrat2!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-126-134.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
00:07   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
00:11   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:12   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
00:16   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host78-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
00:19   <   tilmann1!~t@g231202229.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
00:22   <   dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
00:23   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:23   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
00:31   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Read error: Operation timed out]
00:34   >>> morph_!~morph@85.96.109.199
00:34   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
00:45   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
00:51   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Quit: leaving]
00:57   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-214-193.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
00:57   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-211-199.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
01:02   <   gcst_!~stenzel@p5DC6B327.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
01:21   <   morph_!~morph@85.96.109.199 [Quit: Leaving]
01:24   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
01:28   ~ phh_ is now phh
02:05   >>> onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254
02:20   <   a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
02:28   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
02:41   <   onestep!~onestep@91.215.11.254 [Remote host closed the connection]
02:45   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host78-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
02:45   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de
02:57   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
03:12   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
04:34   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
04:34   <   [df]!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Read error: Operation timed out]
04:40   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
04:43   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
04:48   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
04:53   >>> [df]!~df@163.8.187.81.in-addr.arpa
05:19   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
05:37   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
05:47   <   nicofs!~nicofs@WB20PC250.STUDFB.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
06:20   <   scoopr!scoopr@scoopr.fi [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
06:22   >>> scoopr!scoopr@scoopr.fi
06:24   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
07:36   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
08:17   <   skaet!~kate.stew@99-191-111-134.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:20   <   kenws_!~ken@elliptique.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
08:29   >>> kenws!~ken@elliptique.net
08:49   >>> kernel_flood!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79
08:49 < arune> hmm
08:49 < arune> arune@ac100:~$ sudo apt-get install nilfs-tools
08:49 < arune> E: Unable to locate package nilfs-tools
08:50 < arune> same with nilfs2-tools or nilfs*
08:50 < arune> ah, universe
08:52   >>> TTequila__!~tequila@sub.pkg.fr
08:52   <   TTequila_!~tequila@sub.pkg.fr [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
08:52   <   ac100peter!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
08:52   <   saraedum_!~jule@91.216.93.44 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
08:52   <   lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
08:53   >>> saraedum!~jule@91.216.93.44
09:02   >>> ac100peter!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de
09:13   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6B327.dip.t-dialin.net
09:14   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:20   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa []
09:34   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6B327.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
09:43   <   alter2|2!~kvirc@188.232.132.106 [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/]
09:45   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
10:12   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
10:12 < muromec> #ac100-ru
10:12 < muromec> join #ac100-ru
10:25   >>> Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
10:30   <   Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
10:34   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-aerrbkpifzurayrp
10:42   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
10:42   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Excess Flood]
10:42   >>> RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846
10:57 < arune> hm, Im trying to add swap with sudo swapon /mnt/1024Mb.swap, it returns:
10:57 < arune> swapon: /mnt/1024Mb.swap: swapon failed: Invalid argument
10:57 < arune> ls -l /mnt/
10:57 < arune> -rw------- 1 root root 1073741824 2011-04-05 09:49 1024Mb.swap
10:59 < arune> any idea?
11:01   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:02   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
11:37   *.net <-\-> *.split: [lenios, marvin24]
11:43 < jeremiah> arune: I wonder if you are allowed to have a "." in your file name, I doubt it.
11:45   >>> [lenios]
11:52   >>> zommi!~quassel@nat/ibm/x-ynglgyayjhzhixje
11:57   *.net <-\-> *.split: [RanX_XeroX, kernel_flood, scoopr, emmibox]
12:00   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
12:00   >>> [RanX_XeroX, kernel_flood, scoopr, emmibox]
12:01 < marvin24> he, no DOS here
12:02 < marvin24> but you need to do mkswap before
12:10 < scoopr> howdy
12:10 < scoopr> anything new?
12:32 < arune> marvin24: hm, I did, but maybe it failed:
12:32 < arune> arune@ac100:~$ sudo mkswap /mnt/1024Mb.swap
12:32 < arune> mkswap: /mnt/1024Mb.swap: warning: don't erase bootbits sectors on whole disk. Use -f to force.
12:32 < arune> Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1048572 KiB
12:32 < arune> no label, UUID=e00ea3a5-0c29-4bf6-8bf0-89cd7844e595
12:35 < marvin24> strange warning
12:35 < marvin24> what's the fs?
12:36 < marvin24> ah, maybe partition
12:39 < arune> nilfs
12:40 < arune> the file was created with dd
12:40   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
12:41 < marvin24> I did it on my fat partition for the internal mmc
12:41 < marvin24> maybe nilfs does not support swap
12:43 < arune> thanks for the suggestion, will try
12:43 < arune> ah, maybe problematic in phhs image, "Disk /dev/mmcblk0 doesn't contain a valid partition table"
12:45 < arune> aha, no problem to mount §/dev/mmcblk0p10 )
12:45 < arune> aha, no problem to mount /dev/mmcblk0p10 :)
12:59   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
13:13   >>> dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz
13:21   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
13:23   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
13:53   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
13:58   <   dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz [Remote host closed the connection]
14:08   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
14:09   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@89.247.181.26
14:18   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
14:20   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Read error: Operation timed out]
14:21   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
14:31   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:31   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
14:36   >>> lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
14:38 < arune> yay, I have swap, thanks marvin24
14:41   >>> dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz
15:17   >>> muromec_!~muromec@78.26.174.96
15:17   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 ["Leaving"]
15:35   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
15:37   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
15:37   >>> polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171
15:45   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
15:45   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Client Quit]
15:45   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
15:49 < polg> hello to all.  When I do "echo 1 > /proc/test_program/wifi3g" the shell stays locked and it doesn't return the command prompt. Any idea?
16:01   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
16:02   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
16:02   >>> uzloun!~uzloun@eduroam-160-217-137-128.eduroam.jcu.cz
16:04   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
16:04   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
16:05 < bmw> polg: echo 1 > /proc/test_program/wifi3g&
16:09   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
16:11 < arune> polg: ogras image or phhs?
16:11 < polg> arune: ogra image.
16:13 < arune> polg: ok, it did not return for me either
16:14 < polg> The bmw idea could work. I've to try it.
16:15 < polg> arune: after is your wifi working?
16:16 < arune> polg: I never got wifi working on ogras image, I gave in and tried phhs instead
16:18   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:19   <   muromec_!~muromec@78.26.174.96 ["Leaving"]
16:19 < polg> I'm not able to use the wifi with Android. It does not work also with the phh image and now I've installed the ogra one...
16:20 < arune> but if it does not work with android I wouldnt expect it to work in ubuntu??
16:21 < polg> arune: if I understood correctly they use all a different driver.
16:24 < polg> arune: I've also decided to move to Ubuntu because it looks for me more comfortable.
16:26 < arune> but if you buy a computer where some hardware does not work in the default install, why would you think its a driver problem and not a faulty hardware?
16:27 < arune> I would have returned my device if the wifi did not work in android
16:30 < polg> arune: it is a second hand one. I bought it already with the idea to install a full Linux on it (after I seen the phh and ogra experiment). Then I've discovered this problem.
16:32 < polg> And it is a strange problem, because the wifi only does not work with my router.
16:43 < phh> polg: try to "compress" the wifi chip
16:44 < phh> it's at the left of the microphone
16:46 < polg> phh: you mean I've to phisically press over the wifi chip?
16:46 < phh> yes
16:46 < phh> that helps for many people
16:46 < polg> could it be a contact problem?
16:47 < phh> yeah something like that
16:48 < polg> ok, I will try. Just a question for the future (If my wifi starts to works)...
16:49 < phh> but try that on android first.
16:49 < phh> on  non-android there are other bugs than just this hardware bug
16:50 < polg> Ok, I start with Android.
16:59   <   uzloun!~uzloun@eduroam-160-217-137-128.eduroam.jcu.cz [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
17:00   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
17:12   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
17:31   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
17:32   <   polg!51d005ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.208.5.171 []
17:42   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
17:46   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
17:51   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
17:56   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
18:01   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-aerrbkpifzurayrp [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
18:16   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
18:18   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net []
18:19   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
18:20   <   Hexxeh!~Hexxeh@carbon.hexxeh.net [Remote host closed the connection]
18:25   <   steelrat!~steelrat@89.247.181.26 [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
18:55   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
19:01   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
19:04   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225004083.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:06 < woglinde> marvin24 two three new pachtes in rt2x00 git
19:07 < woglinde> ups three
19:07   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6B327.dip.t-dialin.net
19:07   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:07   <   zommi!~quassel@nat/ibm/x-ynglgyayjhzhixje [Remote host closed the connection]
19:08   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
19:14   <   armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76 [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
19:16   >>> armin76!~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76
19:17   >>> tilmann!~t@g231202229.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:20   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
19:24   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B942.dip.t-dialin.net
19:25 < CryptoKid> hi, is the touchpad-bug that freezes ubuntu fixed in some new image?
19:27   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
19:28   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6B327.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
19:28   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
19:29   >>> tilmann1!~t@g231203161.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:30   <   tilmann!~t@g231202229.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:31   <   kernel_flood!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
19:33   <   gord!~gord@xvm-14-110.ghst.net [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
19:33   >>> pfoetche1!~pfoetchen@132.187.11.43
19:33   <   pfoetchen!~pfoetchen@winc043.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
19:34   >>> gord!~gord@xvm-14-110.ghst.net
19:35   >>> lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79
19:39   <   harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
19:39   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
19:43   >>> jeremiah_!~jeremiah@li150-237.members.linode.com
19:43   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
19:50   *.net <-\-> *.split: [Isakk, jeremiah]
20:13   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
20:19   <   lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20:21   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
20:21   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
20:22   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-112-089.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:34   <   RanX_XeroX!~RanX_Xero@unaffiliated/ranx-xerox/x-1471846 [Remote host closed the connection]
20:47   >>> bgm80!~bgm80_3@host199-201-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
20:47 < bgm80> hi ..theres a compatible usb modem 3g key for ac100+android2.2 ?
20:52 < bgm80> woglinde
20:52 < bgm80> phh
20:52   >>> uzloun!~uzloun@nat-20.starnet.cz
21:11 < Mifun> bgm80: nope
21:13 < woglinde> bgm when you recompile the 2.6.32 kernel yes
21:13 < woglinde> CryptoKid which touchpabdbug?
21:14 < CryptoKid> my ac100 freezes when using the touchpad
21:14 < CryptoKid> I heard it was some kernel bug
21:15 < woglinde> CryptoKid which kernel? I never heard of it
21:15   >>> bgm80_1!~bgm80_3@host50-207-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
21:15 < woglinde> ogra is using his ac100 since nov with ubuntu
21:15 < woglinde> without problems
21:15 < CryptoKid> .29 I think
21:15 < CryptoKid> has it with any image I'm tried
21:18   <   bgm80!~bgm80_3@host199-201-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
21:20   <   bgm80_1!~bgm80_3@host50-207-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Quit: Sto andando via]
21:32   >>> AlainS!~alain@xdsl-188-154-98-184.adslplus.ch
21:35   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g230116032.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:38   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225004083.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
21:41   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:47   ~ tilmann1 is now tilmann
21:50   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
21:55   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
21:59   <   uzloun!~uzloun@nat-20.starnet.cz [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
22:00   >>> gtom!~tom@floreal.gtom.eu
22:00 < gtom> hi
22:00   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
22:05 < woglinde_> hi marvin
22:07 < marvin24_DT> hi woglinde_
22:08 < woglinde_> marvin 3 new commits in rt2x00 git
22:08   <   guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net [Remote host closed the connection]
22:09   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
22:11 < marvin24_DT> mmh, looks like there are more to come
22:24   >>> minimec!~minimec@77-56-254-17.dclient.hispeed.ch
22:36   >>> stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-34-186.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr
22:41   <   dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:51   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru
22:55   >>> dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz
23:08   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
23:22   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g230116032.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
23:24   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
23:28   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
23:29   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
23:31 < steelrat> join xbmc-linux
23:31 < steelrat> forget it... please
23:36   <   stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-34-186.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
23:43   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
23:54   >>> ArtemMakhutov!~ArtemMakh@ip-95-223-212-10.unitymediagroup.de
--- Day changed Wed Apr 06 2011
00:00   >>> guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net
00:01   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
00:01   >>> stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-34-186.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr
00:04 < ArtemMakhutov> marvin24: I got the android kernel finally working on my folio :)
00:06   <   guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net [Quit: Bye !]
00:11 < marvin24_DT> ArtemMakhutov: oh, what did you changed?
00:11 < ArtemMakhutov> basically the framebuffer is disabled on android
00:12 < ArtemMakhutov> 1st I had to enabled CONFIG_VT and the framebuffer stuff
00:12 < ArtemMakhutov> then I could the the two pengiuns :)
00:13 < ArtemMakhutov> the I had to disable CONFIG_BT_BLUESLEEP   -- when this is enabled usb is not working
00:13 < ArtemMakhutov> and so I did not got any output on my serial port ...
00:14   <   stombi!~stombi@AToulouse-554-1-34-186.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
00:14 < ArtemMakhutov> now I am fighting with the SD / MMC stuff
00:14 < ArtemMakhutov> when using your paz default config the SD stuff gets detected correctly
00:14 < ArtemMakhutov> when using the android def config it gets not detected :(
00:15 < ArtemMakhutov> I am stating to get crazy, as I can not find the difference in the config ....
00:15   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-094-222-112-089.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
00:19 < ArtemMakhutov> http://pastebin.com/PNMibFFE
00:20 < ArtemMakhutov> http://pastebin.com/n1yVxVFt
00:21 < ArtemMakhutov> I am also wondering why the 1st pastebin shows the I2C errors. While my config does not have the I2C errors .... The I2C config is the same in kernel....
00:21   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
00:24 < ArtemMakhutov> huch, I copied to much in the 1st log
00:31   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
00:31 < marvin24_DT> the mmc needs the correct gpio
00:31 < marvin24_DT> you should start to create your own board file
00:31 < marvin24_DT> you can ignore the i2c mesg
00:31 < marvin24_DT> they come from probing (I guess lm90) which doesn't work well for now
00:33 < ArtemMakhutov> no, the mmc stuff works with the default harmony board file
00:33 < ArtemMakhutov> If I use YOUR config the MMC works - if I use the android default config I can not get MMC working
00:34 < marvin24_DT> you mean the config from .36 ?
00:34 < ArtemMakhutov> yes
00:34 < ArtemMakhutov> I have just modified the board-harmony.c to boot on the folio ...
00:34 < marvin24_DT> you can run diff on the configs and see what's different
00:34 < ArtemMakhutov> and you course selected harmony in kernel
00:35 < ArtemMakhutov> yes, there is a lot of different stuff ...
00:35 < ArtemMakhutov> most stuff is network and so on ...
00:36 < ArtemMakhutov> mmc config, I2C, USB etc. is all the same
00:36 < ArtemMakhutov> I am disabeling drivers right now ... I have the feeling that the kernel stops loding and some point while probing a driver ....
00:36   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:37 < ArtemMakhutov> like with the bluetooth driver which prevended the USB to initialize ...
00:37   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
00:39 < marvin24_DT> possible
00:39   marvin24_DT 's bed is calling
00:39 < marvin24_DT> good luck!
00:40   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
00:45   >>> hanno!~hanno@91-64-37-210-dynip.superkabel.de
00:46 < hanno> hi, I have some questions: I successfully installed gentoo on my ac100
00:46 < hanno> now I'd like to replace the kernel, is there any doc how this mkbootimg works?
00:46 < hanno> and is it possible to replace the bootimg from within the system and not via an external usb connection?
00:48   >>> IZ3GME!~yaaic@net-93-70-117-117.cust.dsl.vodafone.it
00:51 < muromec> hanno, you can use dd to update kernel
00:51 < muromec> mkbootimg source is also available
00:52 < hanno> muromec, I found the source, but no doc ;-)
00:52 < muromec> ah
00:52 < hanno> dd: where to write?
00:52 < hanno> to what target?
00:52 < hanno> mkbootimg wants a ramdisk and a kernel - is it possible to extract the ramdisk from an existing img?
00:53 < muromec> hanno, sure possible
00:53 < muromec> as its in image ;)
00:54 < muromec> with dd just write on mmcblk0 on certain offset
00:54 < hanno> oh, that sounds risky ;-)
00:54 < muromec> not really
00:54 < hanno> not on a specific partition?
00:55 < muromec> well, or specific partition
00:55 < muromec> dont know how crappy your kernel is
00:55   >>> woglinde!~woglinde@g225073031.adsl.alicedsl.de
00:55   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:56   <   dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz [Quit: Leaving]
00:56 < muromec> on my model i use  bs=4096 seek=2176
00:56   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-211-199.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
00:56 < muromec> and bs=4096 seek=896
00:56 < woglinde> hm natty works nice
00:57 < muromec> woglinde, debian sid too ;)
00:57 < woglinde> with chromium and html5 video
00:57 < woglinde> hi muromec
00:57 < muromec> hi
00:57 < woglinde> but now we need this blody audio codec
00:57   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-219-109.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
01:20 < ArtemMakhutov> wuahaha, the sd mmc is now also working on my folio :D
01:20 < woglinde> artem hm
01:20 < woglinde> is it connected diffrent than the ac100?
01:21 < ArtemMakhutov> no
01:21 < ArtemMakhutov> the problem is that it takes longer to initialize
01:21 < ArtemMakhutov> and the kernel gives up before ...
01:21 < woglinde> hm okay
01:22 < woglinde> did you try to update the bcm43 kernelmodul?
01:22 < woglinde> args
01:22 < woglinde> wasg athl6
01:22 < ArtemMakhutov> the folio has ar6003 wifi
01:22 < woglinde> ups ath6k
01:22 < woglinde> yes
01:22 < ArtemMakhutov> yes, I have tried it from compat wireless some time ago
01:23 < ArtemMakhutov> the wifi was working, but not bluetooth ...
01:23 < ArtemMakhutov> I will do some more tests after getting kernel 2.6.36 working ...
01:23 < woglinde> hm
01:23 < woglinde> we are at .37 now
01:24 < ArtemMakhutov> yes, but we need .36, as this is the requirement for android 3.0
01:24 < ArtemMakhutov> the lastest "android kernel" is still .36 :(
01:24 < woglinde> hm I think only android kernel stuff is needed
01:24 < ArtemMakhutov> yes, but I is not released seperatly as patch
01:25 < ArtemMakhutov> its included in the kernel released by google
01:25 < woglinde> hm yes
01:25 < ArtemMakhutov> and the kernel it self gets heavy modified ...
01:25 < ArtemMakhutov> so ... its easier just to use .36 :)
01:28 < woglinde> artem what driver do you need to port?
01:35   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
01:38   <   tilmann!~t@g231203161.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
01:41   <   IZ3GME!~yaaic@net-93-70-117-117.cust.dsl.vodafone.it [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
01:43 < ArtemMakhutov> ath6kl
01:43 < woglinde> none of the other sensors?
01:52 < ArtemMakhutov> I don't know
01:52 < ArtemMakhutov> looks like everything is already in kernel
02:03   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
02:05   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Client Quit]
02:10 < hanno> it seems the linux4tegra-downloads on the nvidia page are dead
02:10 < hanno> (file not found)
02:10 < hanno> anyone has a copy of the latest?
02:33   <   hanno!~hanno@91-64-37-210-dynip.superkabel.de [Quit: Verlassend]
02:38   <   woglinde!~woglinde@g225073031.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: good nite]
04:18   <   vegai!v@discord.fi [Remote host closed the connection]
04:18   >>> vegai!v@discord.fi
04:27   >>> chrisq_!chrisq@193.69.165.197
04:27   >>> Unseen2a!snowcat@snowcat.de
04:33   <   chrisq!chrisq@parrot.kotelett.no [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
04:33   <   Unseen2!snowcat@snowcat.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
04:34   <   dario!~dario@domina.zerties.org [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
04:34   ~ Unseen2a is now Unseen2
04:37   >>> dario!~dario@domina.zerties.org
04:52   <   NickaNicka!jensei@propelli.cop.fi [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
04:52   >>> NickaNicka!jensei@propelli.cop.fi
05:05   <   NickaNicka!jensei@propelli.cop.fi [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
06:53   >>> NickaNicka!jensei@propelli.cop.fi
07:04   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru
07:08   >>> xzer4h!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru
07:16   <   xzer4h!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru [Quit: Ex-Chat]
07:21   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
07:37   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
08:51   <   AlainS!~alain@xdsl-188-154-98-184.adslplus.ch [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
09:16   <   Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net []
09:19   >>> uzloun!~uzloun@eduroam-160-217-137-128.eduroam.jcu.cz
09:24   <   uzloun!~uzloun@eduroam-160-217-137-128.eduroam.jcu.cz [Client Quit]
09:35   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Read error: Operation timed out]
09:36   >>> tilmann!~t@g231203161.adsl.alicedsl.de
09:45   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
10:02   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC6B942.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
10:06   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@89.247.181.26
10:07   <   tilmann!~t@g231203161.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
10:09   >>> zommi!~quassel@nat/ibm/x-dhpqdibnvtpsewwn
10:16   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
10:21   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225005082.adsl.alicedsl.de
10:25   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:43   >>> AlainS!~alain@148-14.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch
10:54   <   ArtemMakhutov!~ArtemMakh@ip-95-223-212-10.unitymediagroup.de [Quit: Leaving.]
11:04   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
11:04   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:04   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
11:18 < ogra_> woglinde, natty works for you ?
11:20 < woglinde> ogra with awesome as wm, yes
11:20 < ogra_> no alignment erros etc ?
11:21 < woglinde> hm didnt looked at the stats
11:21 < woglinde> but all programs I tested so far are working
11:21 < ogra_> and which kernel are you using
11:21 < woglinde> like ff4 or chromium
11:21 < woglinde> .37 :)
11:21 < ogra_> aha
11:21 < ogra_> hmm
11:21 < woglinde> but without the arm-eratta aktivated
11:22 < ogra_> intresting
11:22 < woglinde> I think
11:22 < ogra_> yeah, chromium works again since last upload
11:22   ogra_ switched too, FF caused a lot of swapping 
11:22 < woglinde> yes thats why I updated
11:22 < ogra_> more than 3.0
11:23 < woglinde> recompiling wasnt an option
11:24   >>> ArtemMakhutov!~ArtemMakh@hidenat.eu.didata.com
11:25 < ogra_> how well does .37 work yet ?
11:25   ogra_ wonders if he should switch
11:26   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
11:26 < woglinde> hm works okay
11:26 < woglinde> and batterylife should be same as with your .29 kernel
11:27 < woglinde> didnt found yet a awy to disable the second cpu
11:27 < woglinde> dont know about suspend
11:30   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-lppasdvpvudkpcti
11:31 < ogra_> hmm
11:35   <   ArtemMakhutov!~ArtemMakh@hidenat.eu.didata.com []
11:37 < arune> which chromium are you using?
11:39 < woglinde> the natty one
11:39 < woglinde> under natty
11:42 < ogra_> hmm, irqbalance freaks out here
11:42 < woglinde> hm
11:42 < woglinde> no problems here
11:42 < ogra_> to bad natty starts it by default on MP systems
11:42 < woglinde> maybee its coming from the wirless driver
11:43 < ogra_> do you use a mainline driver for wlan under .37 ?
11:43 < woglinde> marvin24 updated it to the latest rt2x00 git driver
11:43 < ogra_> and it works ?
11:43 < woglinde> but it still has some problems
11:43 < ogra_> ah
11:43 < woglinde> but when its working its working
11:44 < woglinde> hm yesterday in night it worked okay for 2 and half hours
12:20   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225005082.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
12:26   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
12:28   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
12:41   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g225005082.adsl.alicedsl.de
12:57   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
13:24   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:25   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
13:27   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
13:35   >>> guest100!d4189e3e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.24.158.62
13:45   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
13:53   <   guest100!d4189e3e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.24.158.62 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
13:54   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225007230.adsl.alicedsl.de
13:57   <   woglinde!~heinold@g225005082.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
14:02   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
14:18   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:27   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru
14:34   >>> dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz
14:34   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
15:03   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
15:05   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru [Quit: Ex-Chat]
15:06   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru
15:06   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
15:37   ~ TTequila__ is now Tequila
15:37   >>> San4ez!~San4ez@89.175.9.54
15:43   <   San4ez!~San4ez@89.175.9.54 [Quit: San4ez]
15:45   >>> san4ez!~Miranda@89.175.9.54
16:00   >>> lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
16:02   <   lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Max SendQ exceeded]
16:03   >>> lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
16:08   >>> freechel!c258deaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.88.222.175
16:15   >>> vanger!~vanger@80.91.178.197
16:19   <   freechel!c258deaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.88.222.175 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:32   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
16:37   <   steelrat!~steelrat@89.247.181.26 [Read error: No route to host]
16:37   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@89.247.181.26
16:46   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
16:55   <   justicelawetc!~dave@87.115.88.34 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
16:55   >>> justicelawetc!~dave@87.115.230.71
17:01   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
17:17   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
17:26   >>> kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
17:36   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
17:43   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
17:54   <   steelrat!~steelrat@89.247.181.26 [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
17:55   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
17:56   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@87.181.28.249
18:06   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
18:10   <   AlainS!~alain@148-14.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Read error: Operation timed out]
18:17   >>> markus_!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
18:17   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
18:17   >>> phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
18:18 < markus_> hi
18:20 < markus_> as you might remember, last week i posted some power consumption values for ubuntu vs. android,..
18:21 < markus_> and mostly found that inrfkill mode ubuntu needs as much power as with enabled wifi/3g,..
18:22   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@109.72.73.226
18:23 < markus_> in the meantime i at least found a simple solution, to reduce the power waste from 1.5W to 0.7W
18:24 < markus_> just stop the network-manager *GG as it will always enable the wifi interface, and triesss scannin, even when rfkill is activated,.
18:27 < ogra_> how about just unchecking wireless in the NM nemu ?
18:27 < markus_> but in fact this is just a stupid workaround, as network-manager i guess is usually aaware of rfkill,..
18:27 < ogra_> that unloads the driver and ifdowns the interface
18:27 < markus_> hmm somehow my network manager does not allow this,..
18:27 < markus_> didn investigate why so faaaar *G
18:27 < ogra_> weird, works fine here
18:28 < markus_> but goot to know that i just messed up my network-manager *GG
18:28 < phh> markus_: I don't remember, had you try unloading rtnet3070sta to see if it stops wasting ?
18:29   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
18:32   <   markus_!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
18:35   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@87.181.28.249 [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
18:39   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51CF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:40   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
18:41   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
18:42   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
18:43   >>> tilmann!~t@g231203161.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:46   >>> markus_!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
18:48 < markus_> hmm yes i tried unloading the driver alread last week,..
18:49 < markus_> but this is "normal" for rt3070 wifis, the need at least ~150mW
18:50 < markus_> i guess the usb hub needs about the same, and really powering down has to done there,..
18:50 < phh> I really have to trace android's stuff to know what they are doing ..
18:50 < markus_> that would be cool *G
18:51 < phh> markus_: well echo auto > suspend in every usb device in /sys ? :p
18:51 < markus_> is on my todo list,..
18:51 < markus_> today i came many steps further already
18:51 < phh> markus_: in android's /system/etc there are some .sh scripts that do that
18:52 < markus_> i patched the lid-switch daemon to handly all/many special keys (display brightness, display off, wifi)
18:52 < markus_> and got working firefox4 and chromium, frommm natt whithout  breaking apt completely,..
18:53 < markus_> hmm how do i get into androids /system/etc
18:53 < phh> mount it ? :lp
18:53 < phh> /dev/mmcblk0p8 i'd say
18:54 < markus_> ah ok, *G
18:54   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-lppasdvpvudkpcti [Read error: Operation timed out]
18:54 < phh> no wait
18:54 < phh> i'm smoking.
18:54 < phh> mmcblk0p1 rather
18:54 < markus_> i mounted some of the partitions, but not all where of guessable filesystems afair *G
18:54   >>> turboNOMAD!~turbonoma@77-52-9-93.dialup.umc.net.ua
18:54 < phh> !?!
18:55 < phh> they are ext3
18:55 < markus_> i will look there after an reboot )-;
18:55 < turboNOMAD> hello to all ac100 users :)
18:55 < turboNOMAD> i just got my device deliverered
18:55 < turboNOMAD> and already have a problem
18:56 < muromec> turboNOMAD, #ac100-ru
18:56 < turboNOMAD> muromec: i'm already there :)
18:57   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
18:57   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51CF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
18:59   <   markus_!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:03   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@88.128.207.37
19:04 < nicofs> How can i patch my kernel in a way to allow for a higher display resolution?
19:04 < muromec> on lvds?
19:04 < muromec> or hmid?
19:04 < muromec> *hdmi
19:05 < nicofs> muromec, lvds
19:05 < phh> hdmi allows 1080p, so I'm better lvds.
19:05   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
19:05   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
19:06 < gildean> iirc the lvds resolution is hard coded?
19:06 < phh> I don't think so
19:06 < phh> well not in the kernel
19:06 < phh> could be in the "bios"
19:06 < muromec> biso?
19:06 < muromec> damn
19:07 < muromec> phh, wtf?
19:07 < phh> muromec: what ?
19:08 < nicofs> no matter where it is set, i'd be happy if i could change it^^
19:08   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
19:08 < phh> you already tried using tega's X driver and setting proper resolution in xorg.conf ?
19:10 < nicofs> phh, my xorg.conf is quite empty - what would i have to add there?
19:10 < phh>  /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf
19:10 < nicofs> phh, ah... that explains a lot...
19:10 < muromec> phh, what bios?
19:10 < nicofs> i don't have /L4T...
19:11 < phh> muromec: bootloader.
19:11 < muromec> ah...
19:11 < phh> nicofs: first thing I said was to use tegra's X driver.
19:11 < phh> I doubt you're using it without /L4T
19:11 < turboNOMAD> has anyone encountered a bug with APN saving in stock android?
19:12 < nicofs> phh, erm... is there a guide somewhere on how to install/get it?
19:12 < turboNOMAD> i fill in the data, push "save" and... return to an empty list :(
19:12 < muromec> phh, can "tegra" xorg driver work without nvrmd?
19:12 < phh> no
19:13 < muromec> ah...
19:13 < nicofs> phh, i'm using ogra's image and the standard file system (+xubuntu)
19:13 < phh> nicofs: you could also try the .37 kernel
19:14 < nicofs> phh, i just managed to compile the current .39-rc1 for arm... just for fun... where do i get .37?
19:14 < phh> gitorious.org, marvin24's stuff
19:14 < nicofs> phh, do i have to compile that myself?
19:15 < muromec> nicofs, you cant grab debian netinstall image
19:15 < phh> I'd guess so
19:15 < muromec> http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/debian/
19:15 < muromec> here is kernel ac100
19:15 < markit> regaarding kernels, is there a howto somewhere to create an boot.img with abootimg (i guess) somewhere,..
19:16 < nicofs> phh, will that work with the fs currently on my ac100?
19:16 < phh> yes
19:17 < markit> as i tried, and the only thing that worked with aboot img for me so far was shrinking the android boot.img *G
19:20   <   dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz [Remote host closed the connection]
19:21 < nicofs> what's the benefit/drawback of marvin's .37 kernel?
19:23 < phh> compared to ogra's .29 I don't think there is anything
19:24   >>> nicofs_!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
19:24 < phh> drawback*
19:25 < phh> advantages well .. not much
19:25 < phh> hdmi output
19:25 < nicofs_> sorry, i think your post was lost in my network crashing...
19:25 < phh> [18:25:17] <phh> compared to ogra's .29 I don't think there is anything
19:25 < phh> [18:25:52] <phh> drawback*
19:25 < phh> [18:26:50] <phh> advantages well .. not much
19:25 < phh> [18:26:52] <phh> hdmi output
19:26 < nicofs_> thx
19:26 < muromec> nicofs, cpufreq ;)
19:26 < phh> ah yeah that too
19:26 < nicofs_> i'm interested in display resolution... ^^
19:26 < phh> yeah .37 has actual graphic initialisation.
19:26 < phh> that's why I told you to try it
19:27   <   nicofs!~nicofs@88.128.207.37 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:27 < nicofs_> phh, i see... well, let me just unpack that...
19:29 < nicofs_> that "chromeos-ac100-s.6.37" is the right one?
19:29 < nicofs_> *s=3
19:30 < marvin24_DT> yep
19:30 < nicofs_> ah... tha master himself ;-)
19:31   <   tilmann!~t@g231203161.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:31   >>> tilmann!~t@g225111236.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:31 < marvin24_DT> no master here
19:32   <   markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Read error: Operation timed out]
19:34 < nicofs_> why don't you let me keep my illusions?
19:34   ~ nicofs_ is now nicofs
19:35 < marvin24_DT> changing the panel resolution would require adjustment of panel timings and framebuffer size
19:35 < nicofs> marvin24, meaning?
19:35 < marvin24_DT> look in board-paz00-panel.c
19:36 < marvin24_DT> did you built in a larger panel?
19:38 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, couldn't resist^^
19:38 < marvin24_DT> wow
19:39 < nicofs> 1280x720 is only $90 incl. shipping...
19:39   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
19:39 < marvin24_DT> does it light up?
19:40 < scoopr> interesting
19:40 < phh> I think everyone is interested here about that :D
19:40 < nicofs> it's working just fine - apart from the resolution
19:42   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-69-183.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:44 < nicofs> ok, i found the section in *-panel.c - i know what to replace 1024 and 600 with - but what about the rest? any ideas where to get those values from?
19:45   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:45 < woglinde_> re
19:45 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: you can try /etc/fb.modes for a guess
19:46 < marvin24_DT> mmh, forget it - only "standard modes"
19:47 < woglinde_> -panel.c is right
19:47 < nicofs> or i just use whats there and hope for the best...
19:48   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
19:48 < marvin24_DT> no
19:49 < marvin24_DT> use the edid values
19:49 < nicofs> edid values?
19:49 < marvin24_DT> the panel know its timings
19:49 < marvin24_DT> isn't there some docu?
19:49 < scoopr> with the wrong resolution, is it scaled or does it have black borders?
19:50 < nicofs> black border to the right and repetition of top screen below
19:51 < phh> funny
19:51 < scoopr> hdh
19:51 < scoopr> heh
19:52 < nicofs> the panel didn't come with much documentation - apart from the note how much tax was charged at customs...
19:52   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
19:53 < marvin24_DT> found: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/155dc4da296be2e9
19:55 < nicofs> hmm.. i don't see how those values are related to what i am seeing here...
19:56   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
19:57 < nicofs> http://www.pastebin.com/WBgWtdRy
19:57 < marvin24_DT> pclk is the pixel clock
19:57 < marvin24_DT> ~75250000 Hz
19:58 < marvin24_DT> *74250074
19:58 < ogra_> did you try fbset yet ?
19:58 < nicofs> ogra_, how can i do that?
19:58 < marvin24_DT> orga lives in an ideal world
19:58 < ogra_> apt-get install fbset ;)
19:59 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: just change the pixclock and boot
19:59 < ogra_> you should be able to force a modeline with it
20:00 < nicofs> marvin24, do i need to run menuconfig - if so, what do i need?
20:01 < markit> regarding auto-supend this was already enabled for wifi/3g but as changing it on/off did not change anything it does not work i guess,..
20:02   <   ac100peter!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20:02 < markit> but i found some other usb devices i could turn off, saved 350mW
20:02 < markit> while online and offline *GG
20:02 < nicofs> i meant marvin24_DT
20:05 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: run make paz00_defconfig
20:05 < woglinde_> markit with .37?
20:06   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 []
20:06 < nicofs> ok... will take a shower as long as it compiles...
20:06   ~ nicofs is now nicofs_away
20:07   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-112-131.bb.netbynet.ru
20:09 < markit> no still with .29 *G
20:09   <   zommi!~quassel@nat/ibm/x-dhpqdibnvtpsewwn [Remote host closed the connection]
20:11 < markit> woglindde_, somehow i was too stupid to make an boot.img with .37, yesterday night, .. will try again today,..
20:12   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
20:15   <   san4ez!~Miranda@89.175.9.54 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:17   >>> markitt!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
20:17   <   markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:23   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
20:25   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
20:31   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
20:35   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
20:36   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-112-131.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20:37   ~ nicofs_away is now nicofs
20:38 < nicofs> when creating the boot.img can i just use the one from gudinna and replace the zImage - or do i need to change anything esle?
20:41 < marvin24_DT> you can try
20:41 < marvin24_DT> otherwise I can put my initrd somewhere
20:41 < nicofs> i'll just try it... hang on
20:45   >>> nicofs_!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
20:46   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20:46 < nicofs_> ok... i can only see two penguins - no more
20:50 < nicofs_> marvin24_DT, i might need your initrd
20:50 < marvin24_DT> wait
20:50   <   lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20:52 < marvin24_DT> nicofs_: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/ramdisk-repack.cpio.gz
20:53 < marvin24_DT> but there should be more than only two pengiuns
20:57 < marvin24_DT> this is my cmdline: 'mem=448M@0M lp0_vec=0x2000@0x1c29e000 tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800 console=tty0 console=ttyGS0,115200n8'
20:57 < nicofs_> marvin24_DT, how do i use this file?
20:58 < marvin24_DT> do you have mkbootimg?
20:58   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-206-070.pools.arcor-ip.net
20:58 < nicofs_> erm... i have this make_bootimg and unpack_bootimg executables
20:59 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:59 < marvin24_DT> I don't know the syntax of make_bootimg
21:00 < marvin24_DT> stupid university, changed their vpn
21:02 < nicofs_> if i pass a cmdline it segfaults...
21:03 < marvin24_DT> cool
21:04   <   markitt!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Read error: Operation timed out]
21:04 < marvin24_DT> I'll try to upload the bin
21:07   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:14 < marvin24_DT> nicofs_: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/public_html
21:15 < marvin24_DT> stupid me
21:15 < marvin24_DT> http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/mkbootimg
21:16 < nicofs_> access forbidden^^
21:16 < marvin24_DT> second link
21:17 < marvin24_DT> oh
21:19 < marvin24_DT> shoudl work now
21:19 < marvin24_DT> /home/marc/android/android/out/host/linux-x86/bin/mkbootimg \
21:19 < marvin24_DT>         --kernel $KDIR/arch/arm/boot/zImage \
21:19 < marvin24_DT>         --ramdisk ~/android/ramdisk-repack.cpio.gz \
21:19 < marvin24_DT>         --cmdline 'mem=448M@0M lp0_vec=0x2000@0x1c29e000 tegrapart=recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800 console=tty0 console=ttyGS0,115200n8' \
21:19 < marvin24_DT>         -o ~/android/test
21:19 < marvin24_DT> flash test to part 6
21:20 < marvin24_DT> reverse ssh via web vpnc doesn't scale
21:20 < marvin24_DT> why does this stupid cisco java client eat 100% ?
21:20 < phh> marvin24_DT: sleep works ? :D
21:20 < phh> (i'm asking because of lp0_vec)
21:20 < marvin24_DT> only when I go to bed
21:20 < marvin24_DT> ah
21:20 < marvin24_DT> no - planed for .42
21:20 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
21:21 < marvin24_DT> otherwise it throughs just another error
21:22   <   Mifun!~Miranda@109.72.73.226 [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
21:22 < marvin24_DT> *throws  - bad english
21:25 < nicofs_> can't access tty, job control turned off...
21:25   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@93.198.154.249
21:29   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-112-131.bb.netbynet.ru
21:30   <   turboNOMAD!~turbonoma@77-52-9-93.dialup.umc.net.ua [Quit: Leaving.]
21:34 < marvin24_DT> grrr
21:34 < nicofs_> i just need to change the init
21:35 < nicofs_> but that .cpio extension is beyond me...
21:35 < nicofs_> archive manager only opens read-only - and i have no idea how to unpack or repack it
21:35 < phh> yeaaah with .32 the cursor no longer blinks \o/
21:35 < phh> (yeah that's enough to be happy.)
21:36 < marvin24_DT> nicofs_: gzip -cd ramdisk.cpio.gz|cpio -i
21:36 < marvin24_DT> to unpack
21:37 < marvin24_DT> edit, cd to ramdisk dir and "find . | cpio -o -H newc | gzip > ../ramdisk-repack.cpio.gz"
21:37 < marvin24_DT> to pack again
21:38 < scoopr> phh, \:D/
21:38 < scoopr> phh, how does it compare to your .29 image otherwise? if no big drawbacks... gimmegimme!
21:39 < scoopr> ;)
21:40 < phh> scoopr: no sound
21:40 < phh> and i want dualboot first
21:41 < scoopr> right'o.. the sound wasn't really that stable in .29 anyway, iirc?
21:41 < scoopr> is the dualboot going to be with uboot?
21:43   >>> SerzZ!serzz@81.90.72.4
21:45 < marvin24_DT> nicofs_: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/boot.img is my boot.img (kernel+initrd)
21:47 < nicofs_> marvin24_DT, what model do you use?
21:50 < marvin24_DT> 10V
21:50   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225007230.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
21:57 < nicofs_> and you use that img with .37?
21:59 < marvin24_DT> the image is .37 + initrd
21:59 < marvin24_DT> just flash it
21:59 < marvin24_DT> do you use an external mmc or internal one?
22:01   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g230116097.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:02 < nicofs_> marvin24_DT, internal
22:02 < marvin24_DT> ah, I use external
22:03 < marvin24_DT> do you see any output (beside the penguins?)
22:03 < nicofs_> i used to - but it all just got worse...
22:04 < nicofs_> "init keyboard error!" - before i get to that recovery menu, where i don't get anymore...
22:05 < marvin24_DT> sorry
22:05 < marvin24_DT> you may need to add you root partition to the initrd scan
22:06 < marvin24_DT> but that won't help with the keyboard
22:06 < marvin24_DT> never seen this message
22:06   >>> guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net
22:07 < nicofs_> marvin24_DT, that root partition thing is why i asked how to unpack your initrd...
22:07 < nicofs_> Has the cmdline any effect on internal/external boot?
22:08 < marvin24_DT> you need it to detect the internal partitions
22:08 < marvin24_DT> (tegrapart)
22:09 < marvin24_DT> but I guess you also have a 10V ...
22:10 < nicofs_> yep
22:11   >>> AlainS!~alain@xdsl-188-154-98-184.adslplus.ch
22:12 < dario> the "init keyboard error" usually occurs when shutting down from nvflash mode and keeping the power button pressed, so it instantly turns on again
22:13 < dario> you have to actually power it down, let the power button go and then turn it on again
22:15 < nicofs_> well that keyboard error was a hardware problem... next time i'll put all screws back in...
22:15   ~ nicofs_ is now nicofs
22:16 < nicofs> If i boot from the internal disk, how is it called? /dev/mmcblk... ?
22:19   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
22:24 < dario> nicofs: mmcblk0pX
22:25 < dario> on the 10V the 5.6GB partition is mmcblk0p6
22:28 < muromec> marvin24, constantly see message about keyboard
22:28 < muromec> bootloader tries to init kb
22:28 < muromec> but kernel has not deinited it
22:28 < marvin24_DT> deinit?
22:28 < muromec> yeah
22:28 < marvin24_DT> I also wonder if you should send something to the ec before shutdown
22:28 < muromec> this crap happens after rebooting from .36
22:29 < marvin24_DT> havn't debugged it yet on .29
22:29 < marvin24_DT> or .32
22:29 < muromec> its sort of fff reset
22:29   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-112-131.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
22:29 < muromec> btw, i think our reboot is sort of cheet
22:29 < muromec> *cheat
22:30 < marvin24_DT> does reboot work on .29/.32?
22:31 < markit> .29 no, reboot=halt *G
22:31 < marvin24_DT> I was surprised that it worked on .36
22:31 < markit> wow
22:32 < muromec> marvin24_DT, i think its plain ldr r0, 0x
22:32 < muromec> ah
22:32 < muromec> ldr pc
22:32 < muromec> or how this opcode looks like
22:32 < muromec> plain jump to 0x0
22:32 < marvin24_DT> pc, 0
22:32   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51CF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
22:32 < marvin24_DT> and that does a reboot?
22:32 < marvin24_DT> strange arm
22:33 < marvin24_DT> muromec: do you have a line# for ec shutdown?
22:33 < muromec> line?
22:33 < muromec> grep for reset somewhere
22:34 < muromec> its control cmd 0xff i think
22:34 < muromec> wait, i`l try to find it
22:34 < markit> hmm in your kernel cmline, the console=ttyGS0,115200n8
22:34 < markit> what kind of serial is this?
22:35 < marvin24_DT> usb
22:35 < marvin24_DT> cdcether/console driver
22:35 < markit> what do i need on the host side for this
22:36 < markit> or does it work out of the box and i get an usbTTY device,..
22:37 < marvin24_DT> you need cdc_ether
22:37 < marvin24_DT> +cdc_acm
22:37 < marvin24_DT> you'll get a usbacm device for console
22:37 < marvin24_DT> and a usb0 for network
22:38 < muromec> NvEcControlSubtype_Reset
22:38 < muromec> marvin24_DT, btw, I cant get usb gadget working here
22:39 < muromec> its compiled in, but host not detects any device
22:39 < marvin24_DT> you may need to set it up on the ac100 side
22:39 < muromec> here also is "NvEcPowerState"
22:39 < muromec> marvin24_DT, setup what?
22:40 < marvin24_DT> console/network
22:40 < marvin24_DT> mmh
22:40 < marvin24_DT> maybe not for the device
22:40 < marvin24_DT> do you get some msg in dmesg while ac100 is booting?
22:42 < marvin24_DT>  NvEcKeyboardSubtype_Reset is used nowhere
22:42 < muromec> and also NvEcSleepSubtype_ApRestart
22:42 < phh> marvin24_DT: keyboard reset is the PS/2 reset code
22:42 < muromec> well, about usb
22:42 < marvin24_DT> we send the reset on init
22:42 < marvin24_DT> to mouse + kdb
22:42 < muromec> but not on deinit
22:43 < muromec> we can try to just disable sending events
22:43 < muromec> starting from kb
22:43 < marvin24_DT> yes, I also saw some code for disable events
22:47 < markit> hmm the phh .29 kernel does not have this cdc_acm, or?
22:49 < phh> not by default
22:49 < phh> my default is usb_net
22:49   Unseen2 just replaced the UMTS module in his 10V with an Atheros WLAN card (i.e. it's a real PCIe device and not just USB) out of curiosity and /sys/bus/pci/devices is still empty (kernel 2.6.29-arm2-ac100-g4dd097f #45 (phh)) =( Would've been nice if it would work.
22:49 < markit> isnt multiple things possible?
22:50 < markit> looool
22:50 < markit> tegra has no pci bus,..
22:50 < Unseen2> So why is there CONFIG_TEGRA_PCI in the kernel config?
22:50 < muromec> *default answer*
22:50 < marvin24_DT> there is pcie
22:51 < marvin24_DT> but maybe no socket connection
22:51 < marvin24_DT> and not enabled in the kernel
22:51 < muromec> Unseen2, can you post photos of disassembled ac100 with marked pcie slot and umts modules?
22:51 < Unseen2> Besides, some people were speculating if the internal Mini-PCIe socket is a fully-usable PCIe slot or just used for its USB connection. Currently I'm leaning towards the later possibility
22:51 < muromec> hah?
22:51   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
22:52 < muromec> why it would be pci if its usb?
22:52 < muromec> ah, sorry, 3g
22:52   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-130-215-141.cust.tele2.se
22:52   muromec though about onboard wlan
22:52 < Unseen2> muromec: I haven't fully disassembled it - the module is in the slot that is in the opening on the top right below the keyboard
22:54 < markit> hmm ok tegra 2 itself seems indeed have full pcie support,..
22:55 < markit> its not very hard to fully disaassemlbe it,..
22:57 < markit> but afair all pins of the pcie socket are soldered to the baord
22:59 < markit> and a even a second pcie socket coudl be soldered onto it,..
22:59 < muromec> Unseen2, so make photos of where it is
22:59 < markit> there are already photos somewhwere just google,..
23:00   muromec damn lazy bastard
23:00 < marvin24_DT> http://www.netbooknews.com/10442/toshiba-ac100-dismantled-mostly-full-of-air-ubuntu-a-no-go/
23:00   >>> san4ez!~Miranda@217.172.18.183
23:00 < marvin24_DT> big void on the right
23:00 < markit> http://www.netbookhelden.de/wp-content/uploads/toshiba-ac100-tegra2.jpg
23:01 < muromec> ah, that big
23:01 < muromec> i have seen this one
23:01 < markit> and     the second one is 90 degree to the left (based from the battery)
23:01 < muromec> but there is no text explaining what is where
23:02 < muromec> markit, marvin24 thanks
23:03 < marvin24_DT> afaics, subtype_disable or subtype_reset is not used anywhere
23:04 < marvin24_DT> I should find at least reset ...
23:05 < muromec> marvin24_DT, it can be just hardcoded ;)
23:06   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.182.214
23:06 < muromec> marvin24_DT, search for all "control type"
23:06 < marvin24_DT> the mouse sends reset
23:08   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-130-215-141.cust.tele2.se []
23:09 < Unseen2> http://dumme-i.de/IMAG0117.jpg (sorry for the low quality, I'm too lazy to dig out a DSLR plus lights right now)
23:11 < muromec> Unseen2, big void on right is where umts was?
23:12 < Unseen2> Yes, right where the miniPCIe connector and the two antenna connectors are
23:17   <   markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
23:18   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:30   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
23:31   ~ Zaek is now Isakk
23:32   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
23:33   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.182.214 []
23:35   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m83-185-105-64.cust.tele2.se
23:35   <   markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:40   <   AlainS!~alain@xdsl-188-154-98-184.adslplus.ch [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
23:41   <   san4ez!~Miranda@217.172.18.183 [Quit: san4ez]
23:43   >>> ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa
23:50 < Unseen2> Bah, completely disassembling my AC100 for that photo was a bad idea - now the touchpad is dead
23:52   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
23:53 < muromec> Unseen2, i believe you just disconnected wire from slot
23:53 < phh> I'd believe the same.
23:53 < Unseen2> I checked that already, it's connected
23:54   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
23:59   <   woglinde!~heinold@g230116097.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
--- Day changed Thu Apr 07 2011
00:00 < muromec> Unseen2, so you just pressed tp_disable
00:00 < Unseen2> Does that persist between (cold) reboots?
00:03 < muromec> dunno how cold are them
00:04 < muromec> just try to press it back
00:05 < Unseen2> Looks like I did and it does persisst. Thanks for the tip. =)
00:14   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
00:19   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B51CF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:23   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m83-185-105-64.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:23   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-206-070.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
00:34   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
00:36   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host78-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
00:37   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
00:37   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
00:38   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Read error: Operation timed out]
00:40   >>> phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
00:42   >>> SenkZ!~SenkZ@dsl-087-195-175-071.solcon.nl
00:42 < SenkZ> hello
00:42 < SenkZ> good evening
00:42 < SenkZ> today i recieved my ac100 :D
00:42 < SenkZ> tomorrow ill try to install ubuntu
00:43 < SenkZ> i have a 8gb 10 class card
00:48   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
00:52 < SenkZ> what is the latest linux version for the ac100?
00:55 < muromec> SenkZ, .37
00:56   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Quit: Leaving]
00:57   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-219-109.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:57   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-244.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
00:57   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
00:58 < SenkZ> this is tutorial for .37?
00:58 < SenkZ> http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Installation
01:00   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
01:05   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
01:07   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
01:09 < SenkZ> well i go to bed now
01:09 < SenkZ> see you guys tomorrow!
01:09   <   SenkZ!~SenkZ@dsl-087-195-175-071.solcon.nl [Quit: Ik ga weg]
01:12   <   kim4i!~kim4i@nat042-252-205-109.tvoe.tv [Remote host closed the connection]
01:23   <   markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:23   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
01:31   <   tilmann!~t@g225111236.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
01:31 < markit> hmm regarding kernel cmdlines,..
01:31 < markit> can i leave away the tegraboot=sdmmc
01:32 < markit> and just specify root=/dev/mmcblkXpY
01:37   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
01:54   <   markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Quit: Ex-Chat]
01:55   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
01:58   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
02:02   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
02:03 < phh> mmm
02:03 < phh> compat-wireless doesn't work on .32
02:04   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
02:25   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host78-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
02:44   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
03:11 < phh> marvin24: ok i'm ready to dump I2C communication for codec :p
03:11   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
03:18   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
04:09   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
04:24   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
04:42   <   lucky_luchiano!~sc66pda@89.169.24.79 [Remote host closed the connection]
05:01   *.net <-\-> *.split: [kenws, [df], pm215_, lepanen, Eruquen, chrissbx, hectorvector]
05:01   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:02   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
05:03   >>> [kenws, [df], lepanen, Eruquen, chrissbx, hectorvector, pm215_]
05:04   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
05:04   <   chrissbx!~chrissbx@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
05:04   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
05:05   >>> chrissbx!~chrissbx@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com
05:18   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
05:20   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
05:57   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
06:02 < sonny> https://twitter.com/#!/plugapps/status/55824853298712576 "PlugApps, the Arch Linux port for ARM, is coming to Cortex-A-based boards, so if you have access to one, let us know!"
06:08 < phh> for all kernel devs (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), some logs at http://www.enst.fr/~husson/plop-android2 : those logs show communication including init with audio codec, and backlight handling  (especially pwm stuff)
06:09 < phh> (i'm pretty sure noone will read logs and I'll have to post it again but well.)
06:10   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
06:14 < phh> I still can't see how the hell it gets interrupts to userland though.
07:27   <   Isakk!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
07:27   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
08:13   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
08:14   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
08:19   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
08:23   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-112-131.bb.netbynet.ru
08:27   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
08:34   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net []
08:41   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-112-131.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
09:24   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:32   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
09:34   <   ramana_!~chatzilla@66.37.187.81.in-addr.arpa [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110323142937]]
09:50   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
09:54   <   harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
09:57   <   lenios_!~lenios@APuteaux-153-1-3-217.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [Changing host]
09:57   >>> lenios_!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
10:14   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Remote host closed the connection]
10:23   >>> zommi!~quassel@nat/ibm/x-cibfwdymvxabauwr
10:27   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@93.198.154.249 [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
10:33 < marvin24> phh: when are you sleeping?
10:47   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
10:47   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
10:55   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
10:57 < marvin24> the datasheet of alc5632 look at least similar to alc/rt5623 (both are i2s audio codecs)
10:57 < marvin24> a codec driver for the latter can be found here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git;a=tree;f=sound/soc/codecs;h=c1aff47fa01115efc871d68ceb52054af9d2b906;hb=mvl-dove
11:12   >>> xzerth!~vasya@85.26.155.199
11:12   >>> AlainS!~alain@236-205.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch
11:16 < arune> marvin24: do you have url for the datasheets? (alc5632 and alc/rt5623)
11:25 < marvin24> alc5632: http://wenku.baidu.com/view/c5eec0116c175f0e7cd13766.html
11:27   <   xzerth!~vasya@85.26.155.199 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
11:27 < marvin24> rest: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=25&PFid=39&Level=4&Conn=3&ProdID=163&DownTypeID=1&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
11:29   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
11:30   ~ Zaek is now Isakk
11:32 < arune> hehe, datasheet in flash, coolers
11:33 < marvin24> you can also download it
11:33 < marvin24> (not so easy)
11:33 < marvin24> and I forgot the russian url for the pdf :-(
11:34   marvin24 doesn't want to host "realtek confidential" data on his university account
11:34   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-odzcqhumdnqsdepc
11:34 < arune> hehe
11:35   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
11:35 < arune> mail it to runeson gmail and I can put it on my server
11:55   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
11:56 < arune> datasheets now on http://arune.se/temp/ac100/
11:56 < arune> thanks
12:00   >>> xzerth!~vasya@213.131.9.228
12:05   <   Isakk!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net []
12:10   >>> Zaek!Zaek@static147-211.mimer.net
12:22   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
12:27   >>> peterAC100!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de
12:44 < arune> theres some differences in the registers, 5632 have a new register called power down control/status which seems to default to power down
12:48 < arune> but I guess with the 5623 driver and phhs dump of I2C data it should be doable :)
12:49   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
12:53   <   xzerth!~vasya@213.131.9.228 [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
12:54   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
12:58   >>> George__!5b4d73ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.115.238
13:44 < arune> phh: "I2C Transaction with 3c " is 3c the i2c address?
13:47 < arune> (real address of ALC5632 is 1e but shifted one step (r/w-bit) gives 3c, correct?)
13:50 < marvin24> arune: 3c >> 1 is 1e
13:50 < marvin24> so yes
13:52   <   George__!5b4d73ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.115.238 [Quit: Page closed]
13:52   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
13:55 < arune> btw, for the log: datasheets for alc5632 and alc5623/rt5623 on http://arune.se/temp/ac100/
13:57   >>> markitt!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
13:58 < markitt> hello
13:59 < markitt> i have some questions about marvins .37 kernel, does it support suspend?
13:59 < marvin24> no it doesn't
13:59 < markitt> i just bootet one,
13:59 < ogra_> all kernels support suspend ....your question should be does it support wakeup ;)
13:59 < markitt> after modifying yesterday modified initrd to support internal mmc and nilfs
14:00 < markitt> true *G
14:00 < markitt> but im not absolutely sure if it even supended
14:00 < markitt> the led never started blinking,..
14:00 < markitt> the good thing is my keyboard alt-gr is now working normal *G
14:01 < markitt> i guess display brightness doesn`t work aswell?
14:02   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
14:10 < marvin24> right
14:10 < markitt> sad,..
14:11 < marvin24> but it switches on/off automaticly
14:11 < ogra_> thats a major improvement
14:11 < markitt> but the biggest problem currently is that it boots only one of aorund 3 or 4 times,..
14:12 < markitt> sometimes initrd can`t mount my nilfs
14:12 < markitt> sometimes it doesn`t reach login,..
14:12 < markitt> but sometimes it does *G
14:12 < marvin24> do you have the dmesg of non-booting kernel?
14:13 < marvin24> if it can't mount the root fs, it will drop to a shell
14:13   >>> George!5b4d73ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.115.238
14:13 < marvin24> sometimes also opens a console on usb
14:13 < marvin24> depends on how you configured you kernel
14:29   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
14:30 < markitt> jep i have the output
14:30 < markitt> usb console provides an login nearly always
14:30 < markitt> but i couldn`t ever login *G
14:30 < markitt>  bin / login not found or so
14:31 < markitt> hmm at the moment im back with .29
14:31 < markitt> playing with cpufrq and power consumption there,..
14:31 < markitt> just found out that second core is activated if first goes over 666mhz
14:32 < markitt> and deactivated if first goes below 334
14:32 < markitt> and that system gets unuseable slow on e.g. 100mhz or less (and the default 40mhz minimum frequency is no good idea,..)
14:33 < markitt> also below 200mhz no measureable power is saved anymore,..
14:33   ~ stenzel_ is now stenzel
14:41 < nicofs> markitt, would you care to write that down? like a small paper on "Ac100 power consumption: how it works"?
14:45   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Remote host closed the connection]
14:47 < markitt> i already write it down,..
14:47 < markitt> and if i have a bit more time, i`ll make a wiki page out of it,..
14:48   >>> harms1!~harms@84.48.93.40
14:49   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Read error: Operation timed out]
14:50   >>> muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96
14:53 < nicofs> markitt, that's the spirit!
15:06 < markitt> no that normal for me, as i`m involved in several open source projects *GG
15:12 < pm215_> what, you found some that care about documentation? :-)
15:17   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B5162C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
15:19   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
15:20 < nicofs> i was told that documentation is crucial... from what i experienced (and without a dictionary) i would have taken crucial as a synonym of neglectable...
15:26   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B5162C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
15:27 < markitt> yep i`m documenting,..
15:27 < markitt> but not brilliant quality, *GG
15:29 < markitt> and yes, larger/long time runnig open source projects need documentation *GG
15:31 < markitt> or they die (which might letigimately more acceptable than doing documentation,.. *G)
15:32 < markitt> and yes i found others that do documentation aswell,..
15:32 < markitt> ok enough for the moment ,..
15:35   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
15:36   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
15:36   <   markitt!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:47 < phh> arune: yeah, it's always shifted by one.
15:48 < phh> I didn't expect it to be shifted this time thouogh
15:56   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
15:57 < phh> marvin24: so backlight seems to be exactly like on harmony
15:57 < phh> on lvds
16:14 < marvin24> at least for on/of
16:14 < marvin24> off
16:14 < marvin24> I don't know about regulation
16:14 < marvin24> there is none for harmony
16:14 < marvin24> but something different on seaboard
16:14 < marvin24> I tried the method like on seaboard, but there are too many unknown parameters
16:15   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:16 < phh> well, in the .32 sources there are some LVDS gpios registered on harmony
16:16 < phh> including the pwm one
16:17   <   George!5b4d73ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.115.238 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:18 < marvin24> but gpio is 0/1 only - isn't it?
16:19 < marvin24> how to regulate something with this?
16:19   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
16:19 < phh> it's bound to a pwm.
16:19 < phh> <4>[  114.291338] Writing pin 800000a4 to 1
16:19 < phh> <4>[  114.291644] Setting pwm 1 to 2 mode, 1376256 cycle 200 freqorperiod
16:20 < phh> <4>[    8.233323] Acquiring GPIO 4 on port 20(800000a4)
16:20 < phh> that's bl_en
16:20 < marvin24> I guess that was sound related
16:21 < marvin24> *guessed
16:21 < phh> not that part
16:21 < marvin24> nice work btw
16:21 < phh> only I2C stuff are sound related
16:21 < phh> well there is also the headspeaker detection gpio
16:21 < marvin24> codec also has gpio
16:21 < marvin24> yes
16:21 < phh> but again, it's the same as on harmony's sources :D
16:22 < marvin24> harmony on .32?
16:22 < phh> yes
16:22 < marvin24> on .37 it is only 0/1
16:23 < phh> oops
16:23 < phh> perhaps not harmony.
16:23 < phh> ok it was ventana.
16:23 < phh>     /* Panel 5 -- Harmony E1162 LVDS interface */
16:23 < phh>     { NVODM_PORT('b'), 2, NvOdmGpioPinActiveState_High },   // Enable (LVDS_SHTDN_N) (LO:OFF, HI:ON)
16:23 < phh>     { NVODM_PORT('w'), 0, NvOdmGpioPinActiveState_High },   // EN_VDD_BL
16:23 < phh>     { NVODM_PORT('n'), 7, NvOdmGpioPinActiveState_High },    // HDMI HPD
16:24 < phh>     { NvOdmIoModule_Gpio, (NvU32)'w'-'a', 0x02, 0 }, /* GPIO Port W and Pin 2 for HP_DET */
16:24 < phh> all thsoe things seem right to me
16:24   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
16:24 < phh> ah well hp_det is the same for harmony.
16:24 < phh> and not ventana.
16:25 < marvin24> for seaboard it is u5
16:25 < minimec> I am just doing a backup of a ac100-111. Now I come to partiton 14 of a 32gb version. WOuld it backup the whole partition --> /all the maybe 30 Gb of /storage? In that case I will not do the backup.
16:26 < phh> minimec: yes it does.
16:27 < minimec> phh: Thx I will be able to provide you a clean full-backup of an untouched ac100-111 swiss edition 32GB 3*G/Bluetooth.
16:27   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
16:29 < phh> marvin24: you have any idea how to link a gpio to a pwm or you want me to search that ?
16:30 < marvin24> phh: look at pwm_bl.c (drivers/video/backlight)
16:30 < marvin24> there is some pwm_request(xxx, "backlight")
16:30 < marvin24> looks like gpio_request
16:31 < phh> yeah but perhaps you have to link a gpio to a pwm ?
16:31 < phh> I don't really know
16:31   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
16:31 < phh> hum na, i'm quite sure of that.
16:33   ogra_ recommends duct tape 
16:35   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
16:35 < marvin24> pwm_request is defined in march-tegra/pwm.c
16:35 < marvin24> which uses memory, not gpio
16:36 < phh> nothing suprise here
16:36   >>> tectep!3e8d4cb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.141.76.178
16:36 < marvin24> seems that gpio based regulation is just not implemented yet
16:37 < phh> it's just that there is somewhere else to set the gpio to a pwm state ...
16:39   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-165.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:40 < marvin24> the problem is that the pwm gpio is not used in any board file
16:40 < marvin24> so pwm-backlight cannot use it
16:45 < phh> i can't see why is that a problem ... ?
16:54 < marvin24> not realy a problem
16:54 < marvin24> I just cannot copy and paste something
16:54 < marvin24> ;-)
16:56 < phh> you can copy/paste it from another SoC :p
16:59   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
17:00 < marvin24> like nvidia just copied from samsung
17:03   <   tectep!3e8d4cb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.141.76.178 [Quit: Page closed]
17:03   >>> grandrew!~andrew@95-27-161-54.broadband.corbina.ru
17:14 < pm215_> copy/paste: linus will shout at you :-)
17:15 < gildean> in finnish
17:15 < phh> pm215_: we won't be either the first nor the lasts.
17:17   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Remote host closed the connection]
17:17   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
17:24 < marvin24> device tree support will change everything
17:24 < marvin24> ;-)
17:28   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
17:31   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
17:37   >>> Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
17:38   <   Tactilofan_!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Client Quit]
17:38   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
17:41   >>> George!59bc7216@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.188.114.22
17:41   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
17:45   <   George!59bc7216@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.188.114.22 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:45   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 [Quit: Leaving.]
17:47   >>> phh_!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
17:48   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:49   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
17:50   ~ phh_ is now phh
17:51   >>> tilmann!~t@g225111236.adsl.alicedsl.de
18:01   <   AlainS!~alain@236-205.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
18:01 < scoopr> if it's any conslidation, I can translate any shouting that happens in finnish ;)
18:02 < phh> lol
18:03 < marvin24> http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org/msg03279.html
18:11 < gildean> i think i've seen quite few of us finns in here, most just idle tho'
18:13 < phh> I need an idea to hack sound.
18:13   >>> AlainS!~alain@236-205.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch
18:14   <   muromec!~muromec@78.26.174.96 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
18:16   >>> xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123
18:17   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
18:18   >>> George!59bc7216@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.188.114.22
18:22 < phh> YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
18:22 < phh> sound is playing at real time now \o/
18:22 < phh> now I need it to play to speaker.
18:23 < pm215_> YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH> your test mp3 is _Won't Get Fooled Again_, I take it ;-)
18:23 < phh> ?
18:24 < phh> fuck. I rock.
18:24 < phh> sound in headphones.
18:24 < phh> (with L4T's nvrm_daemon on .32)
18:24 < ogra_> with a plain .37 kernel ?
18:24 < ogra_> ah
18:24 < pm215_> ?> it's got a very loud 'yeaaaah' in it
18:24 < ogra_> :/
18:24 < phh> ogra_: yeah sorry about that
18:25 < phh> well sound on .37 is easier than that
18:27   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
18:27   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
18:27 < Snark> phh and without L4T/ ?
18:27 < phh> Snark: god no.
18:28 < phh> I want 3D, flash, video playback and stuff :p
18:28 < phh> well it should work without it, just nvrm_daemon
18:30 < phh> now I should have fully working flashplayer \o/
18:30 < phh> I just need an internet connection
18:31 < scoopr> you are a man-machine!
18:31 < phh> I still have to pray that alsa sound on .32 is stabler than on .29.
18:32 < phh> well, i would be able to use omx as audio output
18:40 < phh> (ext3 as a / is really a bad idea.)
18:42 < bmw> phh: why?
18:42 < phh> 30 seconds to boot firefox.
18:43 < bmw> hmm from sd?
18:43 < phh> even more i'd say
18:43 < phh> yes
18:43   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
18:44 < phh> (TODO: delete this stupid android socket protection.)
18:45 < phh>  firefox is really waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too slow in this configuration -_-'
18:45 < bmw> which sd class?
18:45 < phh> 4
18:46 < phh> youtube works \o/
18:47 < phh> (and i'm not speaking of a html5 version.)
18:47 < phh> (which wouldn't work either.)
18:48 < sonny> phh, have you tried firefox 4?
18:48 < phh> no
18:48 < bmw> I have 6, this is acceptable.
18:48 < phh> bmw: on ext3 on SD ?
18:48 < bmw> yes
18:48 < phh> wow.
18:49 < gildean> hmm, does the .32 kernel have ext4 support?
18:49 < phh> groumpf, atrix's flashplayer is not fully compatible with L4T's X server it seems
18:49 < phh> some pages get BadDrawable errors :s
18:52 < bmw> sometimes freezes, but generally ok
18:54 < bmw> phh: where you got flash player?
18:54 < phh> bmw: atrix
18:55 < phh> it's running a L4T in dockmode :p
18:56 < bmw> heh (:
18:56 < phh> I wanted to take their X server but it didn't wor :(
18:58   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: mirco]
18:59   >>> mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:05 < phh> OKAY.
19:05 < phh> when i'm trying to make a video of the flash player
19:05 < phh> it just crashes.
19:05 < phh> while it was fine on that video earlier.
19:05 < phh> stupid murphy
19:07   <   AlainS!~alain@236-205.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:09 < bmw> :|
19:09 < phh> okay. now it's my phone's camera that doesn't want to work
19:10   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-odzcqhumdnqsdepc [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
19:10   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
19:27   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
19:28   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
19:30   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B5162C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
19:33   <   tilmann!~t@g225111236.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:35 < phh> ok I started a mplayer -shuffle -loop 0 *.mp3
19:35 < phh> we'll see if it's stable.
19:41   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
19:47   <   xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
19:48   >>> tilmann!~t@f052200141.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:52   >>> Morfeo!~Scid@189.161.108.22
20:00   <   George!59bc7216@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.188.114.22 [Quit: Page closed]
20:01   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net []
20:01   <   zommi!~quassel@nat/ibm/x-cibfwdymvxabauwr [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:07   >>> san4ez!~Miranda@89.175.9.54
20:11   <   san4ez!~Miranda@89.175.9.54 []
20:15   >>> xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123
20:20   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B5162C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de []
20:29   >>> fh[bgjd!~oleg@79.104.4.84
20:30   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
20:34   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:35   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
20:35   <   fh[bgjd!~oleg@79.104.4.84 ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"]
20:41   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20:43   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:45   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:53   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
20:53   <   xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123 [Read error: Operation timed out]
20:58   >>> xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123
20:58   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
21:05   <   xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:07   >>> turbo!~turbo@e177137183.adsl.alicedsl.de
21:07   ~ turbo is now Guest80337
21:17   >>> AlainS!~alain@xdsl-188-154-98-184.adslplus.ch
21:18   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:19   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:58   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m77-218-191-218.cust.tele2.se
22:01   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:06   >>> xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123
22:08   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
22:11   >>> SenkZ!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71
22:11 < SenkZ> hello everyone
22:11 < SenkZ> im about to hack my ac 100
22:11 < Mifun> :O
22:12 < SenkZ> there are so many tutorials
22:12 < SenkZ> which one is the latest one?
22:13 < gildean> yeah, it depends on what do you want to do
22:13 < SenkZ> i want to install latest version on my ac100
22:13 < gildean> we have two different versions atm
22:14 < SenkZ> some times i read its recommanded to back up first
22:14 < SenkZ> i want the version which can hibernate
22:14 < gildean> ok, so you wan't phh's version
22:14 < SenkZ> i believe phh's one is most used one?
22:15 < gildean> don't know about that 
22:15 < SenkZ> which version do you run?
22:15 < gildean> phh
22:15 < SenkZ> k
22:15 < SenkZ> so i have this website:
22:15 < SenkZ> http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
22:15 < SenkZ> i have a usb to micro usb
22:15 < gildean> yeah, that's written by me
22:15 < SenkZ> and i have a kingston class 10 memory
22:15 < SenkZ> im running linux atm
22:16 < gildean> you don't need the usb if you are going to use the sd-card
22:16 < SenkZ> and i have my ac100
22:16 < SenkZ> okay
22:16 < gildean> we'll you do
22:16 < gildean> if you want to use nvflash
22:16 < SenkZ> nvflash is for backup?
22:16 < gildean> which you do, if you go by the guide
22:16 < gildean> nvflash is for flashing the internal emmc
22:16 < SenkZ> i can run ubuntu without nflash?
22:17 < gildean> i think muromec made a tool, i haven't tried it
22:17 < SenkZ> so best is to use nflash?
22:18 < gildean> but anyways, if you read that guide that i made, it'll explain everything you need to get ubuntu up and running fairly well
22:18 < SenkZ> okay
22:19 < SenkZ> well im not experienced in linux
22:19 < SenkZ> but ill try to follow the tutorial
22:19 < SenkZ> will you be around?
22:19 < gildean> you don't need to be, the guide should give you all that you need
22:19 < SenkZ> ok
22:20 < gildean> and my irssi runs in a screen on a server, so it's always on
22:20 < SenkZ> k
22:20   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
22:20 < SenkZ> ur tutorial says
22:20 < SenkZ> dont let the sd card auto mount
22:20 < SenkZ> i believe it already auto mounted
22:20 < gildean> then umount it from the gui
22:21 < SenkZ> because i see the kingston icon on my desktop
22:21 < gildean> and then mount it manually
22:21 < SenkZ> i unmounted it
22:21 < gildean> shouldn't matter how you do it
22:22 < gildean> but the mount has to be done from cli
22:22 < SenkZ> okay
22:22 < SenkZ> im about to format
22:22 < SenkZ> i dont need it to be mounted to format?
22:24   <   xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:25 < gildean> should be obvious by the messages you get from mkfs
22:26 < SenkZ> seth@seth-Studio-1749:~$ sudo mkfs -t nilfs2 /media/Kingston mkfs.nilfs2 ver 2.0 Error: device must be a block device or a file
22:26   >>> xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123
22:27 < gildean> yes, you can't format a mounted partition
22:28 < SenkZ> it mounted cuz i went into it
22:28 < SenkZ> unmounted it again
22:28 < gildean> first umount it and format the partition on the device
22:28 < gildean> not the mountpoint
22:28 < gildean> as in /dev/somethingP1
22:29   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
22:29 < SenkZ> i see
22:29   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6A7B2.dip.t-dialin.net
22:30 < gildean> the first partition on the sd-card is propably something like /dev/mmcbkl0p1
22:30 < SenkZ> i have mmcblk0 and mmcblkop1
22:31 < gildean> yeah, mmcblk0 is the device, and mmcblk0p1 is the first partition on that device
22:32 < SenkZ> mkfs.nilfs2 ver 2.0 Start writing file system initial data to the device        Blocksize:4096  Device:/dev/mmcblk0p1  Device Size:7956070400 File system initialization succeeded !!
22:32 < SenkZ> :-)
22:32 < gildean> should be obvious
22:34   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
22:34 < SenkZ> ubuntu.tar should be placed in root folder?
22:36 < SenkZ> im running ubuntu and i dont get a textual path in the folder manager
22:36 < SenkZ> otherwise i could easy copy paste it
22:36 < SenkZ> copying img now :)
22:37 < gildean> ?
22:37 < gildean> use the commands in the guide
22:37 < gildean> in a terminal
22:37 < SenkZ> its copying img now ;)
22:38 < gildean> you have to extract the files by those cmd's or it doesn't work properly
22:38 < gildean> extracting will take some time
22:38 < SenkZ> i did with you rcommands
22:39 < SenkZ> sudo tar xavf /home/seth/Downloads/Ubuntu5.tar.lzma --numeric-owner -C /mnt
22:39 < gildean> ok
22:39 < SenkZ> i used mozille to download
22:39 < SenkZ> so it was in other folder
22:39 < SenkZ> the img surely takes its time :D
22:39 < gildean> you do know that you can tab the path's in a ubuntu terminal?
22:39 < SenkZ> no?
22:39 < gildean> if you're new to linux
22:40 < gildean> so you don't have to spell out the whole path, just press tab after the first few letters
22:40 < SenkZ> the reason i want ubuntu on my ac100 is also to learn linux
22:40 < SenkZ> cool
22:41 < gildean> that's the first thing to learn
22:41 < gildean> because using ubuntu on the ac100 you won't be able to ignore using terminal
22:41 < justicelawetc> SenkZ: what version Android does your Ac100 have please ?
22:41 < gildean> i know a lot of people don't like using cli at all
22:42 < gildean> ah, yeah, 2.2 doesn't support dualboot atm.
22:42 < gildean> so if you updated, you have to downgrade first
22:43   <   Morfeo!~Scid@189.161.108.22 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
22:43 < gildean> but phh reported some nice news earlier today about getting sound and flash working on the .32 kernel
22:43   >>> SenkZ_!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71
22:43 < SenkZ_> my ubuntu crashed :S
22:44   >>> Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.197.171
22:44 < SenkZ_> now ill have to do the image thing again
22:44 < gildean> are you running a live ubuntu?
22:44 < SenkZ_> just a ubuntu
22:45 < SenkZ_> should i also format again?
22:45 < gildean> i mean is it installed on some machine, or do you run it from a usb?
22:45   <   SenkZ!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:45 < SenkZ_> it is installed on partition
22:45   <   xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123 [Read error: Operation timed out]
22:45 < gildean> ok
22:45 < SenkZ_> should i format again?
22:46 < gildean> easier to reformat
22:46 < gildean> as it takes only a second
22:46 < SenkZ_> mkfs.nilfs2 ver 2.0 Start writing file system initial data to the device        Blocksize:4096  Device:/dev/mmcblk0p1  Device Size:7956070400 mkfs.nilfs2 ver 2.0 Error: cannot write device.
22:46 < SenkZ_> :/
22:47   >>> bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76
22:48   ~ Tactilofan is now LePeteux
22:48   ~ LePeteux is now LePervers
22:49   >>> xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123
22:49 < SenkZ_> should i format it to fat and than format to nilfs?
22:49 < gildean> no need
22:49 < SenkZ_> error cannot write device
22:49 < gildean> then the filesystem is in use
22:50 < gildean> prolly cleanerd running
22:50 < SenkZ_> strange
22:50 < SenkZ_> tried again now it worked
22:50   <   Mumiah!~Mumiah@91.178.197.171 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:51 < SenkZ_> resuming image command
22:52   ~ LePervers is now LaBeteDeSexe
22:52   ~ LaBeteDeSexe is now LeBlack
22:52   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m77-218-191-218.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
22:58   <   bmw!~makc@109.201.89.76 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:59 < SenkZ_> there were some error message by writing image
22:59 < SenkZ_> is that usauall?
23:00 < SenkZ_> tar: ./usr/share/gnome/help/empathy/gl/figures/audio-input-microphone.png: Functie unlink() is mislukt: Bestand of map bestaat niet tar: ./usr/share/gnome/help/empathy/gl/figures/busy.png: Functie unlink() is mislukt: Bestand of map bestaat niet tar: ./usr/share/gnome/help/empathy/gl/figures/available.png: Functie unlink() is mislukt: Bestand of map bestaat niet tar: Gestopt in fouttoestand vanwege eerdere fouten
23:03   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7D769.dip.t-dialin.net
23:04   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7D769.dip.t-dialin.net [Max SendQ exceeded]
23:05   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7D769.dip.t-dialin.net
23:08 < SenkZ_> what should i adjust in this command:
23:08 < SenkZ_> ?
23:08 < SenkZ_> sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./nvflash/ ./nvflash/nvflash --bl ./prebuilt/fastboot.stock.bin --read 5 tegra_partition_5.bin --go
23:11   >>> bmw!~makc@83.149.46.33
23:12   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
23:12 < SenkZ_> nvm
23:12 < SenkZ_> already got
23:12 < SenkZ_> nvflash stared
23:13 < SenkZ_> started*
23:14 < SenkZ_> how long does nvflash take to run?
23:16 < guiguid> 1 minute max
23:16 < SenkZ_> its still running
23:16 < SenkZ_> how can i shut it down?
23:16 < guiguid> CTRL-C
23:16   <   xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
23:16 < SenkZ_> thanks
23:16 < SenkZ_> but now it says
23:17 < SenkZ_> USB device not foundseth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$ .
23:17 < SenkZ_> i have to restart my ac?
23:19 < guiguid> Yes some time you have do rebbot twice .... ( CTRL+ESC+Power , release power then release CTRL+ESC in 30 seconds)
23:20 < guiguid> bye good nigth
23:20 < SenkZ_> thanks
23:22 < SenkZ_> how can i fix this?
23:22 < SenkZ_> USB device not foundseth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$
23:24   >>> Morfeo!~Scid@189.161.108.22
23:27   >>> CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B5162C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
23:28   <   bmw!~makc@83.149.46.33 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
23:33 < SenkZ_> anyone here/
23:33 < SenkZ_> ?
23:36 < Mifun> nope
23:36 < SenkZ_> hello
23:36 < SenkZ_> can you help me?
23:39 < peterAC100> SenkZ_:  whats the problem?
23:40 < SenkZ_> seth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$ sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./nvflash/ ./nvflash/nvflash --bl ./prebuilt/fastboot.stock.bin --read 5 tegra_partition_5.bin --go [sudo] password for seth:  Nvflash started USB device not foundseth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$
23:40 < SenkZ_> seth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$ sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./nvflash/ ./nvflash/nvflash --bl ./prebuilt/fastboot.stock.bin --read 5 tegra_partition_5.bin --go  [sudo] password for seth:   Nvflash started  USB device not foundseth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3
23:41 < SenkZ_> i wanted to make white spaces :/
23:41 < SenkZ_> but thats the problem
23:41 < SenkZ_> nvflash not detecting usb devices
23:41 < peterAC100> lash started USB device not <- seems like your ac is not in rescue mode?
23:41 < SenkZ_> well
23:41 < SenkZ_> i got my usb plugged from laptop
23:41 < SenkZ_> to mini usb ac
23:41 < SenkZ_> i hold esc & ctrl
23:41 < SenkZ_> while pressing the power button once
23:42 < SenkZ_> after that i hold esc & ctrl for 30 seconds
23:42 < SenkZ_> screen doesnt turn on
23:42 < SenkZ_> but power led does
23:42   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.177.143
23:42 < SenkZ_> did i do something wrong?
23:43 < peterAC100> SenkZ_:  no, the cmds look fine, IMHO
23:43 < peterAC100> it works for me this way.
23:43 < SenkZ_> can there be a problem with my ubuntu laptop not detecting usb?
23:44 < peterAC100> SenkZ_:  have you looked into the logs?
23:44 < SenkZ_> no
23:45 < SenkZ_> seth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$ sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./nvflash/ ./nvflash/nvflash --bl ./prebuilt/fastboot.stock.bin --read 5 tegra_partition_5.bin --go
23:45 < SenkZ_> Nvflash started
23:45 < SenkZ_> USB device not foundseth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$
23:45 < peterAC100> Apr  7 21:17:44 tpad kernel: [1261064.118429] scsi 23:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TOSHIBA  AC_AND_AZ        0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
23:45 < SenkZ_> feels like im in wrong directory or something
23:46 < peterAC100> SenkZ_:  not sure, if this was for usb-storage or in the debug mode
23:46 < SenkZ_> how can i check log?
23:46 < peterAC100> cat /var/log/messages | grep -i tosh
23:46 < SenkZ_> Apr  7 21:42:37 seth-Studio-1749 kernel: [    1.716114] ata1.00: ATA-8: TOSHIBA MK5056GSY, LH000D, max UDMA/100 Apr  7 21:42:37 seth-Studio-1749 kernel: [    1.730052] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      TOSHIBA MK5056GS LH00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 Apr  7 21:42:37 seth-Studio-1749 kernel: [    2.499813] ata2.00: ATA-8: TOSHIBA MK5056GSY, LH000D, max UDMA/100 Apr  7 21:42:37 seth-Studio-1749 kernel: [    2.516833] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Acces
23:47 < SenkZ_> what does that mean?
23:47 < gildean> that's your hd
23:47 < SenkZ_> of my ac?
23:48 < gildean> reboot your ubuntu machine and unplug the ac100 and power it down
23:48 < gildean> no, that's the hd of your ubuntu machine
23:48 < SenkZ_> k
23:48 < gildean> just happens to be made by toshiba
23:48 < SenkZ_> and than come back here?
23:48 < SenkZ_> lol
23:49   <   SenkZ_!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71 [Quit: Page closed]
23:49   <   Guest80337!~turbo@e177137183.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Bye]
23:51   >>> SenkZ!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71
23:51 < SenkZ> ac100 is unplugged from laptop
23:51 < SenkZ> ac100 is turned off
23:51 < SenkZ> nvflash is ready
23:52 < gildean> follow the guide, it should be quite clear on how to proceed
23:52 < SenkZ> i did
23:53 < SenkZ> but usb device was not found
23:53 < gildean> you plugged the miniusb on the ac100's usb-host port?
23:53 < SenkZ> on the right side
23:54 < SenkZ> there is a mini usb entry
23:54 < gildean> and plugged the other end to your ubuntu machine before turning the ac100 on
23:54 < SenkZ> for th ac100
23:54 < SenkZ> yes
23:54 < gildean> try again
23:54 < SenkZ> k
23:54 < SenkZ> how long i hold esc & ctrl?
23:54 < gildean> also try another usb port on your ubuntu machine if doesn't work
23:55 < gildean> around 10s of pressing should do the trick
23:55 < gildean> or 5
23:55 < gildean> never counted
23:55 < SenkZ> k
23:55 < SenkZ> same error
23:55 < SenkZ> seth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$ sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./nvflash/ ./nvflash/nvflash --bl ./prebuilt/fastboot.stock.bin --read 5 tegra_partition_5.bin --go [sudo] password for seth:  Nvflash started USB device not foundseth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$
23:55 < SenkZ> i need to turn down tha ac100 when i try other usb port?
23:56 < gildean> what does dmesg say?
23:56 < SenkZ> turn off*
23:56 < gildean> yes, you do
23:56 < SenkZ> Nvflash started USB device not foundseth@seth-Studio-1749:~/Downloads/linux4tegra_10.9.3$
23:56 < gildean> what does dmesg say?
23:57 < SenkZ> what is dmesg?
23:58 < SenkZ> holy crap
23:58 < SenkZ> other usb port works
23:58 < SenkZ> file recieved succesfully
--- Day changed Fri Apr 08 2011
00:01   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host78-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
00:01 < SenkZ> what button is select 1?
00:03 < SenkZ> hmm
00:03 < SenkZ> i pushed power button
00:03 < SenkZ> while holding home + 1
00:03 < SenkZ> than i got toshiba screen
00:04 < SenkZ> now i still have toshiba screen
00:04 < SenkZ> lol android started
00:09   >>> markitt!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
00:09 < SenkZ> whats button combination to boot ubuntu?
00:14   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
00:15   <   CarolusMagnus!~CarolusMa@p57B5162C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:17 < peterAC100> SenkZ:  "Plug the SD card into the SD slot of the ac100, hold down "Home" while pressing the power button.
00:17 < peterAC100> Once the recovery menu shows up, press 1."
00:17 < peterAC100> http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/
00:18 < SenkZ> thanks
00:19   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m77-218-191-218.cust.tele2.se
00:22 < SenkZ> phh: you here?
00:22   >>> soulrebel!~soulrebel@frnk-5f744fcc.pool.mediaWays.net
00:23 < justicelawetc> SenkZ: Does it not work ?
00:24 < SenkZ> im feeling close
00:24 < SenkZ> i have flashed bootloader of ac100 succesfully
00:24 < justicelawetc> SenkZ: what version Android does your Ac100 have please ?
00:24 < SenkZ> i have placed img on sd cart
00:24 < SenkZ> 2.2
00:24 < SenkZ> i recieved ac yesterday
00:24 < SenkZ> and did not update
00:24 < SenkZ> now
00:25 < SenkZ> when i hold home and press power button
00:25 < SenkZ> i get a option
00:25 < SenkZ> than i press 1
00:25 < SenkZ> after that i get some messages
00:25 < SenkZ> than it stops
00:25 < justicelawetc> SenkZ: It does not work with 2.2 :(
00:25 < phh> yet*
00:25 < SenkZ> than i have 2.
00:26 < SenkZ> 2.1
00:26 < justicelawetc> Well yes....
00:26 < SenkZ> i didnt update my android
00:26   >>> elementz!~elementz@unaffiliated/elementz
00:26 < SenkZ> my ac*
00:26 < SenkZ> [23:13] <SenkZ> waiting for devices done [23:13] <SenkZ> scanning for rootfs on /dev/mmcblk1p1 ... done [23:13] [23:14] <SenkZ> "/ # (blipping)_
00:26 < SenkZ> thats the screen i get
00:27 < SenkZ> phh you encountered this before?
00:28 < justicelawetc> phh: so how close might u b please ?
00:31 < SenkZ> i also get
00:31   <   LeBlack!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
00:32 < SenkZ> "/bin"/sh: can't acces tty; job control turned off
00:32 < SenkZ> without the qoutes than
00:32 < SenkZ> and i can type commandos
00:32 < SenkZ> "/ # (blipping)_
00:33   >>> markit!~markus@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
00:34 < markitt> didi it mount rootfs
00:34 < markitt> ls root/
00:35 < markitt> s/didi/did/
00:36   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m77-218-191-218.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
00:37 < markitt> what kind of rootfs do you have on /dev/mmcblk1p1
00:38   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
00:38 < markitt> can u manually mount it in the initrd shell?
00:40 < SenkZ> ?
00:40 < SenkZ> how to get / on ac100?
00:40 < justicelawetc> SenkZ: might worth looking here: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/thread/4273487/can%27t+access+tty
00:40 < SenkZ> its above 7
00:41 < markitt> german layout
00:41 < SenkZ> i didnt partition as ext3 but als nfls
00:41 < SenkZ> and yes german layout
00:42 < markitt> marvins initrd?
00:42 < SenkZ> ?
00:42 < markitt> u have to adapt the init script to not specify ext3,..
00:42 < SenkZ> which script?
00:42 < markitt> as is does mount -t ext3
00:42 < markitt> the init one,..
00:42 < markitt> " /init"
00:43 < SenkZ> i completely followed this tutorial
00:43 < SenkZ> http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
00:43   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:43 < SenkZ> but i cant type the / on my ac
00:43 < markitt> still not?
00:43 < markitt> tries the - next to the shift?
00:43   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
00:44 < SenkZ> that works
00:44   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
00:44 < SenkZ> so what command do i type to adept the ini?>
00:44 < markitt> than u have english layout on a german labeled keyboard,..
00:44 < markitt> hmm i`m not sure if its clever to try it while running,.
00:44 < markitt> as it will be gone at next boot
00:45 < SenkZ> ls root/
00:45 < SenkZ> does not return anything
00:45 < markitt> s/-t ext3/-t nilfs2/ < init > init2
00:45 < markitt> ./init2
00:46 < markitt> (return nothing) means rootfs is not mounted
00:46 < markitt> but instead of trying to fix it in the initrd system
00:47 < SenkZ> where does the
00:47 < SenkZ> ./init
00:47 < SenkZ> comes?
00:47 < markitt> either use an ext3 partition, or use abootimage, or similar to change your initrd image,..
00:47 < SenkZ> on same line or line below?
00:47 < markitt> next line
00:47 < markitt> first line changes ext3 to nilfs2 in the init script and saves it in init2,..
00:48 < SenkZ> "/bin/sh: s/: not found
00:48 < markitt> uups
00:48 < markitt> sed 's/-t ext3/-t nilfs2/' < init > init2
00:48 < SenkZ> should i re-do my sd card?
00:49 < markitt> would be easier as trying to change the initrd
00:49 < markitt> but ext3 is damn slow,..
00:50 < SenkZ> hmm
00:50 < SenkZ> i did the sed line
00:50 < SenkZ> but nothing happend really
00:50 < SenkZ> no error
00:50 < markitt> sdcards are too slow at random write access, so the journalling of ext3 is "undoable" for them
00:50 < SenkZ> just a new line
00:50 < markitt> thats fine *G
00:50 < SenkZ> i see
00:50 < SenkZ> lol
00:50 < SenkZ> but what do i type now?
00:50 < markitt> now try to start the ./init2
00:51 < SenkZ> permission denied
00:51 < markitt> sry
00:51 < markitt> no chmod afair,..
00:51 < SenkZ> you dont have to be sry
00:51 < SenkZ> i think ill resume this tomorrow
00:52 < SenkZ> or other day
00:52 < markitt> i forgot, the limitations here,..
00:52 < SenkZ> but what do you advise me?
00:52 < markitt> try this
00:52 < markitt> cp init init2
00:52 < markitt> than again
00:52 < markitt> sed 's/-t ext3/-t nilfs2/' < init > init2
00:52 < markitt> ./init2
00:53 < markitt> but i strongly recommend u search for another initrd, ..
00:54 < SenkZ> waiting for devices
00:54 < SenkZ> ROFL
00:54 < SenkZ> job control turned off
00:54 < SenkZ> where do i find another initrd?
00:55 < SenkZ> i tought gildean's tutorialw as good?
00:55 < SenkZ> udev[1503] init_udevd_socket: bind failed: Address already in use
00:55 < SenkZ> error initializing udevd socket
00:56 < SenkZ> udevd[1503]: main: error initializing udevd socket
00:56 < markitt> are u still in the shell?
00:56 < SenkZ> Waiting for devices ... done
00:56 < SenkZ> ye
00:56 < markitt> did u reboot?
00:56 < SenkZ> scanning for rootfs........
00:56 < SenkZ> job control turned off
00:56 < SenkZ> no i didnt reboot
00:56 < markitt> or when did this messages start "again"
00:56 < markitt> hmm do an ls /root/ again
00:57 < SenkZ> no response
00:57   <   soulrebel!~soulrebel@frnk-5f744fcc.pool.mediaWays.net [Quit: Leaving]
00:57   >>> soulrebel27!~soulrebel@frnk-5f744fcc.pool.mediaWays.net
00:57 < SenkZ> because of ./init2 it dit waiting for devices again
00:57 < markitt> hmm maybe do an mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /root
00:57   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-208-244.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:58 < markitt> but this is just for diagnose *G
00:58 < SenkZ> -mnt /dev/mmcblk1p1 /root
00:58 < SenkZ> ?
00:58   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-221-88.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
00:58 < markitt> mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /root
00:58 < SenkZ> no response
00:59 < SenkZ> wait
00:59 < SenkZ> ls /root/
00:59 < SenkZ> gives response
00:59 < SenkZ> now
00:59 < SenkZ> there a lot of #
00:59 < SenkZ> getprodu.ct= lost.dir
00:59   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host78-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Quit: Pechnet]
01:00 < SenkZ> and other stuff
01:00 < markitt> hmm so you mounted some thing
01:00 < markit> L4T  boot  dev  home  lost+found  mnt  proc    root  selinux   srv  system  usr
01:00 < markit> bin  data  etc  lib   media       opt   sbin   sys  tmp     var
01:01 < SenkZ> ?
01:01 < markitt> it should look very similar to this, else u have a strange rootfs
01:01 < SenkZ> it returns a lot of #
01:01 < SenkZ> like i said
01:01 < SenkZ> so maybe i burned img wrong to SD?
01:01 < markitt> and it simply does not boot as your sdcard has nothing bootable on it
01:01 < markitt> quite sure
01:02 < markitt> put it in your pc and mount it there
01:02 < SenkZ> when i runned this
01:02 < SenkZ> sudo tar xavf Ubuntu5.tar.lzma --numeric-owner -C /mnt
01:02 < SenkZ> i got some errors
01:02 < SenkZ> thats normal?
01:02 < markitt> no
01:02   >>> san4ez!~Miranda@217.172.18.183
01:02 < SenkZ> sd card in laptop
01:02 < markitt> you should get only a list of all files it puts onto it, a very long list,..
01:02 < markitt> but no errors,..
01:02 < SenkZ> unmount?
01:03 < markitt> what?
01:03 < SenkZ> ive put sd in my laptop
01:03   <   san4ez!~Miranda@217.172.18.183 []
01:03 < SenkZ> and shutdown ac
01:03 < markitt> so wha do u want to unmount *G
01:03 < SenkZ> shall i unmount the sd card?
01:03 < SenkZ> should*
01:03 < markitt> unmounting means "remove"
01:03 < markitt> you just inserted it, so u have to mount it
01:04 < markitt> if your laptop didn`t automaunt it already,..
01:04   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host78-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
01:04 < SenkZ> # tick your sd-card to the linux machine and don't let it automount.
01:04 < SenkZ> says http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
01:04 < markitt> i have no problem with automount,.
01:04 < SenkZ> k
01:04 < SenkZ> so its mounted
01:04 < markitt> we just want to know wahts on it,..
01:04 < SenkZ> lost.dir
01:04 < markitt> so automaounting save u from doing it manually *GGGG
01:04 < SenkZ> is on it
01:04 < markitt> thats not enough,..
01:05 < SenkZ> strange files or on it
01:05 < SenkZ> thats wrong i suppose?
01:05 < markitt> now its time to unmount, do an mkfs again
01:05 < markitt> mount it, and tar the stuff on it again,..
01:05 < markitt> and then check if they are on it *GG
01:05 < SenkZ> getting screenshot
01:06 < SenkZ> http://www.mediafire.com/?3q5ast3y330r9k5
01:06 < markitt> so back to step 3 in list,..
01:06 < SenkZ> :p
01:06 < SenkZ> ac100 is still flashed good
01:06 < SenkZ> so thats no prob
01:07 < SenkZ> mkfs?
01:07 < SenkZ> nvm
01:07 < SenkZ> the nilfs
01:08 < markitt> http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
01:08 < markitt> step 3++
01:08 < SenkZ> file system initialization syucceeded
01:09 < SenkZ> now mount and tar the stuff?
01:09 < markitt> what command did u exactly use?
01:09 < SenkZ> sudo mkfs -t nilfs2 /dev/mmcblk0p1
01:09 < SenkZ> now im going to use:
01:09 < markitt> hmm maybe
01:09 < SenkZ> sudo mount -t nilfs2 /dev/mmcblkXp1 /mnt
01:10 < markitt> no
01:10 < SenkZ> sudo mount -t nilfs2 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
01:10 < SenkZ> ?
01:10 < markitt> wait
01:10 < SenkZ> k
01:10 < markitt> do an fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
01:10 < SenkZ> mkfs.nilfs2 ver 2.0 Start writing file system initial data to the device        Blocksize:4096  Device:/dev/mmcblk0p1  Device Size:7956070400 File system initialization succeeded !!
01:10 < markitt> hmm looks good,
01:11 < SenkZ> cant open
01:11 < markitt> press p
01:11 < markitt> sudo fdisk
01:11 < SenkZ> Apparaat Opstart   Begin       Einde     Blokken   ID  Systeem /dev/mmcblk0p1               1        1241     7769600    b  W95 FAT32
01:11 < SenkZ> its fat32 :/
01:11 < SenkZ> WTF
01:12 < SenkZ> how to fix
01:12 < SenkZ> ?
01:12 < markitt> *GG
01:13 < SenkZ> ?
01:13 < SenkZ> *GG?
01:13 < markitt> no its just labeld as fat32
01:13 < SenkZ> ah k
01:13 < markitt> but it would be wise, to set the parition typs to linux
01:13 < SenkZ> okay
01:13 < SenkZ> command?
01:13 < markitt> man fdisk
01:13 < markitt> reading
01:13 < markitt> or u might get a away
01:14 < markitt> wih h
01:14 < markitt> press h
01:14 < SenkZ> there is no h option
01:14   <   tilmann!~t@f052200141.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
01:14 < markitt> ok *G
01:14 < markitt> ok m for help
01:15 < markitt> t
01:15 < markitt> 1
01:15 < markitt> 83
01:15 < markitt> or so,..
01:15 < SenkZ> i cant follow it
01:16 < markitt> than u have to do mcuh reading,.. *G
01:16 < SenkZ> so i sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
01:16 < markitt> t = change system id,..
01:16 < SenkZ> than i press t?
01:16 < markitt> than u enter partiton number and new system id, 83 = linux
01:16 < markitt> afterwaqards u save it,.
01:16 < SenkZ> after t 1?
01:16 < markitt> but just google around fdisk
01:17 < markitt> or tsype man fdisk into you shell, or whatever,..
01:17 < SenkZ> fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
01:17 < SenkZ> Opdracht (m voor hulp): t Geselecteerde partitie is 1 Hex-code (typ L om alle codes te tonen): 1 Systeemtype van partitie 1 is veranderd naar 1 (FAT12)
01:17 < markitt> yes
01:17 < SenkZ> i cant type 83
01:17 < markitt> hmm you netherlands fdisk,..
01:17 < markitt> might have different keys,..
01:18 < SenkZ> how you know its dutch? :p
01:18 < markitt> guestimating
01:18 < markitt> im german speaking,..
01:18 < SenkZ> so i can do man fdisk -h
01:18 < SenkZ> ?
01:19 < SenkZ> ah
01:19 < markitt> so i can guestimate this language a litlle bit *GG
01:19 < markitt> what is the output of
01:19 < markitt> m
01:19 < markitt>  in fdisk
01:19 < SenkZ> sec
01:20 < SenkZ> wheb i sudo man fdisk
01:20 < SenkZ> i get stupid manual
01:21 < markitt> imho its quite good manual,..
01:21 < markitt> much too read *GG
01:21 < markitt> much to learn,..
01:21 < SenkZ> yes i know
01:21 < SenkZ> but i cant type m
01:21 < SenkZ> or t
01:21 < markitt> m voor hulp
01:21 < markitt> it should give u a list of all commands,.
01:22 < markitt> not inside manual, inside fdisk,..
01:22 < SenkZ> it does
01:22 < markitt> what is t ?
01:22 < markitt> i guess aomething about changing system id,..
01:23 < markitt> as u have same shortcuts as in english/german/any langugage,..
01:23 < SenkZ> hmm
01:23 < SenkZ> t is not displayed on top
01:23 < SenkZ> how can i search?:
01:23 < markitt> on top?
01:23 < markitt> post the output of m here,..
01:23 < SenkZ> in manual yes
01:23 < markitt> no in program,..
01:24 < SenkZ> the output of man is huge
01:24 < markitt> no!!!!
01:24 < SenkZ> can we do teamviewer on linux?
01:24 < markitt> not of manual
01:24 < markitt> of the fdisk command,..
01:24 < markitt> last try:
01:24 < markitt> got back to shell
01:24 < SenkZ> ia m
01:24 < SenkZ> i am
01:24 < markitt> sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
01:25 < markitt> p
01:25 < markitt> m
01:25 < markitt> post the responses of fdisk here,..
01:25 < Unseen2> .o(sudo LC_MESSAGES=C fdisk ...)
01:25 < markitt> ??
01:25 < Unseen2> Forces english language
01:25 < SenkZ> sec, count mount /dev/mmcblk0
01:26 < markitt> ah good idea,..
01:26 < markitt> but i wnated to practive dutch, for fun,.. *G
01:26 < SenkZ> Opdracht  Actie    a      wel/niet als opstartbaar instellen    b      een BSD-schijflabel bewerken    c      wel/niet als DOS-compatibel instellen    d      een partitie verwijderen    l      alle bekende partitietypen opsommen    m      dit menu tonen    n      een nieuwe partitie toevoegen    o      een nieuwe, lege DOS-partitietabel maken    p      de partitietabel weergeven    q      afsluiten zonder wijzigingen op te slaan    s   
01:26 < SenkZ> shall i force english?
01:27 < markitt> this is all
01:27 < SenkZ> yes
01:27 < markitt> i did only see the text until s
01:27 < markitt> possible cuttet by chat program,..
01:27 < SenkZ>   s      een nieuw, leeg Sun-schijflabel maken    t      systeem-ID van partitie wijzigen    u      weergave/invoer-eenheid wijzigen    v      de partitietabel controleren    w      de tabel naar schijf schrijven en afsluiten    x      extra functionaliteit (alleen voor experts)
01:27 < SenkZ> this is all
01:27 < markitt> systeem-ID van partitie wijzigen
01:28 < SenkZ> yeah
01:28 < SenkZ> thats good
01:28 < markitt> so why did u say he is no t
01:28 < markitt> press t
01:28 < SenkZ> there was a t
01:28 < SenkZ> than i press 1
01:28 < markitt> it will ask for part number
01:28 < SenkZ> but i could enter 83
01:28 < markitt> exactly,..
01:28 < SenkZ> couldnt*
01:28 < markitt> why?
01:28 < markitt> press L
01:28 < SenkZ> oh waut
01:28 < SenkZ> it tells:
01:28 < Unseen2> fdisk won't ask for a partition number if there is only one
01:28 < SenkZ> Opdracht (m voor hulp): t Geselecteerde partitie is 1 Hex-code (typ L om alle codes te tonen):
01:28 < markitt> omg
01:28 < SenkZ> now i need to enter 83?
01:28 < markitt> so just enter 83
01:29 < SenkZ> ROFl
01:29 < SenkZ> i entered 1 then
01:29 < SenkZ> last time
01:29 < markitt> fat12
01:29 < SenkZ> now ill enter 83
01:29 < SenkZ> changed to linux :)
01:29 < markitt> thats why u changed from fat32 to fat12 *GG
01:29 < SenkZ> ye
01:30 < markitt> ok save it, do an mkfs again, for fun *G
01:30 < SenkZ> so now i mount and install image?
01:30 < markitt> mount it, and tar it,..
01:30 < markitt> and check if u have more than lost+found on it afterwards *G
01:31 < SenkZ> tarring
01:31 < SenkZ> tarring takes so long :/
01:32 < SenkZ> do i need to reinstall modules?
01:32 < markitt> yes
01:32 < markitt> but tha are not mandatory to boot,..
01:33 < SenkZ> holy fuck :/
01:33 < SenkZ> http://www.mediafire.com/?g6lrfidj7qlwbt4
01:34 < markitt> hmm what happened?
01:34 < markitt> i prefer not to click this link unless it important *GG
01:36 < SenkZ> strange files
01:36 < SenkZ> and tarring went short
01:36 < SenkZ> now i deleted everything
01:36 < SenkZ> and retarring
01:36 < markitt> hmm what command are using?
01:36 < SenkZ> sudo tar xavf /home/seth/Downloads/Ubuntu5.tar.lzma --numeric-owner -C /mnt
01:36 < markitt> and u mounted the card in /mnt?
01:37 < SenkZ> i believe so
01:37 < markitt> do an mount|gep mnt
01:37 < markitt> mount|grep mnt
01:38 < markitt> and post here *GG
01:38 < SenkZ> grep doesn open
01:38 < SenkZ> seth@seth-Studio-1749:~$ mount|grep mnt seth@seth-Studio-1749:~$ *GG *GG: command not found
01:39 < markitt> install it, if u really have no grep *GG
01:39 < gildean> your ubuntu is broken if you have no grep
01:39 < SenkZ> i do have grep
01:39 < markitt> but?
01:39 < SenkZ> i should have at least
01:39 < gildean> do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
01:40 < SenkZ> how can i not have grep
01:41 < markitt> haw can u not be able to untar things,.. *G
01:41 < SenkZ> lol
01:41 < SenkZ> seth@seth-Studio-1749:~$ sudo grep /home/seth/Documenten/ hallo exit
01:41 < SenkZ> on 3 lines
01:42 < SenkZ> guys i really need to go to bed
01:42 < SenkZ> ill try this later :/
01:43 < markitt> hmm grep takes the search string as first param, not the filename,..
01:44 < SenkZ> hmm
01:44 < markitt> but this prooves u have grep,..
01:44 < SenkZ> like i said
01:44 < markitt> if u got no "no such file" message,..
01:44 < SenkZ> how could i not have grep
01:44 < markitt> but what happened with
01:44 < markitt> mount|grep mnt
01:44 < SenkZ> i indeed dit NOT get that message
01:44 < SenkZ> no response on that command
01:45 < markitt> maybe you have no mount
01:45 < markitt> *GG
01:45 < SenkZ> during untar this happens:
01:45 < SenkZ> r: ./L4T/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.postinst: Kan eigenaar niet wijzigen naar UID 0, GID 0: Bewerking niet toegestaan ./L4T/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-utils.postinst
01:45 < markitt> hmm
01:45 < markitt> are u sure you sdcard is "intact"
01:46 < SenkZ> i recieved it yesterday a long with the laptop
01:46 < SenkZ> its a kingstong class 10 card
01:46 < markitt> maybe try ext2 insteead of nilfs
01:46 < markitt> but i had no problems with nilfs,..
01:47   >>> alexript!~alexript@89.112.7.20.pppoe.eltel.net
01:47 < markitt> but i`m using internal storage,..
01:47 < SenkZ> hm
01:47 < SenkZ> but is ext2 slower?
01:47 < markitt> as i want my sd slot to be empty,..
01:47 < markitt> not really
01:47 < markitt> ext2 has no journal *G
01:47 < SenkZ> whats prob with journal?
01:47 < markitt> writing jounal and files, is much worse than writing files alone,.
01:48 < markitt> but yes nilfs is best option,..
01:48 < markitt> but maybe its causing your problems,..
01:48 < markitt> but i think its the card *G
01:50 < markitt> but ext2 will just help u to get get a testrun,..
01:51 < markitt> or other error messages while untarring,.
01:51   <   SenkZ!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
01:53   >>> senkz!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71
01:53 < senkz> lol i unplugged SD and pc crashed
01:55 < markitt> hmm, maybe your problem is not the sdcard, ...
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02:01 < markitt> hmm one moment,.
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02:24   <   markitt!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at []
02:24   >>> markitt!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at
02:25 < markitt> wow i just managed to sht off wifi/3g ,..
02:25 < markitt> wow i just managed to shut off wifi/3g ,..
02:25 < markitt> so i have an ubuntu that can do 14h+ offline reading/writing,..
02:31 < markitt> but still "stock" android 2.2 image beats my by 250mW, but i`m already 150mW better than "stock" android 2.1,..
02:46   <   Morfeo!~Scid@189.161.108.22 ["Saliendo"]
02:52 < markitt> but the 250mw diff only apllies when the display is off,.. i guess the graphics could be powered down aswell,..
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03:36 < phh> markitt: 14h is with screen off ?
03:51 < phh> ok, sound is still running 10hours after I started it
03:51 < phh> I'd say it's stable.
04:04 < phh> and hum, dualboot won't be easy.
04:08 < markitt> no with screen on
04:09 < markitt> but its a theoretical value, ..
04:11 < markitt> based on 25Wh of battery
04:13 < phh> ah ok.
04:13 < phh> well, it would still be good
04:13 < markitt> i measured a minimum of 1.6W with screenon with a value of 30
04:13 < phh> markitt: err wait, where are you reading this power ?
04:13 < markitt> at the dc in of an ac100 withoud battery
04:13 < markitt> this is the easiest *G
04:13 < phh> ok
04:13 < markitt> so u could asume power consumption with battery <= my measurement
04:13 < phh> 19V ?
04:13 < phh> yeah
04:13 < markitt> with screen off it would need only 0.95W
04:13 < markitt> but android 2.2 manages to go down deeper )-;
04:13 < markitt> 19.15V
04:13 < phh> ok, so i'd say the conversation ratio should be better on battery @ 11V no ?
04:13 < phh> well, the 25Wh aren't real 25Wh though.
04:13 < markitt> jep it should,
04:13 < phh> how much does android go to with screen on ?
04:14 < markitt> more *G
04:14 < markitt> as it lowest screen setting is far higher than wahts possible,..
04:14 < markitt> but this is only useable in dark rooms *G
04:15 < markitt> at full display brightness android areoplane mode and .29 with rfkill + unbinded rt2870 was the same
04:16 < markitt> this was infact the trick, unbinding the device from driver saves power, while unloading driver keeps wifi somewhat in previous state,...
04:16 < phh> huhu
04:16 < markitt> differnece is >550mW
04:16 < markitt> but i stil have problems with 3G
04:17 < markitt> infact it poweres down nicely alone, but not always *G
04:17 < phh> huhu
04:17 < phh> i'll have to try that
04:17 < phh> i'm always without wifi and with ethernet
04:17 < markitt> regarding display off, i guess andoird 2.2 poweres down graphics core aswell,.
04:18 < markitt> whatever it does it can go down to 600mW with darkened screen,..
04:18 < markitt> furthermore i did mayn tests with cpufreq today,..
04:19 < markitt> when running on one core, clocking down is useles,..
04:19 < markitt> even contraproductive at <=100mhz
04:20 < markitt> but on stangely when 2 cores are active, the clock does matter (in idle) *G
04:20 < phh> clock matters in idle ?!?
04:20 < phh> wow....
04:20 < phh> that's not an ARM in there.
04:21 < markitt> usually 2nd core get shut down
04:21 < markitt> as sonn as first core is below 334 mhz
04:21 < markitt> but if i do not allow clocks under 334 with cpufreq,.. *G
04:21 < phh> both core starts ?
04:21 < markitt> it stays on and wastes power,..
04:21 < phh> ah
04:21 < phh> yeah cpufreq stuff are kind of buggy
04:21 < markitt> at 667 mhz second core goes on
04:22 < phh> sometimes to goes to 1GHz or 667MHz and stays there ...
04:22 < phh> 667MHz is 1GHz with thermal protection it seems to me
04:22 < markitt> current low power setup is fixed 666mhz *G
04:22 < markitt> when needing more power allawing 333 to 1ghz *G
04:23 < markitt> mine already overheated,..
04:23 < markitt> when doing some benchmarks, also with android *G
04:23 < markitt> tegra needs a proper heatsink, imho or mine is faulty *G
04:23 < phh> s/proper// ? :D
04:24 < markitt> jep a peace of metal somehow lying on it, is not enough,..
04:25 < markitt> hmm how well did the flashplayer from atrix work?
04:26 < markitt> btw i have soem other issue, from time to time my device goes to 40mhz and stays there (that was why i started plaing with cpufreq *G)
04:26 < markitt> as fixed 40mhz can be a big problem to even save current work *G
04:27 < markitt> current workaround is to not allow low freqencies, so if its starts hanging, it is an useable clock *G,..
04:28 < markitt> is this a "known" .29/l4T issue?
04:28 < markitt> any better workarounds?
04:36 < phh> err no clue
04:41 < markitt> ok
04:42 < markitt> hmm its not the 3g that causes my problems,..
04:43 < markitt> after one suspend something consumes 200mW more than before, but it`s not 3g, as i fi turn it on the delta of 200mW is still there,..
04:44 < markitt> hmm whatever, time for sleep,..
04:45 < markitt> in the weekend i have to clean up all this power stuff, into my powermangament dameon, ..
04:46 < markitt> it already handles everyting i know so far, but it`s not safe to use, one must know which keyboard shortcuts u can use in which order *G
04:47 < markitt> e.g. turning off the display and than going into standby, means resume will crash at the moment, ..
04:48 < markitt> after this i think i can "release" it,..
04:48   >>> harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
04:50 < phh> pfffff webgl is a total fail
04:53   <   harms1!~harms@84.48.93.40 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
04:53 < phh> time to sleep I'd say
04:54 < markitt> hmm i guess in your timezone it`s still reasonable late *G
04:54 < phh> not really.
04:55 < markitt> *G
04:55 < markitt> i jsut decided to find out what consuming the last 200mW i dont want to tolerate,..
04:58 < phh> lol
04:58 < markitt> its neither wifi nor 3g
04:59 < markitt> as they are physically disconnected *G
05:00 < markitt> and the wifi does defintely need no power when using unbind, as unplugging it changes absolutely nothing *GG
05:00 < phh> :)
05:01 < markitt> but of course inserting, fires it up again,..
05:01 < phh> you tried setting all usb bus back to autosleep ?
05:01 < markitt> sure
05:02 < markitt> i have keyboard shortcut for this,..
05:02 < markitt> similar to the funny android setting that allows "usb-hub power down" and needs reboot *GG
05:03 < markitt> maybe its hdmi,..
05:03 < phh> plug/unplug ? :p
05:03 < phh> but hum, could be just anything
05:03 < markitt> jes,..
05:04 < phh> same backlight level ? :D
05:04 < markitt> off
05:04 < phh> fair enough.
05:05 < markitt> waah keyboard gone,
05:05 < phh> lol
05:05 < markitt> not really gone, but only my daemon shortcuts works anymore, strange bug,..
05:06 < phh> perhaps your daemon is frozen on some task
05:06 < markitt> yes, as now it does itself not work aswell
05:07 < phh> if you need help i'd be glad to help you
05:08 < markitt> thx,..
05:08 < markitt> what i need is a kernel as stable or better as .29 but newer,..
05:08 < markitt> i tried .37 but it was a catstrophe,..
05:08 < phh> yeah well .32 should get here soon
05:09 < markitt> suspend & sound ?
05:09 < phh> yes
05:09 < phh> err well
05:09 < phh> I haven't tested suspend I think
05:09 < markitt> hmm thats most important *GG
05:09 < phh> yeah well, i'm expecting it to work since it works on .29 :p
05:10 < markitt> jep
05:10 < phh> sounds like a  bad expectation.
05:10 < markitt> btw i have a strange issue with keyboard driver
05:10 < phh> markitt: stuck keys ?
05:10 < markitt> with .37 it was just working as it should, so its not the hardware *GG
05:11 < markitt> the alt-gr button is very strange,.
05:11 < markitt> its keycode and so seem to be fine,..
05:11 < markitt> but infact only pressing it after the "other" key does work *G
05:11 < phh> Oo
05:11 < markitt> the full workaround is
05:12 < markitt> press alt-gr press key i want 3rd character from
05:12 < markitt> release/repress alt-gr for a fraction of a second
05:12 < phh> how the hell did you find that ? -_-'
05:13 < markitt> be happy if it worked, be amused if i have normal character + 3rd, or ...
05:13 < markitt> hmm luck *G
05:13 < phh> well alt-gr always worked for me after giving proper values to xorg.conf
05:14 < markitt> ok what values?
05:14 < phh> XkbModel/XkbLayout
05:14 < markitt> that should be ok for me,..
05:14 < phh> well, the proper xorg.conf ? :D
05:14 < markitt> it looks correct what i did there,..
05:14 < phh>  /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf
05:15 < markitt> what should be there ?
05:15   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.177.143 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
05:15 < phh> the xorg.conf
05:15 < markitt> *G
05:17 < markitt> and just specifying keyboardmodel and layot there shoudl do it?
05:17 < phh> yeah
05:17 < markitt> repeat rate and so aswell?
05:17 < phh> what about repeat rate ?
05:18 < markitt> it behaves funny, when trying to adjust over the gui *GG
05:18 < phh> yeah well there is hardware-side keyboard repeat rate
05:18 < phh> that kind of conflicts.
05:18 < markitt> hmm another question?
05:18 < phh> yeah ?
05:18 < markitt> what is Xephir needed for?
05:19 < phh> cursor.
05:19 < phh> without it, the cursor blinks
05:19 < markitt> hmm
05:19 < phh> .32 doesn't need it \o/
05:19 < markitt> good, as it needs much cpu jsut for this *G
05:19 < phh> :D
05:19 < phh> and disables opengl
05:20 < phh> and console kit
05:20 < phh> and other useful stuff
05:21 < markitt> console kit?
05:21 < phh> thing to allow stuff to do things :D
05:21 < phh> like mounting usb key from gui
05:21 < markitt> ah ok, this i don`t miss *G
05:22 < phh> i don't either, but well, users you know :D
05:24 < phh> i think it should also help this keyboard stuff, no need to edit Xorg.conf
05:24 < phh> but hum, on .32 I just can't do any setxkmap -_-'
05:24 < phh> I remember I already had that problem on .29
05:24 < phh> but I can't remember how i fixed that
05:27 < markitt> hmm, i try to always write my private logfiles what i do,.
05:27 < markitt> but this does also not work reliable always *GG
05:28 < phh> oh well, i'm pretty sure it's written in this channel's log.
05:28 < markitt> so happy grepping *G
05:28 < phh> yeah well, my server's dead.
05:29 < markitt> hmm how did u plan the dual boot with android 2.2?
05:30 < markitt> wow alt-gr is jsut working,..
05:30 < markitt> i just didn`t think that in the L4T is another xorg.conf *GGG
05:30 < markitt> waah *G
05:31 < markitt> this touchpad is so sensitive,..
05:31 < markitt> you can defintely use it without touching it *G
05:31 < markitt> ah the f9 key that toggles it,..
05:32 < markitt> is it done by hardware, or software?
05:32 < markitt> i would like to use this key and this feature indepently *G
05:34 < markitt> keyboard rate is also better,..  big thanks !
05:37 < markitt> btw 1.37W online via usb ethernet (display off)
05:38 < markitt> better than wifi, but worse than 3g online
05:48 < markitt> 950mW offline (display off)
05:48 < markitt> +420-500mW usb || 0/1500 - 2500mW 3g || 1300-1500mW wifi
05:52 < markitt> 3g has 2 nice standby steps,.. from 350mW it awakes within 300ms, from <10mW within 2300ms
05:52 < markitt> but if its awake it needs much )-;
05:53 < markitt> awake, hmm gotta sleep really,..
05:57   <   markitt!~Markus_Ki@wifi.nord27.wien.funkfeuer.at [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
07:38   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Quit: Leaving.]
08:33   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
08:51   <   AlainS!~alain@xdsl-188-154-98-184.adslplus.ch [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
09:10   >>> svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78
09:11   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
09:44   >>> zommi!~quassel@nat/ibm/x-ldftimxoswbcwxsw
09:50   >>> xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123
09:57   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
10:09   <   xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
10:21   <   stenzel!~stenzel@p5DC6A7B2.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
10:22   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-206-070.pools.arcor-ip.net
10:25   >>> macau!~opera@217.118.78.99
10:25   <   macau!~opera@217.118.78.99 []
10:27   >>> xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123
10:33   <   xzerth!~vasya@87.255.14.123 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
10:54   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7D769.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat]
10:56   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-206-070.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
11:01   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
11:17   >>> AlainS!~alain@17-63.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch
11:23 < arune> phh: <4>[    8.414137] I2C Transaction with 3c write :00 00 00
11:23 < arune> means i2c write to 3c with data 00 00 00? which should be write data 00 00 to register 00?
11:24 < arune> better example: <4>[    8.416440] I2C Transaction with 3c write :3a 04 00
11:24 < arune> write 04 00 to register 3a?
11:30   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
11:31   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
11:31   >>> t0yn!~t0yn@91-208-209-29.srs6.net
11:31 < t0yn> good morning everyone
11:35   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-pqlsotxgrxnqbhca
11:39   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
11:41   >>> farmboy!~yaaic@host86-153-44-106.range86-153.btcentralplus.com
11:48   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
12:38   >>> hen3ry!bcdec8ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.222.200.206
12:39 < hen3ry> Hello. Apologies for just barging in, but can anyone recommend a guide for removing the android from an ac100-10Z and installing Ubuntu?
12:39 < ogra_> see the channel topic it has urls
12:40 < hen3ry> Sadly, I have updated android to 2.2 without taking a backup, and would much prefer Ubuntu.
12:40 < hen3ry> Ogra_: I have tried following the guide at http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/ without success
12:41 < hen3ry> This seems to be based on the guide at http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/HOWTO+Experimental?t=anon
12:41 < ogra_> well, if you upgraded to 2.2 i'm not sure if there is a working boot.img yet
12:41 < ogra_> the bootloader changed in 2.2
12:41   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.177.143
12:41 < hen3ry> Both assume that I want to dual-boot. Is there any way to just boot Ubuntu?
12:42 < hen3ry> I see. Thank you for the prompt answer. I shall try downgrading to android 2.1.
13:03 < minimec> hen3ry: I am in the same sitiation as you. I guess that backup/replace partiton 5 would allow to boot ubuntu via USB/SD Card, but you 'loose' Android 2.2. Restoring partition 5 afterwards should give you back Android 2.2 I will verify that this late afternoon and try to install Ubuntu on my ac100-111.
13:04 < minimec> hen3ry: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/HOWTO
13:10 < phh> arune: yes
13:32   >>> xzerth!~vasya@89.109.250.102
13:49   >>> woglinde!~henning@p5DDC09F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:54 < phh> "There is no ETA at the moment, I presume it will take AT LEAST a few weeks, but could easily take longer."
13:54 < phh> FU
13:54 < scoopr> l4t?
13:54 < phh> yeah
13:54 < scoopr> :(
13:58 < woglinde> hi
13:58 < woglinde> phh sound?
13:58 < phh> woglinde: hasn't crashed at all :p
13:59 < woglinde> I meant sound for .37
13:59 < phh> pfff
13:59 < phh> I gave the logs
13:59 < phh> just do exactly the same thing :p
13:59 < phh> arune: ah and for read parts
13:59 < phh> you write one byte, that is the address
13:59 < phh> and you read back
14:01   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net [Quit: Bonjour !]
14:02 < arune> phh: eg read :59 b4 means address 59 data b4?
14:02 < phh> arune: not at all
14:02 < phh> arune: take the line just before
14:02 < phh> it's a one-byte length write
14:02 < phh> that's the address
14:02 < phh> and the data is 0x59b4
14:02 < arune> aha
14:02 < phh> well 0xb459 because of endian
14:03 < phh> (well, to be explicit, it's MSB first in I2C)
14:03 < arune> so whenever there is a one-byte write, its for reading
14:03 < phh> yup
14:03 < arune> thanks
14:04 < arune> write :00 00 00, I guess is meaningless since register 0 is read-only
14:05 < phh> no
14:05 < phh> it's a reset
14:05 < arune> ah, right
14:08 < arune> write :3a 04 00 would be Speaker amplifier power
14:09 < arune> Power On
14:12   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
14:19 < marvin24> arune: look at the datasheet
14:19 < marvin24> 00 @ 00 is reset
14:19 < arune> marvin24: yes, found it
14:19 < marvin24> and b459 is the default value of the reg
14:20 < arune> did I get the bit order correct for 3a above? (Speaker amplifier power: Power On)?
14:24 < marvin24> yep
14:24 < marvin24> the is no reg 0x400
14:27 < marvin24> arune: are you trying to write a driver or are you just trying to unstand what's done?
14:28 < arune> marvin24: I would really like to adapt the 5623-driver, but I dont think I will ever get time for it
14:29 < arune> I would learn a lot about kernel driver which is on my wishlist, and I think I have enough hw knowledge
14:30 < arune> but a full time job daytime and a two week baby at home... :)
14:32   >>> kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194
14:34   <   kottt!~Anton_Sel@95.140.95.194 []
14:43   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.177.143 [Remote host closed the connection]
14:51   >>> simnic!~simon@dslb-094-223-122-068.pools.arcor-ip.net
14:54 < marvin24> arune: given that, you may want to make your findings public to avoid double work
14:55 < marvin24> (document the init procedure)
14:58 < arune> marvin24: yes, maybe that work will help someone else
14:59 < woglinde> marvin do we have for sure not the same audio codec as other harmony based boards?
15:00   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
15:00 < marvin24> for sure
15:01 < marvin24> harmony wm8903, paz00 alc5632
15:02   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
15:04   <   xzerth!~vasya@89.109.250.102 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
15:14   <   t0yn!~t0yn@91-208-209-29.srs6.net [Quit: Quitte]
15:16   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
15:18   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
15:18   >>> bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35
15:19 < marvin24> rt5623.c  #define rt5623_reset(c) rt5623_write(c, 0x0, 0)
15:19 < marvin24> ;-)
15:21 < woglinde> hm
15:22 < marvin24> next is: rt5623_write(codec, RT5623_PWR_MANAG_ADD3, 0x8000);//enable Main bias
15:22 < marvin24>  rt5623_write(codec, RT5623_PWR_MANAG_ADD2, 0x2000);//enable Vref
15:22 < marvin24> rt5623_set_bias_level(codec, SND_SOC_BIAS_STANDBY);
15:22 < woglinde> hm I thought you are using the other rt clock
15:25 < marvin24> rt = realtek
15:25 < marvin24> alc ?
15:25 < marvin24> maybe bought by realtek
15:27 < woglinde> hm oh
15:27 < woglinde> okay
15:27 < woglinde> I thought it meants realtime clock
15:29 < woglinde> marvin is this from .32 kernel=
15:29 < woglinde> ?
15:29 < marvin24> no, marvell dove
15:29 < woglinde> hm
15:30 < woglinde> so we can clone it?
15:30 < marvin24> but the reset seems to be standard to all codecs
15:30 < marvin24> copy may be easier
15:30 < woglinde> do you have a link or is it intern canonical stuff?
15:30 < marvin24> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/codecs/rt5623.c;h=9167e325aef799b0e0db5272d6cb692e94326e83;hb=mvl-dove
15:31 < marvin24> they never commited it to mainline
15:31 < marvin24> thanks ubuntu!
15:32 < woglinde> hm do you will test it?
15:32 < woglinde> I will try it this evening
15:35 < marvin24> it's not 5632 - note: 23 != 32
15:35 < marvin24> there is also some clue driver missing (in soc/tegra/paz00.c)
15:35 < marvin24> but I may setup some stub driver
15:36 < marvin24> oh: http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/codecs/alc5623.c;h=4f377c9e868d48483019820402aa6e80519fff58;hb=0ae06dc83a11c27f0b63cefd9a9ee7242a575342
15:36 < marvin24> I'll take that "thank ubuntu" back
15:37 < woglinde> hm why they renamed it
15:37 < woglinde> hm
15:37 < marvin24> they don't know their own name
15:37 < marvin24> happens sometimes
15:38 < woglinde> hm looks a bit diffrent anyway
15:38 < marvin24> identity crisis
15:38 < woglinde> but thats promising
15:38 < woglinde> sound!!!!!!!!!
15:39 < marvin24> the ubuntu driver is for .32 while the driver in alsa is for current kernel
15:39 < woglinde> yes
15:39 < woglinde> I looked at the history
15:40 < woglinde> hm now I cannt wait to get home
15:42 < woglinde> ah intressting
15:42 < woglinde> hp device is using it
15:42 < woglinde> This patch is adding support for hp t5325 thin clients.
15:42 < woglinde> There's a alc5623 codec connected to the i2s interface.
15:43 < woglinde> so we need to write such an glue file too
15:43 < woglinde> http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/kirkwood/kirkwood-t5325.c;h=51b52e31cb0b89bdd5e735fed1a83c4c8d7c54fc;hb=d906401114861585c990ff0290c002b5d22fc71a
15:49 < marvin24> only in sound/soc/tegra/...
15:50 < woglinde> hm
15:52 < woglinde> hm like the seabord one?
15:52   >>> MMind|2!~kvirc@p5DDA9025.dip.t-dialin.net
15:54 < arune> will it be helpfull to create a 5632-port if I documented the i2c-startup of .32?
15:59 < marvin24> sure
16:00 < woglinde> hm oh I could ask xora to help a bit
16:01 < marvin24> xora?
16:07 < woglinde> Graeme Gregory
16:25   <   simnic!~simon@dslb-094-223-122-068.pools.arcor-ip.net [Remote host closed the connection]
16:32   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-221-88.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
16:32   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-210-106.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
16:51   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
16:52 < woglinde> re marvin24
16:52 < marvin24_DT> he
16:52 < marvin24_DT> thank god it's we!
16:52 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
16:54 < woglinde> hm
16:54 < woglinde> hehe
16:54 < woglinde> beer
16:54 < woglinde> you are finished quiet early
17:02   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
17:03   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-210-106.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
17:03   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
17:04   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-237-63.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
17:05   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
17:06 < marvin24_DT> looks like there is something wrong with cdc_ether on 2.6.39rc2
17:09   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
17:12   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
17:12   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
17:13   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-237-63.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
17:13   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-213-178.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
17:16   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
17:18   <   MMind|2!~kvirc@p5DDA9025.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
17:19 < woglinde> marvin hm
17:25   <   shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net [Read error: Operation timed out]
17:25   >>> shadow89_at_work!~shadow89_@swktn.azuria.net
17:27   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Remote host closed the connection]
17:31   >>> dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz
17:32 < marvin24_DT> even worse, ec stop working
17:32 < woglinde> hm
17:32 < woglinde> why you test .39 now?
17:34   >>> dormant1!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be
17:34   <   svp!~JoLi@62.112.106.78 []
17:35 < marvin24_DT> I mean on my host
17:36 < woglinde> ?
17:36 < woglinde> hm
17:36 < woglinde> ah ojay
17:38 < dormant1> hello
17:38 < dormant1> anyone here have ubuntu running on their ac100 ?
17:39   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
17:39 < arganeau> "running" but nilfs no cleaned...
17:39 < dormant1> nilfs ?
17:40 < arganeau> nilfs_cleanerd is supposed to clean the nilfs key, but...
17:42 < dayweek> Hi! I don't see my AC in /dev directory of my PC anymore. Has anybody experienced that? I wrote a post about that - no response yet. http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/thread/4541535/Toshiba+is+not+in+%2Fdev
17:43 < dayweek> AC was in recovery mode (I hope!) and connected to my Ubuntu machine.
17:43 < dayweek> via USB cable
17:44 < woglinde> dayweek check udev is running
17:45 < dayweek> woglinde: checking
17:48 < dayweek> root       298  0.0  0.0   2392   472 ?        S    08:15   0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
17:48 < dayweek> root       301  0.0  0.0   2764   496 ?        S<s  08:15   0:00 udevd --daemon
17:48 < dayweek> root      4227  0.0  0.0   2760   240 ?        S<   13:10   0:00 udevd --daemon
17:48 < dayweek> root      4228  0.0  0.0   2760   404 ?        S<   13:10   0:00 udevd --daemon
17:48 < dayweek> david     6953  0.0  0.0   4012   736 pts/2    S+   16:46   0:00 grep udev
17:49 < dayweek> woglinde: seems working
17:50 < woglinde> hm
17:50 < woglinde> so /dev entries should be there
17:53 < dayweek> woglinde: yes. I did not do anything weird. Just installing KDE and KDM on my AC:) Could some installed app or update on my AC break it?
17:53 < woglinde> hm not really
17:53 < woglinde> only udev
17:54 < dayweek> maybe update of my udev broke it. some new udev rule
17:55 < woglinde> hm
17:55 < woglinde> shouldnt
17:55 < woglinde> is there something in /var/log/syslog?
17:56 < minimec> dayweek: just an idea for a test. Would you be able to connect to your computer in Android and debugging mode? --> How does the computer see the ac100?
17:58   >>> mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru
17:58 < mmarc__> hi guys
17:58 < mmarc__> it is correct there is no KMS for tegra in arm 2.6.29 kernels around?
17:59 < woglinde> ?
17:59 < woglinde> there is no KMS at all
17:59 < dayweek> woglinde: last line Apr  8 16:47:30 david-laptop kernel: [22517.840088] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
17:59 < mmarc__> *is it
17:59 < woglinde> dayweek aeh what we are talking about?
17:59 < woglinde> dayweek /dev dir on the ac100 or your host?
17:59 < dayweek> woglinde: the same as in dmesg | tail
17:59 < dayweek> "is there something in /var/log/syslog?"
18:00 < dayweek> host
18:00 < mmarc__> ookay, so is it possible to get the wayland working without kms?
18:00 < woglinde> mmarc dont know
18:01 < woglinde>  didnt get how wayland really works
18:01 < mmarc__> wayland doc says it needs kms, that seems to be the only serious issue on the list. Cairo should be compilable with hardware-accelerated GL binaries.
18:01 < woglinde> there are to many layers invovled
18:01 < woglinde> mesa dri drm
18:01 < woglinde> gsgk
18:01 < woglinde> ups gsgl
18:02 < mmarc__> mesa - for gles, thus could be omitted
18:02 < dayweek> minimec: I don't get it exactly. should I boot Android and connect it to my PC with USB? What debugging mode?
18:03 < mmarc__> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/tree/README
18:04 < mmarc__> no dri/drm
18:04 < marvin24_DT> mmarc__: nvidia has its own driver infrastructure
18:04 < marvin24_DT> it only provides a basic framebuffer
18:04 < marvin24_DT> or accel via opengles
18:05 < minimec> dayweek: Yes. I fyou have the Android SDK installed, you should be able to connect via the 'adb' software. --> command If you don't have that installed, you should be able to mount it as USB storage device.
18:05 < minimec> dayweek: --> adb shell
18:05 < woglinde> dayweek sou probably need abd running with root rights
18:05 < woglinde> try sudo adb
18:06 < dayweek> minimec: now I see. I think I don't have SDK installed
18:06 < minimec> woglinde: YOu do not need sudo rights with adb in 10.10.
18:06 < minimec> woglinde: In fact.. I don't.
18:06 < dayweek> minimec: you mean my host PC?
18:07 < minimec> dayweek: Yes. Are you using win/mac/linux on host pc?
18:07 < dayweek> minimec: ubuntu 10.10
18:07 < mmarc__> marvin24_DT: wayland itself seems not depending on any graphics stuff at all, I've just compiled it on ac100 with fedora-arm. Wayland's specific, as I understand is that clients need to render themselves, where exactly the accelerated opengles could be used...
18:07 < minimec> dayweek: Stupid me ;) i remember...
18:09 < minimec> dayweek: So download the SDK here http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and extract it somewhere on your computer. I have an ac100 directory.
18:09 < mmarc__> I just don't understand why it needs KMS, and where to get it. The answer probably is: nowhere.
18:10 < minimec> dayweek: go to that new /ac100/android-sdk-xxx direcotry in /tools and run the 'android' file
18:10   >>> lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
18:11   <   AlainS!~alain@17-63.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:11 < minimec> dayweek: Download the Andorid SDK Platform tools in 'Available packages'.
18:12 < minimec> dayweek: Now you have adb installed. You find it in /ac100/and...x86/platform-tools
18:13 < saraedum> hi. when I try to start X I get an FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Inappropriate ioctl for device -- any ideas what could be causing this?
18:14 < marvin24_DT> not implemented
18:14 < dayweek> minimec: almost done
18:15   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
18:15 < saraedum> i.e. should fb work for X or should I use something different?
18:16 < dayweek> minimec: ok. adb is set up.
18:17 < marvin24_DT> saraedum: fb should work without problems
18:17 < marvin24_DT> anything else depends
18:17 < minimec> dayweek: ok. change to that platform-tools directory on a console cd /ac100/and... and run the command 'adb shell'
18:18 < saraedum> marvin24_DT: ok. good to know. but this particular error isn't known?
18:18 < minimec> dayweek: Oh. COnnect the ac100 in debugging mode first ;)
18:19 < marvin24_DT> saraedum: it is not fatal - is it?
18:19 < dayweek> minimec: error: device not found:) you mean recovery mode?
18:20 < dayweek> I don't know how to get it to debugging mode
18:20   <   stenzel!~stenzel@nat/ibm/x-pqlsotxgrxnqbhca [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
18:20 < woglinde> dayweek inside the ac100 options on android on your ac100
18:20 < minimec> dayweek: no. You start android. In the menu you activate debunging mode in ->applications >dev I think. then connect the ac100. adb device and adb shell are commands to verify the connection.
18:24 < minimec> dayweek: In your case the exact command would be: ./adb devices or ./adb shell in the ~/platform-tools dir.
18:24 < dayweek> minimec: There is Email, Documents To Go, Evernote, fring... but nothing to do with debugging mode
18:25 < woglinde> *sighÜ
18:25 < woglinde> thats hardcase
18:25 < woglinde> on the last row you have more options
18:25 < woglinde> widgets and options
18:26 < dayweek> minimec: Widgets Bookmarks Settings
18:26 < woglinde> settings
18:26 < saraedum> marvin24_DT: oh...I just found out that it's actually not. I'm stupid ;) sorry to bother you.
18:27 < minimec> dayweek: -> settings -> settings
18:27 < dayweek> woglinde: Desktop settings, Settings
18:27 < minimec> dayweek: -> settings -> settings
18:27 < woglinde> settings
18:27 < dayweek> got it!
18:27 < dayweek> USB debugging?
18:27 < woglinde> bingo
18:28 < dayweek> david@david-laptop:~/Documents$ dmesg | tail
18:28 < dayweek> [23647.378145] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 3
18:28 < dayweek> [23647.504200] hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 4
18:28 < dayweek> [24956.356095] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
18:28 < dayweek> [24956.934787] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
18:28 < dayweek> [24956.935068] scsi2 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0
18:28 < dayweek> [24956.935500] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
18:28 < dayweek> [24956.935509] USB Mass Storage support registered.
18:28 < dayweek> [24957.946480] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TOSHIBA  AC_AND_AZ        0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
18:28 < dayweek> [24957.952303] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
18:28 < dayweek> [24957.974447] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
18:29 < minimec> dayweek: Ou should paste.ubuntu.com ... ;)
18:29 < woglinde> nextime please use a pastebin
18:29 < dayweek> I activated it and this is output from my pc
18:29 < dayweek> sorry
18:29 < woglinde> yes
18:29 < woglinde> thats it
18:29 < woglinde> now you can use adb
18:30 < minimec> dayweek: In your case the exact command would be: ./adb devices or ./adb shell in the ~/platform-tools dir.
18:31 < dayweek> lol? sudo ./adb shell
18:31 < dayweek> error: insufficient permissions for device
18:31 < minimec> dayweek: now woglinde is right and we gonna try it with sudo ;)
18:31 < minimec> dayweek: sudo ./adb devices
18:31   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
18:32 < dayweek> List of devices attached
18:32 < dayweek> ????????????	no permissions
18:32 < dayweek> I typed the correct password
18:33 < dayweek> those 2 lines are the output
18:34   <   mirco!~mirco@pd95b6029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
18:34 < gildean> i know what has happened, android had broken permissions to /storage
18:34 < gildean> happened to me once
18:34 < minimec> dayweek: I get the same. On my old dektop install Ubuntu 9.10 I can access it right away...
18:35 < minimec> dayweek: But there I have an entry in my .bashrc
18:38 < dayweek> (I have made a back up of partitions 2 - 13. not 14. so maybe when I restored it several times it broke)
18:38 < dayweek> I am listening guys:)
18:38   >>> gipIt!~Miranda@host217-137-static.43-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
18:38 < gipIt> hello
18:39 < gipIt> any news on Ubuntu and Android 2.2??
18:39 < minimec> dayweek: Well at least you now, that ubuntu sees you ac100. Try to disable debbuging mode now while USB still connected. You will have the option to mount it as mass storage.
18:39 < woglinde> gipIt .37 runs with ubuntu 2.2 bootloader
18:40 < dayweek> minimec: ac100: USB Connected -> Mount
18:40 < gipIt> woglinde : do you know if there is an upgraded howto?
18:41 < minimec> dayweek: mount it once. YOu should have your /storage in the file-manager now.
18:42   <   guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net [Remote host closed the connection]
18:43   >>> mirco_iP!~mircoip@tmo-101-49.customers.d1-online.com
18:44 < dayweek> minimec: PC: last line in dmesg | tail: [25794.715484]  sdb: unknown partition table
18:44 < dayweek> minimec: now I can mount it in KDE on my PC I suppose
18:44 < woglinde> gipIt you need to compile your own kernel and get familiar with abootimg
18:45 < woglinde> nothing for enduser yet
18:45 < minimec> dayweek: You should with the file-manager
18:45 < gipIt> woglinde : cna i found you here on Monday for some advice?
18:46 < dayweek> minimec: yes. it is opened in dolphin
18:46 < dayweek> minimec: bin boot data ...
18:46 < woglinde> gipIt dont know
18:46 < minimec> dayweek: So ubuntu sees the device.
18:46 < woglinde> but there are others which can help
18:46 < dayweek> minimec: yup
18:47 < woglinde> gipIt and you can only choose one to boot either android or ubuntu
18:47 < woglinde> you have to reflash for switching os
18:47 < minimec> dayweek: That's a good sign, isn't it ;)
18:47 < dayweek> minimec: yes, it is:)
18:49 < minimec> dayweek: Now power down completely the device and stat in flash mode.
18:50 < dayweek> minimec: you mean start in recovery mode?
18:51 < dayweek> minimec: unmounting..
18:51 < minimec> dayweek: yes. unmount it and shutdown the device.
18:52 < gipIt> woglinde : thx for the info! have a nice weekend
18:52   <   gipIt!~Miranda@host217-137-static.43-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
18:54 < dayweek> minimec: ups. I accidentally suspended it. don't know how to wake it up so I turned it off. now in recovery mode
18:54 < woglinde> dayweek? why recovery?
18:54 < woglinde> now you have to activate usb debugging again
18:55 < woglinde> hm google should have an option to protect enabling this option with pin or password
18:56 < dayweek> wiglinde: minimec said "go to flash mode". isn't it the same as recovery mode?
18:56 < woglinde> no
18:57 < dayweek> ahh
18:57 < woglinde> flashmod ist crtl+esc and power on
18:57 < dayweek> they call it recovery mode here http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/HOWTO
18:58 < woglinde> recovery is home
18:58 < minimec> woglinde: dayweek: I guess we proved, that ubuntu sees the device. As he wanted to flash back some images, I guessed he ant to test flash-mode now.
18:58 < woglinde> and power on
18:58 < dayweek> alright
19:01 < dayweek> but again the ac100 is not in /dev on my PC when in flash mode (ctrl esc)
19:02 < dayweek> I can try to go to flash mode and THEN connect the cable
19:03 < minimec> dayweek: Why would you need that? Try to change to the tegra for linux directory and try to read out some image or so. Would that work?
19:05   <   vanger!~vanger@80.91.178.197 [Remote host closed the connection]
19:07 < woglinde> dayweek forget this
19:07 < woglinde> nvflash dont take care about /dev really
19:08 < woglinde> connect the cable, crtl+esc poweron
19:08 < woglinde> use nvflash
19:08 < woglinde> power off
19:08 < woglinde> thats it
19:09 < dayweek> it works! :D
19:09 < minimec> dayweek: Happy for you.
19:10 < dayweek> woglinde: I downloaded partition 5 even thought ac100 was not in /dev
19:10 < dayweek> minimec: thank you for helping
19:10 < dayweek> help*
19:11 < dayweek> woglinde: thanks too
19:11 < woglinde> o.O
19:11 < woglinde> read the flash howto nexttime the right way
19:11 < woglinde> ;)
19:12 < minimec> dayweek: no problem. I also learned something. With ubuntu 10.10 you need 'sudo -i' rights to run adb, while in ubuntu 9.10 you can run adb as simple user.
19:13 < dayweek> yes, but everytime it was in /dev and suddenly not. It confused me a lot.
19:15 < woglinde> *sigh*
19:15 < dayweek> or maybe it was not in /dev before :) only when I connect turn on file sharing in android. anyway
19:15 < dayweek> problem solved:)
19:17   <   mirco_iP!~mircoip@tmo-101-49.customers.d1-online.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:20   >>> cocoadaemon!~cocoadaem@2a01:e35:8a99:e90:20d:93ff:fe3b:868c
19:20 < cocoadaemon> ola all
19:20 < cocoadaemon> damn, the place is more crowded than I thought it would
19:21 < woglinde> ?
19:22 < cocoadaemon> I thought there would be like 10 to 20 people
19:22 < cocoadaemon> ola woglinde
19:22 < woglinde> seems some more bought an ac100 because of the price
19:22 < woglinde> in germany 3g is dropped to 180 euros
19:22 < cocoadaemon> wooh
19:23 < cocoadaemon> I'd love to have had that
19:23 < woglinde> sure I paid 320 too
19:23 < cocoadaemon> so basically, I was thinking about droping Android for Ubuntu
19:23 < marvin24_DT> how much in spain?
19:23 < marvin24_DT> is it right?
19:23 < cocoadaemon> I paid today 175 for the non 3G
19:23 < cocoadaemon> Refurb
19:23 < woglinde> hm oh
19:23 < woglinde> thats okay too
19:24 < woglinde> refurb means it isnt older than half a year
19:24 < dayweek> in Czech Republic it's 145 euros
19:24 < woglinde> and not likely used that much
19:24 < woglinde> dayweek with czech keyboard?
19:24 < dayweek> yup
19:24 < cocoadaemon> I'd love to have gotten a qwerty
19:24 < marvin24_DT> given that harmony sold for 399 euro
19:25 < cocoadaemon> anyway, 2.2 => End of Ubuntu hope ?
19:25   >>> tilmann!~t@f052200141.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:26 < woglinde> cocoadaemon no
19:26 < woglinde> cocoadaemon .37 kernel runs with ubuntu
19:26 < woglinde> but you need to flash to switch btw. android and ubuntu always
19:26 < ogra_> does it also run with the 2.1 bootloader btw ?
19:26 < cocoadaemon> ok because I was reading the contrary and stopped the update
19:28 < minimec> woglinde: I will do that tonight. I need to reflash the old bootloader (partition 4) and then place the boot.img to partiton 5 right? Or do I have to flash the old partition 5 too, and then replace boot.img on partition 5?
19:29   >>> mirco_iP!~mircoip@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
19:29 < woglinde> minimec for what?
19:30 < minimec> woglinde: To downgrade the ac100 to be able to start Ubuntu via SD card.
19:30 < woglinde> minimec you dont need that when you are using marvin's .37 kernel
19:30 < cocoadaemon> oh, that would be nice
19:31 < cocoadaemon> I'd love to check the performances of the AC100
19:31 < minimec> woglinde: Oh. That would be cool. So we could also help him do some tests.
19:32 < minimec> woglinde: That would mean... Only push the marvin boot.img on partition 5 and then I am done?
19:32   >>> tilmann1!~t@f052196028.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:32 < cocoadaemon> so the phh is still the reference for ubuntu on AC100, including dual boot ?
19:34 < woglinde> minimec no
19:34 < woglinde> minimec with 2.2 bootloader a kernel is only loaded from part6
19:35   <   tilmann!~t@f052200141.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
19:35 < woglinde> from part5 no kernel is loaded
19:35 < woglinde> you dont have a real dualboot you need
19:35 < woglinde> you need always flashing to use android or ubuntu
19:36 < minimec> woglinde: OK.. ;) So I would change boot.img on partition 6. Would I be able to use the backup of partition 6 on a SD Card as Android OS?
19:36 < woglinde> boot.img is a partition
19:37 < woglinde> with kernel and initrd inside
19:37 < woglinde> but I dont think marvin posted an image with .37 kernel somewhere
19:37 < minimec> woglinde: Stupid me. This is clear. ;)
19:37 < woglinde> you need to compile it yourself
19:37 < woglinde> use abootimg to alter such a partition
19:38 < minimec> I may check the logs of this channel. If he posted something.
19:38 < minimec> woglinde: THX for that information.
19:38 < woglinde> just believe me
19:38 < minimec> woglinde: ok ;)
19:42   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
19:42   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
19:43   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
19:43   >>> harms1!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com
19:44   <   zommi!~quassel@nat/ibm/x-ldftimxoswbcwxsw [Remote host closed the connection]
19:45   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
19:46 < marvin24_DT> minimec: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/boot.img
19:46 < woglinde> hehe
19:46 < woglinde> praise marvin
19:46 < woglinde> *g*
19:46 < cocoadaemon> marvin24: how is this supposed to be used  ?
19:46   <   harms!~harms@40.84-48-93.nextgentel.com [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
19:47 < cocoadaemon> just replace in the right partition ( that would be awesome xD )
19:47   cocoadaemon dreams
19:47 < minimec> marvin24_DT: This is nice! I will try that one tonight. So I will push that one to partition 6 and any SD/USB device will be the / file system?
19:49 < marvin24_DT> just flash it to part6
19:49   >>> phh_!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr
19:49 < woglinde> re phh
19:49   <   phh!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:49 < woglinde> hm
19:50 < minimec> marvin24_DT: woglinde: Thank you both. I will find the time tonight to test that, I hope.
19:51   <   mirco_iP!~mircoip@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:56   <   bmw!~lib_bmw@46.20.191.35 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:56   >>> mirco_iP!~mircoip@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
19:57 < nicofs> can someone help me configure the init of the ramfs? all i get is that old can't access tty...
19:57 < gildean> nicofs: with phh's ubuntu?
19:57 < gildean> i think you need the alternative boot.img
19:58 < gildean> search plop.img in the log
19:58 < nicofs> gildean, worse... own .37 kernel from marvin
19:58 < gildean> the link to log is in the /topic
19:58 < gildean> ok, i didn't even realize .37 was at a usable state
19:58 < woglinde> dont know if marvin updated his initrd
19:59 < saraedum> nicofs: you can also try to mount the right partition manually and then just 'exit'
19:59 < nicofs> saraedum, how would i do that?
19:59 < saraedum> mount /dev/... /root (if I remember correctly)
20:00 < nicofs> what would be the dots? mmcblk0p9? i need internal boot...
20:00 < nicofs> ...0p6 i meant
20:01 < woglinde> nicofs in .37 mmc0 and mmc1 exchanged
20:01 < saraedum> youre not booting from an sd card? then it depends on how you partitioned the drive. just try, most partitions won't mount.
20:02 < saraedum> (and then ls /root to see if its android's or yours)
20:02 < cocoadaemon> marvin24: WOW. Just flash it to part6 and I'll be booting ubuntu?
20:05   <   mirco_iP!~mircoip@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi]
20:06 < gildean> that's different from before how?
20:06 < gildean> if you don't count 2.2 as a change
20:07 < cocoadaemon> this http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/ seems a wee bit more complex, no ?
20:07   <   lanthan!~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20:12 < marvin24_DT> cocoadaemon: you need a filesystem of course
20:17 < arganeau> Ubuntu on part13 (nilfs) : looking for a optimized nilfs_cleanerd.conf pls
20:19 < marvin24_DT> optimized?
20:20 < arganeau> It seems that the default one is for big disks ?
20:31 < gildean> marvin24_DT: so does the .37 kernel have features in place already or is it still heavily in development?
20:31 < nicofs> sorry... i wasjust occupied by my better half...
20:32 < marvin24_DT> gildean: the latter one
20:33 < nicofs> so if i understood that correctly, mmcblk1p6 is the internal storage of the fs?
20:33   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20:33   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net []
20:33 < saraedum> nicofs: I repartitioned my drive so I'm not sure.
20:34 < nicofs> saraedum, i didn't repartition anything...
20:34 < saraedum> sorry, I don't know what it looked like before I did that. anyway, just give it a try.
20:35 < saraedum> mount it, press Ctrl-D. If it boots, you know, otherwise try a different one.
20:35 < gildean> marvin24_DT: you got suspend working or not?
20:35 < gildean> to me, it's a must have for the ac100 to be really usable
20:36 < marvin24_DT> this is a faq
20:36 < marvin24_DT> ;-)
20:36 < marvin24_DT> suspend is the most difficult part
20:36 < gildean> i thought as much
20:37 < marvin24_DT> so this comes *last*
20:37 < gildean> marvin24_DT: it's good to have a small faq here once in a while
20:37 < gildean> about the current state of things
20:37 < marvin24_DT> would be better to have an active ml
20:37 < marvin24_DT> much easier to search within
20:37 < gildean> yeah, irc-logs aren't that easy to search
20:38 < gildean> or tideous more than anything
20:38   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
20:38 < Tactilofan> hi every one !
20:38 < Tactilofan> i have heard that Asus released Transformer kernel source code
20:38 < gildean> but at least i started to log both full log and the weekly log, so it's easier to read longer bits
20:39 < Tactilofan> and i have on question, is the muromec's putusb stable and operational for flashing partitions or not ?
20:39 < marvin24_DT> Tactilofan: is the hw released?
20:39   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
20:40 < Tactilofan> in some countries yeah
20:40 < Tactilofan> it will arrive soon in Europe
20:40 < muromec> marvin24_DT, sure
20:40 < gildean> i don't know if anyone checks the log tho, as most people don't even notice the topic
20:41 < marvin24_DT> so where's the source?
20:41 < Tactilofan> ...
20:41 < Tactilofan> i don't know :)
20:41 < muromec> Tactilofan, its operational, yep. though some cleanup and checks steel needed, and no repartition support yet
20:42 < Tactilofan> what do you mean by repartition ?
20:42 < marvin24_DT> I just started to download it
20:42 < Tactilofan> I created AC100 Manager (in python too) but it nvflash was kind of... weird sometime
20:43 < Tactilofan> so i stopped the project
20:43 < marvin24_DT> http://www.multiupload.com/9U5PFHIJN7
20:44   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:44 < woglinde> hi muromec and Tactilofan
20:44 < Tactilofan> hi woglinde
20:45 < muromec> Tactilofan, repartition is process of changing partition table ;)
20:45 < marvin24_DT> muromec: deinit ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/591381/
20:46 < Tactilofan> okay
20:48 < muromec> marvin24_DT, wtf?
20:49 < muromec> sequence look ok
20:49 < muromec> just try
20:49 < marvin24_DT> horroble, I know
20:49 < Tactilofan> wait a second... does putusb work on the AC100 ?
20:49 < marvin24_DT> works so far (5 reboots)
20:49 < muromec> Tactilofan, what?
20:49 < muromec> you cant flash ac100 from same ac100
20:50 < Tactilofan> isn't suppose to replace nvflash ?
20:50 < Tactilofan> (i'm kind of lost right now)
20:50   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
20:52 < Tactilofan> anyway, i've got to go
20:52 < Tactilofan> thx muromec :)
20:53 < marvin24_DT> looks like asus forgot half of the kernel tree ...
20:53 < woglinde> marvin hehe
20:54 < muromec> Tactilofan, it replaces nvflash
20:54 < muromec> marvin24_DT, lolwoot?
20:54   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
20:55 < woglinde> muromec btw. marvin founded out that we already have a sound codec impl
20:55 < marvin24_DT> not only that, they even forgot their patches
20:55 < woglinde> muromec we onlky need to glue to our board
20:56 < muromec> woglinde, hmmmm ?
20:56 < muromec> maby its not asus its dumb xda users
20:56   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:57 < marvin24_DT> I got it directly from asus
20:57   woglinde looks around for artem
20:57 < woglinde> ;)
20:59 < woglinde> okay
20:59 < woglinde> finally I can go home
20:59 < woglinde> till later
20:59   <   woglinde!~henning@p5DDC09F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Quit: zapp]
21:03   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
21:13   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:14 < nicofs> what exactly does this "can't access tty" error mean?
21:17 < marvin24_DT> did you specified some console= in the cmdline?
21:18 < nicofs> yes... "tty0"
21:20   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
21:20 < marvin24_DT> does it drop to a shell?
21:20 < saraedum> nicofs: it shows up e.g. if the root filesystem cannot be mounted
21:21 < marvin24_DT> have you tried to mount it by hand?
21:22 < nicofs> marvin24, yes, but it's complicated... at some point the whole system stalls after a while... i haven't yet tried all mmcblks...
21:24 < marvin24_DT> mmh, you should try the right partition
21:24 < saraedum> so, ubuntu starts to boot?
21:24 < nicofs> i can't find it... :-(
21:25 < saraedum> if you mount /root manually you can have a look at /root -- not many partitions should look like an actual linux system.
21:28   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
21:29   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
21:35 < nicofs> i think i found the correct partition... but using it results in kernel panic...
21:35   <   ZoX_!c1311e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.49.30.34 [Quit: Page closed]
21:35 < saraedum> whats the message, roughly?
21:35 < cocoadaemon> how easy is it to become root with ac100
21:36 < nicofs> saraedum, "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
21:37 < gildean> cocoadaemon: using superoneclick is easy
21:39 < cocoadaemon> ok good
21:40   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7DC45.dip.t-dialin.net
21:40 < saraedum> nicofs: this means that init died i.e. the final exec statement didnt work
21:40 < saraedum> so the init on the ramdisk failed to start the init in /root
21:41 < saraedum> sounds like something is wrong with the system on that partition but its hard to tell like that
21:42 < nicofs> saraedum, the first init seems to not work properly... from what i see in the output, the mmcblk partitions are recognized only after the can't access tty error...
21:42 < nicofs> the same fs works with ogra's kernel... ext3...
21:43 < saraedum> you can also 'cat init' to see whats happening after you exit the shell and see if that seems to make sense in your case
21:43   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
21:44   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
21:44   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
21:46   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:47 < nicofs> saraedum, cat init just shows the source of the ramfs init...
21:47 < saraedum> sure. but should the exec command work after you mounted the rootfs manually?
21:48 < nicofs> saraedum, i can't there is only /dev/console - no more
21:50 < saraedum> I don't understand.
21:50 < nicofs> saraedum, mounting manually would be "mount /dev/mmcblk1p7 /root" - but there is no /dev/mmcblk* - there is only /dev/console.
21:51 < gildean> okay, that's the problem then
21:51 < saraedum> ok. what kernel are you booting?
21:51 < nicofs> .37
21:52 < gildean> it can't find the rootfs because the device is not recognized
21:52 < saraedum> I mean...where did you get it from?
21:52 < nicofs> marvin24's kernel
21:52 < gildean> i think marvin had some problems with internal emmc getting recognized
21:52 < gildean> nicofs: have you tried a sd card?
21:53 < nicofs> gildean, don't have one at hand...
21:53 < nicofs> but i can borrow one...
21:53 < gildean> hmm, i don't know if usb boot works with .37, but you could try that also
21:54 < saraedum> I don't think that will work if the system doesn't recognize any devices other than console.
21:54 < saraedum> I can share my .37 image if you just want to give it a try.
21:55   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
21:55   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
21:55 < marvin24_DT> if tegrapart is wrong, there will be no devices
21:56   >>> nicofs_!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
21:56 < marvin24_DT> is there some tegra-sdhci message?
21:56   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:56 < nicofs_> that nearly worked... sorry, my pc just crashed...
21:56 < marvin24_DT> nicofs_: if tegrapart is wrong, there will be no devices
21:57   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
21:57   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
21:57 < nicofs_> marvin24, there were all devices before i set the init to boot mmcblk1p7...
21:57 < nicofs_> they disappeared after i changed the init
21:58 < marvin24_DT> oh
21:59 < marvin24_DT> killed the udev?
21:59 < nicofs_> what do you mean?
21:59 < marvin24_DT> I will upload my init
22:00 < marvin24_DT> http://sprunge.us/TdAW
22:02 < gildean> btw. i think that part 14 on the internal drive is seen as mmcblk0p10
22:02   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
22:02 < gildean> or mmcblk1p10
22:03 < marvin24_DT> yes, the frist 4 partitions aren't reachable on 10V
22:03   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
22:03   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
22:04 < gildean> so init should be set to boot from p2?
22:04 < gildean> sorry, p10
22:07 < marvin24_DT> the initrd should detect it if it is inside the list
22:07 < marvin24_DT> the kernel always boots the initrd ;-)
22:08   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:12 < saraedum> marvin24_DT, I managed to get my wifi to work (sort of) - did you actually get WPA2 to work?
22:14   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:15 < marvin24_DT> sure
22:15 < marvin24_DT> working well
22:15   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
22:16 < saraedum> hm...somehow all the drivers are quite unstable here...I guess I'll resort to some (actual) usb wifi adapter for a while.
22:17   ~ nicofs_ is now nicofs
22:18 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, your init doesn't help... still same problem...
22:19 < marvin24_DT> whats you tegrapart line?
22:20 < saraedum> is the boot.img @ uni-giessen you posted earlier the version you're currently running?
22:20   <   cocoadaemon!~cocoadaem@2a01:e35:8a99:e90:20d:93ff:fe3b:868c []
22:20 < nicofs> recovery:300:a00:800,boot:d00:1000:800,mbr:1d00:200:800
22:20 < nicofs> saraedum, i use the one marvin24 just uploaded
22:21 < saraedum> sorry, I actually meant to ask this question to marvin24_DT: is the boot.img @ uni-giessen you posted earlier the version you're currently running?
22:22 < marvin24_DT> saraedum: no
22:22 < marvin24_DT> it's from yesterday ;-)
22:22 < marvin24_DT> currently I have no running version
22:22 < marvin24_DT> last chromium merge killed everything
22:23 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: tegrapart looks good
22:26   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
22:28   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:28   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
22:28 < marvin24_DT> without dmesg, its hard to detect
22:30   <   phh_!~quassel@quassel.rezel.enst.fr [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
22:31   >>> phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151
22:34 < saraedum> marvin24_DT, doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks anyway.
22:36 < nicofs> if init contains this wait 20 - shouldn't i be seeing any of that?
22:38 < nicofs> i added "read" to the init and still there is no point during boot where i am prompted to enter something...
22:41 < marvin24_DT> depends on where you put it
22:41 < nicofs> i just spotted the "can't access tty" line - it appears after about 3-4 seconds among all the other output. but the init contains "wait 20" and "read" before arriving at the point where any mmcblk is mounted - that is odd...
22:42   <   lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
22:42 < marvin24_DT> dumb question, are you sure you flashed the correct image to the correct place?
22:43 < nicofs> i keep flashing to 5 - and if i flash orga's image there, everything works...
22:44 < marvin24_DT> so you are still on android 2.1 bootloader?
22:44 < nicofs> yes
22:44 < marvin24_DT> can you try to connect via usb console?
22:45 < marvin24_DT> like minicom -D /dev/ttyACM0
22:45 < nicofs> erm... i think i need instructions to to that...
22:46 < marvin24_DT> do you see a /dev/ttyACM0 device on you host when ac100 is booted?
22:46 < marvin24_DT> my initrd will span a getty to it so you will be able to login
22:47 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, no, i don't
22:48 < marvin24_DT> you may add a "console=ttyGS0,115200n8" to the cmdline
22:48 < nicofs> it's there
22:49 < marvin24_DT> do you have cdc_acm module loaded?
22:49 < nicofs> where?
22:50 < muromec> on host
22:50 < nicofs> according to lsmod, i have
22:51 < nicofs> i added "wait 20" and an echo line at the beginning of init. it is ignored.
22:52 < marvin24_DT> does cat init show the lines you've added?
22:52   >>> stenzel!~stenzel@93.198.173.180
22:52 < nicofs> is there a way to scroll up?
22:53 < marvin24_DT> maybe shift pgup
22:53 < marvin24_DT> this is way I wanted an external console
22:54 < marvin24_DT> more should also work
22:54 < nicofs> i need to take a shower... back in 10min...
22:56   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
22:57   <   mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:58   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:58   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
23:00 < marvin24_DT> some git experts here?
23:01   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
23:01 < muromec> marvin24_DT, what do you want?
23:01 < marvin24_DT> I merged the current chromium tree
23:01 < marvin24_DT> but something is wrong
23:02 < marvin24_DT> so want to go back to some certain commit
23:02 < marvin24_DT> if that commit is from the chromium tree
23:02 < marvin24_DT> it will switch to that branch
23:02   <   mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:02 < marvin24_DT> and all my changes are gone
23:03 < marvin24_DT> eg commit 342353245 is on chromium and on my branch
23:03 < marvin24_DT> git checkout 342353245 switches to chromium branch (not to the revision on my branch)
23:07   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
23:09   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:12   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
23:12   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:13   <   mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:14   >>> marvin24_DT_!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
23:14   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
23:14   <   marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
23:15   >>> marvin24!~marc@egonalter-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
23:17 < nicofs> i think i have to go now... my boyfriend somehow insists on going to the cinema... maybe that's because i promised... anyway - see you all later...
23:18 < kenws> marvin24: you could go back using a "git reset --hard <commit>"
23:19 < kenws> you'll see all the interesting commit ids using"git reflog"
23:20 < kenws> oh, maybe i should actually read what you really want : )
23:21 < marvin24_DT_> doesn't reset kill all my changes from the database?
23:21 < kenws> reset --hard is desctructive, yes
23:21 < kenws> I thought you want to "undo" a merge you did
23:22 < marvin24_DT_> I think I just merged in a stupid way
23:22 < kenws> assuming you didn't commit local changes after the merge you should be safe
23:22   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:22 < marvin24_DT_> git merge chromeos-2.6.37 could be wrong (too simple)
23:22 < kenws> another idea would be to start over with a new branch and cherry pick the changes you did
23:23   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
23:23 < marvin24_DT_> (chomeos-2.6.37 is a local branch here containing the upstream stuff)
23:25 < marvin24_DT_> maybe not nessessary, because I think I found the evil commit
23:25 < kenws> did you commit important things after the merge?
23:26 < kenws> if not, you may go back  with "git reset --hard" using a commit id from "git reflog"
23:27 < marvin24_DT_> well, the merge starts from two weeks ago until today
23:27 < marvin24_DT_> and I made changes in between
23:27 < kenws> ok, so this is not an option then
23:28 < marvin24_DT_> I just think it is stupid that a git checkout will switch trees
23:28   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
23:28 < kenws> "git checkout" ?
23:28 < kenws> you mean a "git fetch" plus "git pull" afterwards?
23:28 < marvin24_DT_> no
23:28 < kenws> I'm afraid I can't follow : )
23:29 < marvin24_DT_> I did a merge
23:29 < marvin24_DT_> and wanted to go back a few commits
23:29 < marvin24_DT_> if the commit is from the merge
23:29 < marvin24_DT_> whole branch will switch to the merged tree
23:29 < marvin24_DT_> and all local changes are lost
23:29   <   mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
23:30 < kenws> could you post the output of git reflog?
23:31   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
23:31 < kenws> but what you describe sounds natural to me
23:32 < kenws> if you merged some tree and commited local changes _afterwards_
23:32 < marvin24_DT_> this is just after the merge: http://paste.ubuntu.com/591443/
23:33 < kenws> how do you expect git to go back to a point where the merge didn't happen but your local changes are there?
23:33 < marvin24_DT_> the local changes are in between the merged commits (from the time point of view)
23:33 < marvin24_DT_> it should go to a point somewhere in between the merged commits
23:34 < kenws> it seems that you could safely reset your tree to your last local commit, right?
23:34 < marvin24_DT_> and keep my changes I made before
23:34 < kenws> git reset --hard 07113c9
23:34 < kenws> (do a backup first)
23:35 < marvin24_DT_> mmh, the merged commit are not shown by reflog?
23:35 < marvin24_DT_> commits
23:35 < kenws> are you on the correct branch?
23:36 < marvin24_DT_> I'm on chromeos-ac100-2.6.37
23:36   >>> madnificent!~madnifice@83.101.62.132
23:37   >>> hanno!~hanno@91-64-36-248-dynip.superkabel.de
23:37 < madnificent> quick question, does anyone have pictures of the flash drive or know what interface it uses (or whether or not it's soldered onto the mainboard)
23:37   <   phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151 [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:37 < Unseen2> It's soldered to the board
23:38   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
23:38   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:38   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
23:38 < madnificent> darned
23:38 < marvin24_DT_> kenws: show that mean, that all changes are in 965429f?
23:39 < kenws> the 965429f is where you are
23:39 < Unseen2> madnificent: http://wiki.gudinna.com/ac100 has pictures of the board, you can see a SanDisk logo on one of the BGA chips.
23:39 < madnificent> Unseen2: ah great, thanks
23:40   madnificent doesn't want to try and solder that though
23:40 < kenws> marvin24: but I don't know your structure (what local branches do exist ect..)
23:40 < marvin24_DT_> yes, hard to debug from outside ;-)
23:40   >>> phh!~quassel@137.194.15.151
23:41 < madnificent> Unseen2: ah yes, I see it :)
23:41 < madnificent> well, perhaps I'll look at the ac100 later once again :) thanks for the quick aid!
23:41   <   madnificent!~madnifice@83.101.62.132 ["go hack go hack go"]
23:41 < marvin24_DT_> I'll try to solve it somehow
23:41 < kenws> : )
23:41 < marvin24_DT_> good time to learn about gut
23:41 < marvin24_DT_> git
23:41 < kenws> if all goes wrong, you can cherry pick your commits
23:42   >>> kottt1!~kottt@host-74-146-66-217.spbmts.ru
23:42   <   kottt1!~kottt@host-74-146-66-217.spbmts.ru []
23:43 < tilmann1> heya kenws :)
23:43   ~ tilmann1 is now tilmann
23:43 < kenws> hey tilmann
23:43 < kenws> got an ac100? : )
23:43 < tilmann> yeah :)
23:44 < kenws> so, llvms arm backend is now being optimized for the tegra? ; )
23:44 < tilmann> that was my plan sort of :)
23:45 < hanno> hi, anyone has the linux4tegra package? Seems the downloads on the nvidia page is dead
23:47   <   dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz [Quit: Leaving]
23:47 < kenws> hanno: http://scoopr.fi/dump/linux4tegra_10.9.3.tar.gz
23:47   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
23:48 < hanno> kenws, thanks
23:48 < kenws> or search for "linux_for_tegra_os_pack_rel_20101029_10.9.3.run.tar.gz"
23:50   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:50   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
23:58 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: I flashed your image and booted my ac100 I get lot's of messaegs 'nvec nvec.0: ec responded 4' Boot hangs there.
23:59 < marvin24_DT_> the msg is ok, but it shoudn't hang
23:59 < marvin24_DT_> mmh
23:59 < marvin24_DT_> can you switch the console
23:59 < marvin24_DT_> alt-f1
23:59 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: Maybe I use the wrong modules. I use the ubuntu5.tar.lzma Maybe i use the wrong modules?
23:59 < marvin24_DT_> no
--- Day changed Sat Apr 09 2011
00:00 < marvin24_DT_> the framebuffer must be deattached to get into graphics
00:00   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
00:00 < marvin24_DT_> but console should work
00:00 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: F1 would be '<<'?
00:01 < hanno> does anyone know which xorg-server version was the last working with tegra_drv ?
00:01 < marvin24_DT_> |<< ;-)
00:01   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:01 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: Now it sais 'Unable to open /dev/nvrpc
00:01 < marvin24_DT_> hanno: the one from 9.04
00:02 < marvin24_DT_> now?
00:02 < marvin24_DT_> did it switched?
00:02 < marvin24_DT_> ah, you are using the nvrm_daemon?
00:02 < marvin24_DT_> kill it !
00:02 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: I pressed ctrl alt '<<'
00:02 < marvin24_DT_> you need a bare root fs
00:03 < hanno> ubuntu calls it 7.5, but that's not a verison of xorg-server (not using ubuntu here)
00:03 < marvin24_DT_> maybe it is enough to rename /L4T to something different
00:03 < marvin24_DT_> hanno 1.6.3 or so
00:03 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: So I cannot use that Ubuntu5.tar.lzma?
00:04 < marvin24_DT_> you can, but you need to disable nvrm_daemon
00:04 < marvin24_DT_> and use the normal xserver (not the one from /L4T)
00:04   <   mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:04 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: Ok. I will stop that boot and mount the SD Card in my Computer.
00:06 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: Ok. I see that L4T folder in the / directory. YOu want me to rename that one?
00:06 < marvin24_DT_> yes
00:07 < marvin24_DT_> and check /etc/rc.local
00:07 < marvin24_DT_> or rename it
00:07 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: I have to mount the card as root ;)
00:07 < marvin24_DT_> ja?
00:09 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: rc.local has /button in it. Should I '#' that?
00:09 < marvin24_DT_> yes please
00:09 < hanno> anyone here successfuly installed linux on the internal flash? Any pointers to doc?
00:10 < hanno> I fear I might brick the device if I play with the partitions, can I safely reformat and put linux onto /dev/mmcblk0p6?
00:10 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: OK. renamed L4T to L4T-old and '#' /button in /etc/rc.local
00:13 < marvin24_DT_> do you know where the nvrm_daemon is started?
00:13 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: Yu mean /etc/init.d?
00:14 < marvin24_DT_> minimec: dunno, go check
00:15 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: YOu mean, I could delete that deamon if found on the card in /etc/init.d?
00:15 < marvin24_DT_> rename should be enough
00:15 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: I will try that.
00:17   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
00:17   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:18   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
00:22   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:22 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: There is a complete 'shadow' filesystem in L4T(-old) Found 'nvrm_daemon.sh' in L4T-old/etc/init.d. I will rename that, but as I also renamed the L4T folder... We will see.
00:29   >>> zommi!~andreas@p57B4CE87.dip.t-dialin.net
00:32 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: Ok. I can access the console. But I don't have any user name... :(
00:32 < marvin24_DT_> never created one?
00:33 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: I am still trying to boot. I have a root console on tty7
00:34 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: But the keyboard is not responding
00:34 < marvin24_DT_> oh
00:34 < marvin24_DT_> how did you came to tty7 then?
00:35 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: I can switch to other consoles and type something, but I don't have a useraccount.
00:35 < minimec> marvin24_DT_: I see a rootconsole on tty7 but I cannot type.
00:36 < marvin24_DT_> ok
00:36 < marvin24_DT_> that's normal
00:36 < marvin24_DT_> you should add a user to be able to login
00:36 < marvin24_DT_> I dunno how ubuntu does it
00:36 < marvin24_DT_> there must be a standard user
00:36 < marvin24_DT_> but maybe no password
00:41   <   farmboy!~yaaic@host86-153-44-106.range86-153.btcentralplus.com [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:43   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Read error: Operation timed out]
00:45   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
00:46   >>> kottt1!~kottt@95-24-109-113.broadband.corbina.ru
00:46 < kottt1> .ощшт фс100-кг
00:46 < kottt1> ups
00:46 < kottt1> * ooops
00:47   <   kottt1!~kottt@95-24-109-113.broadband.corbina.ru []
00:48   <   zommi!~andreas@p57B4CE87.dip.t-dialin.net [Remote host closed the connection]
01:02   <   hen3ry!bcdec8ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.222.200.206 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
01:03   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
01:06 < marvin24_DT_> wtf! http://paste.ubuntu.com/591480/
01:06 < marvin24_DT_> bad compiler
01:15 < marvin24_DT_> maybe just arm implementation of BUG()
01:32   <   tilmann!~t@f052196028.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
01:45   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:51   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
02:15   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Quit: Ex-Chat]
02:16   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
02:25   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
02:26   <   mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:26   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net
02:27   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
02:27   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
02:52   <   marvin24_DT_!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
03:04   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
03:21   <   hanno!~hanno@91-64-36-248-dynip.superkabel.de [Quit: Verlassend]
03:46   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
03:58   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Quit: Leaving]
04:11   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
05:01   >>> mirco_!~mirco@p5B23CDFC.dip.t-dialin.net
05:02   <   mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru [Quit: Leaving.]
05:02   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23ADE8.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
05:02   ~ mirco_ is now mirco
05:03   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
06:17   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
06:24   <   scoopr!scoopr@scoopr.fi [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
06:30   >>> scoopr!scoopr@scoopr.fi
07:20   >>> dormant!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be
07:24   <   dormant1!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
07:38   <   dormant!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:41   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
08:48   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net [Remote host closed the connection]
08:49   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-206-070.pools.arcor-ip.net
08:53   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-206-070.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:09   >>> lepanen!~FAKTA@host-109-204-136-240.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net
09:27   >>> farmboy!~yaaic@host86-153-44-106.range86-153.btcentralplus.com
09:35   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
09:57   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
09:59   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Client Quit]
10:01   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
10:08 < kenws> Does anyone know why /proc/cpuinfo shows only one cpu?
10:09   <   farmboy!~yaaic@host86-153-44-106.range86-153.btcentralplus.com [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
10:11 < kenws> oh, it gets shut down - interesting
10:11 < kenws>  /sys/devices/system/cpu/present shows two
10:29   >>> tilmann!~t@f052196028.adsl.alicedsl.de
10:31 < scoopr> howdy tilmann =)
10:31 < tilmann> heya scoopr :)
10:42 < arune> marvin24: is this helpful or should I add more info: http://arune.se/temp/ac100/bootlog-android2.2-i2c-audio.txt
10:42 < arune> (more analyse will follow, just want to adapt if more/other info could help)
11:00   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-133-252-226.cust.tele2.se
11:21   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
11:21   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-133-252-226.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
11:25   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
11:33   >>> kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172
11:41   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-122-125.bb.netbynet.ru
11:55   >>> DasDGW!bc68ece4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.104.236.228
12:08   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
12:10   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-213-178.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
12:11   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-236-246.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
12:16   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-236-246.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
12:21   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-232-164.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
12:31   <   kalemas!~kalemas@84.19.183.172 []
12:35   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
12:39   >>> mumiah_!~quassel@199.183-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
12:43   <   mumiah_!~quassel@199.183-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [Remote host closed the connection]
12:44   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
12:51 < marvin24_DT> arune: looks good, thanks for looking into it
12:58   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-232-164.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
12:59   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-253-37.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
13:19   >>> John___!5b4d9c0e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.156.14
13:24 < John___> hi there
13:29   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
13:29   >>> zommi!~andreas@p57B4A897.dip.t-dialin.net
13:32   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-253-37.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:38   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
13:38   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
13:41   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
13:41   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
13:46   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-249-68.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
13:58   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-249-68.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
13:59   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-242-176.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
14:00   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
14:05   <   ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra [Excess Flood]
14:06   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
14:06   >>> mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru
14:10   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7DC45.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: Ex-Chat]
14:17   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:20   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
14:21   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
14:25   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
14:26   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.177.143
14:26   >>> a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
14:26   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:27   <   grandrew!~andrew@95-27-161-54.broadband.corbina.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
14:32   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-122-125.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
14:36   <   a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
14:36   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-242-176.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:37   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-230-103.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
14:37   <   muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217 [Read error: Operation timed out]
14:42   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-230-103.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:43   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-233-59.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
14:45   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-99-78.bb.netbynet.ru
14:56   >>> herny!5d24c892@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.36.200.146
14:57   <   herny!5d24c892@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.36.200.146 [Client Quit]
15:02   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-233-59.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
15:02   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-249-156.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
15:19   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Excess Flood]
15:19   >>> ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
15:20   <   ogra_!~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [Changing host]
15:20   >>> ogra_!~ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra
15:21   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
15:23   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-249-156.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:23   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-242-142.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
15:27   >>> macau!~AndChat@109.230.128.169
15:30   >>> macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169
15:30   ~ Zaek is now Randomletters
15:31   ~ Randomletters is now Guest54243
15:31   ~ Guest54243 is now Isakk
15:41 < John___> hi there
15:43   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-99-78.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
15:47 < marvin24_DT> hi John___
15:48 < John___> im trying install ubuntu to ac100
15:48 < marvin24_DT> did you read the guides?
15:48 < John___> where download latest version
15:48 < John___> yeah
15:48 < John___> im install ubuntu in virtual machine
15:49 < arune> depends on which features you want
15:49 < arune> there are basically two user versions with different features
15:50 < arune> Id recommend installing to an SD-card or USB-stick
15:51 < arune> "phhs image" has standby, brightness adjust, sound (but unstable), 3D (but unstable), flash (but unstable), etc
15:51 < arune> "ogras image" have working netbook-UI, but non of above features
15:53 < macau> is any way now to use ubuntu and android 2.2?
15:54 < arune> macau: there is, but thats the developer kernel, which may be somewhat unstable still
15:55   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-64-191.bb.netbynet.ru
15:55 < macau> somewhat is what?
15:55   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
15:55 < arune> I downgraded to 2.1 and running dualboot with ubuntu (phhs image), while waiting (and helping a bit) for a version with dualboots with 2.2
15:57 < macau> 2.1 is wrong way :(
15:57 < arune> most people here dont care much for android on ac100
15:58 < macau_> yeah, i know. but now i need some stable
15:58 < macau_> later i will flash 2.1 back
16:10   <   macau!~AndChat@109.230.128.169 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
16:12   >>> a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
16:16   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-242-142.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
16:16   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-214-159.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
16:19 < arune> seems like the audio init in phhs bootlog is done three times
16:21   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@salle001.emi.u-bordeaux1.fr
16:21 < arune> nope, 4 or more times
16:22   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.177.143 [Remote host closed the connection]
16:25 < arune> lets check if the inits are identical
16:27   >>> a_rcher_!~a@spectator.optilink.ru
16:27   <   a_rcher!~a@spectator.optilink.ru [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:28   >>> samyb!~samy@vvg91-1-82-228-237-33.fbx.proxad.net
16:32 < John___> arune, where i can found ogras image?
16:32 < arune> John___: its the one on gudinna.com
16:33 < John___> what kind of language is gudinna.com?
16:34 < arune> english?
16:34 < John___> ahhr its french
16:34 < arune> have you checked topic?
16:35 < John___> if you now, its need it
16:36 < arune> ?
16:36 < John___> http://wiki.gudinna.com/768 - its there?
16:38   <   mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
16:46   <   DasDGW!bc68ece4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.104.236.228 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:51   >>> mmarc__!~marcusmae@89.179.162.110
16:56   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-64-191.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
16:59 < gildean> John___: http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/
16:59 < John___> gildean, ок
16:59 < John___> thanks
17:00 < arune> the second and third inits are identical
17:01 < arune> the fourth init is idential to first 114 lines of the third init
17:02 < John___> gildean latest version phh is date 2011-01-16 ? now is april
17:02 < phh> yeah yeah.
17:03 < phh> I make suspend work and I release.
17:03 < gildean> phh: nice
17:03 < gildean> John___: you do realize people work on this without pay and on their free time?
17:04 < phh> gildean: not really nice, i'm quite unsure if suspend will work :s
17:04   >>> dormant!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be
17:04 < gildean> phh: have you checked if it's any different from .29?
17:05 < phh> well on .29 it was fucking simple, echo mem > /sys/power/state :D
17:05 < gildean> yep, so it's hardcoded?
17:05 < phh> what's hardcoded ?
17:05 < gildean> the suspend, leds etc.
17:05   >>> Nick!5b4d9c0e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.156.14
17:05 < gildean> in a rom on the power-controller
17:05 < phh> leds ?
17:06 < phh> it's done by the EC
17:06 < phh> yeah
17:06   >>> muromec!~muromec@188.115.190.27
17:06   ~ Nick is now Guest90153
17:06   <   John___!5b4d9c0e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.156.14 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:06 < phh> ah i've also got a keyboard bug -_-'
17:07 < gildean> not so nice
17:07 < gildean> what's the problem?
17:07 < phh> setxkbmap doesn't work, no alt-gr
17:07 < phh> I know I already had that problem ...
17:07 < phh> but i can't remember.
17:07 < Guest90153> very interested
17:08 < Guest90153> phh, where i have download new version your ubuntu firmware?
17:09 < phh> (would someone mind translating this ?)
17:09 < arune> Guest90153: the new version is not released yet
17:09 < arune> phh: is audio stable?
17:09 < phh> arune: it seems so
17:09   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-77-144.bb.netbynet.ru
17:09 < arune> great news
17:10 < Guest90153> i found http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/2011-01-16/
17:10 < arune> Guest90153: thats the latest released version
17:10 < Guest90153> not so good
17:10   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
17:11 < Guest90153> I hear its unstable, anybody work
17:11 < Guest90153> anybody work for this bug?
17:12 < phh> which bug ?
17:12 < gildean> Guest90153: i haven't found anything else to be very unstable but the sound
17:12 < gildean> which in that release is quite unusable
17:13 < gildean> everything else works relatively well
17:13 < gildean> except for flash and 3d of course, but flash works enoough and i don't need 3d on a netbook
17:13 < phh> ok. the suspend problem could only be my f*cking sd card.
17:14 < gildean> suspend works as it should, although you have to force software cursor on the mouse
17:14 < gildean> phh: too slow?
17:14 < phh> yes
17:14 < phh> some processes do stuff at suspend
17:14 < phh> but hum.
17:15   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
17:15 < phh> ok
17:15 < phh> launching suspend three times in a row works.
17:15 < phh> thanks cache.
17:16 < gildean> nice
17:16 < phh> and resumes perfectly
17:16 < phh> including cursor :p
17:16 < gildean> excellent
17:17 < minimec> phh: I am booting your ubuntu5.tar.lzma on the new .37 kernel of marvin24_DT. I am able to switch to a console (no X11), but I don't have an account to login. Did you ad some admin account?
17:17 < phh> minimec: no, it's an OEM release
17:18 < phh> I know that's annoying :D
17:18 < phh> but chroot, su -, passwd
17:18 < minimec> phh: Yeah. I might have to do that.
17:20 < minimec> Generally booting the ubuntu5.tar or the tegra-rootfs (found on gudinna.com) I talways hangs with # Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support
17:21 < minimec> then I get some 'nvec nvec.0: ec responded 4' and similar messages.
17:21 < gildean> phh: does the .32 work with 2.1 as dualboot, or is it intended only for 2.2 and booting from part 6??
17:22 < phh> gildean: only for 2.2
17:22 < phh> but I might consider working it with 2.1.... yeah no
17:22 < phh> too lazy :D
17:22 < gildean> haha
17:22 < minimec> again... I am on the experimantal .37 kernel. Would I be able to boot the .29 or .32 kernel with the android 2.2 bootloader from partition6?
17:22 < phh> .32 kernel
17:22 < gildean> not the .29, afaik
17:23 < minimec> phh: gildean Is there a .32 image available for me to download?
17:23 < phh> not yet
17:23   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-77-144.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
17:24 < phh> minimec: i've got an image that boots on usb stick, is it fine ?
17:24 < minimec> phh: USB or SD would be ok.
17:26 < minimec> phh: Would I have to add the .32 modules too to my filesystem?
17:26 < phh> i don't know your needs
17:26   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:26   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
17:26   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
17:27 < minimec> phh: What do you mean by that?
17:27 < phh> well you might need special modules
17:28   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
17:28 < minimec> phh: I see. First I would like to have the Ubuntu experience on my ac100. Afterwards I might need some generall support for UVC Webcam, USB Soundcard, maybe DVB-T and so on...
17:29 < phh> ah yeah... my schools servers are down today
17:29 < phh> minimec: yeah well that will be part of my release
17:30 < minimec> phh: Sounds cool. Would the USB HUB of the AC100 work 100% and how is the Mini-USB used in Ubuntu?
17:30 < phh> forced as usbnet/rndis
17:30 < arune> phh: please also add ftdi_sio :)
17:30 < phh> arune: yeah funny thing is that it happened that it could have been useful to me too.
17:31 < minimec> phh: Ok.
17:31 < arune> :)
17:31 < arune> usb-serial are always useful :)
17:32 < phh> "f*cking beagleboard, why don't you boot ?"
17:32 < phh> "f*ck I need a serial port"
17:35 < phh> minimec: http://demo.ovh.net/fr/03b78fd1067fb881992d66d349b8061e/
17:35 < minimec> phh: THX.
17:44   <   macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169 []
17:52 < Guest90153> .
17:52 < minimec> phh: Success I successfully booted the 'gudinna' tegra-rootfs with your .32 kernel. Let's test that beast... THX again.
17:52 < phh> minimec: but hum you know that since you don't have proper binaries you won't have anything working ?
17:53 < phh> well, like .37 mostly
17:54 < minimec> phh: I will see. ;) I'don't know why the .37 kernel would not boot on my machine...
17:54   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-77-144.bb.netbynet.ru
17:59   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-77-144.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
18:07   <   zommi!~andreas@p57B4A897.dip.t-dialin.net [Remote host closed the connection]
18:13   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru
18:16 < arune> phh: Im working with embedded hw in automotive, ftdi is common in prototypes
18:24   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@salle001.emi.u-bordeaux1.fr [Quit: Quitte]
19:12   >>> flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81
19:24   >>> stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC69D35.dip.t-dialin.net
19:25   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:27   <   muromec!~muromec@188.115.190.27 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
19:27   <   gg_!~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:29   <   stenzel!~stenzel@93.198.173.180 [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
19:29   >>> gg!~gilles@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-143-161.adsl.proxad.net
19:33   >>> tilmann1!~t@g231200244.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:35 < phh> can someone on my version do setxkbmap <anything> and tell me if it scream ?
19:35   <   tilmann!~t@f052196028.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:36   >>> psyche!~psyche@178.130.5.103
19:39 < psyche> hi
19:39   >>> muromec!~muromec@31.31.100.158
19:41 < psyche> i've followed steps by http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/. basically backed up the system, formatted 14 part, uploaded ubuntu, patched 6 part with boot.img, however if I reboot toshiba I will get "can't access tty" error. i'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, any ideas?
19:43 < phh> yeah well the "latest boot.img" isn't the latest one
19:43 < psyche> huh... i see :-)
19:43 < psyche> I suppose you have the latest, right? ;-)
19:43 < phh> i'm not sure
19:43 < phh> (well, I mean latest working)
19:44 < phh> ok i've got it
19:44 < psyche> could you share it?
19:44   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:44 < phh> yeah yeah sec
19:44 < psyche> thanks!
19:44 < phh> http://demo.ovh.net/download/3a9c85cdbe2cdbf5b83e13368964156e/plop.img
19:47   >>> macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169
19:47   <   macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169 []
19:47   >>> macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169
19:48   >>> Baybal!~baybal@75.155.181.156
19:50 < psyche> sorry to say this, however I can make it work either. it hangs on an initial step, just shows two mouse-penguin logos
19:50 < phh> how much time have you wait ?
19:52 < psyche> I do believe ~6 -- am I so hasty? ;-)
19:52 < psyche> ~6min
19:53 < phh> fine.
19:56   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
20:08   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g230116226.adsl.alicedsl.de
20:08 < woglinde> hiho
20:09   woglinde searches for audiocodec hints in .32 kernel
20:10 < phh> what do you mean ?
20:10 < phh> the trace I've logged aren't enough ?
20:10 < woglinde> hm where are they?
20:11 < phh> ok.
20:11 < phh> well on my school's servers which are dead, but sec
20:11 < woglinde> and hi phh btw.
20:12 < woglinde> hm only in diag I found wolfosn 8561
20:12 < woglinde> or so
20:12 < woglinde> but some how this connected to light
20:12 < woglinde> sensor
20:12 < phh> the one we don't have you mean ?
20:12 < phh> http://demo.ovh.net/download/d12f3fe239857935a3ed0bc959894826/plop-android2
20:13 < woglinde> guid = NV_ODM_GUID('w','o','l','f','8','9','6','1');
20:14 < phh> in paz00 ?
20:14   >>> clopof!~Miranda@ppp91-76-43-96.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
20:15   >>> ac100087!56cca62a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.204.166.42
20:16 < woglinde> drivers/paz00/paz00-diag.c
20:16 < woglinde> hm and where in your log is the sound stuff?
20:16 < phh> i2c stuff
20:16   <   ac100087!56cca62a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.204.166.42 [Client Quit]
20:18 < woglinde> hm
20:18 < woglinde> http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/codecs/WM8961/
20:18 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: here is a version with some comments: http://arune.se/temp/ac100/bootlog-android2.2-i2c-audio.txt
20:19 < phh> woglinde: well this code is just never called
20:19 < marvin24_DT> btw, I checked-in copy-n-paste driver (alc5623) and it is surely a alc audio codec
20:20 < phh> that makes me think ...
20:20 < marvin24_DT> ?
20:20 < phh> i've got a code to init the codec from userland .... :D
20:20 < woglinde> so which is mic gpio?
20:20 < phh> mic gpio ?
20:20 < woglinde> yeah harmony has it
20:20 < phh> well there is none for us
20:21 < phh> the only gpio we have is jack detector
20:21 < phh> http://demo.ovh.net/download/19c3735d31b41b640f72f2ff65f4ce95/alc-init.c
20:22 < marvin24_DT> harmony has a register for that
20:23 < phh> uh ?
20:23 < phh> well yes on the codec there are many registers for that
20:23 < phh> i think it has a current detector somewhere for the mic
20:23 < woglinde> marvin with the mmc patch the order is the same as before mmc1 is now external sd-card slot?
20:24 < woglinde> ah okay
20:24 < woglinde> patch comment
20:25 < marvin24_DT> I'm fighting again with the ec
20:25 < woglinde> marvin hm?
20:25 < marvin24_DT> after the last merge, it stopped working
20:25 < woglinde> we need ec for sound?
20:25 < marvin24_DT> grrr
20:26 < marvin24_DT> phh: why the hell did you toggle the gpio with gpio_direction_output instead of gpio_set_value?
20:26 < phh> marvin24_DT: don't know
20:26 < phh> why ?
20:26 < marvin24_DT> because I wonder why this worked at all ;-)
20:27 < phh> why not ?
20:27   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@c-4f667f24-74736162.cust.telenor.se
20:27 < phh> what's the problem with gpio_direction_output ?
20:28 < marvin24_DT> doesn't it just configure the gpio
20:28 < marvin24_DT> for input or output use?
20:29 < phh> there is a third argument ...
20:29 < marvin24_DT> but we want an output only
20:29 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:29 < phh> to set if it's high or low
20:29 < marvin24_DT> active low/high
20:29   >>> zommi!~andreas@p57B4D716.dip.t-dialin.net
20:29 < phh> well what's the problem, but that it's a big overhead ?
20:29 < marvin24_DT> I'm just checking what's wrong
20:30 < phh> it's got to be a reason if it works -_-'
20:31 < woglinde> hm some hdmi patches on the android tree
20:32 < marvin24_DT> only reason I can think of is that I didn't broke it
20:32 < phh> hdmi doesn't work on .37 atm ?
20:32 < woglinde> dont know
20:32 < marvin24_DT> never tried
20:32 < woglinde> even the camera didnt works
20:32 < woglinde> for me
20:32 < phh> the camera is just modprobing uvcvideo ....
20:32 < woglinde> sure
20:32 < woglinde> and all programs say sorry cam is no uvc
20:33 < phh> you mean we have a patched uvc driver ? oO
20:33 < marvin24_DT> works here
20:33 < woglinde> marvin hm
20:33 < woglinde> diffrent cams?
20:33 < marvin24_DT> no
20:34 < marvin24_DT> module not loaded?
20:34 < woglinde> its loaded
20:34 < woglinde> /dev/video is there
20:34 < woglinde> but all userspace programs are saying underlaying cam cannt be used
20:34 < phh> mind being more explicit ?
20:35 < woglinde> something like I said
20:35 < marvin24_DT> uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB Camera (0bda:58f2)
20:35 < phh> like an actual error message ?
20:35 < woglinde> "underlaying cam is not uvc or so"
20:35 < woglinde> sorry dont have at hand
20:35 < phh> or, so it's not a V4L application
20:35 < phh> so not standard
20:35 < phh> so sucks
20:35 < phh> ok, next one ?
20:35 < woglinde> ?
20:35 < woglinde> marvin which program works for you?
20:35 < marvin24_DT> I tried with xawtv and the ubuntu standard one
20:35   <   zommi!~andreas@p57B4D716.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20:36 < marvin24_DT> cheese or so
20:36 < phh> woglinde: you're basically telling me your app is uvc specific
20:36 < woglinde> no
20:36 < phh> so wtf is this error message then ?
20:36 < woglinde> was cheese and all other v4l based programms
20:37 < woglinde> yeah mom will compile marvins updated stuff
20:37 < woglinde> and then tell you
20:37 < woglinde> but after I checked the chromeos commits
20:38 < woglinde> ah thats dc_ext for
20:39 < woglinde> more apps on fb
20:40 < woglinde> hrms shitty batteries in mouse
20:40 < woglinde> and keyboardmouse not working
20:41 < marvin24_DT> yep
20:41 < marvin24_DT> I know
20:42 < woglinde> hm marvin you enabled thumbee support in your paz config
20:42 < woglinde> but as far as I know tegra has no thumbee
20:44 < phh> woglinde: you're sure of that ?
20:44 < phh> that's not what wikipedia seems to say
20:45 < phh> it seems only neon and vfvp3 are optional
20:45 < marvin24_DT> it is enabled in chomeium/tegra config
20:45 < woglinde> hm
20:45 < marvin24_DT> and what's that thumbee ?
20:45 < marvin24_DT> I know Thumb
20:45 < marvin24_DT> kind of Thumb V2?
20:45 < woglinde> thumbee is java extensions
20:46 < marvin24_DT> oh
20:46 < woglinde> formerly known as jazelle
20:46 < phh> woglinde: thumbee is jazelle rct, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture says that in cortex-A9 it's there
20:46 < marvin24_DT> but AFAIK, there is no free implementation of it in a vm
20:47 < phh> marvin24_DT: perhaps chromium will use it in a jit
20:47 < woglinde> marvin24_DT?????
20:47 < marvin24_DT> I think it is more an option you can buy
20:47 < woglinde> marvin24_DT icedtea 1.8 has thumbee support
20:47 < marvin24_DT> really?
20:47 < marvin24_DT> cool
20:47 < woglinde> marvin24_DT jazelle support before cortex-a8 you mean
20:48 < woglinde> like in the n810
20:48 < marvin24_DT> there were arm9 --- with and without -j
20:48 < woglinde> marvin unfornatly its disabeld since icedtea 1.9
20:49 < phh> thumbee and "original" jazelle seems totally different ...
20:49 < woglinde> because paramer orders changes and nobody is cable and have enough time to fix it
20:49 < phh> original jazelle actually decoded java
20:49 < woglinde> phh yes
20:50 < woglinde> hm hm
20:50 < woglinde> okay
20:50 < woglinde> seems its in
20:52   <   muromec!~muromec@31.31.100.158 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:57 < phh> groumpf
20:58 < phh> all "exotic" keys (page up/down, arrows, alt-gr) returns NoSymbol (=0) in X
20:58 < phh> but in /dev/input/event0 it's fine ...
21:05 < phh> ok. using evdev works.
21:08 < marvin24_DT> ok, kbd/mouse on .37 should work again
21:09 < marvin24_DT> why is the chip id of alc5632 0x5c version 0x5 ?
21:09 < marvin24_DT> maybe there is a reason why this register is not documentated ...
21:10   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
21:10   >>> steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-206-070.pools.arcor-ip.net
21:12 < phh>  
21:12 < phh> fail
21:12 < phh> keyboard done.
21:12 < phh> i think only that is left is wifi mm
21:15 < marvin24_DT> phh: still working on .32?
21:15 < phh> yes
21:15 < marvin24_DT> what's wrong with wifi?
21:15 < phh> the driver included in the sources doesn't build
21:15 < phh> compat-wireless doesn't build
21:15 < phh> ralinktech website was down when i tried
21:15   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@c-4f667f24-74736162.cust.telenor.se [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:16 < minimec> Ok. I would like to give you some feedback trying to use Ubuntu on a SD card. I hope you have some time (hoping for marvin24_DT) to give me some ideas, what I should do now, as I am out of ideas... ;) http://paste.ubuntu.com/591818/
21:16   <   dormant!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be []
21:17 < marvin24_DT> minimec: can you please try the lastest version of my tree
21:17 < marvin24_DT> I just pushed a commit which fixes keyboard
21:17 < marvin24_DT> I think it is not hanging
21:17 < marvin24_DT> it is just "finished" ;-)
21:18 < minimec> marvin24_DT: I would like to. Do you have another link for that image or do I have to get that on gitorious?
21:18 < marvin24_DT> I can upload an image
21:18 < marvin24_DT> wait
21:19 < minimec> marvin24_DT: That would be kind of you ;)
21:20 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Is it correct, that nilfs is not recognized?
21:20 < marvin24_DT> it is compiled in
21:20   >>> moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102
21:20 < marvin24_DT> but I did't tested it
21:20 < marvin24_DT> theoreticly it should work
21:20 < minimec> marvin24_DT: I got a 'tty' not found or so message.
21:21 < marvin24_DT> not on you pastebin output
21:21 < minimec> marvin24_DT: That is true, as I was not able to boot at all.
21:21 < phh> ok, sound is mostly stable with seeking in mplayer
21:21 < phh> "of course" pulseaudio just sucks
21:21 < phh> and sometimes it doesn't "sync" properly, so I have to seek and seek back to get sound back proper
21:22 < marvin24_DT> minimec: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gd1369/boot.img
21:22 < phh> but no crash
21:22 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Thank you so much. I hope it will be the 'right' one ;)
21:24 < marvin24_DT> minimec: to get a graphical login, you need to replace the /etc/init/gdm.conf with http://paste.ubuntu.com/591826/
21:25 < marvin24_DT> (or just add the two echo lines)
21:25 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Ok. THX
21:26   >>> muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net
21:27   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-130-203-124.cust.tele2.se
21:29 < woglinde> hm ah post-stop
21:32 < marvin24_DT> maybe they have removed the stupid exclusive lock in the mean time
21:32 < marvin24_DT> something is clearly different
21:32 < woglinde> marvin?
21:36 < marvin24_DT> I mean there was an exclusive lock somewhere in fb.c
21:36 < marvin24_DT> which prevent using fb console + fb xorg driver
21:36 < marvin24_DT> at the same time
21:37 < marvin24_DT> *there was*
21:37 < marvin24_DT> now it works!
21:40 < marvin24_DT> flashes a little bit though
21:44 < minimec> marvin24_DT: I would love to give you a positive feedback, but I cannot. It hangs a tthe same place.
21:44 < marvin24_DT> does the keyboard work?
21:44 < marvin24_DT> I mean can you switch console?
21:44 < minimec> marvin24_DT: nope.
21:44 < marvin24_DT> where does it stop?
21:44 < marvin24_DT> are you using a nilfs root?
21:44 < minimec> marvin24_DT: * Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support		[OK]
21:45 < minimec> marvin24_DT: ext3
21:45 < marvin24_DT> what means it boots just fine
21:46 < marvin24_DT> I guess you need to setup a remote console to proceed
21:46 < marvin24_DT> does lsusb on the host shows 0525:a4aa Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB CDC Composite Gadge (Ethernet and ACM) ?
21:46 < minimec> marvin24_DT: I can do that. I connect to the PC...
21:47   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
21:48 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Would I have to setup ifconfig manually or how should I go on using Ubuntu on the PC?
21:49 < marvin24_DT> PC is booting with windows?
21:49 < minimec> marvin24_DT: remeber... no keyboard on the ac100
21:49   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net [Client Quit]
21:49 < marvin24_DT> mmh, I could sweer that I've repaired it
21:50 < marvin24_DT> for console/network you need to setup this on your ac100
21:50 < marvin24_DT> you may try to disconnect the ac100 first from the power supply
21:50 < marvin24_DT> (battery + ac)
21:50 < marvin24_DT> for at least 10s
21:50 < minimec> marvin24_DT: So you know what I am talking about... Maybe I should get the gitorious tree, but I have to read a howto ;). What do you think?
21:51   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
21:51 < marvin24_DT> the image I uploaded is the lastest tree
21:51 < marvin24_DT> no need to compile it again
21:51 < marvin24_DT> in fact I booted with it just now
21:51 < woglinde> marvin24_DT no its the dc_ext patches from chromeos
21:52 < marvin24_DT> try to reboot the ac100 (and unplug the power supplies)
21:52 < woglinde> so more apps can use the fb
21:52 < marvin24_DT> so the update brought at least something useful
21:53 < marvin24_DT> it also brought the latest asoc tree (including alc5623)
21:53 < woglinde> marvin hm is the sound working?
21:54 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Ok. I compared the files... THe one that was posted yesterday and the one you posted today. It was the same link but I guessed that you know that. In fact it's the same file... That is, what I can tell you ...
21:54 < woglinde> marvin hm and hdmi should work too
21:55 < marvin24_DT> minimec: same?
21:55 < minimec> marvin24_DT: same filesize in bits
21:55 < marvin24_DT> -rw-r--r--   1 gd1369   fb13     5163008 Apr  9 20:21 boot.img
21:55 < marvin24_DT> is on the server
21:56 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: no sound yet, but some files containing some useless code
21:56 < phh> marvin24_DT: try my alc-init.c ? :D
21:56   <   Baybal!~baybal@75.155.181.156 [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
21:56 < marvin24_DT> no
21:56   marvin24_DT checking the link again
21:57 < woglinde> hm thats nice
21:57 < woglinde> http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=kernel-next.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e2c6559eaac7ada4e5452c1fd2e35d88b2a8973
21:57 < phh> marvin24_DT: that's just register dumping
21:57 < phh> and restoring them
21:57 < phh> but it works
21:57 < phh> well the dumping isn't made there
21:58 < phh> (it outputs to headspeaker)
21:58 < woglinde> phh that works on .32?
21:58 < phh> woglinde: yes
21:58 < woglinde> o.O
21:58 < woglinde> how the hell this works without codec
21:58 < phh> what works ?
21:58 < marvin24_DT> phh: where is the init?
21:59 < marvin24_DT> shoudn't it write to reg 0?
21:59 < woglinde> phh sound
21:59 < phh> woglinde: i'm using L4T's nvrm_daemon.
21:59 < woglinde> *g*
21:59 < woglinde> thats what I wanted to here
21:59 < woglinde> hups hear
21:59 < phh> ah that's not just dumping
21:59 < woglinde> so its not this usefull for .37
21:59 < phh> that's dumping+diffing
21:59 < phh> woglinde: not useful ?
21:59 < phh> it just says how to enable codec ..
21:59 < phh> marvin24_DT: why would it need to be reseted .. ?
21:59 < phh> reset is needed only when you do something wrong ...
22:00 < phh> or you want to reset the device
22:00 < phh> (i mean only for I2C devices that has its own electronical reset logic of course)
22:00 < marvin24_DT> I forgot that you are using nvrm_daemon, which inits it already
22:00 < phh> inits what ?
22:00 < phh> my nvrm_daemon doesn't know shit about alc
22:00   marvin24_DT confused
22:00 < marvin24_DT> I mean init the codec
22:01 < phh> me too.
22:01 < marvin24_DT> the dump you posted
22:01 < woglinde> hm ah for hdmi seems we need something like http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=kernel-next.git;a=commitdiff;h=c22a1703ec2a8ffe41492bc68d282b9e6d080812
22:01 < minimec> marvin24_DT: I do agree. I have one version from today 19:09 and one 20:23. They have the same size.
22:01 < phh> marvin24_DT: it's the trace of i2c discussion between nvrm_daemon and i2c codec
22:02 < minimec> marvin24_DT: I remember having redownloaded the img today again...
22:02 < marvin24_DT> phh: so what does your program do?
22:02 < phh> marvin24_DT: init the i2c codec.
22:02 < phh> and enables output
22:02 < phh> and so on
22:03 < phh> setting clocks perhaps
22:03 < marvin24_DT> codec = alc?
22:03 < phh> yes
22:03 < marvin24_DT> <phh> my nvrm_daemon doesn't know shit about alc
22:03 < marvin24_DT> ?
22:03 < marvin24_DT> confused
22:03 < phh> what's the problem ?
22:03 < marvin24_DT> ah, nvrm is not from android
22:03 < marvin24_DT> it is the one from l4t
22:03 < marvin24_DT> bling
22:04 < phh> .
22:04 < phh> everything clear now ? :)
22:04 < marvin24_DT> minimec: the size may be the same because of padding
22:04 < marvin24_DT> phh: nearly
22:04 < phh> ok, what's left ?
22:05 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Ok. I will download the link again and reflash. I am not giving up.
22:05 < marvin24_DT> how does this correspond to the dump you posted yesterday?
22:06 < marvin24_DT> minimec: good!
22:06 < phh> marvin24_DT: well, what I posted yesterday is everything the nvrm_daemon is telling to codec
22:06 < phh> it's very talkative compared to what's actually needed.
22:07 < phh> but if you sum up the changes the nvrm_daemon does
22:07 < phh> you have my alc-init.c
22:07 < marvin24_DT> so alc-init is a subset of the dump
22:07 < phh> that's not how I got it, but yeah
22:09 < marvin24_DT> you just start at low registers and walk upstairs
22:09 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Different file size ;)
22:09 < phh> marvin24_DT: I dumped all registers, uninited, and inited, and I compared them
22:09 < phh> and I just added the writes to go from uninited state to inited state
22:10 < marvin24_DT> that's what I call brute force
22:10 < phh> me too :D
22:10 < arune> :)
22:10 < arune> nice
22:10 < marvin24_DT> I need it in some more harmonic way
22:10 < marvin24_DT> hi arune!
22:10 < phh> yeah of course
22:11 < phh> that's why I gave you nvrm_daemon's log
22:12 < marvin24_DT> arune: your commented dump looks nice
22:12 < marvin24_DT> I'm sure it will be useful
22:14 < marvin24_DT> phh: http://arune.se/temp/ac100/bootlog-android2.2-i2c-audio.txt
22:14 < phh> yeah yeah I already got it
22:14 < phh> it resets the chip really often
22:15 < arune> 4 times
22:15   >>> marvin24_ac!~marvin24@f052032098.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:15 < arune> not sure its useful to analyse the first three resets
22:15 < phh> I don't remember if I tried many sounds :s
22:18 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Sometimes solutions are simple --> <ctrl><alt>del to clear the browser cache.
22:18   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net []
22:18 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Networks available! I am in... ;)
22:18 < marvin24_DT> minimec: cool ;-)
22:19 < marvin24_ac> me too1
22:19 < marvin24_ac> but I needed to add the regulatory domain to the cfgxxxxx module parameter
22:20 < marvin24_ac> otherwise it didn't  connect
22:20 < minimec> marvin24_DT: I will have to change keyboard settings obviously ;)
22:21   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
22:23 < minimec> marvin24_DT: the wizard hangs when looking for my keyboard layout... I will have to try again...
22:24 < marvin24_DT> you need to use the us for the wizard first
22:24 < marvin24_DT> that's a know bug in ubuntu, AFAIK
22:24 < marvin24_DT> you can change the layout later on
22:24 < minimec> marvin24_DT: OK! <i see.
22:30   <   marvin24_ac!~marvin24@f052032098.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Verlassend]
22:31 < minimec> marvin24_DT: Hmmm... It hangs again! I cannot use the keyboard. Screen will soon going black I guess...
22:31 < marvin24_DT> no mouse?
22:32 < minimec> no... --> * Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support		[OK]
22:33 < marvin24_DT> wrong image?
22:34 < minimec> marvin24_DT: No I had to force shutdown, because of the keyboard GUI hanging. I shutdown the ac100 on/off 10 sec and reboot.
22:40 < minimec> marvin24_DT: That is really strange. I tried it again, but no success... I have no idea why...
22:41 < marvin24_DT> mmh, looks like to ec code isn't so stable as it should
22:42 < marvin24_DT> problem is we still have no synchronous write, which causes all kinds of timing problems
22:42 < minimec> marvin24_DT: ok. I may guess that I don't know exactly what you are talking about.. ;)
22:43 < marvin24_DT> well, we send a message, but don't wait for the answer
22:43 < marvin24_DT> we just send the next message
22:43 < woglinde> hm seems the subpixel stuff istn that good
22:43   <   moonlightlycos!55fcbe66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.252.190.102 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
22:43 < marvin24_DT> which may confuse the ec
22:43 < woglinde> the last line is crap now
22:44 < marvin24_DT> not crap - colored!
22:44 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: is you keyboard working?
22:44 < marvin24_DT> *your
22:44 < woglinde> have to wait
22:44 < woglinde> marvin did you remove the unbind option?
22:44 < marvin24_DT> yes
22:44 < marvin24_DT> work nice
22:45 < woglinde> hm seems with it it dont wors
22:45 < marvin24_DT> ?
22:45 < woglinde> yeah system didnt get up here
22:45 < marvin24_DT> worked fine here
22:45 < woglinde> will it try now without it
22:46 < marvin24_DT> ok, your are speaking of the usual "hangs from time to time"
22:46 < woglinde> ???
22:46 < woglinde> no
22:46 < woglinde> it worked fine
22:46 < woglinde> before
22:46 < marvin24_DT> that's the cost of living on the bleeding edge
22:46 < woglinde> no random hangs
22:47 < marvin24_DT> the problem is that I don't understand the code I merge
22:48 < woglinde> ?
22:49 < marvin24_DT> !
22:49 < woglinde> keybord works
22:50   <   psyche!~psyche@178.130.5.103 [Remote host closed the connection]
22:51 < topi`> wog: are you running the toshiba-ac100  kernel (phh's kernel)?
22:51 < topi`> i mean the original 2.6.29 series
22:51 < woglinde> no marvins kernel
22:51 < woglinde> with the aes patches from nvidia tree
22:51 < topi`> the power management isn't working very well, its running the cpu at 600mhz and not 1000mhz as I want
22:52 < topi`> any way to disable the power management and bump frequency to 1000mhz?
22:52 < woglinde> topi if you want to burn the cpu
22:52 < woglinde> go ahead
22:52   >>> psyche!~psyche@178.130.5.103
22:52 < topi`> what kind of aes patches? aes is a crypto algo
22:52 < woglinde> yes
22:52 < woglinde> and ac100 has aes crypto hw modul
22:53 < woglinde> ups tegra
22:53 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: do you have an application for aes?
22:53 < marvin24_DT> wifi would be good, but I guess it has its own engine
22:53 < woglinde> I need to find out how wpa_supplicant can make use of it
22:53 < woglinde> yes
22:54 < woglinde> there are two usecases
22:54 < woglinde> inside kernel
22:54 < topi`> is there hw support for sha256?
22:54 < marvin24_DT> it is not activated in the defconfig
22:54 < Unseen2> topi`: It should scale up to 1000MHz on demand by itself
22:54 < woglinde> and userspace with /dev entry
22:54 < marvin24_DT> tegra runs on 1000Mhz
22:54 < woglinde> marvin in mine yes, but maybee I need the aes_init like the seaboard
22:55 < topi`> Unseen2: it *should* but i'm running 200% cpu on two threads and still at 600mhz
22:55 < marvin24_DT> and scales automaticly to 2xxkhz
22:55 < marvin24_DT> topi`: you've got a problem with the scaling govenor
22:55 < topi`> I guess so. how do I see what kind of governor it uses?
22:55 < marvin24_DT> kernel?
22:56 < topi`> there has to be a way to change it run-time
22:56 < Unseen2> topi`: Works fine for me...
22:56 < topi`> Unseen2: for me usually as well, e.g. with make -j2 etc .. but NOT with this binary
22:56 < topi`> i'm mining bitcoins if somebody is interested ;)
22:56 < topi`> a lot of sha256.
23:00   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
23:00 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: there is no Kconfig options for CONFIG_CRYPTO_DEV_TEGRA_AES
23:00 < woglinde> *g*
23:00 < woglinde> config CRYPTO_DEV_TEGRA_AES
23:02 < woglinde> you still want my script which cherry-picks the patches from nvidia and android tree?
23:02 < marvin24_DT> no - better not
23:02 < woglinde> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/591852/
23:02 < woglinde> *g*
23:02   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23CDFC.dip.t-dialin.net [Quit: mirco]
23:03 < woglinde> hm next kernel build will build it as modul
23:03 < marvin24_DT> quiet readable
23:04 < woglinde> hm unfornatly the cherry-picks will getting new uuids
23:07 < marvin24_DT> mmh 8bc4f710e981d53a9bd161c6c054241231e09149 and 2a1398347981234df80dbf016090182df6feb4b5 are a bit redundant
23:08 < woglinde> hm
23:09 < woglinde> you mean the revert revert revert
23:09 < woglinde> I let it there for history
23:09 < woglinde> hm ah Documentation/crypto has an example
23:10 < woglinde> for using hw cryptos
23:11 < woglinde> ah and crypto test modul
23:12 < woglinde> hm wifi still isnt that stable
23:14   >>> dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz
23:15   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
23:15 < marvin24_DT> yes, I see dma timeout sometimes
23:15   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@f052233133.adsl.alicedsl.de
23:15 < marvin24_DT> but the connection doesn't break anymore
23:16 < dayweek> hi, is it possible to decrease backlight intensity? something like: light_05 --decrease 10
23:16 < woglinde_> re
23:16 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module tegra-aes.ko uses GPL-only symbol '__alloc_workqueue_key'
23:16 < woglinde_> what?
23:16 < woglinde_> lol
23:17 < woglinde_> hm ventana board has this
23:17 < woglinde_> &tegra_aes_device
23:17 < dayweek> I would like to use a keyboard shortcut for changing the intensity. If it is not possible I can write a small program and share it with you
23:18 < woglinde_> marvin but the c file says its gpl
23:18   <   woglinde!~heinold@g230116226.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
23:18   ~ woglinde_ is now woglinde
23:19 < marvin24_DT> no, it says gplv2
23:19 < woglinde> hm
23:19 < woglinde> kernel/workqueue.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(__alloc_workqueue_key);
23:20 < woglinde> but no other stuff is using it
23:20 < marvin24_DT> even better is what happens if you make it gpl
23:20 < marvin24_DT> ERROR: "tegra_chip_uid" [drivers/crypto/tegra-aes.ko] undefined!
23:21 < woglinde> hm okay
23:21 < woglinde> seems there is more stuff needed
23:22   <   Guest90153!5b4d9c0e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.156.14 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:23 < woglinde> marvin http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=54ac4f377623e82cc7e1721f3c136dc41e93c34d
23:23 < gildean> .,01
23:24 < woglinde> marvin okay seems fuse stuff differs a lot from nvidia and chromeos tree
23:25   <   steelrat!~steelrat@dslb-088-074-206-070.pools.arcor-ip.net [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
23:26 < marvin24_DT> oh, no thanks
23:26 < woglinde> hm
23:26 < woglinde> will look into it
23:27 < woglinde> hm
23:27 < woglinde> http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=3232571484990077caf807d389a5ca002e14920f
23:27 < marvin24_DT> woglinde: keep it save and simple
23:30   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-214-159.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:30   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-211-248.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
23:36 < woglinde> hm
23:36 < woglinde> okay chromeos fuse has a variable tegra_chip_uid
23:38 < woglinde> h I wonder why the code compiled at all
23:43 < woglinde> args my head is to full of java
23:43 < woglinde> marvin still there?
23:49   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru
23:51   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
23:52   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-211-248.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
23:55   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
--- Day changed Sun Apr 10 2011
00:00   <   tilmann1!~t@g231200244.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
00:01   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.184.21
00:06 < woglinde> hm should be easy to fix its only a tmp key length size
00:06 < woglinde> so every other u64 value is okay
00:06   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-235-15.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
00:22   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-130-203-124.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:29   >>> clopoff!~Miranda@ppp91-76-23-194.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
00:32   <   clopof!~Miranda@ppp91-76-43-96.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:35   <   macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169 [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
00:37   >>> clopof!~Miranda@ppp91-76-8-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
00:39   <   clopoff!~Miranda@ppp91-76-23-194.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
00:40   >>> clopoff!~Miranda@ppp91-76-0-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
00:40   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m83-185-119-104.cust.tele2.se
00:41   >>> Baybal!~baybal@75.155.181.156
00:41   <   clopof!~Miranda@ppp91-76-8-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:42   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
01:16   <   dayweek!~david@139.73.broadband2.iol.cz [Remote host closed the connection]
01:20   <   samyb!~samy@vvg91-1-82-228-237-33.fbx.proxad.net []
01:21   <   clopoff!~Miranda@ppp91-76-0-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
01:22   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
01:34   <   woglinde!~heinold@f052233133.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zapp]
02:05   <   marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net [Remote host closed the connection]
02:10 < phh> pff compat-wireless on .32 is just a total fail
02:10 < phh> kernel panics
02:26   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
02:35   <   Baybal!~baybal@75.155.181.156 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
02:49   <   flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81 [Read error: Operation timed out]
02:58   >>> makc__!~makc@46.20.179.2
03:01   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.184.21 [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
03:02   ~ makc__ is now bmw
03:22   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23CDFC.dip.t-dialin.net
03:25   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23CDFC.dip.t-dialin.net [Client Quit]
03:26 < scoopr> :(
05:16   >>> dormant!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be
05:17   <   mmarc__!~marcusmae@89.179.162.110 [Quit: Leaving.]
06:01   >>> dormant1!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be
06:01   <   dormant1!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be []
06:04   <   dormant!~dormant@d51527675.access.telenet.be [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
08:09   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
08:12   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net []
08:22   >>> macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169
09:11   >>> tilmann!~t@g231200244.adsl.alicedsl.de
09:15   >>> farmboy!~yaaic@87.113.53.86
09:44   <   macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:55   <   farmboy!~yaaic@87.113.53.86 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
10:49   >>> struger!~user@195.234.110.195
11:01   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23C91F.dip.t-dialin.net
11:10   >>> Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313
11:13   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru
11:21   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
11:23   >>> bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net
11:30   >>> arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net
11:44   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7B409.dip.t-dialin.net
11:46   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7B409.dip.t-dialin.net [Max SendQ exceeded]
11:47   >>> lanthan!~ze@p54B7B409.dip.t-dialin.net
12:05   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru
12:22   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m83-185-119-104.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
12:41   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-137-155-133.cust.tele2.se
12:46   >>> flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81
12:54   >>> macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169
13:04   >>> marvin24_DT!~quassel@egonalter-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net
13:14   <   mornfall!~mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:21   <   bmw!~makc@46.20.179.2 [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
13:23 [Users #ac100]
13:23 >>>  [df]       DerGuteMoritz  huuu           marvin24_DT  psyche            tilmann   
13:23 >>>  a_rcher_   emmibox        Isakk          minimec      saraedum          topi`     
13:23 >>>  arganeau   Eruquen        jeremiah_      mirco        scoopr            Unseen2   
13:23 >>>  armin76    flesh1911      justicelawetc  muromec      SerzZ             vegai     
13:23 >>>  arune      gg             kenws          NickaNicka   shadow89_at_work  vvid_work 
13:23 >>>  bambee     ggrandou       lanthan        ogra_        Snark             xranby_ac 
13:23 >>>  bkero      gildean        lenios         ojn          sraue             xzerth    
13:23 >>>  chrisq_    gord           lenios_        peterAC100   stenzel_          zod       
13:23 >>>  chrissbx   gtom           lepanen        pfoetche1    struger          
13:23 >>>  CryptoKid  harms1         macau_         phh          svp              
13:23 >>>  dario      hectorvector   marvin24       pm215_       Tequila          
13:23 Irssi: #ac100: Total of 63 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 63 normal]
13:23 >>> Topic for #ac100: French on #ac100-fr | Italien on #ac100-it | Russian on #ac100-ru | Wiki: http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/ | Guide/Files for Ubuntu 10.10 http://ac100.gudinna.com/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/ac100/ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/pages/Faq | Developer mailing-list: ac100@grandou.net | Check logs on http://ac100.tunk.org/logs/
13:23 >>> Topic set by phh ~quassel@137.194.15.151 [Tue Mar 29 19:31:41 2011]
13:46   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
13:46   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:47   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
13:55   <   svp!~svp@79.120.24.66 []
13:58   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru
14:01   >>> Aldo_!5b4d95b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.77.149.181
14:02   >>> mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru
14:15   >>> Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru
14:19   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
14:36   <   mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
14:38   >>> mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru
14:45   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
14:45 < nicofs> I managed to boot with marvin24's kernel AND the new resolution of 1280x720 - but only to a console... now i somehow need to get gdm and X going...
14:46   <   mmarc__!~marcusmae@h81-88-120-145.rev.domonet.ru [Quit: Leaving.]
14:47 < phh> nicofs: hey... would you mind rolling to my release ? I realized that in xorg.conf there is the modeline setting defined :D
14:48 < nicofs> phh, i could try yours if you like... nothing too loose... just tell me what to do...
14:49 < phh> install it, edit /L4T/etc/X11/xorg.conf, search for 1024x600, change it and the modeline, and try ? :p
14:49 < phh> there is event a comment in the xorg.conf to say how to generate this modeline
14:49 < phh> even*
14:50 < nicofs> you release from jan-16-2011 from kotelett.no?
14:51 < phh> yeah
14:52 < nicofs> consider it done...
14:57 < nicofs> or not... loading the modules archive takes a moment...
14:58 < phh> err well, it's not just the modules that you need
14:58 < phh> it's also the ubuntu5.tar.lzma
14:59 < nicofs> yea... found that in my own archives^^
14:59 < phh> ok
15:01 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: the console and xorg is exclusive in older (older than 1 day) kernel
15:02 < marvin24_DT> either you unbind the console or update
15:02 < marvin24_DT> btw, nice you got it going!
15:02 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, how would i unbind the console?
15:03 < nicofs> or update... as long as phh's modules are loading i can still play with yours^^
15:03 < marvin24_DT> echo unbind > /sys/devices/virtual/vtconsole/vtcon1/unbind
15:03 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: phh modules can't load on .37
15:04 < phh> marvin24_DT: that's not what he meant
15:04 < marvin24_DT> ah yes
15:04 < marvin24_DT> to early in the morning
15:04 < marvin24_DT> to read whole sentences
15:04 < phh> lol
15:05 < marvin24_DT> phh: can you make diff for gpio's the same way you did for the sound codec registers?
15:05 < nicofs> phh, will your init load from external before trying internal?
15:05 < phh> nicofs: i'm still not sure :s
15:05 < nicofs> i'll find out - then i can have marvin internally and you on sd... and all are happy...
15:06 < phh> marvin24_DT: not easily
15:06 < phh> why ?
15:06 < marvin24_DT> I looking for the spk_enable/mic detect gpio
15:06 < phh> mic detect ?
15:06 < marvin24_DT> tegra_gpio gives out the dump
15:06 < phh> we don't have mic do we ?
15:06 < marvin24_DT> at least an external mix jack
15:06 < phh> I mean, it's on webcam
15:06 < marvin24_DT> dunno about internal
15:06 < phh> uh ? this 3.5mm can do mic too ?
15:06 < marvin24_DT> webcam with microphone?
15:06 < marvin24_DT> there is a mic symbol on it
15:07 < marvin24_DT> three in one
15:07 < phh> true
15:07 < phh> anyway
15:07 < nicofs> there is this conspicuous whole left of the cam...
15:07 < marvin24_DT> acording to the datasheet, the detection should be on a gpio
15:07 < phh> the spk_enable gpio is the same as harmony (called HP_DET)
15:07 < marvin24_DT> but speaker enable is maybe more important
15:07 < phh> and I think that mic detect is on alc
15:07 < phh> err no wait
15:07 < phh> let's redo that :D
15:07   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
15:07 < marvin24_DT> hp_det is different to spk_en
15:07 < phh> yes.
15:08 < phh> spk_en is a nvec cmd
15:08 < phh> I already talked about it here
15:08 < marvin24_DT> ah
15:08 < marvin24_DT> so they connected it to the ec
15:09 < phh> I remember there is a 94/95 for on/off at the end of the message
15:09 < phh> oh well, strings on nvrm_daemon should tell me.
15:11 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, that unbind didn't go down to well - there was no .../unbind - only ../bind - i used that and all froze...
15:11 < phh> you might you no longer got console ? :D
15:11 < marvin24_DT> sure it does
15:11 < marvin24_DT> you can add that line to /etc/init/gdm.conf
15:11 < marvin24_DT> (or update)
15:12 < phh> s/might/mean/
15:12 < nicofs> how does that help me?
15:15 < marvin24_DT> automaticaly disable console during boot
15:16 < nicofs> in how far would that get my X going? currently Xorg complains about "no display"...
15:18 < marvin24_DT> does it complain "fb0 busy" ?
15:19 < nicofs> "Fatal server error: no screens found"
15:22 < marvin24_DT> need the whole Xorg.0.log
15:23 < marvin24_DT> with -verbose 9
15:24 < nicofs> ok, will try to transfer that...
15:29 < nicofs> http://pastebin.com/tsRdJZwi
15:30   <   hectorvector!~hectorvec@softbank220033228024.bbtec.net [Remote host closed the connection]
15:32   >>> guiguid!~guiguid@lns-bzn-48f-62-147-252-138.adsl.proxad.net
15:36 < phh> so it's fb0 busy.
15:36   >>> DasDGW!~optimus@dslb-188-104-236-242.pools.arcor-ip.net
15:39   >>> svp!~svp@79.120.24.66
15:41 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: use this gdm.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/591826/
15:45   <   flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81 [Quit: Leaving.]
15:45 < nicofs> where do i put gdm.conf?
15:49   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
15:49 < nicofs> i don't have a gdm.conf in /etc/gdm/ - i'll just put it there...
15:50 < marvin24_DT> no, it's in /etc/init
15:50 < marvin24_DT> ubuntu upstart ...
15:51   <   macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169 []
15:51 < nicofs> ok
15:52   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru
15:54   >>> macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169
15:54 < nicofs> did that and then service gdm stop, then start - console froze, all dead...
16:04 < marvin24_DT> try reboot
16:04 < marvin24_DT> did you adjusted the framebuffer size?
16:10   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
16:17   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
16:17 < nicofs> how do i adjust the framebuffer size?
16:21 < marvin24_DT> in board-paz00-panel.c
16:22 < marvin24_DT> displ1 resource
16:22 < marvin24_DT> you need enough for the framebuffer
16:23 < marvin24_DT> 1024x600x4 = 0x258000
16:24 < nicofs> and 1280x720x? would be?
16:24 < marvin24_DT> 1280x720x4=0x384000
16:25 < marvin24_DT> 32 bit per pixel
16:25 < marvin24_DT> (not very efficient)
16:25 < marvin24_DT> and then you have to shift the 2nd framebuffer back
16:25 < marvin24_DT> or reserve more ram
16:26   marvin24_DT should have made a layout drawing
16:28 < nicofs> *nod*
16:28 < nicofs> so swap 0x258000 for 0x384000. ok. and then?
16:36 < marvin24_DT> move the base of disp2
16:36 < marvin24_DT> to the end of disp1
16:46 < nicofs> erm... can't quite follow...
16:48 < marvin24_DT> start of disp2 = disp1_base + disp1_size
16:48 < marvin24_DT> start of disp2 mean disp2_base
16:49 < nicofs> so these .start and .end values?
16:55   <   muromec!~muromec@44659.user.farlep.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:58 < marvin24_DT> eh, yes
16:58 < marvin24_DT> sorry
16:58 < marvin24_DT> base = start
16:59 < marvin24_DT> size = end - start
16:59 < marvin24_DT> I'm doing stupid register/bit docu
16:59 < nicofs> i think i got it right... is compiling right now
17:09 < nicofs> it's working!
17:09 < nicofs> AC100@1280x720...
17:09 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, i could kiss you...
17:10 < marvin24_DT> no thanks ...
17:10 < nicofs> erm... ok - it just froze... oO
17:11 < marvin24_DT> can you still log in from outside or did it hard freeze?
17:12 < nicofs> erm... ok - mouse was disabled... i'll try again...
17:15 < nicofs> now the mouse worked - briefly and disappeared. crtl+alt+f1 has no effect, nor has alt+f2
17:17 < nicofs> but even dead and frozen this is an amazing sight *g*
17:17 < marvin24_DT> you cannot switch to console if there is none
17:17 < marvin24_DT> try pull my current version
17:17 < marvin24_DT> it has a lot of changes regarding video
17:18 < nicofs> git?
17:18 < marvin24_DT> yes
17:18 < marvin24_DT> it also enabled using both, console + xorg
17:18 < marvin24_DT> no need to hack gdm.conf anymore
17:18 < nicofs> i can use the modified panel.c with that?
17:20 < marvin24_DT> yes
17:20 < marvin24_DT> changes are in drivers/video/tegra
17:21 < nicofs> can you give me the git line?
17:21 < nicofs> can't download the tar-gz as it is being generated atm
17:24 < marvin24_DT>  git://gitorious.org/~marvin24/ac100/marvin24s-kernel.git
17:24 < marvin24_DT> you downloaded the tar.gz?
17:26 < nicofs> jep
17:26   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
17:27   ~ nicofs is now nicofs_afk
17:29   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
17:42   ~ nicofs_afk is now nicofs
17:42 < nicofs> what was the command to load the .config?
17:42 < marvin24_DT> make paz00_defconfig
17:43 < nicofs> ok... compiling
17:43 < marvin24_DT> ccache is your friend ...
17:43 < marvin24_DT> (if you compile often)
17:44 < marvin24_DT> but sometimes it hates you
17:49   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-127-149.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
17:52   >>> SenkZ!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71
17:53 < SenkZ> Hello
17:53 < SenkZ> good middag
17:53 < SenkZ> midday*
17:55   >>> muromec!~muromec@31.31.100.158
17:55 < gildean> it's 17:55 here
17:56 < marvin24_DT> no, 16:55
17:56 < marvin24_DT> I wish toshiba had sold the device more globaly
17:57 < marvin24_DT> like GMT +/- 12 hours
17:58 < SenkZ> its 16:58 here
17:58 < SenkZ> anyways
17:58 < SenkZ> SD not showing up :/
17:58 < SenkZ> i tried mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1
17:59 < SenkZ> is there a way to force ubuntu scanning a SD slot?
17:59 < marvin24_DT> sure, change the initrd
17:59 < SenkZ> what should i change
17:59 < SenkZ> where is it
18:00 < marvin24_DT> inside the boot image
18:00 < SenkZ> im no lniux expert
18:00 < marvin24_DT> mmh
18:00 < marvin24_DT> time to become one
18:00 < SenkZ> the SD card is not showing up in the  the system
18:00 < SenkZ> it was last week
18:00 < marvin24_DT> are you using my kernel?
18:00 < SenkZ> but it suddenly doesnt show up
18:01 < SenkZ> ????
18:01 < marvin24_DT> .37?
18:01 < SenkZ> im using normal ubuntu in my laptop
18:01 < marvin24_DT> or .29?
18:01 < marvin24_DT> ok
18:01 < SenkZ> and i try to acces a SD card
18:01 < SenkZ> so i can "burn" phh's image to it
18:02 < marvin24_DT> isn't there a /dev/sd? something?
18:02 < SenkZ> no but
18:02 < SenkZ> there is /dev/mmcblk0p1
18:02 < SenkZ> seth@seth-Studio-1749:~$ sudo mkfs -t nilfs2 /dev/mmcblk0p1 mkfs.nilfs2 ver 2.0 Start writing file system initial data to the device        Blocksize:4096  Device:/dev/mmcblk0p1  Device Size:7956070400 File system initialization succeeded !!
18:02 < SenkZ> i can format it :/
18:03 < SenkZ> but it still doesnt show up
18:03 < marvin24_DT> maybe autodetect doesn't work
18:03 < marvin24_DT> reboot may help
18:03 < SenkZ> ok ill try
18:03 < SenkZ> brb
18:04   <   SenkZ!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71 [Quit: Page closed]
18:05   >>> SenkZ!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71
18:06 < SenkZ> still doesnt show up
18:06 < SenkZ> but doesnt really matter
18:06 < SenkZ> i can still format and mount it
18:06 < SenkZ> anyways
18:06 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, the latest kernel causes kernal panic...
18:06 < SenkZ> whats diffirence between ext2 and nlfs format?
18:07 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: wow
18:07 < SenkZ> ?
18:08 < marvin24_DT> SenkZ: nilfs may be fast than ext2
18:08 < marvin24_DT> (optimized for flash)
18:08 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: can you see where it crashes?
18:08 < SenkZ> okay
18:08 < SenkZ> matters very much or a little?
18:08 < marvin24_DT> dunno, find out
18:09 < SenkZ> k
18:09 < SenkZ> rofl
18:09 < SenkZ> i formatted to ext2
18:09 < SenkZ> now SD showing up
18:09 < nicofs> marvin24_DT, "Code: bad PC value"
18:11 < marvin24_DT> mmh, I con only say kernel is working fine here
18:11 < marvin24_DT> looks like it jumped to nowhere
18:11 < SenkZ> how does kernel work?
18:11 < SenkZ> i mean
18:11 < SenkZ> im now buring phh's latest image
18:11 < SenkZ> but when a new kernel is published
18:11 < SenkZ> how do i upgrade:
18:11 < SenkZ> ?
18:12 < marvin24_DT> SenkZ: flash the boot.img to part5 or 6
18:12 < SenkZ> ah
18:12 < SenkZ> this week
18:12 < SenkZ> i flashed part5
18:12 < SenkZ> so that already works
18:12 < SenkZ> only i had problems getting my SD correct
18:13 < SenkZ> so i couldt boot ubuntu :/
18:15 < nicofs> SenkZ, did you use the correct boot.img for your model? and did you use the boot.img for external boot?
18:16 < SenkZ> im now untarring image, and its stuck at: ./L4T/system/lib/hw/wlan/ar6000.ko
18:16 < SenkZ> i followed this tuttorial:
18:16 < SenkZ> http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phh/
18:16   >>> xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-100-32.bb.netbynet.ru
18:16 < SenkZ> and i could boot the SD with holding home and power button
18:16 < SenkZ> but ubuntu didnt boot
18:16 < SenkZ> than i checked content on SD
18:16 < SenkZ> and the fiels were copied bad
18:17 < SenkZ> tough i have a class 10 kingston SD :S
18:18 < SenkZ> i believe my pc stopped untarring :S
18:18 < SenkZ> and my SD card disappeared again
18:19 < SenkZ> but its still mounted
18:19 < SenkZ> whats command for unmount?>
18:22 < arune> umount /mnt/sdcard
18:23 < SenkZ> i tried eject
18:23 < SenkZ> but it gave message that the card is busy
18:23 < SenkZ> unmount: command not found
18:26 < SenkZ> is everyone AFK here>
18:27 < gildean> umount, not unmount
18:28 < SenkZ> thanks
18:28 < SenkZ> but gives same message as eject
18:28 < SenkZ> umount: /mnt: apparaat is bezig
18:28 < SenkZ> how to kill processes related to SD?
18:29 < arune> umount -l /mnt/sdcard maybe
18:29 < marvin24_DT> some console my still be on /mnt/sdcard
18:30 < marvin24_DT> first cd out of it
18:32 < SenkZ> i got it unmounted no
18:32 < SenkZ> w
18:32   <   Mifun!~Miranda@nat73226.hnt.ru [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
18:32   <   SenkZ!57c3af47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.195.175.71 [Quit: Page closed]
18:51   >>> lanthan_!~ze@p54B7BB23.dip.t-dialin.net
18:51   >>> hectorvector!~hectorvec@softbank220033228024.bbtec.net
18:54   <   lanthan!~ze@p54B7B409.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:09   *.net <-\-> *.split: [vegai, lanthan_, lepanen, armin76]
19:11   >>> [lanthan_, lepanen, vegai, armin76]
19:12   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-137-155-133.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:25   >>> stenzel__!~stenzel@p5DC6BB9A.dip.t-dialin.net
19:27   <   psyche!~psyche@178.130.5.103 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
19:27   >>> psyche!~psyche@178.130.5.103
19:28   <   stenzel_!~stenzel@p5DC69D35.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
19:30   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@90.137.155.133
19:34 < marvin24_DT> stupid codec doesn't register ...
19:36   <   tilmann!~t@g231200244.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:41   <   muromec!~muromec@31.31.100.158 [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
19:47   <   arganeau!~arganeau@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-152-49.adsl.proxad.net []
19:51   >>> tilmann!~t@g231200084.adsl.alicedsl.de
19:54   >>> LeBlack!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-126-74.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
19:56   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-128-42.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:57   >>> muromec!~muromec@31.31.100.158
19:58 < marvin24_DT> ah - much better
19:58 < marvin24_DT> why only is there no standard codec naming convention ...
20:02   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-235-15.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:03 < muromec> marvin24_DT, fighting sound?
20:03 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:03 < marvin24_DT> at least I glued everything together now
20:03 < marvin24_DT> so i2c probe and codec probe works
20:03 < marvin24_DT> now comes the details
20:04 < arune> marvin24_DT: are you patching the 5623-driver?
20:04 < marvin24_DT> yes
20:05 < marvin24_DT> I'm just before the moment your work will be very useful
20:06 < arune> I havent gotten very far though
20:08 < marvin24_DT> enough for some init
20:08 < marvin24_DT> wifi stucks / sucks
20:09   >>> tilmann1!~t@g231200084.adsl.alicedsl.de
20:10   >>> CyberS_!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de
20:11   <   tilmann!~t@g231200084.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:11   <   peterAC100!~pk@HSI-KBW-085-216-055-252.hsi.kabelbw.de [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:11   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@90.137.155.133 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:11   <   psyche!~psyche@178.130.5.103 [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:11   <   lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:11   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-137-155-133.cust.tele2.se
20:11 < marvin24_DT> http://sprunge.us/JIeX
20:11   >>> psyche!~psyche@178.130.5.103
20:16 < arune> looks cool
20:16   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-236-156.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
20:18   >>> hen3ry!bcdec8ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.222.200.206
20:19 < marvin24_DT> I only fear that after the init my caps run out
20:19 < marvin24_DT> I don't really understand all that stuff
20:24   <   LeBlack!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-126-74.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
20:25   >>> lenios!~lenios@unaffiliated/lenios
20:33 < marvin24_DT> I pushed it now (in case anyone wants something to play with)
20:38   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-236-156.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20:38   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-231-229.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
20:44   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-231-229.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20:44   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-232-96.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
20:48   <   muromec!~muromec@31.31.100.158 [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20:49   >>> flesh1911!~flesh1911@94.198.111.81
20:50 < flesh1911> Hi, guys, what can be the source of "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted" while doing ifconfig ra0 up? Kernel is 2.6.29, system is Gentoo with armv7a-unknown-linux-gnueabi stage3.
21:06   <   sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com []
21:15   >>> Pechnet!~Pechnet@host28-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
21:21   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-137-155-133.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
21:24   >>> xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-137-155-133.cust.tele2.se
21:31   >>> sonny!~spectrum@ks30575.kimsufi.com
21:33 < phh> flesh1911: missing firmware
21:37   >>> muromec!~muromec@93.88.50.217
21:41 < flesh1911> thanks!
21:45 < flesh1911> i've copied /lib/firmware from ubuntu, rebooted and the same error is present. How can I ensure that fw is loaded?
21:46 < marvin24_DT> maybe phh meant the rt2870.dat (text file) to be copied to /data or so
21:46 < marvin24_DT> don't remember anymore, too long ago that I booted a .29 kernel ...
21:48 < flesh1911> thanks, that worked immediately. Is there a better alternative now than .29? Some git repo?
22:14   >>> woglinde!~heinold@g230117088.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:14 < woglinde> hiho
22:14 < woglinde> lumdidum
22:14 < woglinde> sound working now?
22:22   <   xzerth!~vasya@ip-95-221-100-32.bb.netbynet.ru [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
22:23 < nicofs> 1280p almost working...^^
22:23 < nicofs> erm... 720p i mean
22:24 < woglinde> nicofs hm?
22:24 < nicofs> i fitted a 1280x720 LCD^^
22:24 < woglinde> hm ah
22:24 < woglinde> you got the timings right?
22:25 < nicofs> well... i don't know... first try went well apart from the system freezing after a second - second try kernel panic *g*
22:28   >>> woglinde_!~heinold@g225006103.adsl.alicedsl.de
22:31   <   woglinde!~heinold@g230117088.adsl.alicedsl.de [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
22:49 < marvin24_DT> nicofs: does it crash without you modifications?
22:58   >>> AlainS!~alain@xdsl-188-154-98-184.adslplus.ch
23:03 < nicofs> you mean the screen resolution change?
23:04 < nicofs> didn't try... possibly not...
23:15   <   Snark!~jpuydt@2a01:e35:2ec9:4b20:213:e8ff:fe8a:1313 [Quit: Ex-Chat]
23:24   <   struger!~user@195.234.110.195 [Remote host closed the connection]
23:32   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-232-96.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
23:32   <   woglinde_!~heinold@g225006103.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: zaoo]
23:33   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-214-93.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
23:34   >>> Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-126-74.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
23:43   <   emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-214-93.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
23:44   >>> emmibox!~Miranda@ppp91-76-218-173.pppoe.mtu-net.ru
23:47   <   nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
23:50   >>> bmw!~makc@46.20.179.2
--- Day changed Mon Apr 11 2011
00:02   >>> nicofs!~nicofs@120-118.dynamic.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de
00:04   <   macau_!~opera@109.230.128.169 [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
00:05 < marvin24_DT> mmh, what does 1F'h in a 4 bit range mean?
00:05   <   mirco!~mirco@p5B23C91F.dip.t-dialin.net [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:05 < phh> nothing
00:06   >>> Yurius!~Miranda@36-64-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net
00:06 < marvin24_DT> can't be, on page 33 (bottom) it means 30db gain
00:08 < marvin24_DT> seems to be a common sytax that doesn't need any explaination
00:08   <   Yurius!~Miranda@36-64-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:08   <   sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue [Quit: Ex-Chat]
00:10   >>> sraue!~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue
00:11 < phh> hum.
00:12 < marvin24_DT> ah, the field is 5 bit long
00:12 < marvin24_DT> sorry
00:12 < marvin24_DT> 0-4
00:13 < phh> lol
00:13 < phh> better :p
00:14 < phh> it's cool to have 2 AC100
00:15 < phh> chatting with one, making stuff work with the other
00:17 < marvin24_DT> bought another one?
00:17 < marvin24_DT> urg
00:17 < marvin24_DT> I also would love to have two, one with .32 and one with .37
00:17 < marvin24_DT> makes it easier to debug
00:17 < phh> here it's one with .29 and the other with .32
00:17 < phh> but my .32 is almost ready
00:17 < phh> so will be .32/.37 quite soon
00:18 < marvin24_DT> but then you also need a third ...
00:18 < phh> lol I wouldn't need a .29 -_-'
00:18 < marvin24_DT> mmh, somehow 0xdcdc is not a valid adc record gain in reg 0x12
00:19 < phh> aren't gain 6bist long ?
00:19 < phh> 5bits*
00:19 < marvin24_DT> the register hold other stuff too
00:19 < marvin24_DT> the lower 5 bits are for right channel
00:20 < marvin24_DT> ah, 1.5db steps
00:20 < marvin24_DT> grrr
00:20 < phh> usually it's just mute the other value no ?
00:21 < phh> wait.
00:21 < phh> what are you doing with adc ?
00:21   <   tilmann1!~t@g231200084.adsl.alicedsl.de [Quit: Leaving.]
00:21 < phh> ah still sound input.
00:21 < marvin24_DT> takes endless long
00:22   <   xranby_ac!~xranby@m90-137-155-133.cust.tele2.se [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
00:23   <   bambee!~quassel@100.57.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [Remote host closed the connection]
00:27   >>> mirco!~mirco@p5B23C91F.dip.t-dialin.net
00:29   >>> Yurius!~Miranda@36-64-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net
00:35   <   Pechnet!~Pechnet@host28-230-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [Remote host closed the connection]
00:35   <   Tactilofan!~Tactilofa@ABordeaux-553-1-126-74.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [Quit: Quitte]
00:37 < bmw> which wifi chip in ac? rt35xx?
00:37 < phh> rt3070 or something like that
00:38 < phh> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0db0:3822 Micro Star International
00:40 < bmw> hmm
00:40 < bmw>